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yes, formulated to help your body really truly absorb the natural goodness. new chapter. wellness well done. so, moving pieces as we come on the air this afternoon, watching for president biden who we just learned is set to speak this hour from the white house. officially he'll be talking covid vaccines for kids, but you know our team will be right there ready to ask him about the new political reality after those wins for republicans on his watch, and the one race that's still not overcoming up here in new jersey. they're still counting votes. 19 hours after the polls closed. the election for governor, nobody thought would be this close, is still that close. new numbers coming in by the minute. so you know what? steve kornacki, the man who never sleeps, is standing by at the big board with the latest numbers from across the state. and the numbers across the country don't seem to be looking
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too great for democrats. this afternoon what the path forward looks like for the party after losses in virginia and beyond. sources telling nbc news the internal blame game is real. city lawmakers reeling, pushing for something concrete to take home to voters with developments coming in on that social safety net package floating around the house, which just got put back into that bill and whether that makes it easier or harder to pass. we are here juggling a lot of pieces of news on this afternoon. i'm hallie jackson in washington along with our nbc news team, msnbc national political correspondent steve kornacki as mentioned, posted up at the big board. political editor mark murray is here with the key take aways, what this means politically going forward for democrats. new reaction from both sides of pennsylvania avenue, lyanne caldwell is on capitol hill looks like in a basement. monica alba is at the white house. we just learned we expect to hear from president biden himself, possibly within the next 40 minutes or so, right? >> reporter: yeah, this is
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notable, hallie, because just 24 hours ago the president was the one who was trying to strike very optimistic tones on the outcomes of these races, both in virginia and new jersey. he predicted a victory in virginia, which clearly did not happen. but late last night when he returned from europe, he was met with plenty of reporter questions. he ignored all of those in the moment, but we are going to hear from him on the topic of covid vaccinations for children ages 5 to 11. so, of course, we will be pressing him on that. and afterwards hope he does take some questions. it's traditional for presidents after these kinds of election days to do a little bit of a postmortem, give their own reaction and assessment and we just haven't gotten that so far yet today. either from the president or from any of his top aides who have been here huddling behind closed doors in meetings, really trying to determine what the messaging is going to be. but i've been talking to democrats close to the white house who previewed what that's going to be, and in fact,
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they're going to try to use this to propel some momentum forward on the currently stalled economic agenda on capitol hill. they're going to try to make this argument, i think that's something you can expect to hear from the president, that voters were frustrated with inaction, with the nitpicking, with the back and forth, with the process piece of this because they want to see something get done. we should point out, though, that at the same time in our nbc news exit polls, voters said that for a majority of them, the president was not a factor in casting their ballot for whomever they supported in virginia at least, but absolutely this is a referendum on a young presidency so far for joe biden who, of course, when he was candidate biden just a year ago won the commonwealth of virginia by double digits, ten points. so a lot to answer for here at the white house today. >> so, virginia, steve, we know what happened there. new jersey? somehow, we don't know what's
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expected. tell us how long the numbers are taking to come in. i get it you don't have a crystal ball. do you think we'll know more relatively soon here? >> one thing that's reinforced in the last 24, 36 hours, whatever it's been, i've learned this election after election, i've relearned it this time. when you have election officials saying, hey, we think we have vote coming out at 3:00, it might mean tomorrow. very wearily do they keep to that schedule. >> i got it. i promise not to make you get out over your skis on that. >> i've been hearing things all day. at this point i don't know what to make of it. i do know to make of the basic situation in new jersey. phil murphy getting a credible scare from jack ciattarelli. a 15-point lead for phil murphy. this is a race even republicans in new jersey, i think a lot that i talked to in the last week or so were talking about this. maybe ciattarelli can get this in single digits, make it a
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little competitive. they weren't talking in these terms. ciattarelli has gotten extremely close to murphy here. can he get past him with the vote that's left in new jersey? that's where it's tricky for ciattarelli. what do we know about what's left in jersey? i'll give you a couple things we do know. right here, essex county, one of the biggest counties in the state, this is where the democrats typically get their biggest plurality in any election. it's right around newark. there's about 56 precincts that are left to report in essex county. they had all sorts of issues apparently with the voting machines there yesterday. the county clerk is indicating it won't be until tomorrow maybe that you get those numbers out of essex county. but again, you can see this is such a heavily democratic county. and, in fact, the communities in particular where these precincts are, are the most democratic cities within this democratic county. so murphy figures to get more out of essex county before all is said and done.
