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biden's global leadership is in the spotlight in europe. and later, we're following an historic day at the supreme court where justices today heard arguments over -- the entire hearing broadcast live. welcome to "meet the press daily". i'm gairt headache. biden huddled behind closed doors warning democrats could make her break his presidency. it's looking like he might be right. with less than 24 hours until election day, democrats are bracing for a potential upset in the virginia governor's race. democrats won in the last governor's race by nine points. what happens in virginia doesn't typically stay in virginia.
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the governor's race has been a good indicator for the party in power. when democrats do well in virginia, they've historically done well nationally in the following year's midterms. when they've struggled in virginia, they've struggled nationally. right now they are struggling everywhere. president biden's approval ratings have fallen to 42% in our new poll. that's 12 points under water. it is a big decline from where it was a few months ago. simply put, the public is souring on the promise of the biden presidency. fewer than 3 in 10 adults give him good marks in his ability to unite the country. that's fallen 12 points. same for voters who see him as experienced to handle the presidency. that's fallen by ten points. the public is less confident in his ability to handle a crisis. to put things in perspective for biden, his overall favorable ratings are well under water and just about the same as donald trump's right now. yes, really. it is a remarkable stat considering biden ran his
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campaign on protecting democracy from what he said was the existential threat of trump. but right now the country as a whole doesn't view either of them very favorably. there is no sugar coating it for democrats. it is ugly out there. joiningtous break it down now, kelly o'donnell is in scotland after the first full day of the u.n. climate summit there. mark murray is breaking down the latest poll numbers for us. heidi heidi. with the president's agenda stalled at home and numbers under water, what's the white house feeling on this situation that the president is staring at right now? he said he doesn't worry about polls. his white house does not have that luxury. >> that is true. the president is trying to focus on specifics he can try to accomplish here to project
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confidence in what he is doing on the world stage. knowing that that may be able to have an impact at home. not in the immediate 24 hours, but over time. and trying to deliver on the promises he made as a candidate. the president saying that polls go up and go down. he was asked specifically about some of the polling as reflected in the numbers you ran through that are, in fact, very damaging to the president, and challenging for his immediate political future. a snapshot in time, but certainly a dire and dismal picture that many americans were questioned and this poll suggests about his performance so far, and the president says he has not -- he is not running on his poll numbers. he is here -- part of that is delivering on some of the promises that are in the framework that is still sort of cooking back in washington. that the president says he hopes will be passed by the end of the week with his infrastructure and as he describes it, the build back better plan and here in
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scotland and just coming from italy where he had the g-20, there have been a number of achievable things he has been able to do. making some -- significant steps forward with the eu on some economic things. the global minimum tax. pulling back on some of the tariffs that have an impact on the home economy. taking steps on the supply chain. those are things that are nitty-gritty in the economy. international in importance, and the climate discussion is still going. so the president is sort of living in two worlds right now. the domestic political environment and the world stage. and trying to focus on what's in front of him here while certainly the white house and the staff who remain back in the u.s. is dealing with that more dire picture of domestic politics back home. garrett? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. so heidi, the president could return home later in this week with deliverables from this climate summit.
