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it is a notable appearance from the president, touting a key pandemic recovery milestone on the day that democrats are rumbling with the familiar history of any president's party faring badly in off-year lexicon tests as well as a historic turnout on the republican side in last night's race in virginia where republican glen junk kin defeated democratic candidate terry mcauliffe, the first time a republican has won a governor's office in that state in about a dozen years. a official telling me mcauliffe got 200,000 more votes than northam and explaining that democratic voter turn out was note but we lost because gop turnout was bonkers. some of the anger on the right was stoked by terry mcauliffe's gave at the last debate where he said i don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.
democrats forced to tackle head on the political reality of right-wing energy and enthusiasm around culture war issues, things like the teaching of race to kids and broader issues that percolated during the pandemic about in-person school. republicans already circulating their plan to try to replicate youngkin's success nationwide in the months ahead of the 2022 mid terms. from the memo put out on lessons from virginia quote first the concerns of parents need to be a tier 1 approximately see issue for republicans. youngkin's success reveals that republicans hadk and must become the party of parents. next, we need to end the mandates, vaccine and mask mandates in public schools. to be clear, what republicans are already preparing us for is little more than an onslaught of culture war campaigns enhanced by their misinformation. it is a continuation of what we have seen from the gop over the
last two years, a war on science likely intensified by the vaccines in kids news that the president is set to address this hour. and false claims about the threat posed by critical race theory had public schools. and just with the first of the what's certain to be many fact checks on that, this is how the "washington post" education secretary defines critical race theory. it is a college-level academic framework that holds racism as systemic in america. it is not taught at the k-12 level in virginia or anywhere else in this country. how is that? amid the fog of culture wars. that's certain to be the agenda by raurs republicans during the mid terms. the success or failure of the democratic party may now hinge in part on its act to fact check
and then clearly and effectively match the energy coming from the right. that is where we start today with our favorite reporters and friends. tim miller is here. michael steele, michael steele has launched an exploratory committee and is actively contemplating running for governor of maryland. jeremy peters is here, too, national politics reporter for the "new york times." i want to start with you, jeremy. i reached out to you to understand what you were hearing from republicans in the state. you had your eye on the counties that ended up really making a difference for youngkin. talk about what this campaign turned on that maybe was more opaque from the national level. >> yes. well, that's exactly right. a lot of what it did turn on, you couldn't really see from the national level because they were very localized issues dealing with specific schools in fairfax county, for instance, right in so this wasn't all just about critical race theory and the dog whistles to conservatives.
that was a huge part of this, but the youngkin campaign capitalized on anger and anxiety and frustrations over parent -- from parents who are still dealing with the traumatic effects of trying to teach their kids at home and hold down their own jobs. and on top of that, you had asian parents in northern virginia who are upset about the way that progressives want to make changes to the admission program in gifted schools. you had black parents that were drawn to youngkin's message because of his stance on charter schools. and the youngkin campaign identified all of these. and it all became this larger critique of tear mcauliffe and the democratic party's stance that he, himself, kinds of encapsulated better than any republican attack ad ever could have when he said you -- i don't
want parents telling schools what to keep. >> jeremy let me.is to the conversation. let's listen to president biden. >> get my mask here. today is a great day for american parents, american families, american children. we have taken a giant step forward to further accelerate our path out of this pandemic. after months of rigorous and independent scientific refew the fda authorizes and the needs and prevention, the cdc recommended the covid-19 vaccine for children ages 5 through 11. for parents all over this country, this is a day of relief and celebration. after almost 18 months of anxious worrying every time the children had a sniffle or started to cough. well, you can now broke them from this horrible virus. because i would aults worry that was coming along. 28 million more young americans are now eligible for the protection of a vaccine. and my administration is ready.
we are ready from day one, today, organized and have a plan for this vaxvation's launch. as soon as next week we will have enough vaccine in enough places and parents will be able to schedule appointments to be able to get their kids their first shot. we have already secured enough vaccine supply for every single child in america ages 5-11. weeks ago, we asked states and pharmacies to put together their detailed plan to start placing their orders for these specially formulated vaccines for young children. we started packing and shipping these orders last week as soon as the fda authorized the vaccine. we have already sent millions of doses -- excuse me -- millions of doses and millions more to come by next week. these doses will be available at approximately -- excuse me. i beg your pardon. i swallowed wrong.
-- will be available in approximately 20,000 locations around the country. these include places that parents know and trust, their local pharmacies, their pediatricians, family doctors and children's hospitals. many of the vaccine sites will offer times on nights and weekends so parents can take their children to get vaccinated after work and after school. we have also been working with governors, mayors, and local school leaders to bring vaccines to schools. as of today, more than 6,000 school clinics have already been planned in school districts around the country. these efforts will always ensure equity that as the center of our children's vaccination program as it has been the vaccination program for adults. we are making vaccines available at hundreds of community health centers. rural health clinics, and thousands of pharmacies and schools in our hardest hit communities. and we are sending out mobile
units to reach where the people are. the bottom line is, we have been planning and preparing for months to vaccinate our children. our program will be ramping up this week. and more doses shipped out each day so that we have fully -- we are fully up and running by next week. now, i know many parents have been anxiously waiting for this day. but i also know that some families might have questions. so trusted mess i thinkers like your pediatricians, family doctors, will be able to answer your questions, talk to parents about the importance of getting their kids vaccinated and put your mind at ease. we will also be raising awareness and encourage parents to get their children vaccinated from our level just as we have been doing since day one of my administration. now we are going to do everything we can to make she is vaccines easily available and raise awareness of the importance of getting vaccinated. so parents of children ages 5 and older, please get them
vaccinated. because here's the deal. children make up one quarter of the cases in this country. and while rare, children can get very sick from covid-19. and some can end up -- few even end up hospitalized. but they don't have to. this vaccine is safe and effective. so get your children vaccinated to protect themselves, to protect others, and to stop the spread, and to help us beat this pandemic. today, i also want to speak to american seniors. everyone is at risk of getting covid-19, the evidence is overwhelming that older americans are still, by far, the most vulnerable, and getting the sickest. and boosters -- boosters add an important layer of protection. booster shots are free and effective. and every senior should get one. it's important. seniors are eligible to get your booster shots six months after you have been bully vaccinated.
