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hans nichols, thank you, we appreciate it. >> this week is crucial for the president and his party. he's landing in scotland for the climate change summit. we have got the election and virginia and other places tomorrow and hopes from democrats that they can get this legislation, two parts done. >> thank you for all getting up with us, "way too early," "morning joe" starts right now. good morning, welcome to "morning joe," it's monday, november 1st, look at that beautiful shot. >> how was your halloween. >> little cat made a huge debut in the neighborhood. >> he was a big hit. >> handing out candy. >> a lot of adorable children. with us, speaking of, elise
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jordan is absolutely an adult. elise jordan, host of msnbc's "politics nation" reverend al sharpton and jonathan lemire. that's where i was going with that. >> elise, how was halloween at your place? >> mary clyde was a little lamb and she takes it all in. not quite sure sanity in the streets, we went in parts and trick or treating with friends. >> jonathan lemire, what did you go as? houston astros? >> i did see someone last night. a gutsy move for him. my kids went as mario character
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and the youngest went as yoshi. the last minute costume was not cool enough. we did a hybrid at the last minute. he decided to be a baseball player. >> good flexibility there. >> when i doubt, that's what you do. >> rev, do you have any story for us? >> my daughters are grown but my one grandson sent me picture as why he's not at home watching "politics nation." i texted back to his mother that i am waiting on tuesday in new jersey to see if i will gate trick or treat. >>. >> well done. >> you may rev, you may get a big bag of rocks. if the trend line continues to go they're looking right now,
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mika. >> we are following a number of developing stories this morning. president biden is on his way to scotland for united nation on climate change. we'll get a live report on location for what's ahead this morning. what he accomplished at the g-20 over the weekend and the work that's still to come to pass his agenda back home. plus, big day in virginia, tomorrow is election day in virginia. we'll have the latest on that neck and neck gubernatorial race and what it means. we'll hear from actor alec baldwin since the first time of the deadly shooting on his film "rust," what he's saying about the cinematographer who died and there is new reporting on john eastman. the lawyer who advised president trump and his inner circle about how to go about overturning the 2020 election.
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eastman's actions around january 6th to reveal his hands are growing dirtier by the day. we'll have the very latest on that. and it's a big week in the fight against covid as the cdc will meet tomorrow on pfizer's vaccines for younger children as more reports of covid case and one in the white house comes out. overall numbers are going down. we'll begin with the enforcement of new york city's municipal worker vaccine mandates. it begins today. while the number of city workers receiving their shots have gone up. fdny says more than 2,000 new york city firefighters have taken sick days over the past week. in a statement over the weekend, fire commissioner daniel nygral wrote, irresponsible, bogus sick lever by some of our members
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creating a danger for our firefighters. hundreds of guys are feeling flu-like symptoms because that's what the shots does to people. yikes. >> rev, let's talk about this for a second. you got a group of people who supposed to be serving citizens of new york city, who don't want to do what they want to do to keep themselves safe. citizens of new york city say and then they make matter worse by doing a sick out which of course puts new yorkers in a graver danger all because they won't take a vaccine that's supposed to keep them and new
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yorkers safe. this is so irresponsible. i wonder what in the world the union leaders are doing here. they got 80% of their membership who are being punished because of anti-vaxers that make a small percentage of their membership. you can protest something and you can disagree. i have done it all my life. when you choose a line of work, you have to accept what comes along with it. you can't say that i am in public service but i careless about endangering and possibly infecting the public and the double down on that to say not only am i going to demand the right to put the public at risk even though i am in the business
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of protecting them. i am going to play sick and double the exposure that the public may have if in case there is a crime or a fire or whatever it may be. no one made them become a public servant, they chose that. they ought to live up to that. >> joining us outside, one fire house in new york city is stephanie gosk, what do police and fire department and leaders expect to happen today? >> reporter: well, mika, let me address what the reverend was saying. you have an early morning press conference here in manhattan to discuss this and talk about what responsibility and to talk about the accusations and purposely having sick outs. they are maintaining as you said it's a results of going into
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these vaccines and feeling the after effects. today is the deadline, it's not just the fda, why? it's every workers in the city have to get a shot. the city now says more than 91% of city workers had been vaccinated which is you know a high number for any population of people right now when it comes to covid. it does mean more than 22,000 city workers that are not coming to work today. they're not getting paid today. they are among the -- you have thousands of police officers, 8,000 or so police officers, you had sanitation workers that have been delayed or getting their garbage picked up. you know some of these jobs will be easy to fill or relatively
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easy to fill. others are not going to be. filling a police officer is not going to be easy. you have a number of police officers retired because of this mandate. in the coming weeks, all eyes will be on response times whether it's a fire or merge my call police officers, crime is up in the city to see if they can get to the city on time. it's a tenuous time in the city, the mayor is standing firm and not stepping down among the pressure that he's been feeling in recent days and weeks. >> wow, nbc's stephanie gosk, thank you very much from that update from the streets of new york city. >> you look at the number in new york city, i was going through the number this morning because
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i saw the breaking news early this morning that we are over 5 million deaths from worldwide, from covid, over 5 million deaths for a virus that many people support trump and around donald trump called a hoax. that's a hoax with a 5 million deaths. let's go to our jonathan lemire. you look at the number in new york and the infections and the number of deaths. they are extraordinary low. the number of deaths are extraordinary low compares to texas, florida, michigan and other states. you can see by going state by state, you can see what states are vaccinated their population and what states are not vaccinating their population. not always by the number of new
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infections but certainly by the number of deaths. new york city, man, for a city its size and the city that took it on the chin first, they're doing extraordinary well and in part because of these mandates, the people that's supposed to serve the public betraying the people of new york city. >> yeah, i do like to keep one eye on manchin at all time even in my current role. we all remember those of us who were here last spring, march and april, the terrible toll that suffered by so many. so many responders performed then and now and responding to those who had fallen ill which is why it's so disheartening that this sick-out is happening now and so many are not doing what's right. deblasio has it is credit here insisting that workers to get
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it. you have to get vaccinated, you can no longer opt it out. there are concerns though. there could be some work slow down or issues of city services. no fire house have closed yet. there are concerns about trash pile-ups and sanitation is a big issue. we have to see what happens next. tomorrow there is election hearing in new york city. he has over the weekend urged again all municipal workers to get vaccinated but he has not committed to maintaining the mandate. that's something he'll look at and make a review and make a decision later. it's possible that they can change a couple of months. >> well, that would be a shame if that did happen. elise jordan, maybe it's just the old reagan conservative in
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me? going back to the air traffic controller strike. if you are ordered to go to work and you don't go to work and public safety is at risk, you are fired that day. we are not going to put the lives of new yorkers in any danger, you are fired and you are not the type of person we want in our work force any way that would put other american lives in danger. get off and we'll do what it takes to fill those spots. it may not be easy but reagan somehow managed to do it. deblasio should do. fire them. >> i can't square what we are seeing right now, firefighters who are immature high school students compare to the firefighters who rushed into saver lives from the world trade center as it was crashing down.