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we are also waiting on some vote down here, other end of the state. south jersey near philadelphia, we're waiting on some vote out of camden county a appears. you're seeing this is a strongly democratic county. murphy figures to gain here. there also seems to be say scattering of that absentee vote wherever it is the absentee vote tends to be? what favorable, maybe very favorable to the democrats. all a long way of saying there's opportunities we can find on the map for murphy to build on this lead. in terms of ciattarelli erasing this lead, countering it, hard to find those similar opportunities on the map at this point. >> we are going to see, steve. maybe in the next little bit here, maybe not, if we get some of those vote numbers in. steve, thank you. mark, u. been talking about, i know, in first read how democrats seem to have gotten caught up in the backlash of a negative national environment. talk about the take aways of what we're seeing not just in virginia where we know the results, but new jersey where we're looking to see what the final result will be.
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i think it's important, mark, the tendency is to draw a ton of lessons from one night. obviously there are some lessons to be drawn. there are some things that neither republicans nor democrats are going to want to take to the bank just yet. >> absolutely, hallie. what we do know in both virginia and new jersey is we end up seeing double-digit movement from the democratic party to the republican party. and so in virginia you go from a state where, in 2017 ralph northam won by nine points. joe biden won the state the next year by ten points. right now you end up having republican glenn youngkin with a two-point lead. that's a double digit shift in just the span of four years, hallie. the same situation occurring in new jersey where phil murphy ended up winning the election in 2017, you ended up having joe biden win in 2020 by 16 points. and then, you know, we have what steve was just breaking down essentially a tied race with
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phil murphy with just like the narrowest of leads. so, you know, one result, one race you can say, hey, it was the tactics or strategy or candidate's ideology. you take both of these things together. we see national wins, not necessarily tactical campaign by campaign maneuvers. >> lyanne, talk about what you're hearing from your sources on capitol hill about what this election night meant for republicans on the other side of the aisle and their agenda, they oppose biden, president biden. >> reporter: yeah, hallie. so, republican victory -- for sure. -- >> lyanne, i think it might be everybody. it's for sure me. something is wrong with your audio there. i'm going to hold off coming to you now for a second. i think it is going out over the airwaves here. we'll get that fixed. while we do, mark, let me toss
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it back to you here with the same question on republicans and what this means for them moving forward. >> you know, obviously you want to be able to have candidates who can kind of straddle those trump lines, appeal to people in the suburbs. but, hallie, more importantly, to be able to take advantage of a positive issue environment for you. and, you know, to me again, it really stands out, you end up looking at joe biden, president biden's stature right now where he's at 42% approval in the nbc poll that came out over the weekend. the exit poll in virginia showed him at 45%, which is pretty consistent, a 42% national approval would take you. that is a very positive political environment for the gop. now, sometimes you can have a positive political environment when you're republican and you can crash and burn. you can have the wrong candidate. you can actually have the wrong messages. what i think we've seen in both situations in virginia and in
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new jersey is republicans kind of having standard republicans who can both play and get the trump voters out, but also try to appeal to suburban voters as well. >> mark murray, monica alba, steve kornacki, thanks to all of you so much for your insights and reporting. steve, i know you're standing close to the camera if we get any news in the new jersey race. thank you. we want to talk more about the virginia race, barbara comstock. welcome back to the show. good afternoon to you. >> good to be with you. >> you and i have had a lot of conversations over the months about former donald trump, his role as the de facto leader of the republican party, the way that this race in virginia became frankly a referendum on the power of donald trump and the gop. glenn youngkin did not embrace donald trump, but he did embrace some of these culture war issues, right, in particular critical race theory which is not even taught in virginia.