so six months. if you got your second shot before may 1st, you are eligible to get the booster right now. i made it clear, we have ample supply of boosters. thanks to our planning and preparation, our booster program is off to a very strong start. over 20 million americans have now received a booster. in fact, in just six weeks we have already gotten boosters to about half the eligible seniors who received the pfizer vaccine. nearly half of the eligible seniors in just six weeks. it tooker inially 11 weeks to get half of all seniors their first shot when that program was launched back in december of 2020, just during the prior administration. so as -- this is a strong pace. to our seniors, if you are eligible, get your booster now. i will conclude with this. vaccines for children ages 5-11,
and boosters provide additional protection for seniors and others, are two major steps forward that are going to accelerate our path out of this pandemic. this brings me to where we are and where we are going to go from here. since early september, cases and hospitalizations are down now more than 50%. and over the past two weeks, cases and hospitalizations are falling in approximately 40 states. a year ago, we had no vaccines. just this week we hit an modern milestone. 80% of adults have at least one shot. that's four out of every five adults. and for our seniors, over 95% have gotten at least one shot. overall, 193 million americans are fully vaccinated. up from just 2 million the day i was sworn in. over 20 million have enhanced protections from boosters. and we are now down from 100 to
about 60 million unvaccinated americans 12 years and older. i am proud to say, black and brown adults and native americans have gotten vaccinated at the same rate as white adults. and one more thing. our vaccination program is not only helping us save lives and beat the pandemic. it's helping our economic recovery, and helping us grow. in the three months before i came to office, the economy was stagnant, creating only 60,000 jobs a month. since i have taken office, it's now averaging 600,000 new jobs every month. that's average. and one more thing. vaccinated our children will help us keep our schools open. keep our kids in the classroom. learning, socializing with their classmates and teachers. i think every reporter in this room has a child understands the difference between a child going to school and having to learn from home. it matters.
it matters in terms of not just their physical health, their mental health. during this pandemic we have seen just how important being in school is, for families and for our country. a year ago we were headed into a thanksgiving where public health experts were advising against traveling or gathering of family and friends. last thanksgiving, for the first time just the four of us, my wife and i, my daughter and our son-in-law. later this month, our tables and our hearts are going to be filled thanks to the vaccines. we have made incredible progress over these past nine months. but we have to keep going. the pandemic is not yet behind us, but we're getting there. so, please, please do your part. if you know someone who is not vaccinated, encourage them to get vaccinated. and folks -- folks who haven't gotten vaccinated yet, please get vaccinated. it is easy. it's accessible, and it's free. get vaccinated. you can do this. god bless you all.
now i will take a few questions. i will start all the way at the end. >> thank you, mr. president. appreciate it. >> you are not all the way at the ends but that's okay. you are up. >> as leader of the democratic party how much responsibility to you dak for the dismal results in virginia? >> yesterday reminded me that one of the most sacred rights we have is to be able to go out and cast our votes. remember we all have an obligation to accept the legitimacy of these elections. i was talking to terry to congrats lat him today. he got 600,000 more votes than any democratic has ever gotten. we brought out more democrats than ever was. more votes had been cast for a democratic incumbent -- not incumbent, for a democrat governor. what i do know is i do know that
people want us to get things done. they want us to get things done. and that's why i am continuing to push very hard for the democratic party to move along and pass my infrastructure bill and build back better bill. i think if we -- look. think about what we are talking about here. people are upset and uncertain about a lot of things, from covid to school to jobs to a whole range of things, the cost of a gallon of gasoline. and so if i'm able to pass -- sign into law my build back better initiative, i am in the position where you are going to see a lot of those things emiliorated quickly and swiftly. that has to be done. >> given what you said, do you take some responsibility? and do you think that terry mcauliffe would have won if you are agenda had passed before
election day? >> well, i think we should have -- it should have passed before election day. but i'm not sure that i would have been able to change the number of very conservative folks who turned out in the red districts who were trump voters. but maybe, maybe. >>. [ indiscernible ] >> i know we did. but we also -- i was running against donald trump. >> mr. president, what should democrats possibly do differently to avoid similar losses in november, given that republicans are running on culture war issues and false claims about critical race theory? >> i think we should produce for the american people. look, one of the things that is important to understand is that if we pass my legislation, we are going to be able to reduce the price -- people are going to see a reduction in the price of the drugs they have to get
because medicare will be able to negotiate and lower the price of drugs. if they pass my legislation, they are going to see that nobody, and some of you who have children in day care or children in child care, you are paying up to $14,000 a year if you live here. you will never have to pay that much money if you live in washington or wherever you live, no more than 7% of your income. they are going see that -- you know, they will get tax breaks, genuine tax breaks -- if that's trump, tell him i'm busy. bad joke. anyway. but the point is that, you know, we have to move and make it clear that what we've done is increasing -- look, people -- people need a little breathing room. they are overwhelmed. and what happened was i think we have to just produce results for them to change their standard of living and give them a little more breathing room. >> what is your message for
democratic voters, especially black voters who see republicans running on race, education, lying about critical race theory, and they are worried that democrats don't have an effective way to push back on that? >> well, i think that the whole send to just to speak the truth, lay out where we are. look, i'm convinced that -- if you look at everything from my view on criminal justice system, to my view on equal opportunity, to my view on economic issues and all the things that i have been pushing in legislation, each of the elements are overwhelmingly popular. we have to speak to them, though. we have to speak to them, and explain them. look, i just think people are at a point -- and it's understandable -- where there is a whole lot of confusion.
everything from are you ever going to get covid under control to are my kids going to be in school, are they going to be able to stay in school, to whether or not i'm going to get a tax break that allows me to be able to pay for the needs of my kids and my family. and they are all things that we are going to -- that i am running on, that we'll run on, and i think we'll do fine. >> mr. president -- >> this ought to be good. >> i think so, too. about the way forward, mr. president, as you were leaving for your overseas trip there were reports that were surfacing that our administration is planning to pay illegal immigrants who were separated from their families at the border up to $450,000 each, possibly $1 million per family. do you think that that might incentivize more people to come over illegally? >> if you guys keep sendsing that garbage out, yeah. but it's not true. >> so this is a garbage report?
>> yeah. $450,000 per person is that what you are saying? >> that was separated from a family member at the border under the last administration. >> that's not going to happen. >> just a follow-up because you mentioned trump a couple of times. when you went to try to help terry mcauliffe in -- you mentioned trump 24 times. do you still think that voters really want to hear you talking about trump more than the issues affecting them every day? >> well, the reason i mentioned trump, i didn't count the times, is because issues he supports are affecting their lives every day and having a negative impact on their lives every day. thank you all very much. . >> as we were talking about, a little fact check there from the head of the democratic party, the incumbent president of the united states of america making -- i have not seen him do this before, describing a -- maybe he should do this every day, take questions from fox
news and knock down the diss info at the source, describing the report as garbage in a claimed that the administration would pay each family separated under the trump administration $450,000 each. i want to get to some of the other headlines. obviously the big news in terms of fighting the pandemic there, a vaccine is now available, approved for kids ages 5-11. the president wrapped it in something that has to be on every politician's mind today. that's the need to keep schools open. his sort of political analysis there are that people in this country are confused. i heard from a source earlier today he understands they are frustrated and singled these things out about covid, whether it will end, whether my kids can stay in school and whether or not the things he promised as part of his agenda will get through. he acknowledged that he wishes
his policies had been voted through before the election for terry mcauliffe. noted it wasn't democratic turnout that was the problem. that it was the numbers that youngkin put up had to be unravelled and analyzed forensically because it wasn't a phony promise to ban something that wasn't being taught, that the voters heard something different than this specific narrow legal theory that isn't being taught. they heard something wrapped in something described as wokism, also the covid issues, the ptsd that jeremy is talking about parents teaching their kids in a half-ass manner, and doing their job in a half-ass manner as a result. it seems that the president here is taking all of this in. what do you think?