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it did such a disservice to the legacy of all the brave men and women who are forever our heroes within american history to have modern day firefighters acting like this and being so childish. >> elise, what you are touching on is what joe and i were talking about yesterday. we are so divided and so many people have died and so many people have a different reaction to not just covid but january 6th, which is not something i have seen in my lifetime. >> it's a bizarre fetish over hyper individualism that goes far beyond what our founders
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ever envisioned for this country, or far beyond what conservatives ever envisioned. there is nothing conservative about not listening to your family doctor and listen to fruit loops on free conspiracy theorists, losers on facebook. go talk to your family doctors before you put the lives of americans at risk. go talk to your family doctors before you call in sick. understanding that you are going to put the lyes of new yorkers in america at risk. talk to your family doctors and get off of facebook and do your job. i will say again if you won't do your job, if you won't protect new yorkers, if you put the lives of americans at risk, you should be fired. you should be fired this morning. >> all right, we'll get back to
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this. a house vote on the build back better act will be postponed as democrats in the house and the senate look to take programs that had been cut and had them back in the bill. the progressive caucus maintains and it will be ready for a vote sometimes this week. a read-out from a lengthy meeting yesterday reads "members of the caucus which endorsed the president's framework on friday signalled that they were prepared to pass both bills this week." that would be good news. nbc news obtained a whip notice from progressive caucus chair senaor jayapal. the note asks two questions, do you plan to vote in favor of the build better act. if it's able to secure 218 committed yes votes in the house, will you support the infrastructure investment and
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jobs act? meanwhile president biden is on his way to scotland this morning for the start of a high stakes global summit in glasgow. biden will deliver a meeting at the summit and holding a bilateral meeting the indonesian president. the president was asked with this possible dilemma yes. . >> can the world be confident that you can follow or make good on the promises of climate change that you have made without a vote taken place on your bill. >> it's going to pass in my
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view, we'll see. you all believed it would not happen from the beginning or the moment i announced it and you always seemed amaze when it's alive again. you may turn out to be right but i believe we'll see by the end of next week at home that it would passed. >> it's really ridiculous if you are a supporter of the president or democrats. i am sure the speaker of the house is frustrated as people at the white house. jonathan lemire, you have actually people saying oh manchin has not agreed to this or that. he and biden shook hands, he won 1.5. biden says i need two. they shook hands. manchin told cnn, he agreed on the 1.75.
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he agrees generally with the 1.5. i have said along they have been patient. they get something done and they pass a bipartisan infrastructure bill that's been there to be passed for a long time. they're debating the details now. what's the delay? do democrats just want to lose for the next 20 years? what's the delay? why can't they take yes for an answer? >> we are underscoring the levels of distrusts. we have heard from senator
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manchin, one of the reframes we heard is that we heard from some progressives in the house who says we need an explicit endorsement from sinema and manchin that they'll back the reconciliation package and in order for us to do an official vote on the infrastructure bill. now we are hearing and white house age is growing confidence. we heard from congresswoman jayapal, she believes there will be votes for both bill this week. we on friday thought this could be spilling into late november or early december. it's a significant win for the white house or democrats of all strikes. but, that delay costs two
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things. one, the president is in scotland right now without the actual climate provision he had hoped to show leaders, hey, we are back on the world stage as a moral leader on this issue and secondly, it comes too late not just for joe biden but terry mcauliffe who faces voters tomorrow and maybe staring at the polls are neck and neck. and it gets passed a couple days later, that'll be a tough one. >> we'll get to the latest in virginia in a moment. the president is having nothing to bring to europe for climate change. joining us now, our correspondent, josh letterman. tell us what's on tab for today and what we are bringing to the
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table? >> reporter: the president will have a busy day on his first day here in scotland. this will be the day when he actually has his chance to give his remarks to the climate summit. we are expecting that to be fairly short but it will be his opportunity to make the case that he's trying to make that's facing so much skepticism whether the u.s. is back with this type of force that other countries want to see. the white house they dismissed out of hand, this argument that because they don't have a bill sign into law at this point in time, the president has not been able to show a seriousness of effort by the united states. we heard a few minutes from jake sullivan who was speak to reporters on air force one. look, these foreign countries they don't need to see the ink dry on the page to know the u.s. is delivering a forceful way under president trump.