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and that seemed to work for him obviously if you look at the results. >> well, i think what happened is a year ago democrats really misread what their mandate was. biden won because he wasn't trump, and people rejected him. people like me, anti-trump republicans, i didn't vote for trump, i voted for republicans down ballot. we saw that in arizona and georgia, for example, where we won the state legislatures, but then we lost at the top because of trump. so what glenn did is he decided he's going to be his own man and he is his own man and he ran his own race. and yesterday's voters were youngkin voters and he put together a coalition where he did even better than trump did with base voters and rural voters, and then he also improved a lot in the suburbs where the anti-trump republicans where trump was very toxic did warm to somebody like glenn who is very competent. while you're seeing incompetence in washington. he's a decent nice person.
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big contrast to donald trump. which is why he closed that gender gap to single digits instead of trump's yawning double digit gap. he's a uniter. you have to add to a party, not be a divider the way donald trump is. i think it's a very different model. and anyone wanting to look at this and think it means, you know, hey, it's safe to be a trump person in virginia, you're going to see a man to chase if she tries to run. democrats will be cheering her on. she'll lose a seat for republicans because she's an extreme trump in heels as she calls herself. she would have lost this race in double digits. >> if you're looking ahead, right, to your point here on what this could mean, for example, for the midterms next year, you know as well as i do, there is always a risk of over extrapolating lessons from a single election. that said, there are obviously take aways here. you have the head of the nrc saying in a cycle like this, no democrat is safe, right.
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do republicans run a risk hereof overplaying their hand, given the line that glenn youngkin had to walk here? >> oh, sure. listen, glenn understood that the top issue was the economy, which he is very well versed in as a successful businessman and competent. and then the education issue i think was a much bigger issue. it was that issue of kids being home for a year and a half, and the public schools really massively failing, particularly here in fairfax county where i live and my husband used to be a principal. they just failed kids outright. democrats being so closely associated with just the teachers unions and whatever they want instead of focusing on the kids and terry's huge gaff saying parents shouldn't get to decide things, i can tell you my husband as a principal, if he ever told -- tried to throw parents under the proverbial school bus, as michael steele said, he would have been, you know, ridden out, too, the way terry mcauliffe was.
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you always listen to parents and work with them. that disrespect for parents who suffered the past year and a half having to also themselves serve as teachers was a huge mistake, and glenn keyed in on that. and public safety -- >> i just have to say, though, congresswoman, just to be clear and make the point, terry mcauliffe said that comment was taken wildly out of context in the debate. >> he kept doubling down on it. yes, that's always something some people say, but he doubled down on it and as frank says, it's not what you say, it's what people heard. i can tell you the voters heard he was telling parents, get out of this business. and parents and their kids' education is a top priority, they're paying high taxes for pretty much everywhere you live in virginia. public safety is an underestimated issue. when you look at new york mayor and minneapolis race, people are very concerned about public safety. and glenn's support from all the
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sheriffs and police around the state and the defund the police effort has been a big failure. and i think you've heard eric adams today talk very centrist public safety type of discussions and i think people in new york, regardless whether you're democrat or republican, is going to feel much safer when he is in charge instead of de blasio who was obviously very unpopular. >> former congresswoman barbara comstock, again from virginia, knows that state well. thank you so much for being with us this afternoon. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we're going to talk more about what all this means for democrats and their agenda moving forward later in the show with a current member of congress. we are also waiting to hear from the occupant of this building, president biden is set to speak. we're going to bring his remarks live. plus breaking news from the pentagon. officials sharing more about what went wrong in that cobbled strike on isis terrorists that instead killed ten civilians. all of it as nbc news sits down
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so, just as we were coming on the air, the pentagon giving an update on that drone strike, remember back in august in kabul that mistakenly killed innocent afghan civilians? saying although the strike was, quote, regrettable, it was not illegal. watch. >> the investigation found no violation of law, including the law of war. did find execution errors confirmed by or combined with confirmation bias and communication break downs that regrettably led to civilian casualties. >> also today that exclusive
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interview with nbc news nightly anchor lester holt. joint chiefs of staff chair mark milley now on the record about the current chinese military threat against the u.s. let me bring in courtney kube. let's start with the drone strike. what else did you hear, what steps did it call for to make sure this doesn't happen again? >> reporter: so basically what we learned today, this drone strike, there was intelligence that said there may be a white corolla that isis-k may be trying to use it to attack imminently against the airport in kabul to attack u.s. service members. of course, this came right after the attack at abby gate that killed 13 service members and civilians. he pointed out this was a moment of very high tension. they were worried the men and women in the military, who were looking at this intelligence and looking at these drone feeds, believed that there was an attack against americans that could be coming at any moment.