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we could see congress vote on his two big bills later this week. none of that is going to happen in time to help terry mcauliffe. the polling now shows glen youngkin with all the momentum in virginia. what are you hearing from the voters you're talking to in virginia beach? >> i came here to virginia beach because it is a quintessential swing area. biden won this by several points. before that trump won by several points. bottom line, if youngkin is going to win, this is where we're going to feel it. and being here is hard not to feel the cross, the heavy cross winds that are being faced by terry mcauliffe. now, we spoke with a number of voters at a couple of different diners. i'm outside anchor alley where youngkin had a breakfast event earlier. and to a person, garrett, all these voters are republicans and there were much more of them willing to talk than the democrats. wanted to talk about the issue of education. wanted to talk about their belief that this critical race theory notion is being taught in schools and that they're very
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upset about it. take a listen to the couple we talked to earlier today. >> they're trying to teach our children that they should feel bad about it. you are privileged. you have an upper leg. you are better. you think you're better, and you should feel something else. >> that's giving them the wrong direction. >> that's splitting everything. >> is there any possibility that that is not happening in schools and you're just being told that it is? >> well, i'm not at school with them. i'm not there daily. and i don't know what the kids are coming home and telling their parents. you know? i can't really speak for that. i believe that it's happening. let's put it that way. >> garrett, democrats are also saying this is all just one big made up dog whistle. and when i pressed them for individuals, none of them was able to tell me specifically what the curriculum is being taught that is critical race theory. there was one woman who said her
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grandchild came hole and asked her if she was bad because she was white. that was the only sense of evidence, and that's not evidence of a curriculum being taught, because we don't know what prompted that. garrett, i covered the 2017 gubernatorial election, and that is was really marked by such a fervor and enthusiasm on the left of suburban women waiting in long lines out in the rain to vote for democrats in order to cast a referendum vote against president trump, and here there really is all about -- it really is all about the enthusiasm but of republicans, and democrats who are concerned about some of their base groups just not turning out. garrett? >> yeah. i remember the same thing being out in the rain in fairfax county, watching folks line up to cast their first opportunity to vote against donald trump. jeff, to me the trump factor in this is fascinating, because the youngkin message about education is either a dog whistle or an effective message we'll see tomorrow night when the polls
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close. for terry mcauliffe, he's tried hard to make youngkin an extension of donald trump. a republican source of mine in virginia said that's not going to work. democrats in virginia are exhausted by fighting trump because they've been on the front lines of it since 2017. how do you think the mcauliffe youngkin trump connecting strategy is playing in that state? >> well, keep in mind that youngkin has not forsaken trump politics. he's wrapped them up in his fleece vest and his khakis, as terry mcauliffe is fond of saying. and it's a legitimate issue. what is the connection here? what can virginians expect? one wonders if part of the problem with that message for democrats is the messenger. anyone who knows terry mcauliffe knows he has all the subtlety of a carnival barker, and maybe the high december ball rants just
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fall on deaf ears. that said, in virginia a very different virginia than the one in which republicans won last, a statewide office in 2009 is a place in which there are structural advantages for democrats. and these are advantages on which democrats now hang their hopes. that there are more voters who identify as democrats. that the suburbs are more reliably, if not reflexively democratic. we have 45 days of uninterrupted, unrestricted early voting. the numbers out of those democratic jurisdictions have been impressive. however, one cannot say with any certainty whether those are all or disproportionately democratic
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votes. >> so, mark, this is a state that biden won by ten. the governor's race was not ultimately close in 2017. the fact that we are talking about this race at all a day before the polls close, how concerning should it be for democrats nationally and those in the old dominion especially? there are two forces at play. >> one is the energy, that republicans seem to be -- have all the energy behind them, our own national nbc news poll shows nationally, not just in virginia, republicans have an 11-point interest and enthusiasm advantage going into the 2022 midterm. the energy is on the republican side. the math is on the democrat's side and how those two forces play out, the mcauliffe campaign is banking on that there are 450,000 more biden voters in virginia than trump voters. and they don't necessarily believe there are a lot of
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biden, glen youngkin voters out there. they have to turn people out. it's a game on can you knock on enough doors to be able to get those folks out? but right now if they end up losing, you have to look back that energy just nine months into the biden presidency. a year after the 2020 election. >> jeff, to that point, what do you make of how the mcauliffe campaign has used president biden and used their big surrogates? we didn't see joe biden go to new richmond or or virginia beach or swingier parts of the state. we saw him across the potomac. >> it's entirely possible mcauliffe could have run from joe biden. he didn't. and, of course, they used him in the bluest areas of the state. but you know, we've had one boldfaced name after another from virginia. barack obama. stacey abrams. the list goes on.