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there is a lot of skepticism. you hear it from these foreign countries, you particularly hear it from some of these developing countries that don't believe the u.s. and the rest of the world are going to step up with the kind of money they feel they need to be able to make the adaption they need for climate change to actually happen. the other part of this is that the president even if he gets everything on the table right now in congress, it's a far cry from what hoped to be able to bling to glasgow. he's going to have a whole bunch of money, more than half a trillion dollars is by far the largest u.s. investment in climate change. that's expected to deliver. he had to water down as a result of opposition from senator joe manchin. these countries here want to hear specifics, how exactly is
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the u.s. going to meet its climate goals. >> all right, josh lederman, thank you so much. it's important for us to remember as josh says, that would be the largest investment ever in the united states and climate change. you look at what this country done in 2005. we are certainly in the right direction. this continues us in the right direction. before we go to break, rev, i am curious, you got manchin who you talk to and he's been very straightforward. hey, i am in west virginia and i am fine with zero. you are at three, i will go to 1.5. that's what he said his final deal was going to be. now he's gotten up to 1.75.
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he shook his hands with the president and they agreed with 1.75 and manchin told cnn, i think it was on friday, thursday night and friday, he's there at 1.75. he's there with the framework. they just got to negotiate the details of it. the ink has not dry yet. should democrats continue to hold that on this. should they pass the infrastructure bill today hopefully then finish up the framework and the drafting of that bill, they're changing the tax code. it's going to take a couple of weeks. >> we are looking at a contest on who can come to the table with a grown-up mentality and commitment servicing the people we claim we are moderate for or we feel we can get more or more
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progressive for. we are acting like this is academic. these are things that people need in their lives and to continue our lives in terms of climate aspect and in terms of restructure world. do you push it as far as you can and say this is as far as i can go. i am going to do this for the greater good and move on or do the whole back. never getting over trick or treat last night and act like a kid and stop around your parents' bedroom and say i want it all or none. still ahead on "morning joe," the full fda granted
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emergency use of authorization for covid-19 vaccines for young children. tomorrow the cdc will weigh in. plus, what alec baldwin is saying about that deadly shooting on the set of his new film, "rust,". also ahead, american airlines cancelled their flights due to shortages. first, let's go to bill karins, what do we have? >> this week we are starting after things a lot quieter, we are going back to reality. it's the warmest october we have ever seen. november is moving in cold air. eventually this cool air is going to spread to the ohio valley and the deep south and as we head through the middle of week and all the way to the east
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coast, it's not unusually cold but considering how warm october was. two storms on the map, one we love, california is getting more rain today, let's get as much as we can all winter long and we'll take it from san francisco and sacramento. as we go throughout this week, we'll watch the storm slowly moving in. it's a cool morning, it's going to be a beautiful afternoon for everyone in the east coast, enjoy this for the southeast and the ohio valley. on wednesday, we watched the rainstorm in texas and oklahoma, not too bad. we are not dealing with ice or snow. then that rain arrives on the east coast in the mid atlantic on friday. that'll clear out for the weekend so it looks like this is a nice, quiet weather pattern for much of the country. if you have travel plans today, enjoy your afternoon. boston at 60 degrees. no problems in dallas and san
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antonio. the only airport trouble is denver. and a little bit of rain in seattle. now we are in november, this is a nice, quiet start, we'll all take it. you are watching "morning joe," we'll be right back. ng "morning we'll be right back. i've spent centuries evolving with the world.
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four months ago that we surpassed four million deaths. according to data from nbc news and john hopskin's university there, there had been a quarter of a billion reported covid cases since the pandemic began.
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the fda granted emergency use authorization to pfizer's lower dose covid-19 vaccines for children ages 5 to 11 on friday. could be a game changer and shots could be distributed as soon as this week. once the cdc also gives its approval. the cdc meets tomorrow and the cdc director will have a final say. if approves, the vaccine will be available to 28 million children nationwide. pfizer says its vaccine for children which is a third of a dosage given to adults have a 95% effective given symptomatic infections. elise jordan, kids getting the vaccine can be such a game
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changer for the country but at the same time what jumps into your head? i worry there is going to be a whole bunch of parents out there that won't do it. >> i am just so grateful though this moment has come around. mika, my eight-year-old niece, one week into school came down with covid back in august. it had such ripple effect on the family because it's not just the person who's sick but everyone else and their lives changed and other children who can't go to school in classrooms and i am so grateful for the children of this country that they're now going to have an opportunity to be safe and to be protected and so that their lives can go back to normal because of everything that has changed in the pandemic. i am worried how children have had to respond and be social in the way they normally would be. >> it really is terrible and you know i said to my family, a
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young child gave covid to everybody in the family and came home from the party and including grandparents and one who's diabetic. that happens a good bit. >> jen psaki says she had tested positive. she tested negative several times before getting that positive results. psaki said they both wore masks and she's vaccinated and she's having mild symptoms. this is why you see people in the white house still wearing masks even with the vaccine.