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that led to what he said was a confirmation bias. they found a white toyota corolla, they believed it was at an isis-k safe house and they began following it for the next eight hours. because as they followed it, the activities that could have been benign and now we know, of course, were benign activities by this driver in this vehicle, at the time they used what he called a confirmation bias and they looked at the activity and said, well, those are suspicious. we'll keep following them. eight hours later they decided to take the drone strike. because of what happened here in the aftermath of this, jen saed is recommending three specific things. he said the u.s. needs to take -- introduce some new procedures that will help mitigate this confirmation bias from happening again. he also says there needs to be better communication. so with the strike cell in qatar and the people providing more intelligence that's feeding into the information, the strike cell is seeing, they need to communicate better in real-time. he also recommends there needs
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to be better analysis of the potential for innocence when you have a rapid or self-defense strike like this. in this case as you mentioned, hallie, there were ten civilians killed. seven of them were children. he said he's looking back at the time line of events. it was clear from drone footage that there was the presence of children two minutes before they actually took the strike that killed those individuals, hallie. >> it's a lot, and it's a lot that's been reviewed and a lot to sort of dissect and look ahead to on that front, courtney. there's a lot coming out from mark milley sitting down with lester holt, who got the details of china's hypersonic missile. this is general milley's at least first on-camera comment on this. >> reporter: he was the first to acknowledge it was a hypersonic test in august. other members of the administration would not talk about it. he came out and said, yes this is hypersonic and he's very concerned about it.
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lester really pressed him on that and said, look, how big of a threat does this really present to the united states and to allies. here's what he had to say. >> do we have the capability to match what we just saw from china? >> i won't go into anything classified as to what our specific capabilities are or what theirs are for that matter, but i would just say that that test that occurred was a very significant test. >> reporter: and what was really significant, despite the fact general milley doesn't want to talk about the classified portions of this test and why they think it was so significant, defense officials are making it clear that what's really concerning about it is the distance that this -- that it flew. it flew around the world. so we're talking a hypersonic here. it flies low. it flies extremely fast, five times the speed of sound. and in this case it went really, really far. these are already extremely difficult for u.s. missile defense systems to intercept, to shoot down. and one that flies this far,
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that is why they're so concerning. people have been describing it in some cases as a sputnik moment. the reason for that it shows how advanced china is in their hypersonics, their quest for hypersonics. we know they are trying to field one. the united states, on the other hand, we have also learned since that test back in august, is simply just a lot further behind on it. >> courtney kube, thanks so much, court. a breaking news from the nfl. green bay packers quarterback out of this weekend's game after testing positive for covid. but that is raising more questions than you might think. plus, we're talking about the member of house democratic leadership congressman dan kildee on the build back better agenda in just a minute. da in j.
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new details this afternoon in what could be the supreme court's most consequential ruling on gun rights. during oral arguments, making suggestions if you read the tea leaves, they were considering striking down a new york state law. that law would stop gun owners carrying a law outside their house. i want to bring in justice correspondent pete williams who has monitoring the arguments.