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i don't know that it's possible in contemporary politics even in a upper south mid atlantic state to put up with anything but increasingly nationalized state politics. to youngkin's credit, he has tried to taylor this to virginia, and a lot of this has a cultural bent. what's going on in the schools? this notion of critical race theory. that somehow the public schools are hot beds of transgender depravity. the situation in loudoun county just outside of d.c. which has been at full boil and has really captured the imagination, particularly of conservative media. >> mark, in the time we've got left, you frame this as looking a lot like 2014 where mark warner scraped by with a win by less than a point. if this is a lot like 2014 and
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mcauliffe narrowly wins this race, what should democrats take away? is there anything they can do to improve their chances going into the midterms? >> garrett, one they can say a win is a win. and actually, who is in control of governor's mansions and an attorney general, lieutenant governor all matters in our politics. >> as we've seen. >> who controls the house of delegates. who wins is who ends up winning, but also if you're a democratic strategist, the biden white house, you want the poll that came out to be rock bottom. that's the absolute low point. get beyond what's playing out on capitol hill. really smart democrats are telling me this reconciliation babysit is happening, whether it's a communication error or not, is that the process of trying to throw so much into it makes it almost impossible to communicate. if you're a democrat, you want to end this thing now to basically start talking about the message you want to communicate into the 2022 midterms? >> it's easy to see how this gets worse for democrats or
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potentially better. mcauliffe wins. they start passing things out of the house. the gears are turning. we have to leave it there for you. thank you all. be sure to turn into our meet the press election night special tomorrow night starting at 9:00 p.m. eastern. streaming on nbc news now. coming up, much more ahead on the road ahead for democrats. i'll speak with one top house democrat close to leadership about the state of the biden agenda on capitol hill and beyond. and later, new york city's vaccine mandate for city workers is now in effect. what this could mean for safety and sanitation around the city as workers are placed on unpaid leave until they get the jab. you're watching "meet the press daily". omized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ if you're washing with the bargain brand, even when your clothes look clean,
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welcome back. as president biden talks climate and as contracts sweat it out in virginia congress is still hard at work in washington finalizing a major piece of president
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biden's domestic agenda. sources say negotiations on the reconciliation package will extend beyond tomorrow as prescription drug pricing and imdwrags among other programs are being evaluated for inclusion. they've still not gotten the formal thumbs up from joe manchin. democrats are hopeful they'll get a win on the issues, but they have not given a firm indication of when that win could come. a lot of democrats are looking at the president's sinking poll numbers now and wanting that win yesterday. joining me now is democratic congresswoman from michigan debbie dingell. congresswoman, give me a sense of the holdup on this bill. what's standing between the house and a vote on either the build back better bill or the infrastructure bill tonight? >> well, first of all, let's just be honest. and there's a reality of writing legislative language. discussions have been going on all weekend. it is going to take time for that language to be finished, and then many members have expressed wanting 72 hours to look at the language.
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i am hopeful. i think most are hopeful we will be able to do something by the end of the week. but i think it's more important to do it right. i do believe the time is here to land this plane, and i'm -- i think we will land the plane this week. >> every member i talk to tells me there's some other issue they're interested in that they want to see included. how open do you think negotiations still are on prescription drugs or immigration or paid family leave? like, how finalized are we looking at it in terms of a framework becoming a bill? >> you know, here's the way. the president laid out his framework. there are other issues we all care deeply about. when these bills are passed, we'll get up the next day and start working. a lot of them and quite frankly, some of the discussions like on paid family leave have probably given it for impetus. the time is now. we've discussed. it's important that everybody have input. it's important, but we've reached agreement under tremendous number of things. we are going to be making major
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changes in everything from fixing our roads and bridges, which, by the way, equal third world countries. we're going to get the led out of pipes. we're going to build chargers and i would like to say i'm sick and tired of everybody in the media saying we haven't gotten stuff done on global climate when i stood with the president and made an historic announcement on august that reduces emission by 60% from automobiles. there's a lot of things being. we've accomplished a lot. we're going to get a lot done and we've got to start talking about what we're getting done. . >> look, if you get the multitrillion dollar package across the finish line, there is a lot of doing in that package. i think your concerns might be addressed if and when the president's pen hits those two bills. i'm really interested in what has changed over the weekend here in terms of progressive support for a vote this week. we left friday, the progressives
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were saying we want to say and see a signal from the two senators who have been holding audiotape lot of this process. and that signal didn't come, but there was a long meeting yesterday. i know there was a meeting late last week before sinema left. do you know anything about how this has become unstuck among progressives? y'all seem ready to go. >> i think -- i hate these labels. i'm a member of -- >> i know you do. >> the progressive caucus specifically is an actual block of votes. right. >> sn how did things become unstock among that block? >> i think there has been a great deal of concern that if one bill went, would the other bill get considered? i think the president was clear when he spoke to the caucus on thursday that we were going to get both. he has had numerous conversations. has told people he's going to deliver both of these. there have been many one and one conversations by many members with senators. and the time has come to get this done.