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kids go to school and the delta is highly transmissible and everybody did the right thing here and it could have been a lot worse. >> it's so crazy. so many of us went through the first part of covid. we are isolated and without knowing too many people, the delta variant is just spread like wildfire again. fortunately we appeared to be on the downside right now going down and certainly in the south and even in some places in the northeast and midwest, the nationwide numbers are going down, let's home they continue to go down but stories like this shows even if you are vaccinated and you are obviously much safer when you get covid but you can catch covid especially we are finding delta and a lot of people are getting it from
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children. and now some sad news, boston icon and former red sox, jerry remy passed away at the age of 68 after a long struggle with cancer. remy became a red sox's announcer and captured the hearts of every fan. he was tough. jerry was in our household every night it seems. red sox's owner says, he's known as rem dog, he was elected by fans as the first president of red sox nation in 2006. i got to say -- you just love
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and jonathan, you just love listening to this guy and letting this guy come to your household every night and he enact the whole team. it's sad, sad news for red sox fan. next summer is not going to sound the same. >> no, he was. jerry was part of the sound track of spring and summer and early fall. he grew up in massachusetts. the red sox stuck around their organization and became the announcer. he whether it was sean mcdonough. he knew the game and fantastic announcer. he also had a lot of fun. if you go on youtube and watch some of his clips, utterly
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cracking up about something he saw on the stands or field. he had been sick for a long time and had a number of waves of cancer and she speaks passionately how he started smoking at 16 and really wished he had not. we threw out the ceremony of the first pitch between the yankees and cardinals. he had oxygen to help him do so. he came out on a cart and received one last thunder of ovation from the crowd. we were glad the red sox won that day. all right, jerry remy, sleep well. coming up as we have seen so many times before, trump's lawyer needs a lawyer. the latest on the legal trouble facing john eastman, one of the leading voices in trying to overturn the presidential election. "morning joe" is coming right back. joe" is coming right back
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. protrump lawyer, john eastman, blaming pence for the insurrection. blaming pence for the capitol riot because he refused to block the certification of joe biden's win. eastman wrote "the siege" because you and your boss did not do what was necessary.
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pence is chief council in collided in eastman's remark in an opinion article of trump's outside team that he wrote later in january but chose not to publish. nbc news had not seen a draft, article or e-mails. he tries to help donald trump overthrow an election where 150 million plus people voted and he says he didn't mean to do it and he was not blaming mike pence. who does that sound like? >> we got the e-mail. this is very clear that this is exactly what he's doing. he's blaming mike pence for not committing sedition against the
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united states of america and not stopping a constitutional act that's required by the united states. this guy keeps looking, i will use the word, i will use it comfortaby because i am in the right here. he keeps looking more deplorable by the day. if somebody tries to overthrow the united states government, tries to undermine a rightful, free presidential election, you can call him deplorable. >> there is a number of people, vice president mike pence calls january 6th another day in january? really? the guy was looking and asking for advise on how to do it. how long it's taken for us to come to an agreement of what's happening here? we are still learning. the republican party and almost everybody in the republican
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party decided that you will stand in the way of a transparent bipartisan, bicameral hearing. manchin was begging republicans. give me ten republicans so we can have a transparent, bipartisan, bicameral investigation on what happened on january 6th. republicans want to cover it up and don't want you to know. >> a spokesperson did not respond to a washington post for comments and more from eastman. just four days before the attack of the capcapitol, he claimed o steve bannon's podcast if then vice president pence had quote, "courage and spine," he could keep trump in the white house. >> are we to assume that this is going to be a clematic battle that takes place of the question of the constitutional of the
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electoral count act 2011. >> a lot of that depends on the courage and responding. >> would you say that be mike pence? >> one of the reporters of the post, new story on eastman's e-mail, pence's team during the capitol attack. jackie, steve bannon's podcast, that's becoming -- a lot to dig in there. what are some important elements that readers need to pay attention to. >> i am glad you guys played that clip because there are so many public points here that already showed and put together
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and create this picture of the extreme pressure campaign that these people were saying publicly ahead of january 6th on january 6th and after that should have raised a number of red flags but we found even more pressure point that were happening behind the scenes privately that offers new insights into the mindset of some of the key players that were under duress where american democracy were pushed into the brink. you mentioned john eastman and trump's outside lawyer had sent. the siege because you and your boss did not do what's necessary. there was another e-mail, a number of e-mails sent, another one sent around 8:00 p.m., after pence went back to the floor and after the bloodshed that everyone saw played out on national television where eastman sent another e-mail to
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jacob asking him to dispute the electoral certification because he argued in this e-mail that pence violated the electoral count act because the debate had gone longer in two hours so pence could do his duty of what he owed to trump and try to halt the electoral certification and send things back to the states legislatures. there were astounding e-mails happening again and eastman mocked to us on the phone confirming a number of e-mails he sent out on this violent day of america's history. >> wow, jackie, thank you very much for your reporting on that. >> elise has a question. jump in. >> jackie, this is gotten so out of control by this point. what are you hearing from people like eastman that are going to
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be probably implicated if they have to sef. hey, maybe they have some culpability here because they have behaved in egregious way of how they enacted about january 6th. that's a good question, elise. there is sort of two tracks here. some people who are vulnerability cooperating with the committee who want to present and provide as much information as possible to help create a comprehensive accord of this day and the event leading up to the day preventing it from happening again and there are people like john eastman who are likely, expected to be subpoenaed by the january 6th committee investigating the insurrection this week or next, who continued publicly double down on their claims and propagate them. there is a sense here and a