>> he is. seems like what we have to appreciate from a political context, a couple of things. one, this crt issue became an avatar for a whole host of issues and frustrations that americans had across the country sort of, you know, drizzled down into the sior, ews of the virginia electorate as we also see in the new jersey electorate. the second piece was that avatar played out the same -- for mcauliffe the same way defund the police played out for democrats in the 2020 cycle that, too, became an avatar not just about policing, but a lot of other things that netted 1 house seats for republicans. the third piece is -- well, i think that, yeah, you have -- the president noted strong democratic turnout and really
large republican turnout. you also lost the suburbs. you lost white educated women in the suburbs, who returned to the republican party along the lines of what we were just talking about. so it's a combination of forces that really go back to how the democrats approach this election. terry mcauliffe, for good, bad, or whatever reason, decided to nationalize it, make it about trump. youngkin smartly decided i know trump is my achille's heel, i am going to talk about issues other than trump, i am going to localize it and make it something that's relatable to people. and he was given quite ab opening window to do that, where he defined himself around those sort of bread and butter kitchen table issues. it wasn't until mid to late summer before mcauliffe went on the air to now try to undefine that narrative that youngkin was successful at. so it was a combination of political blunders, not
understanding what the electorate was saying over the the course of the summer, and certainly being handed the gift of a gaff, if you will, around education and parenting that he couldn't recover from. >> as someone who has been on win asking losing campaigns, this is the point this the program where i want to point out that losing campaigns are always viewed as more stupid and incompetent than they ever actually are. winning campaigns are always described as more brilliant than they actually are. this was' house. all the history was working in mcauliffe's dpshsz against mcallive. let me quote this. the republican party, populated with cranks, crooks, clowns, bigots and deranged conspiracy theorists has spend five years alienating voters.
the gop party is the party of marjorie taylor green lauren bow bert and matt gaetz and louie go hert. sane republicans are heading for exits even as assaults on democratic litmus test. why can't we beat these guys. your theory and advice, tim? >> look, i think sometimes there is a bit of a disconnect from people who are really engaged in politics day in and day out. i think there are people what watch this show and follow us on twitter who are rightfully outraged by what happened on january 6th. who look at the marjorie taylor greens and the bow geerts of the world and they disgust them. who look at the ftse they are playing with white nationalists and apology for white national terrorists and can't stomach republicans for voting that way.
i feel that way. i can understand there are republicans watching who don't get why other people don't feel like them and why other people can vote for glen youngkin that's eni believe aing this stuff. i think the answer to charlie's question is that people need to keep in mind the job of politicians is different of that of activists and news shows and commentators. politicians need to talk to all the folks. there is a huge swath of folks who don't care that much about january 6th. they didn't like it for two days. now they are mad that their gas prices and grocery prices are going up, that their child care prices are through the roof or maybe because they have to watch their kids because schools were closed so long in virginia. people were frustrated by everyday things. they looked at their state in virginia, it was all democrats running it. they looked at washington, it was all democrats running it. what they are hearing is all this talk about trump and how crazy republicans are and all of
this infighting about how many trillions we are going to spend. and they weren't hearing how are you going to solve my problems right now. you know, is that the whole electorate? no. but is it enough people to make the difference in a 2% race in virginia? i think say absolutely. say what you want about glen youngkin. i don't think he ran a brilliant race or had a brilliant strategy but he talked about thing that connected people. he also talked about you fouhy stuff, critical race theory, which has been debunked. but i think it is important to to the obsess about that, and do two things, rile up your base, and speak to real concerns. the less engaged less on line ideological voters in the middle of the electorate. >> we should go there, on what republicans all over the country at every level are studying
today. jeremy, i want to start with you, that is how much distance is the right amount of distance from donald trump. you out approximate it perfectly. you said youngkin kissed the ring but didn't drink the cool aid when it came to trump. explain what -- look, i'm with tim. i think -- and bill crystal articulated this, the rot goes all the way to the top of the gop. he took his endorsement in an even that benefitted the entire gop ticket in virginia. youngkin wasn't there but a flag that has been at the insurrection had appeared -- i mean, he didn't put enough distance between himself and donald trump for me, for an institutionalist republican, but he sure as heck did for virginia republicans. they came home to youngkin big time. >> yeah. virginia republicans -- i have heard some refer to them as biden republicans who just
couldn't stomach trump. so they ended up voting for biden. those people came home. but also, a lot of swing voters, too. so what glen youngkin was abel basically able to do was to have an open line of communication to donald trump and his -- donald trump's operation, say, like, look, you know, i'm with you. i'm not going to attack you. and basically, trump proficient -- appreciated that. he didn't really know glen youngkin. if you go back and listen to one of the tapes of trump's appearance at that rally that you just referred to, nicole. it is almost as if trump doesn't know how to pronounce or even know what glen youngkin's last name is. so there was nothing really there, good or bad. and that was a tremendous help to youngkin because his worst nightmare would have been if donald trump started attacking
him. now, that is i think a point that often gets lost here. trump's endorsement doesn't really have the same power that his attacks do against a republican. >> right. >> his endorsement often is fine. i doesn't hurt. but it's when he comes out and attacks republicans that it really sings them. youngkin kept that line open so trump didn't feel alienated, didn't feel brushed off. and he was happy to sit back and not issue nasty statements. and it worked. and i think -- you know, the point that tim made about what ordinary voters see and what we in journalism circles often talk about, that that disconnect is very real, because you know, for most people donald trump has been off the radar. the deplatforming has been a real help to the republican party in a way that i think doesn't get talked about enough. trump isn't in the ether like he
used to be. he is not dominating the news cycle the way he used to be. he can't move markets and create as much chaos and debate as he used to in the national political conversation because he doesn't have the platforms he used to. so to have terry mcauliffe and his campaign and democrats elevating him by talking about hmm so much, i think that was really discordant with what was on the minds of a lot of voters in virginia who are like, why are they spending so much time talking about this guy who is not on the ballot? >> it is a really interesting probably hard truth. i mean, trump is over in terms of republican politics. youngkin made him really a non-factor for all the reasons tim has described and that we cover here, you know, his assault on our democracy and the investigation into that assault is something that warrants attention and coverage, but i hear what you are saying, jeremy. and i wonder, michael steele, if i could ask you to take the
other side of this. what rose to sort the national conversation was the dog whistle, was the campaign promise that youngkin made at his events, on day one, i will ban critical race theory. i did my own research, i read the "washington post" didorrial, critical race theory isn't taught in virginia public schools or any public school in america, according to the "washington post." but that's not what that ban was about. explain. >> no. that ban was about a couple of things. getting the base, again, fired up about a non-existent issue. when you saw the videotapes of people being legitimately asked. okay, what you are upset about this. what are you upset about? they are saying i just don't want to get into it right now. it's really complicated. no, it isn't. no, it isn't. your sixth grader is not being
taught critical race theory. your college student is not being taught critical race theory. this is a high-end theory that's taught and discussed in a theoretical sense at the law school level. this is a legal theory and analysis. so what the gop has effectively done is kind of drill it down, dumb it down to something that, you know, it's like all of those immigrants going to be crossing the border in 2018. right? you know, folks living up in new hampshire, you all better be prepared. you are sitting there going, i'm in new hampshire. i have got to be concerned about a caravan of mexicans, right? it was the same concept that was applied to something like this. the problem is, it continues the narrative around race for the gop, that they seem to dig themselves further and further