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we need to make sure we're getting both of these bills done. there's tremendous things in it. people have had more confidence in speaking to people. joe manchin is never going to publicly give his word -- anybody who knows joe manchin knows that's not going to happen. >> but what changed between friday and today? if we knew that about joe manchin -- >> well, i think what you -- joe manchin was never going to do 3.5. it wasn't clear where he was on 1.75. he signed the piece of paper, but i think there's been enough indications that the senate understands as much as the house does, we've got to get this done for the american people. president biden campaigned on this. there are so many things we need to get in this so we get our economy back on the road again, and that people are finding that trust between each other that you know what? congress means coming together. getting it done. and our job is to get it done, and it's time to get it done now. >> congresswoman, you've always
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had a pretty keen sense i think of how democrats communicate and how you think they should communicate. our poll has 71% of people thinking the country is on the wrong track rather than the right direction in this country. how do you explain a number that bad and what should democrats do to address it? >> first, you know me and polls. i predicted donald trump would win when you all said i was crazy. >> i remember. i didn't say you were crazy. >> a lot of your colleagues did. people are tired of the chaos. it's a reflection of people's fatigue, and that when they actually see us start to get stuff done -- most people if you look at your poll, i said, people don't even know what's in the build back better. we've got to talk about it. we've got to bring the supply chain back to the country. there are a lot of things supply chain resiliency is in the bill. that's going to help lower prices, the inflation costs. there's a lot of things that when women can get back to work
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any person anywhere except its own state officials. the only conceivable reason for doing so was to evade federal court review under ex parte young. >> meanwhile texas solicitor general argued federal courts were not the right venue to argue the case in the first place. >> an injunction against sb-8 the law itself, they can't receive that because federal courts don't issue injunctions against laws but against officials enforcing laws. no texas executive official enforces sb-8 either, and so no texas executive official may be enjoined. >> the justice department meanwhile is arguing that the texas law violates a woman's constitutional right to an abortion. the court's not expected to issue a decision on either case until the spring. until then texas law will remain in effect. the court is also scheduled to take up a challenge to the landmark roe v. wade case in december. we'll break down today's arguments and their consequences in just a moment.