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pete, you're trying to unpack the decision the justices took, what this ruling could be, which way you think the justices are going, what it might mean for gun rights more nationally. >> there are two ways to look at this. remember, new york has no law allowing you to openly carry a gun. so the only way you can get a permit to carry a gun in public is with a concealed permit, and to get that you have to show some special need, something beyond just ordinary desire for self-defense. and i think the majority of the conservatives thought that that is going too far. that no other provision of the constitution do you have to get a license to, for example, use your right to confront somebody in court or to be secure in your home from unreasonable searches. so why would it be in the first amendment that you have to go through these additional hoops? it converts the constitutional right to a privilege, they think. you heard some justices talk about a second problem, which is nonetheless, may it still be permissible to restrict guns in sensitive places. and even some of the
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conservatives seem to be interested in that. justice amy coney barrett said, for example, can't we just say, for example, new year's eve, times square on new year's eve is a sensitive place. i think that's where the court is going to end up here, hallie. they'll say the new york law goes too far, but they'll also say states can restrict guns in public places, crowded places and so forth. now, as to the second question about what this means elsewhere, there are seven other states that have a law like new york. they're certainly doomed. and then based on what they say about the second amendment, and this will be -- the reason as you said at the beginning this is so important, the supreme court has never said what the second amendment means outside the home. so whatever they say about this, keep and bear arms part of the second amendment will have a lot to do with other kinds of gun restrictions that states want to impose. >> pete williams. any time line for when we may know more? presumably the end of the term, right? >> this is a complicated one with inter locking opinions and
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it's going to take several months. >> pete williams live for us in d.c. thank you. an interesting breaking story coming out of the nfl raising questions about vaccination claims. that is because green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers is out of the team's next game because of what the packers coach called covid-19 protocols. watch this. >> i'm not going to get into any of our coaches or players' vaccination status. all i can say is he's in the covid-19 protocols. we're not -- i mean, we don't say who tests positive or whatnot. >> that is coming after reports rogers did test positive. after he talked in august about, quote, being immunized which implies vaccination, but doesn't explicitly state that, i want to bring in mike florio, nbc sports talk. the confusion stems from this. rogers is being placed in vaccination protocol for unvaccinated players. he said publicly in august he was immunized, right?
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>> that's right. and the question posed to him in august was, are you vaccinated? he said i'm immunize. he said, i'm not going to judge any of my teammates who aren't vaccinated, which now makes sense given he wasn't vaccinated either. i think it's as simple as aaron rodgers did not want to be criticized for being unvaccinated, so he, for lack of a better term -- and this is the accurate term, lied about being vaccinated. perpetrated the notion he was vaccinated so no one would call him out for being unvaccinated. >> is it your reporting that -- listen, i want to be clear here, mike. you are entitled to say this. we don't know, right? i think the coaches asked about rogers' vaccination status and said that's a great question for aaron rodgers. we haven't heard from him about this yes. there is that question that remains here. is it your reporting the nfl knew either way accurately about his status? >> if he's truly unvaccinated and when the media conglomerate owned by the nfl is the one that reported that he's not vaccinated, safe to assume he's
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not vaccinated. and if he's not vaccinated, they know about it because every player gets handled according to his vaccination status. there are protocols that apply for events that happen in the public eye, like their preseason games when he wasn't in uniform and never was wearing a mask, implying that he's vaccinated. if he's not in uniform, if he's not playing and he's not vaccinated, he should have had a mask on for those three preseason games. but in the facility, he presumably is wearing a mask and now it's beginning to trickle out that players on the team knew he wasn't vaccinated because he's got a mask on in the facility. so the league has known about this. the question is how many times has he breached protocol? has he been fined? how many times has he been fined? had the packers been in any sort of scrutiny or consequence because of it? those are things i'm currently trying to find out from the league. but this is a very touchy area as it relates to confidentiality as we heard from coach lafleur. there are things they can't say even if it is obvious. >> i know you're all over this.
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we look for more of your reporting on nbc appreciate you being with us. in ten minutes or so we expect to hear from president biden after the democrats loss. they are locked at least now in a race too close to call in new jersey. president biden expected to talk about covid vaccines for kids in those remarks. we're going to bring them to you live. i want to bring in now congressman dan kildee, member of the house democratic leadership team, democrat from michigan and chief deputy whip and member of the caucus. thank you for being back on the show . >> thank you so much. >> lets to talk about here. let me start with some of the bigger political news of the day, right, which is about democrats and your path forward after what we've seen unfold over the last 24 hours in voting booths across virginia, right. the lessons learned. do you think that this is a signal to you and your party to move more towards the center?