into. and i don't know how, you know, on the back end youngkin is going to do what, execute an executive order banning something that's not currently being done in the state? and then what? because the reality of it is, voters will quickly understand, as a lot of african-american voters already know, that that's not our truth. and here's the last point real quick. can we just -- can we just out out there what this is really about. you have the black community, in whatever form and substance, whether it is through a theory being taught that has been taught at hbcus and other institutions at a high end, high level for over 40 years, nicole -- this isn't something that was just made up three weeks ago or six months ago or during the trump administration. s that 40-year-old study. but it speaks to the 1619 project and other efforts that have been underway -- [ no audio ]
>> michael steele, you muted yourself. you have got to unmute -- >> i'm sorry. i hit the microphone, i was so excited. >> start over. i was riveted. we lost you at the 1619 project. start again. >> you have got african-americans talking about the 1619 project and putting out that study. putting out their truth, their history you have got this theory that's now been pulled out of the ether and made a political whipping post for republicans to go after school board members with. but all of it boils down to the fact that black folks are just telling their story now. and they have had enough of that story being told by white folks. so now some white folks are not happy about that. so they are threatened by it. we are not saying we want your kids to be fearful of this, that, or the other thing. we want your kids to understand,
damn ayet. we want them to know, contextualize this history and how we have been in the same struggle together for over 400 years. this hasn't been a separate journey, america. this has been a duality. this is the ying and the yang. this is the up and the down. this is the right and the left -- not in political context. but synergy of it is what appearance are now trying to get communities outside of their own to understand. and the response to that has been amazing. but also not shocking. so, you know, we are sitting there going, oh, yeah, they are going to be upset about this. right? but we still now are going to arm ourselves with the history and the narrative and tell our stories. it's not just saying -- you know, risk a rosa park story, but as we were discovering, there were others who were the
first to not give up their seat to a white woman on a bus. there were others who were the first to raise the flag about jim crow and the impact it has on people of color. so i think that's an important part of the discussion that everybody says they want. i just don't know or think they have been honest about how much they really want it. >> well, i mean, i just think you went farther in explaining what it was and what people heard. and i guess the thing for all of us to sort of mull and come back here day after day and talk about is -- it is clear the republicans don't want what you just described, michael steele, which makes me want to know if you are going to run as one. but, two, can we handle the truth? is the right sort of the new snowflake in american politics? or is this real and legitimate and universal, that moms and dads are really uncomfortable with what's being taught? while that's disappointing and distressing -- i am going to give everyone home work, to go
home and mull that question. >> i know -- >> how do we go forward from here. this really sbresing result. >> i think that's a -- >> go ahead. >> that's a good question. it is a fair question. no, i think you are right. and some really are, because of how it has been approached to them. i mean just go back a year ago. how many folks were running around concerned about critical race theory? i mean, did their child come home and say something, well i learned this theory today, mom, that, you know, i should hate my own race? i mean, have children been coming home saying that? sixth graders, fifth graders, kindergarteners, high schoolers? there is a lot more to this. and that's why i say this issue has been used as an avatar about other things. the transgender issue, the kinds of curricula that are being put together to begin some conversations in this space around race and civil rights.
but this isn't unusual. we have been here before. we can go back and document you know, how folks were concerned, how the civil rights movement emerged in the late '50s and how that was played out in the '60s. there is a reason why, you know, you had people standing in the schoolhouse door. they didn't want to educate black kids at all. certainly didn't want them integrated into programs with their white classmates. so we have been in this room before. now a lot of it, folks is just getting unpacked. unpacked in a way that, et cetera making folks a little uncomfortable. we want to walk through that with you. we don't want to isolate and alienate everyone from the conversation. we want everyone to get into night you do. we are going to lean on all of you to continue. thank you for starting us of. when we come back arc giant sense of relief. that is how some parents are describing how they are feeling today now that their kids can
also be protected from coronavirus with a vaccine. we will talk about what this looks like for family coming up. later in the program as we have been discussing, education may have been the issue that helped swing last night to the gop in virginia. we will look ahead to the culture war fights that are bubbling up all over the country. all those stories and more when "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. go anywhere. bye mom. my helpers abound, i'll need you today. our sleigh is now ready, let's get on our way. a mountain of toys to fulfill many wishes. must be carried across all roads and all bridges. and when everyone is smiling and having their fun i can turn my sleigh north because my job here is done. it's not magic that makes more holiday deliveries to homes in the us than anyone else, it's the hardworking people of the united states postal service. in 2016, i was working at the amazon warehouse when my brother passed away. and a couple of years later,
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we have been through about 600 days. >> 602 days. >> 602 days. not that we've been counting. and every parent can tell us a story about what that's really been like. it's been hard on all of us. and to know that we are about to begin a new day, it is just a giant sense of relief. >> it really is. the only thing other than worrying about your parents was worrying about your kids. that was 8-year-old carter who just received his first covid shot. his dad sharing a giant sense of relief as pfizer's two dose pediatric vaccine finally starts to get administers to kids ages 4 5-11. yesterday a cdc panel unanimously voted to authorize the covid vaccine for that group. president biden earlier this hour reiterated his programs
that the rollout will roll out over the next days and be up and running next week. joining us a professor of pediatrics at albert einstein college of medicine. doctor, and you i have been talking about the kid vaccine as long as you have been coming on the show, which is all the way back to when we were still in the studio prepandemic. i saw some of our other colleagues sweet this morning that some drugs -- some pharmacies already have portals up for the kid vaccine. i made an appointment for next week. it is happening. >> it is happening. it's a really good thing. something that couldn't have come soon must have. laws week we had 100,000 pediatric cases. 425 hospital admissions of children with covid and sadly 16 children died with covid just last week. i think it is time we give children the same kind of protection that adults have now
had for many months. and like i said it couldn't come any time too soon. what we have now is an opportunity to make sure that those 28 million elementary school children get the vaccine that not only will protect them. but let's say they get a mild case of the covid-19 as a disease and they bring that home to a vulnerable adult who may be living in their household. everything possible that can be said about this to encourage parents to get their children vaccinated as soon as possible. maybe the one thing i should say is that i have seven grand children. and all except the three who were under 12 have not been vaccinated yet. all will become vaccinated the day it becomes available. i hope parents understand how important this is. >> pediatricians are some of the most important people in a parent's life. if you are really lucky, sometimes you get that pager number and you have it in your
phone and you know they will call you back. there is nothing like the comfort of a trusted pediatrician. tell me about the importance of keeping that line, that trust, that bond free from all the political noise that has polluted the covid conversation for nearly two years. >> right. so, as you can imagine, virtually all pediatricians that i know of and that have been reporting up to the american actually of pediatrics are completely supportive of getting this vaccine. the other things that's interesting about all of this is as opposed to the adult vaccine campaign, many will be vaccinated a the clinics and the pediatric offices they attend and so on. so the whole relationship around the vaccine and the person to be answering questions about it will be your long-time trusted pediatrician. where you will go to he or she and be able to talk about what's