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welcome back. you're about to be looking live at the supreme court after justices heard arguments challenging the restrictive new abortion law. arguments we all heard as they happened. there she is. joining me now is pete williams who covers the supreme court and the justice department for nbc news. also with me the reporter for the new york times and nbc news contributor, and 'wls have a former new york state and federal prosecutor. she's now an nbc news analyst. pete, let's start with the argument that this law would lead to a deluge of lawsuits just as sotomayor asked a question about this, and we can play it thanks to the new rules here. >> you believe that the way this sb-8 is structured that what the
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chilling effect is the very multiplicity of lawsuits that are threatened against you? >> yes, your honor. that's exactly right. it is the fact -- there's a combination of various ways that this state has created special roles, applicable only to sb-8 to make state courts a tool that can be used to nullify constitutional rights that have been recognized by this court. >> so much of this seemed to be about the ways in which this law could be applied elsewhere. the structure of it. i think for people who were tuning in and hearing the supreme court arguments for the first time, myself among them, dealing with the ways this could be applied elsewhere, walk me through what we heard there and what we understand from the argument? >> i'd say bottom line this was not a good day for texas. it seemed to me a majority of the justices including some of the conservatives, are willing to say that a lawsuit filed by
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abortion providers in texas and federal court can go ahead. i'm not sure they'll say the same thing about the federal case, but for abortion providers in texas, either one will do the job for them. the chilling effect you're hearing from justice sotomayor is the argument made by mark representing the center for constitutional rights on behalf of the abortion providers. they say the prospect of getting sued and having to fork over $10,000 and being repeatedly sued in every county in texas is just too daunting. that's the chilling effect, and that's what she said is different. but the point you made about some of the justices being concerned that other states could replicate this to try to limit other constitutional rights, one of the most powerful friend of court briefs in this case was filed by a gun rights supporters in texas who said boy, you know, they cited with the abortion providers. and this is a point that brett kavanaugh picked up on saying other state could say okay, you
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can see for a million dollars anybody that has an ar-15. i think the supreme court is simply not going to buy the structure that texas has tried to come up with here cleverly to try to evade court challenge. >> katie, is this structure of the texas law too cute by half here at the end of the day? so much of the texas law was designed to take the owness off of texas officials and spread out responsibility for enforcement. is that where texas will get into trouble? >> that seemed to be the feeling of justices. everybody from brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett to sotomayor. they were saying listen, this really just doesn't work. what it does is allows any state to come up with a law, to thwart constitutional rights. that state just doesn't like, and especially justices like kavanaugh could see how it could be used to restrict access to services or goods or activities that the state has decided is
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not appropriate. that is probably the best hope that people who support the idea of abortion who want access to abortion in the state of texas have in thwarting this law. >> there was another moment that stuck out where clarence thomas asked stone about what would be considered an injury under sb-8. this is important. listen to this. >> what would that injury be in this under sb-8, if it's an injury, in fact? >> one example would be a injure suffered in the tort of outrage where an individual becomes aware of an abortion and suffers the same emotional harm that would ground an article 3 injury for purposes of texas law. >> that seemed like sort of a weak argument, did it not? how would you go about proving this kind of extreme moral or mike lodge -- psychological harm to yourself as a third party? >> it was weak, and it was al shocking, because what they were exploring was theoretically,
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well, who could come to federal court? because texas's position throughout was that the abortion providers could not bring the suit they brought against state vujs and against state clerks in federal court. and that also the united states could not sue texas in federal court as it has. and this was a kind of strange digression into what would count as an injury which is generally a requirement to have standing to be able to bring a case. and it didn't really get much pickup. it didn't get any momentum for texas. and i agree with pete that texas was really on its back foot, particularly by the time we got to the second argument. the argument in the case that the united states had an initiated. >> yeah. katie, let's talk about that a little bit. the justice department's argument here. how is this different from what we heard this morning? >> you know, the -- >> we may have lost katie. i'll give the question to pete instead. pete, the justice department's argument is totally different
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here. >> well, it's similar in the sense that they both say we ought to be -- people ought to be able to file these lawsuits. there are two sort of sticking points here. one is for the federal government, when you are suing a state, does it have to meet some higher threshold? i think there may be problems. the second problem for both lawsuits, texas is right. texas officials don't do anything to enforce this law. who do you sue? and what the plaintiffs in the cases have said is okay, we'll sue state court judges and state court clerks who are the ones that have to do something to allow the lawsuits to go forward. it did seem to me that a majority of the court's not going to go there on judges but they may be willing to go there on clerks because of previous supreme court decisions that suggest that you can't sue state court judges. now, the plaintiffs are both saying we need to be creative here, because this is a sneaky texas law. so let's think outside the box here a little bit. >> for all of those new supreme court watchers today, we all heard about ex parte young a lot.