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is that the message that you're getting from voters? >> well, i don't know that it means move toward the center. i think it means move forward and actually get this done. this is a big and bold agenda. even if we end up with a compromised version of it, i think anyone who looks at it just from a distance would say, this is a big step forward, whether it's cutting taxes, middle class earners or lowering the cost of prescription drugs, make sure people have access to child care, creating good union-paying jobs, all of that is a big step ahead. i think the real message is, act, move forward, come together, pass this legislation, and then do a better job frankly of explaining what's in it. last night was disappointing. it's not completely out of sync with historical trends certainly in virginia, it's consistent with historical trends. no two ways about it, it was a disappointment to us. it needs to be a wake up call and i think the message has to be get this legislation to the
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president's desk and then tell the country as clearly as we can what this will mean to them in real terms. >> so, are there no alarm bells going off for you from what you saw last night, specifically in virginia, that perhaps the party, at least as it relates to the president's agenda and this reconciliation bill and the spending package is moving too far left? >> i don't think -- i don't think it really is a matter of left or right. when you take the elements of the package it has broad public support. the frustration is not so many about ideology, but about our ability to actually enact this policy, enact this big investment, infrastructure. as i said, child care, health care, these are things that are kitchen table issues. they're not left, right or center. the question about left and right may have to do with how big and bold the package really is, but the root word of progressive is progress. and what i think the message is, let's make progress. let's not just talk about it from a philosophical or
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ideological standpoint. the message i heard was, democrats, sit down -- >> congressman, i'm sorry to interrupt you. i normally would never do this, but the vice-president is actually on capitol hit right now speaking live. we're going do listen in. i ask you to stay with me. >> we're going to keep fighting on that issue. we're going to keep fighting on that issue because that is an issue where we know there is too much at stake in terms of the democracy of our country. and so we are going to keep fighting to protect and uphold every american's ability and right to exercise their voice or their vote. thank you very much, guys. thank you. >> that, of course, was vice-president kamala harris making an appearance on capitol hill, stopping to take a question, at least one from reporters who have gathered to speak with her. congressman kildee, thank you for your patience again. >> no problem. >> really would only do that for two people, the president and the vice-president here. and i want to ask you about something the vice-president just said, but i just want you
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to finish your thought as it relates to what we were just talking about. the election in virginia, the nrcc, i should say, as you know i think put out a note this morning saying in a cycle like this, no democrat is safe. basically trying to frame this as a wake up call for democrats. >> well, we've known this all along. the nrcc is going to come after us. they are going to attack our agenda. they're going to come after our members. that's the way this process works. we were in the minority we'd obviously be doing the same thing. but that's politics. and you know, obviously that has a place in the conversation, but the focus for us has to really be on the specific elements of this agenda as they relate to the kitchen table. and the politics take care of themselves. the most eloquent message we send is one that lands at a kitchen table, not in a tweet, not, you know, through social media, but lands at a kitchen table when a family is actually trying to find out -- figure out how they're going to pay for day care for their kids so they can
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get back to work, how they're going to cover the cost of insulin for a child who might be diabetic. these are the real issues that families talk about. the sport politics is not that interesting to the people i represent. what's interesting to them is their future. that's why i say it's not left or right, it's forward that we have to focus our attention on. >> let me ask you about a couple other things, starting with what we just heard, at least in part from vice-president harris just in that moment that we dipped into here. before we were able to dip into her, she said she obviously supported terry mcauliffe in the virginia race. she supports people voting and that's what happened. she said you need to keep fighting for voting rights. this hour as we have been on the air, there is a setback in the senate with senate republicans voting to block consideration of the john lewis voting rights action. your reaction? >> the senate needs to change its rules so the majority rules. the idea of a filibuster is not in the constitution.