involved, why it's important. and you will be hearing that message not from the president and not from some analyst on television, but from your own pediatrician. i think that's a really really important step that the government has taken to make sure that the information is coming sure that the information is coming in the right way to the parents who need to know what they need to know. >> we'll continue to call on you as this rollout gets underway. thank you for joining us today. major hearing today, the united states supreme court drawing the attention of those who survived unthinkable tragedies and dedicated their lives to prevent more gun violence in america. next. ence in america. next
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>> that was fred guttenberg who lost his daughter in the parkland shooting. as court hears oral arguments in a case that could change gun rights in america. the case involves a new york law that places limits on carrying guns outside the home. the law was challenged on two plaintiffs who were denied concealed carry permits. a lawyer saying in his closing quote, simply having more firearms is not a concern for this court. the court is expected to issue a decision next spring. joining us now, fred, your comments were electrifying and i just always come back to this. talk about your mission today and how jamie sort of pulls you to all these places and efforts. >> you know, i'll be honest with you. i was in a bit of a funk last
night. i didn't want to go this morning but my daughter actually as she often does, sent me a message that got me up and out and there. and the reality, nicolle, i listened to your last segment and i think about virginia schools where amazingly, this non-taught idea of critical race theory became more important than active shooter drills. that should be the most important thing we focus on. and i worry that what happened today in the supreme court is going to make it even harder to do anything to protect our kids and those we love. because i listened to the arguments. i mean, supreme court justice gorsuch and kavanagh, they came in with an agenda. they were activists in their questions. they did not concern themselves
with historical context. i was actually pleased with amy coney barrett, who did. i thought asked reasonable and thoughtful questions. but the, my fear listening to the questions, is they had no concern for public safety for the balance of public safety against what they deemed the second amendment. and for anyone who didn't listen to the arguments earlier today, you should be deeply concerned about what this activist court is going to do. >> what is the role, if any, at this point then of stronger legislation? i know that you've been involved in those fights. i know president biden has been in touch with you and with the gun safety community, but someone asked me today where gun safety legislation is in congress and it isn't even among the myriad of things we talk
about right now. why is that? >> well, because it's impossible to pass things in the senate and so again, i listened to your last segment. democrats, get off your butts, get over your wounds from yesterday. you have an election to win in 2022. we have a senate to deliver and a house to keep and we can pass gun safety legislation. so my message to the democrats is this. while you've been delivering on substance, you have failed at the theatre of theatre. get the theatre down. let's win because lives depend on it. the other party is not going to participate in doing anything to save lives. it is clear. let's make them irrelevant. they want to be irrelevant. let's govern, let's communicate what's happening. let's save lives because i have news for you, nicolle. the nra, i've often said my
daughter was the cost of doing business for them. they are getting their return on investment now in the courts. we can't let it happen. >> you are welcome here any day and every day. we often look to our leaders in washington and ask those very same questions. so thank you, my friend, for being there and for being here. it's nice to see you. >> thank you. >> the next hour starts after a quick break. don't go anywhere. starts after quick break. don't go anywhere. so they only pay for what they need. woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ instantly clear everyday congestion with vicks sinex saline. for fast drug free relief vicks sinex. instantly clear everyday congestion. and try vicks sinex children's saline. safe and gentle relief for children's noses.
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on the education and taxes, like which one is more important and why? >> both are very important and i believe mcauliffe hurt himself a lot with no place to talk about education and that took away my support. >> they are my children and i believe that i do have a right in their education. i actually have a say in it and working with the teachers and
everything. >> when you look at the plitization of schools, you know, that just strikes me as wrong. there is a way to have civil discourse at the school board level, but you know, again, the whole education thing points glenn youngkin made i found very persuasive. >> it's 5:00 in new york. it became a flash point or should we say, the flash point, among voters. education and the extent to which parents should have control over what their children are learning. ultimately leading republicans just one year ago the democratic candidate for president, president biden, won by ten points. "new york times" reports on the phenomenon we witnessed last night, quote, with their focus on parental rights, a catch all rallying cry capturing conservative outrage over mask mandates, vaccination requirement, transgender rights and how the history of racism is
taught, republicans found an issue that energized their voters. uniting the white grievance politics with the trump base with angering over schooling during the pandemic. it became a perfect storm of frustration, one that republican candidate youngkin was more than willing to tap into it. here he is the night before the election. >> friends, this is our moment where we stand up for our children, our grandchildren, our nieces, our nephews and neighbors and we decide that we in fact are going to be in charge of our children's education. on day one, we're going to work to reestablish expectations of excellence in our schools. on day one, we will not have political agendas in the classroom and i will ban critical race theory. on day one, we will declare that virginia schools never will be closed again to five days a week in-person education. >> we're going to stop right here and address the fact
critical race theory is not taught in virginia public schools. it's unclear what that ban will do, but youngkin's appeal on education went farther and broader than that one lie. gary abernathy rights in "the washington post," quote, the fact that parental rights in education became a central campaign issue shows that populism is still a potent element in u.s. politics and in the republican party. even with trump out of the white house, populism, not conservatism, remains the develop's principle identity. the movement is driven by apathetic citizens who are suddenly examining every title with every resolution, at local school boards or congress. tuesday's result shows that biden's win had more to do with trump fatigue. it's a tough pill for democrats to swallow as they look forward to the midterm elections. the answer may be get better at
fighting in the culture war trenches. here's a piece, quote, right now, the mainstream of the national democratic party is still focused on policy, not culture. they're trying to govern, which is the job they were elected to do, but at some point, they'll need to start campaigning again and if democrats believe that the passage of an infrastructure program and a large social spending bill will provide the ammunition to repel a new gop-launched culture war, then they are diluted themselves. if you weigh the concerns of parents with their kids education against a subsidy for electric cars or a better rail system some years down the line, the scales will tip pretty heavily to one side and that is where we begin this hour with some of our most favorite reporters and friends. john heilemann is here, the host of the circus and the podcast the recount. steve schmidt is here and the
former congressman, donna edwards. steve, you first. >> well, a couple of things about this. democrats should be very alarmed about the momentum republicans have heading now into the midterm elections a year out. some very, very ominous writing on the wall. when you look at the loss, i think the first thing you have to appreciate is the awesome efficiency of the right wing propaganda machine. this race was fought substantially around the issue of critical race theory, which doesn't exist in reality in virginia schools, but a significant portion of the population has taken that and allowed it to be a proxy for a range of cultural issues. terry mcauliffe made a grievous mistake. in this era of covid, what all
of us share in common at a fundamental level is a loss of control. an agency over our lives. and so what terry mcauliffe said is to the parents of virginia in fact, no, you don't get a say. they delivered a resounding rejection of that. and then lastly, what i would say about all of these issues is democrats have to understand and i think be able to confront the racial animus that is teeming with the dog whistle messaging that you saw youngkin engage in during the course of the campaign without alienating the majority of white working class voters. and the way you do that i think is by offering something better. appealing to something higher. some unity of national purpose.