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can you explain that, please? >> well, ex parte young basically says that if a state -- this is the whole thing about you don't enjoin a law. you enjoin state officials -- >> who are enforcing. >> normally speaking the federal government can't enjoin state court officials. but what ex parte young says is well, if they're doing something that's against the law, then the legal fiction is they're not carrying out an official responsibility, so yes, you can sue them. it seems to say you can't sue judges. the question is is there wiggle room. i should point out one other thing. i thought one of the most interesting things in the argument was when the justices said what are you asking us to do here? i'm not exactly sure what happens if -- it's likely the supreme court is going to say the abortion provider lawsuit can go forward. does that mean sb-8 is put on hold? and you heard them say from the center for constitutional
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rights, i'm not sure we have that request but let me make it now. >> i'm curious what your take is on the fact that we all heard this live today, and whether the way in which the court is allowing people to see how its work gets done might change anything about the process or in your mind, how we laymen all understand it. >> you know, it's interesting. this really was unprecedented. i had missed hearing supreme court arguments. it used to be you had to go down to d.c., stand in line and be physically present to hear an argument. and there had always been a concern that if you opened up the courtroom, it might make the justices conduct themselves differently to really ham it up for the camera, if you will. i did not see that at all, or in this case, just for the audio, of course. what i saw was very serious supreme court argument that was incredibly beneficial to the public, because while these were cases ultimately about the right to have an abortion in texas and
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how that constitutional right has been curtailed, we barely ever heard about abortion. i think the words roe v. wade for hardly spoken. it was a massive education, i think, to see that that's really not what's at stake here. you know, the both of the petitioners had gone in alongside the trends of the court with the argument that this isn't just about abortion. no matter what you think about abortion, it's really destabilizing to the country and an affront to the supreme court's authority if states can create these kinds of regimes that insulate an unconstitutional law from judicial review, and we really got to see over the course of two hours that it was really all about the details of that scheme that they had created which could be air lifted and imposed onto another area of constitutional rights. >> i thought it was fascinating even if i have to admit i
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professor, i'm curious. what do you think would be a successful summit here for the world and for the united states when the president lands back in the u.s. later this week? >> well, you know, countries have gathered in glasgow to try to make serious progress on the climate challenge. we are behind on cutting carbon pollution. countries around the world need to step up and put forward plans that commit to limiting warming to 1.5 degrees. are we going to see countries cooperating and putting forward their own national plans for how they're going to do it? i think that's what everybody is looking for out of this summit. >> how much does it undercut the possible success of this summit that china is just not participating? >> well, i think that's quite disappointing and president biden certainly commented on that in recent days. you know, china is currently the number one emitter globally. the united states is of course the largest emitter historically and still the number two in the world in terms of carbon
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pollution. both of the countries are critical. and during the obama administration, they were able to do pretty good bilateral negotiations between china and the united states. so we've got to hopefully see that again start to develop even if it doesn't happen at this particular it doesn't happen at this particular summit. >> obviously the president was disappointed to not have his climate legislation signed into law by the time he got to this conference. as you look at what's in the framework now, what might be the legislation that ultimately gets to his desk here on climate, are you satisfied at what you see potentially becoming law, the menu of tax credits and so forth that have survived this long process to maybe be in the final bill? >> well, i think that the climate movement has worked very hard to get lawmakers in congress and the biden administration to act boldly on the climate crisis. it's clear that americans understand that the climate crisis is happening now.