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feeling from people like steve bannon and john eastman that this is just the start. this was the first failed attempt and if you remember kate this memo that john eastman had provided to trump's outside legal team they can ultimately be successful in actually following through on these unsubstantiated frame. these are people not committed to the committee. >> hey, jackie, good morning. it's jonathan lemire. you have done extraordinary work over the weekend reporting on january 6th and red flags that were missed and moments before the insurrection. the one i hope you can weigh in on the next step. you mentioned eastman, we heard some of the boldfaces and less
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known trump's figures. what is the timeline we have on bannon could face criminal charges and secondly, you know in terms of other interviews as the committee starts casting a wider net, when do we expect others to be brought before the committee? >> we know that right now that contempt referral voted out of the house, they need to decide whether or not they'll prosecute steve bannon. you saw joe biden asked the justice department go ahead and do so. he could get a fine of $100,000 or up to a year in prison. that remains right now something that, a decision that we are closely awaiting on. there are a number of lawsuits that are floating in the air. we are waiting the see if the national administration of archives and record is going to provide the extensive documents
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request to help paint more of a picture of what trump was saying and who he was communicating with. that's a legal battle that we are all closely watching and there is additional witnesses, lawmakers have told us time and time again to expect a flood of subpoenas and not just people who are peripherally involved with the planning of the rally and the funding of it and some of the operations around it and how people got to washington and how they were encouraged to march to the capitol and commit this violence, we are also going to ultimately potentially see them pursuing their interests in lawmakers. people like jim jordan, people were in touch with the president on that day and witnesses to the bloodshed end to trump's mindset. we are waiting on a number of
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important people to see if they're going to cooperate with the committee including his farmer chief of staff, mark meadows and kash patel. that's something we are looking for in the coming weeks as they have scheduled depositions and we'll provide documents to the committee as well. jackie, we appreciate it. still ahead, the fight for the governor's manchin in virginia is hard fought and razor thin. we'll break down the state of the race, the issues dominating the headlines there straight ahead on "morning joe." >> we are not sure if it's razor thin. we need to figure it out. plus, alec baldwin breaks his silence about the shooting death of cinematographer haylana hutchins on the set of the movie "morning joe" is back in a moment. movie "morning joe" is back in a
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at the top of the hour, a live look at washington, d.c., look at that traffic, it's back. welcome back to november 1st, jonathan lemire is with us and al sharpton. first, actor alec baldwin spoke out for the first time since he accidentally shot and killed cinematographer haylana hutchins. he discussed about his concerns for hutchins family and the future of guns in the industry. >> i can't speak because of the investigation. she was my friend. the day i arrived to santa fe, i
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took her to dinner with joel, the director. we were a very, very well loyal crew shooting a film together and this horrible event happened. i have been told multiple times don't make any comments about the ongoing investigations and i can't. he's in shocked and he has a nine-year-old son. we are in constant contact with him, because we are worried about his family and his kids and -- we are eagerly awaiting at the sheriff's office tell us what they have yielded. >> would you look at another film set? >> i do know that a non going effort to limit the use of firearms on film sets. >> baldwin's wife trying to end the exchange with reporters told the new york post she worries
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about her husband's mental health after the shooting and she's working to limit "ptsd." crew members from the set of "rust" are speaking out. among the reported incidents, alec baldwin's stunt double accidentally fired a blank after being told his gun was cold and a young woman accidentally shot herself in the foot. a camera assistant saying that adding the round was a blank. >> shutdown from movie sets if it happens once. >> a camera man who quits hours before the resignation that he seen the zant director often rushed to get shot that he would skip over important protocols.
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the assistant director did not respond for requests according to the l.a. times. we'll be following that story. you saw alec baldwin and his family are being followed by the media trying to sort of make a deal like get their comments on camera and saying they can't talk about it so hopefully the media will leave them alone. leave his kids alone. >> after one accident they'll discharge it. shut the set down, ask how that happen. one is enough and two or three accidental discharges? how does that happen? >> well, we'll continue to follow the story, there are a lot of questions here. let's move to virginia's race for governor which could be a complete toss up or not depending on which polling you are looking at. the latest fox news polls for
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republican youngkin ahead of terry mcauliffe, 53% to 45%. but the latest polls from "the washington post" finds mcauliffe had 49% and youngkin at 48%. well, within that polls, 4 point margins of era. the polls open in virginia at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. joe, you are good at this and you look at polls and you take them for what they are. what can we make of what we have seen so far? those are two different poll results. >> two very different poll results and we have seen in the past that it certainly in 2016 and 2020, some state polls are just garbage and not worth being looked at. i can't really say about
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virginia, i know that midwest polls especially wisconsin polls especially unreliable in the past several years. reverend al, i can't say the old politicians look at antidotal evidence. i don't look at billboards or paid advertisement. that's a personal investment, that's somebody that's going to go out and vote. youngkin had signs all over the state and even in areas that joe biden won, mcauliffe for not so much. jeremy peterson is going to be on the show later, you look at the rallies, youngkin, the excitement that youngkin's rallies and of course that's still antidotal and i remember
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at the end of myth romney's campaign on his campaign staff on the night he had 30,000 people either pennsylvania or michigan. they said we are going to win it, we could feel it and of course they did not come close. this race far closer than it should be and most democrats and republicans that i talked to off the record think it's youngkin going to lose, what do you hear? >> i was in virginia on thursday. of course i was talking to people about the governor's race, it's going to come down a turn out. terry mcauliffe has one secret weapon that he did not enof itself go and get and that's tonight donald trump is going to call into a rally and try and campaign for the republican