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and it shouldn't be used to block something as fundamental as the right to vote, particularly when it's legislation that honors the legacy of a person who gave his life for that right. so the notion that this somehow is an indication that there is not broad support for voting rights is wrong. it is an indication the senate has an arcane rule based on jim crow politics that tried to hold people down, and people, too many including some democrats, are holding onto that, that artifact of history when it is literally keeping people from being able to exercise their right to vote. that's not acceptable. >> speaking of the senate, one of the things we know and that we've learned today is that paid leave is now back in the framework for this larger social spending bill, the reconciliation package we've been talking about. but senator joe manchin says this is a challenge for him here. are you confident you can get him on board with this provision which is important to many democrats in your caucus? >> that's a good question.
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i think what senator manchin has to realize is the same thing that everybody over on this side of the building has realized sometime ago. there are going to be pieces of this bill that we would prefer were bigger and bolder. there may be elements of it that i don't like. this is compromise. this is the way we do business. and the sooner that everybody, particularly in the democratic caucus, comes to the conclusion that we captain let perfect be the enemy of the good, then we're going to be able to move forward. and i hope he takes that position. >> congressman dan kildee, thank you for being back on the show and for your patience as we juggled? live developments here on msnbc. thanks again, congressman. we're going to hear from president biden any minute. so stay with us. we're monitoring that. and as he talks about covid vaccination for kids, so are we. we're actually talking to the mom of this 8-year-old you are about to see, one of the first little kids to get vaxed now that the cdc has signed off. plus another exclusive
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to each his own. so, we are waiting any minute to hear from president biden talking about that vaccination push for kids. we are certainly going to bring that to you live as we expect him to be at those microphones really any minute. all of it as we mark a major covid milestone today with roughly 28 million kids between the ages of 5 to 11, now eligible for the pfizer vaccine, and 15 million doses allocated by the biden administration so far. we've got an early rush already on with some locations expecting appointments to be booked through thanksgiving by the end of the day today. with me now is kim whose 8-year-old daughter eunice was the first in line at children's national hospital right here in washington. good afternoon. thank you so much for joining us. >> you're welcome. i'm glad to be here. >> of course. there you are. i couldn't see you, but i could hear you talk to me, if you
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don't mind, why you wanted to get your daughter in today. you were one of the first in line. what was the set-up process like? how is your daughter doing? >> she's doing great. she's back at school. her doctor gave us a call about a week ago while we were waiting to have the cdc approving the children's vaccination. they asked me if she wanted to be the first one to get a vaccine at the hospital. and then we were so glad to hear because actually we expressed she can be part of the studies when they initiated, but they said she couldn't be. so when we had this opportunity to get the vaccine first, we were like, sure, why not? >> and we're looking at pictures now of eunice. i think it was a shirt that said "tough cookie" getting the vaccine. why was it important for you to have her be one of the first kids to get this shot? >> my daughter has transplant when she was 3 years old, so she's immunocompromised.
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so the best way to get her protected is the vaccine. and then we are all vaccinated, so we were just glad that she's able to get it today. >> i can imagine that she had a lot of anticipation around this day, around this moment. do you think your day to day life might look a little different when eunice gets fully vaccinated when this kicks in in a couple weeks? >> i think our worry is going to be still there, but i think she will have a better protections having the vaccines. i think we will still wear the mask, we'll follow the protocol. i'm confident the vaccine is going to help her if she gets unfortunately covid, she won't have the serious conditions or being hospitalized. so we're relieved that she got the vaccines. >> it's great to watch these images here of that process. can you talk to me? one of the things we know is that there are some parents who are in a different place than you who do feel some vaccine hesitancy according to polling
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numbers that have been out. what's your message here to other parents who may be on the fence about getting their young children vaccinated? >> i understand your concerns, and i think as a parent we want the best for your want the best for your kids. i do look at the consequences if my kids get covid. unfortunately, the consequences are much greater than the known that we are concerned about with this vaccine. i got the vaccine. she doesn't have history of having difficulties having other vaccines. i think eventually we have to take the steps. for most kids i hope that they can get -- you know, be in a safe environment. i think a vaccine will be one of the ways to get there sooner. >> eunice is doing well this afternoon? she's feeling good? >> she's back at school. >> she is? that's great.