i don't think it's on policies and the last thing i would say this. is when you're talking about the size of the domestic spending programs that the democrats have put forward, and you look at the democratic defeats or near defeats in places like new jersey. you look at the message that the voters are sending. there is an alert, an allergy, to the size of the spending that we're seeing that is playing into republican hands and there's a lot of voters who voted for trump. who voted against trump and now voted for youngkin just a year later. so it's an ominous sign for democrats. they've not had a good year. >> john heilemann, you were on the front lines of the sort of meltdown at the core. tell me what you saw. >> well, i think, i don't think
anything steve said just now, i would disagree with. i think it's all right on as he often is. and i think you know, there was in addition to all of that, and i will say you know, we were, we did as you know, a circus episode on the virginia race a couple of weeks ago and it was right at the moment where that monmouth poll showed up. >> right, the momentum shifted. >> you look at the numbers inside that. it shifted. that poll said not only that the race was tied, but it said mcauliffe had gone from plus nine to independents to the negative nine. an 18-point swing in one month and really it was only because of the education issue. he made the mistake in the debate then it put him in position where he was on defense. all he was doing is arguing on terrain he did not want to fight. it's obviously a huge blunder on his part. the fact that he rolled in every
democrat, every big national democratic surrogate he could to try to drive up democratic turnout especially on the message that youngkin was trump when in fact, what trump, what youngkin had done over the course of the race was whether you like him or not, whether you acknowledge, racial dog whistles all over the place, he played to the trump base in the primary. there were a lot of things about youngkin that were trump like. at the end of october, that was not dog food the dogs were eating. the key swing voters had decided to claim youngkin was not trump and that argument fell on deaf ears. didn't animate enough democrats to come out. but i think the key element of that is that terry mcauliffe didn't want to fight on the terrain of education. the biggest thing the youngkin campaign did was make education a proxy and elevate it to the point where it was the second
most important issue in the campaign. i've never seen a statewide campaign, let alone a national campaign, in my 30 year of doing this where education was the number two issue. never once. that's a tactical and strategic brilliance on his part. he didn't have a way to fight on the terrain that youngkin laid out and that serves as a big metaphor, which is that democrats must be able to fight on the cultural terrain, but the last thing i'll say is this. i think what the biden administration would say is that they're not, they don't believe the democratic party should fight on policies or electric cars. they think their dplesic agenda is going to get the economy going again. the one thing that will take the wind out of the sails, not all the wind, the racism is still out there, the grievance is still out there, but an economy that's booming and doesn't have rising prices and supply chain
issues. that economy a year from now, i'm just predicting it will, if that were to come to pass, that would take a lot of, some of, at least a key amount of the energy out of those cultural issues because a rising economy tends to put a little bit of a damper on populism, at least historically that's been true and i think that's the bet the biden administration is making. >> i remember when steve kornacki had the first exit polls in my hour and the two top issues were the economy and education and youngkin had an advantage on both of them and i said well before the results, does that mean youngkin is ahead right now? obviously that wasn't information available to any of us, but to have the republican swing such big numbers, i mean plus 15 to plus around what is sort of part distortion, critical race theory, part sort of the universality of this fatigue, this feeling of being broken by not knowing when
schools were going to open again, not knowing when your kid was going to be vaccinated again, by pulling that which was universal to something true and running up these numbers in the suburbs, what is the answer to that? >> first of all, democrats have to get comfortable with the idea of fighting toe to toe with republicans over these issues. what has been universally described as a culture war or an education issue was a race issue. this year, tony morrison was turned into a welfare queen critical race theory was elevated and it was about race. and i think even with all of the other issues related to schools and opening and masks and those things, they were bolstered and hidden in some ways behind glenn
youngkin running on critical race theory that he knew hit a chord around race. and it should be no surprise to democrats anymore that from trump and for decades that some republican candidates are perfectly willing to use race as a motivating factor for their base. that has gone on for decades and it happened this year in 2021. so what can democrats do? democrats need to start fighting these issues and i guarantee you that if terry mcauliffe had come out head on fighting glenn youngkin around this race issue, it would have motivated all those voters in the tide water region and in some of the rural areas where there are plenty of black voters to come to the polls and that did not happen. so when voters see that you're not going to fight for them, then they're not willing to fight for you.
and on another front, losing white women, to me, all that says is that we can't tell voters what's important to them. candidates have to listen to what voters describe as important this them then figure out a way to respond and when democrats start doing that, then we can win elections and while the build back better plan might be part of what helps to win elections, really, these culture wars are going to be used in one election contest after the other and we have to hit it head on. hit it early and not be afraid, even as democrats and especially white democrats, are talk k about race. >> steve, i think donna just articulated the democratic strategy. it's listening and fighting. can you as a strategist offer one theory of a case as to what
that looks like? >> i think it requires democratic candidates to lay out a societal proposition. what type of society do we want to live in in the third decade of the 21st century. at the hinge of extraordinary change that will occur over the next 20 years with advances of science and technology. let's start with the proposition that binds us and let's put a question on the table that we can answer because all of our grandchildren and their grandchildren no matter what our political dispositions are, are all going to be living together within the boundaries of this geographical place. so i would start with the idea that at last, are we all created equal? all of us. by birthright, naturalization, as citizens of the great republican. black and white and hispanic.