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candidate, given the mania and narcissist donald trump, he can go and cause a huge train out that may not have happened for terry mcauliffe. all he has to do is act like youngkin is his guy. he's only going to win because of him and wake up a lot of voters that may have been wish y washi. if i was terry mcauliffe, i would be praying if donald trump may take the advance for this win. if all else fails, put a microphone on donald trump and he'll deliver the daily brief. >> you know jonathan lemire,
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another thing that may keep this race closed, terry mcauliffe is not a political animal, he's a political monster. this is a guy that works 24/7 and will turn over every rock. we'll do whatever it takes to get those people out to the polls and get them voting. i don't say that really about too many politicians because a lot of them don't know how to play the game. mcauliffe is grown up and it will turn a lot of voters off. this race is close and as close as "the washington post" says it is, i am thinking mcauliffe would have liked it. he should have a stellar
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turnout. he knows how to close an election campaign. >> he's a political insider, no question there. that cuts both ways. that turn voters off. he also is someone who knows how to finish an election and democrats that i have talked to, certainly is far closer than they wanted to be. this is a state that joe biden won by ten. they do think they have a turnout game and they are hopeful about that. there is a story line here of the enthusiasm seems more on the republican side. youngkin is closing strong and he has done. a masterful job. but he also has been keeping at
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arm's length and not be so associated with trump. he's coming off a businessman even though he does go with a lot of trump's policies of course. we have to see what kind of impact trump's call may have. >> we should expect a longer night than we would think about virginia and the question is, look, democrats at this point, they'll take win. it does not matter about margins anymore. you look to education is playing a huge role in this campaign and again, talk to democrats so they'll tell you that, a lot of the republicans talking about critical race theory or talking about using terry's blunder where he says parents should not
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be involved in schools or spg along that line. that's been used against and it seems to me that republicans have latched onto this education issue much like they latch on defunding the police last year. i am not so sure yet that the democrats have a proper answer that either of those attacks. what happens tomorrow is going to be good indicators of what republicans do over the next year. there is a tendency nationalize the virginia race a little bit. there are so many people active in d.c. politics in that race. it really is way more local in the final hours than we give it credit. you look at all around the country, so many parents are upset over schools and separate
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of anything kids are being taught but their children going to school so there are so much contention right now and you look at a candidate like youngkin. not over stepping and making himself too woven to trump. i am with the rev, i am waiting to see if donald trump is going to launch down and get some attention and mess up what youngkin been doing which is master full in terms of the virginia race. you see a lot of republicans
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said i don't like trump, i didn't vote for trump. i voted for biden but i am comfortable voting for youngkin because he's not trump. it will be interesting to see what happens. if republicans going to win in a state like that, perhaps he'll provide road maps for republicans in other statewide races and in states where donald trump flat out lost the state for republicans in 2020. this is down to the wire, we'll be all over this in the next 24/48 hours. president biden touched down in scotland moments ago for the start of the global climate summit in glasgow. kelly o'donell has the latest. >> reporter: on his final night in italy, president biden made a
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prediction about his long awaited domestic policy agenda. >> i believe we'll pass my build back better plan and the infrastructure bill. >> reporter: a dismal sign back home. the president's approval rating slipped to 42%. a seven points slide since august. 71% responding say america is headed in the wrong direction. >> the polls are going to go up and down. i ran to make sure that i follow through on what i said i would do. >> reporter: addressing the supply chain crisis hitting consumers at home. president biden announced new steps to reduce red tapes at ports and urged the government to ease the glow of goods. >> reporter: one piece of the president, domestic of the spending plan going global.
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>> in a separate break through the president announced an end to trump's era import taxes on foreign, aluminum and steel. >> reporter: on stopping iran's progress towards nuclear weapon, the president says diplomacy can restore the iran's nuclear deal while pointing at his predecessor who took the u.s. out of that deal. >> we are continuing to suffer from the bad judgments that president trump made. >> reporter: after a summit about allies and close sty tys, the one world leader who affects him deeply is pope francis. >> i just find my relationship with him one that i personally take great solace in. he's a ttruly, genuine decent
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man. joining us is karen pierce, madame ambassador, i will start with you. what do the u.s. and britain need to get here? >> one is keep the target of limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees centigrade within reach. that's an incredibly important thing for the next coming decades. the second is to mobilize the hundreds of billions of dollars we need of finance so that we can help to benefit other countries to do what they need to to to keep their people safe and to the effect of climate change. the third thing is all around
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nature, bio diversity and what can we do to protect the environment and how can we adapt or help communities to adapt. the fourth thing is coming together. >> so we can create new instruments for the challenges ahead. many are concerned that our allies can't trust us or depend on us because joe biden went over to the summit without passing a supplemental act that would have funded to a great degree, technology beat back the tide of climate change. are you confident in the direction of the united states that we can be a trusted partner on this issue?
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>> oh, i am very confident. it's fantastic, the u.s. is back ton world's stage. we have an important agenda, open markets and it's very good to have american leadership again. as for the package, anyone knows it's not straightforward but we have been very admiring of what the president has managed to do so far on rescue and post covid recovery. we are hoping to be able to build on that at the summit. >> ed luz, what's your take on how joe biden has done thus far? >> if it's compares to donald trump, biden is very understandy stressing that and it's a big change as karen points out, america is back.