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>> yeah. >> a quick process for her and for you. thank you for being with us and for sharing your story, among the first in line here at children's national in d.c. we are showing you on the left side of the screen of course that podium where we expect the hear from president biden really any minute. we anticipate that happening very soon as he, too, talks about this. the moment that we are in now, where millions of kids are eligible to get vaccinated. we will bring you the president's message live as soon as he steps up to those micro phones. first, we want to get to an nbc news exclusive. bill gates talking to nbc only about his push to get americans and industry leaders to join him in the fight against climate change. the multibillionaire right now is overseas in scotland at the global climate summit. and he tells us he hopes to curb greenhouse emissions. ann joins us live from scotland.
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great interview. what can you tell us about what you heard from him and what you can expect for more of your interview on nightly news? >> bill gates came here to glasgow the call for a green industrial revolution away from fossil fuels to slow and ultimately stop climate change. i asked him what our lives would look like 30 years from now if such a revolution took place. >> it means that when you tour a steel plant it won't look like it does today, the way that beef gets made, the whole agricultural sector will have been changed. the fuel that's going into an airplane we have to innovate in all of those sectors and get it done and deploy at scale so that, you know, there are days that the innovation goes well, there is days that the policies go well. we are getting closer to what we need, but we are not there yet. >> he said one way to get closer
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to that is to have the kind of incentives that are in the infrastructure and spending bills that are before congress. in fact, he called on congress to pass those two bills. he said if congress does not, there will be great disappointment. >> and ann, gates, is trying to position himself as a leader in the fight against climate change. talk about some of the other goals for his initiatives? >> i asked him whether this is something that rich men should be deciding the answer to? or is it something elected leaders should decide? he said that rich men should bring their resources to bear here because the issue is just so huge. i asked him about those reports that as msg chairman he sent inappropriate emails to a female employee and was asked to stop by company directors. he refused to answer that question. he said, i'm here to talk about
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climate. hallie? >> ann thompson, looking forward to seeing more of your interview with bill gates in that exclusive interview tonight on "nbc nightly news." we know in virginia the issue of education as we talked about played a factor in the gubernatorial election overnight, that glen youngkin has won. if you followed politics you knew that was key to all of this. why? because republicans have been complaining about whauns have been learn being in schools in many ways. in south lake an anti-crt candidate won a leadership role on the county school board. i want to bring in nbc's microscope hicksen but a on this. we know this issue of critical race theory, crt, was something that was important to south lake's school board. est here's one voter on what she thinks of crt and why it shouldn't be taught in schools. we should note, lot of miscommunication on what crt is
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and where it is actually taught. here she is. >> i don't believe in all of that. global in black lives matter. all lives matter. i put three kids through school here, there is no more racism here than anywhere else in the world and you will never get rid of racism. >> talk about south lake. >> it was theish knew the school birdie race that drew record-setting turnout to this right leaning affluent suburb. again, this is one of the first communities in the country where parents started speaking out against diversity training programs, history lessons focused on america's legacy of racism. books centered on lgbt issues, and misbranding all of those things under the umbrella of critical race theory. and as you saw there, voters in south lake and in suburban communities across the country are really animated by that issue. it is drawing them out to vote. >> how much do you see this issue affecting elections aren't the country?
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i think of what just happened in virginia here. i love in d.c., loudoun county. a lot of discussion around this. crt is not even taught in virginia high schools here. doesn't seem like it is a one-off, right? it seems like this is something we might be talking about again come the mid terms, no? >> outside of virginia last night there were dozens of school board races just like this one in south lake that drew huge turnout where candidates in these not -- formerly non-partisan school board races ran on explicitly. >> yeah. >> partisan campaigns tied to national issues, tied to this critical race theory bite. and those races drew huge turnout n. some cases those candidates lost, but republicans certainly see this as an issue that is animating those voters in their base. and i think you can expect the hear more about this all through next year. >> mike doing great reporting there on south lake with our team at nbc news.
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