guy and straight. everybody. do we stand equally? does everybody deserve equal justice under the law? does everybody deserve to be treated fairly? do people deserve to be treated with dignity and with respect and what does that look like? what is the type of society we are building? what is the harmony that we are searching for? how do we reestablish the principle in this country again of live and let live where we don't succumb to the great lie of that every person who is different from you in appearance or in thinking is your mortal enemy who is to be destroyed. and lastly, we have to start talking about the truth. we have to start talking about reality. if donald trump was the threat that a lot of us said that he was to democracy and to the
republic, then why has there been zero and i mean, zero action, legislatively, to harden our institutions? to increase our etics laws? to prevent the types of abuses we saw over the last four years? so when nothing is done, it becomes difficult for democrats to run against trump in perpetuity as a bogeyman because it looks like a prop, not a serious, not a serious issue. and so when we look at the totality of it all, you know, democrats have to offer a vision for this country, for people that is unifying, that brings people together and that talks about opportunity and talks about the greatness of the country. certainly these results when you look at them in their broad
spectrum athe country or at least in part, i think the first stages of a growing backlash to the excesses of woke culture, it's manifested in a lot of racial animus you see draped up again in critical race theory and others. but there's a lot to be heard from the american voter if you listen to the results across the country in this election and democrats need to heed them because our democracy is at stake if they don't listen. they can't figure out how to communicate with people that would rather be in an alliance with the people who threaten democracy because they think the people over here are a greater threat to them personally than the people who have taken a pass on 245 years of democratic tradition in the country. >> it's a conversation at the starting line.
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uncertain about a lot of things from covid to school to jobs to a whole range of things. the cost of a gallon of gasoline. so if i'm able to sign into law my build back better initiative, we're in the position to see a lot of those things ameliorated. quickly and swiftly. >> president biden's only nine months into his presidency, not yet to pardon a single thanksgiving turkey and already after one gubernatorial election, there's an effort underway to question his political strength and viability and that of his party when the time comes for re-election. surely the defeat in virginia was significant, but in the grand scheme of political turns and tides, it might have been a relatively cheap lesson for democrats. a wake up call they heeded with enough time to change course with the white house and the administration does with that
time entirely up to them. john heilemann is back with us. so, john, you know better than i do the white house's bet is on deliverables. this one is the infrastructure package, the hard infrastructure, the human infrastructure. it feels like that's still the theory of the case. is that still the winning theory of the case? >> i was driving back in from the mcauliffe event last night coming across the bridge there from arlington ceremony to the lincoln memorial and thinking about joe biden, looking at the lincoln memorial, always a beautiful drive. you're thinking about biden was about to land and our later and you've been on trips with the president where you come home on a late night flight and when you land, it's not great news. i give them a credit today.
the president did not look panicked. the white house has not seemed panicked today. their attitude is they're taking this seriously and there's no doubt in a democratic party that is always replete with bedwetters, they had a lot of incoming over the course of this day. people were concerned and scared. a lot of electives who were freaked about this. to hold your composure in a situation like that is a big task and to your point, i think the by they look at this is the president hasn't had a lot of wins since october. now we're in november. the president hasn't really chalked up any really big political wins and i think they see those wins are just out of reach and i think if you ask the president, if you asked those folks, they would say if we can get these two big bills passed, we will look back, the build back better plan and the infrastructure plan, which is waiting to get signed, they will end this year and say is america
better off at the end of 2021 than it was at the start on the two things that matter most? on getting washington to work and on the pandemic? they will be able to say they accomplished a huge amount if they get those passed and the situation with the pandemic is well in hand if not over. vastly better than it was 12 months ago. the question then for democrats is what are they going to do with what elections are about? the future, not the past. and how aggressively can they start building a future oriented message for the party heading into midterms that are going to be very tough, especially after last night. >> the other asymmetry that i think exists, i was talking at a youngkin event last weekend, democratic campaign sort of apparatus and hierarchy. is it republican adviser can go
to a candidate and say, say this. if they ask why? it will help you win. they march out and say it. it seems to me that democratic campaigns don't work that way. they say this would help you and they say, well, i'd rather congress, both bodies pass a deal, hash it out. why do they make it so hard on them? it's like strapping two giant sacks of rocks on their backs and climbing up to the top of the peak to get these two bills passed with a coalition that spans progressives to manchin and i wonder why the democrats can't simply communicate their values and communicate on a gut emotional level when they have the moral high ground, they have the facts and they have public opinion behind most of their positions where republicans really don't. >> there's a couple of different parts. the first is, it's been said by many people. democrats are cursed with the responsibility gene, right? democrats believe in governing.
they believe in government. they believe in making, in doing stuff in the notion that government exists to try to help people and it turns out that doing big things with government isn't easy at any point in time. especially when the democratic party controls everything so they have this big, broad, diverse coalition, but they always revert to that responsibility chain. that's what hillary clinton used to call it. she had a responsibility gene. the republicans, because they don't want government, they don't like government, they don't want to pass things, they're free to think about the politics of things. the ideological convictions of the parties put them on a different plane when it comes to waging campaign politics. that's part one. part two is your point. what you've seen over our lifetimes together watching political campaigns play out is that there have been democrats who have been very good at speaking in communicating in terms of democratic values anned making the case for democratic programs and making the kind of big theory of the case on emotional terms, on the cultural
plane, on the economic plane. bill clinton was a master at that. barack obama was a master at that. and there have been democrats up and down the ballot who have done that well over the last 20 or 30 years, but there's always a bunch who don't seem to be able to do it and they lapse into a kind of technocratic policy driven lingo. especially at a time like this where the country is on fire with anxiety, fear, grievance, anger, polarization and panic still for a lot of people, what steve was talking about, the lack of control over our lives that a lot of people feel in the wake of the pandemic and of everything that's happened over the last couple of years. if you can't speak in that kind of emotional language that hits at the psychic solar plexus of the country, you are at a huge disadvantage because republicans in their exploitive way, are really good at that. and that fear.
if democrats don't have a way to talk about it, they will lose next year no matter how successful the biden economic agenda is. they'll be at a huge disadvantage in the midterms because that's where a lot of these fights are going to get waged. >> president biden can do it. i got the sort of word back today that he's been through, you know, extraordinary things, both high-end on the tragic end in his life so the highs never get too high and what you're describing at the beginning, this composure, steadyness. his campaign was animated by restoring the soul of our country. it will be interesting to see if he starts talking to that more than getting the progressives and manchin in a room. john heilemann, i wanted to talk to you -- >> it's been a long time since we've heard that and i think you're right. joe biden needs to find his way back home to some of those themes that animated the
campaign. got to get back up on the mountain top a little bit and out of the weeds. >> feeling people's pain. became clinton's bumper sticker. it's joe biden's way of life, whether a child that stutters, a person fighting cancer, lost a child or a parent. it is the life he has lived in and out of politics. so thank you, john heilemann, for spending some extra time with us today. it's nice to see you. >> thanks. when we come back, another day, another republican filibuster on you guessed it. voting rights. why the gop might want to rethink its opposition to the right to vote after last night. that's next. to the right to vote after last night that's next. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world.