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it will still have $500 billion in energy. he's done all that he could do to patch up things with president macron with france, following the submarine ruckus. he's part of a g-20 pledge for the first time to limit it to 1.5 degrees centigrade. there is a huge question mark of his ability to deliver. >> they're watching the shenanigan in congress. they're worried that this president supports doing what we can which is not very much so
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far. how long is he going to last? i think there is a big question mark over to what degree america is back. >> ambassador, it's jonathan lemire, a lot of unity coming out of the g-20 and signs of progress. some strains, in particular i want to pick up where ed mentions of the submarine deal of the u.s. and u.k. struck that deal and cutting out france and leading to france and the president is leading to ma crone over the weekend. we heard from president macron saying i know the australians lied to him about this deal. scott morrison lied to him and obviously in flaming further tensions among his alliances. can you weigh in terms of where things stand with these long time partners. how firms are these relationships? >> i think the relationships are
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pretty firm. one issue does not define relationships between the western partners and obviously including austria in that. france is a very valued partner including in the indo-pacific. there is a lot of cooperations we can have there. the submarine deal is all about capabilities and securitying capabilities in that area. in terms of approaches around open society and open markets pushing back on authorityism, i think you will find those alliances are in good shape. >> good to see you. you are not going to forgive me for asking this. there is been quite a lot of chaos around the early stages of
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this top summit. massive delays yesterday and there is a sanitation workers' strike in glasgow and images of discontent from '78 and '79 and it does not look like it's very well planned. i wanted to ask you whether this is something that can be fixed quickly because it's not giving up a good feel. >> what i don't recognize that description, ed, we have 30,000 people coming to glasgow to this summit. glasgow is an interesting town from energy and efficiency as well as its history, we have 140 or 130 world leaders that are bound to be individual parts
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that don't work smoothly as everybody hoped. this is really good that we are able to do it in person. there were covid protocols that are very strict. they are no doubt contributing to the fact that there may be cues to certain venues. i don't think people mind that. people are pleased to be in person and making their pledges and trying to get global held 1.5 degrees. you have heard what boris johnson said this morning. it's touch and go whether we can meet that target. to be honest, most of the people there are focused on what we can do to meet that target and they're much less worried about whether there is a tree on the line. >> you know, we had thought that jonathan lemire with the former new york daily news, tabloid reporter, that it appears it's
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ed luz talking about this. madame, ambassador, finally, tell us the state of our special relationship between the united states and great britain that donald trump was less than kind and people were pulling their hair out running around saying the special relationship is forever tarnished. i have a little more confidence in our relationship with great britain than that. where do we stand in 2021? >> i think we are standing in a good place to be honest. i have been lucky enough to be present when the prime minister, the president have met. they had long, warm conversations with each other about a huge range of climate and security. it's a deep profound successful relationship. it's not defined by single cues. the bedrock of cooperation on
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security and intelligence that everybody knows about. we are adding cooperation around technology and new technology around science and innovation and including dealing with the pandemic and the future. we are adding a lot of build back better, you heard the president in your clips referring to his build back better world and his domestic package. we have a lot of work going on with the administration and other people in the u.s. about how to build back better and fairer from covid. fundamentally the agenda as we call it in the u.k., i think you call it foreign policy for the middle class. that's important for both of our countries, it's helping to take our relationship into new areas. >> all right, karen pierce, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. let's talk about who's not at the summit, president xi.
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it's remarkable that we'll be sharing the global stage with china over the next 50 years at the very least and yet we are now dealing with somebody that we are going to be partner with whether we like it or not who's becoming more owe opaque, so mu has changed the past couple of years. what do we make of all of this? >> strict quarantine of china and he does not want to leave the country. the suspicion is he does not want to be put on the spot either in the g-20 meeting or in glasgow to make more significant
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pledges. china accounts for almost double. it's about 27% and the u.s. is about 15% and that's going to rise its pledge to stop international call financing. the real problem is china's production. that's going up. china is the single most important thing that could have been done at g-20 was to get china to pledge to end to face out coal production and along with russia refused to do so. this is not a good sign about china's willingness to take a haircut if you would like on its energy commitment. >> not a good sign at all. ed, thank you as always. we'll be reading your latest pieces from financial times including one title, "biden's
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strongest weapon is still donald trump." ahead of tomorrow's gubernatorial election. michelle goldberg writes about what she calls the right's big lie of sexually assault in that state. explain her column. plus, the election gets underway today of the high-profile of kyle rittenhouse, we'll go live to kenosha, wisconsin to get the latest there. you are watching "morning joe," we'll be right back. you are wat we'll be right back. as someone who resembles someone else, i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪
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joe." parents claimed a sexual assault on campus was covered up. katie beck explains how this issue is playing into a tight governor race. >> you failed, you failed. >> reporter: parents reaching a boiling point. school board members raising the heat. a sexual assault was covered up. >> all of you must go, we'll take back our schools. >> reporter: the 14-year-old male student guilty on two counts of sexual assaults. he wore a skirt and entered a girl's bathroom and assaulted a
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15-year-old girl in may. the superintendent saying this. >> do we have assaults in our bathrooms and locker rooms? >> we don't have any records of assaulting in our restrooms. >> shame on you! shame on you! >> reporter: calling it a lie after a release of internal e-mail notifying the incident. ian pryor has two children attending loudoun school. they knew the controversial bathroom policies trying to pass would get derailed if that news got out. the superintendent says -- students walking out in protest saying they did not feel safe in school. it's the latest example of this district turning into a battle grown. other issues including mask mandates and critical race
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theory. >> critical race theory hits black people against people. >> can we get a motion to remove masks. >> reporter: some say the voices at board meetings don't speak for the majority of parents. nolan ran for a school board seat and said she faced harassment. >> how would you describe this? >> reporter: there should be accountability on assaults, she questions the timing. >> it came about all at once and exploded when all of the elections were so close. >> reporter: virginia candidates now putting education center stage. >> in loudoun county, we have a school board that's clearly negligence. >> we don't have time to be wasting on these phony trump-up
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culture wars, this fake outrage. >> reporter: do you think motivated minority. >> parents go out there and they are fired up and they are defending their kids. >> reporter: political experts say the fiery topics are galvanizing republicans. >> loudoun is a perfect proving ground for what republicans hope to do in 2022. our thanks to katie beck for that reporting. michelle goldberg, her latest column of the right's big lie of sexual assault in virginia. >> we are reading all the time and we are talking about the story about a trans student that goes into a bathroom and this is happening and it's going to have a big impact on the virginia
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race. and then we go, read the column and of course even in that package, you hear this bathroom controversy. there is no controversial bathroom policy regarding trans students. this is a controversy that you and your column point out that's just been made up. >> it's true there was a sexual assault. a, there was a trans student and b, it had something to do with the trans policy which was not in place at the time of the assault. it was a trans student who wore a skirt in order to gain access to the girls' bathroom and wait
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and ambush this girl. the truth is it's still sadden and violent and this girl was still a victim. this is a girl and a boy met up repeatedly, several times to have sexual relations in this bathroom. she and they agreed to meet up for a third time. she told him to meet her in the handicap stall. he wanted sex and violently assaulted her. this is something that happens in many assault cases. it does not diminish the violence of the assault. it does make this political story we are hearing it's a school board putting trans ideology of the safety of students and the danger of these policies and the existence of
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predtorial trans people. none of this were ever the case. >> for viewers who are watching, let's be very clear here. the school board did make a terrible mistake. they can be judged on that and should be judged on that. michelle, again, though the story line in the governor's race, the story line politically and the story line in the nbc package is parent saysing this has to do with controversial new bathroom policy. that's just not the truth. this was a crime that took mace in a high school bathroom but it had nothing to do with a quote "controversial bathroom policy" that a lot of republicans are running around the state claiming it did.