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there were 22 weather disasters last year that cost the country half a trillion dollars. these investments from congress are sorely needed and very popular. the biggest climate investment we'll ever have seen, and insufficient to tackle the crisis. so this is going to be a really critical down payment on the taking on the crisis and we'll need to continue to see congress and the white house press on climate action. >> the paris climate accords in 2015, we have not been holding up our end of the bargain there. i find myself feeling a little cynical as we report on this sort of thing, because there's big commitments made and the follow-through tends to lack. what should we be looking for to make glasgow feel like an accomplishment, not almost like a dirty word, the paris climate accords, those things we didn't do? >> as much as the president has not managed to get the build back better act onto his desk yet, he's very close. last week he went to congress
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and said, here's the framework for moving forward. and thankfully the congressional progressive caucus has taken that up and said, you know what, if we can get agreement from the senate we're willing to move forward on this this week. so we're really right on the precipice right now of very transformative climate investments. climate is in some ways the biggest part of the build back better act, and that's amazing, because it didn't start out that way. it's clear that both congress and the white house understand the climate crisis and know they have to act on it. i think that is going to influence the world stage at glasgow and hopefully we'll see countries really stepping up to start taking on this crisis at the scale that's necessary. >> to that end, how can the united states, how can our allies at this conference put pressure on a russia or a china to say, hey, this is your problem too? >> well, the way that i think about this is actually a lot to do with technology and innovation. if the united states investment in these new telling like wind
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and solar and batteries, they're going to become cheaper. that's also going to create millions of good-paying jobs in the united states through all these manufacturing industries. as those technologies get cheaper and the united states becomes a global leader in manufacturing, those technologies can be sold to countries around the world, shared with countries around the world. and that will help everybody have the affordable technology that we need to really cut carbon pollution. so yes, international negotiations are really important. but domestic action that starts to invest in bringing down the cost of clean energy technology is absolutely critical. that's what congress and the white house have worked hard to try to deliver through president biden's build back better act. >> professor lee stokes, thank you, we'll be watching the rest of it closely. coming up, thousands of unvaccinated essential workers facing unpaid leave in new york. you're watching "meet the press daily." 7 daily.
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welcome back. new york city's vaccine mandate is officially in effect for the entire new york city workforce. more than 22,000 employees are still unvaccinated. the mayor says 9,000 of them are on unpaid leave starting today. and the city's first responders are some of the least vaccinated departments. one fifth of the entire fdny still hasn't gotten at least one shot by the city's friday
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deadline. now union heads are sounding the alarm about what staffing shortages could mean for quickly putting out fires or for saving lives. joining me now with the latest on the ground in new york city is nbc's kathy park. kathy, we have 20,000 unvaccinated, 9,000 not showing up for work today. what's the effect on staffing, firehouses, trash collection, which can very quickly become a problem in the city? >> reporter: hey, garrett, yeah, so union leaders for days now have been warning of the potential staffing crisis come monday when this vaccine mandate officially takes hold. but the mayor has assured new yorkers that things are moving ahead without any sort of issues. they've always had contingencies in place, so they had asked for mandatory overtime and extra shifts to fill in any sort of gaps. this morning he said there aren't any problems that they're noticing. he also touted the vaccination numbers. over the weekend thousands of more people got that first dose
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of the vaccine. and across the board, across the agencies, we saw the vaccination numbers go up. but as you mentioned, there is certainly resistance. some holdouts, especially among first responders, specifically among firefighters. and they are continuing to push back. take a listen. >> the haphazard way this was thrown together in a nine-day deadline. members are being told if they get vaccinated they can just show up at the door of the firehouse at 9:00 in the morning and they'll be permitted to work if they have a vaccination card. this is not a way to run a public service, a lifesaving public service, in such a haphazard way. >> reporter: and garrett, we should point out that every since friday's 5:00 p.m. deadline, more than 2,000 firefighters have called in sick. and the fdny commissioner has blasted some firefighters who apparently called in sick out of protest. but union leaders have said,
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look, you know, a lot of them got their covid-19 vaccine and the aftereffects are flu-like symptoms so they were legitimately sick. there's still a lot of back and forth and a lot of resistance among firefighters, garrett. >> kathy park, thank you. and thank you for being with us this hour. chuck will be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." tune in to our "meet the press" election night special tomorrow night hosted by chuck and kristen welker at 9:00 eastern streaming on nbc news now. msnbc coverage conditions with chris jansing live in virginia right now. good to be with you. i'm chris jansing. hello on an extraordinarily busy day of news, from abortion rights at the supreme court to president biden at a climate summit in scotland. but we begin here at the beautiful boat house in richmond, virginia, where we've come today because it's the eve of a cliffhanger election and the outcome here

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