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this is about our democracy and one of the most important pillars, which is whether or not we are going to make it more difficult as is happening in many states or protect it and make it easier for people to vote. that's what's at stake right now and it is a shame that nearly every republican in the united states senate refused to even allow a debate on this issue. >> that was vice president kamala harris reacting today after the jon lewis voting rights advancement act, a major priority of democrats in the senate, failed to reach the 60-vote minimum required to break the filibuster. that vote coming after a bipartisan group of senators
includingly lisa murkowski of alaska. what we saw yesterday in virginia that had passed numerous voting rights bills that improved enhanced ballot access of the past year is that these measures allowed for huge gains for republican turnout over the state. after the big lie to enact restriction law, we wondered today republicans might notice the voting expansion legislation has spent the past two years blocking and fighting actually benefit them? joining our conversation, ari and eddie. your thoughts on that, ari first. >> well, i think you're right, nicolle. that virginia shows that republicans can win in states that make it easier to vote. that there's no bias for democrats when you make it easier to vote. there's a bias for democracy and
that's how democracy should work is to open it up and then let everyone compete fairly. however, i don't think that republicans are going to draw that conclusion. you're already hearing republicans say they're going to try to repeal the election laws in virginia that they won against and the fact that so many of them are voting today against the voting rights act right after they won in virginia, i think shows that the republican party has become the party of voter suppression, even though we know that republicans can win when you expand voting rights. >> i was thinking about you last night as we sort of sifted through what the youngkin and mcauliffe campaigns were and were not. a lot of democrats not wanting to sort of come out and talk about why. so that's what we're all here to do. democrats theory of the case is that bills, legislation,
outputs, deliverables, will enhance, improve and safeguard their prospects in the midterms. i hear a lot of appetite for two things donna edwards mentioned. listening and fighting. what i hear people really upset about is nothing being done and no exceptions being made for voting rights legislation and no fight in what they see from most democrats. >> no one is talking about manchin holding up voting rights, holding up police reform. there's a sense the party's not fighting for folks. i think it's really important for us to make a distinction. there's a practical politics of the matter, but we've been saying this is an existential issue. in some ways, the demographics have unleashed panic and terror about what america is. what kind of country, who are
we. and part of this issue around voting rights is really whose voice has a say. when they said stop the steal, nicolle, they weren't talking about idaho. they were talking about atlanta. milwaukee. philadelphia. they were talking about detroit. and so this, no matter how it benefits them, the poll tax would hurt folk who might support a racist in the context of jim crow because they wanted to announce a certain citizenship. when we think about this as an -- that belongs to a certain group of people. >> central is the fair word in the sort of it's been described as an avatar for the education issue, which was voters said the second most important issue, this pledge to ban critical race theory. ari, i wonder where you think this is heading? it feels like all the momentum, especially after last night, is on the republican side.
these voter suppression bills were already racing through. republicans have this psychological win last night. big ones around issues like critical race theory and education. what if any impact do you think it has on whether democrats might be more willing to consider a carve out of the filibuster? >> what happened in virginia should increase the sense of urgency for democrats. they're in power now, but may not be for long. they need to urgently protect democracy before it's too late and they lose the power to do it. i think they have demonstrated a good faith effort to reach out to republicans on voting rights and they have seen continued republican obstruction. this is now the fourth time that voting rights legislation has been blocked by senate republicans. the voting rights agent was authorized 98-0 in 2006.
you remember that. you were working for george bush at the time. 15 years later, only one senate republican, lisa murkowski, supported restoring the voting rights act. we heard these tributes, when it comes time to vote for the act, they vote against it. so democrats are going to have to go it alone to protect the voting rights and they're going to have to do it very, very soon because they could lose power soon. they're also running out of time to roll back the voter suppression election subversion, the extreme gerrymandering the republicans are doubling down on every single day. >> eddie, where would you put the odds that the republicans are doing something around the filibuster? do you think they're more or less inclined to do that after last night? >> i'm not sure. i'm from mississippi, so i wouldn't hold your breath. so you know, i'm just not sure.
the republicans supported a president and people who tried to overthrow the country and there have been no political costs. none. steve just said in the last segment that some people believe that the democratic party are progressives represent more of a threat than the people who tried to overthrow the republic. damn. what's at the heart of that? so either they do something dramatic or they become complicit in handing over the republic to these folk who don't give a damn about other people. >> where are you feeling today the most likely end point is, eddie? >> where do i feel the more likely end point? >> which path do you think they're going to take? my sense is that republicans feel a lot of bravado after these wins last night and that democrats instead of feeling desperate and urgent as ari is suggested they should, but feel
cowed. what is your hunch and what happens to voting rights? >> i have no idea. >> fair enough. i'm exhausted. i'm exhausted. i have no idea to be honest where you. >> my hope is what ari said, that that breaks through. that this is a fleeting opportunity. that off year elections are brutal to any president's party and the time is now. we'll stay on it now. ari thank you so much for your reporting and for spending time with us. eddie sticks around today. day three of the kyle rittenhouse murder trial. quick break. e murder trial quick break.
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today. >> well, most of today was testimony by the investigator who is from the kenosha police department and jurors watched just tons of video, amateur video coverage from protesters that were there and a lot of it was pretty disturbing. they watched as the three people were shot and as detectives walked through what happened. >> you tweeted this. judge schroeder has repeatedly says he plans to treat this trial like any other homicide case, but it's not a normal case. it will determine whether -- responsible for needless deaths. that is sort of the perfect encapsulation of what this is about. does that, i mean, just from what you're watching, does that feel like is captured in what's being presented to the jury? >> yes, it's what's been going
on. both sides are trying to show the jury, i mean, really, the prosecution keeps pointing out that during all of this chaos, all of really the craziness of that night, the only person who killed anyone was kyle rittenhouse, which you know, he has admitted to doing. but the defense really wants to paint this picture of he had to do this because he was being chased, because there was things going on that were out of his control. and so the prosecution i believe will wrap up their side this week and then next week it will be up to the defense to try to prove that mr. rittenhouse was under this duress at the time of the killings. >> this is also from your reporting. a jury pool of 11 women and nine men were chosen in just one day
on monday. of the 20 people selected, there's only one who appears to be a person of color. many asked to be excluded saying they were afraid to serve. they didn't want to have arguments with family or friends. so chilling, but so revealing about how this trial is being experienced locally. if you could tell me more about that. one thing that's pretty surprising here is this case has gotten so much national attention but locally, there's nobody here. the only person that's outside is justin blake, who's jacob blake's uncle and jacob is the black resident who was shot by police, which kicked off this entire thing last year. and there's nobody in the courthouse. there's just a lot of media. so i feel like in kenosha, people want to put this behind them. and the jurors, a lot of the potential jurors said they
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