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>> the boy was wearing a skirt and that was the germ of this whole thing. the bathroom policy was not in place. the boy was not identified as transgender and even if the policy had been in place would have had access to the bathroom. the boy and the girl made plans to meet up in the bathroom. the girl asked him to meet her there so they can talk. the boy is guilty. i also think it's not clear to me whether the school's student was covering this up or misunderstood the question, had there been sexual assault, there is another piece of this.
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the disposition of that case is this month. it's worth noting that he had restraining order against returning to the first school and so it's not clear what options the school had in terms of barring the school all together. we had a big controversy in this country for the last more than four years where boys accused of sexually assault and whether schools should buy allowed to expel them or suspend them before there is a trial or hearing. the same people who are up in arms in many cases about the fact that he was allowed to return to the second school in the past and including betsy devoss that you can't bar them from education without due process. to be clear here and the purpose of your column and the headlines
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we are showing from conservative website. what occurred was called a quote, "transgender bathroom assault." michelle goldberg, thank you for your work and you can read michelle's column about this in "the new york times." >> as a parent i would be angry with the school board that didn't talk about these asults and the school bathroom and if they said and gave us the wrong information, they should be held accountable. again, that does and that plays
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then of course to the due process question that a lot of conservatives as michelle said have brought up of new standards that are put in place during the obama administration. a lot of questions here and a lot of reasons for parents to be upset. >> that's just liesment. "the washington post" breaks down the january 6th attack of the capitol in striking details. we'll have the new reporting on that ahead. there are several reasons why flights are being cancelled right now. it seems like american airlines is experiencing many of those issues at the same time. we'll explain the trouble on the tarmac. we are back in just a moment. tarmac we are back in just a moment
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he's the author of "reborn in the usa," roger bennett. >> it's really good. >> it changes the face of american society. roger, i want to share pictures of mike's children, the only children wearing harry kane uniforms. four boys. >> what cuties. >> we all have our own cross to carry there. >> oh my lord. it's great to bring kids up knowing that life is dark and happiness is fleeting. that's good parents i have ever seen it. >> yeah right.
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>> well, let's talk about the weekend. >> cotton had a little problem or two this weekend with mighty man united. >> it was a weekend. the results in the premier league. the big match, a flailing tottenham hosting a flailing manchester united. a knife fight to the death. united open with an exquisite goal made in portugal. ronaldo put the ball home. ronaldo then turned creator to set up a man who looks like he's been marooned on the desert island for a weekend with only a
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volleyball for company. what an incredible combination for two men with a combined age of 70. agony for a terrible tottenham. fired their manager post game. it was so bad they should have to change their name to meta. in other games, an dau by lost to tiny crystal palace. this is like watching an antelope turn around and kill a lion up ending the food chain. dzhokhar opened the scoring. and this is a fine, fine goal by gallagher. just look at it. it's there. running into your screens now. this little blonde dynamo. finish it. for crying out loud. look at his face. what boris johnson imagines when he looks in the mirror, that
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man. you might see liverpool with a two goal lead. a comeback started to paraphrase michael scott quoting himself quoting wayne gretzky, if you don't cross, you don't score. there's no lesser expert than ryan reynolds who said this weekend, soccer is staggering, heart breaking, i'm never sleeping again. it's a life truth. >> a life's truth. chelsea at the top of the table. then citi, and citi drawing a tie with united right now. what exactly is going on with city. last year they couldn't be beaten. what's happening there? >> they started slowly.
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if you watch on twitter, every so often someone will post a video of a robot doing something unbelievable. jumping fast or dancing crazy. you'll get 20,000 likes. i'm afraid of our robot overlords. robot have kings that need to be worked out earlier in the season and they come back and dominate. there's oil money chasing an oligarch and there's chics, oligarchs, entrepreneurs. football reflects the power balance of the world order. played out in cleats. >> arsenal just had a dreadful season last year but doing much better this year. >> yeah. i mean, it's -- arsenal are -- it's hard sometimes to tell where arsenal begin and the minnesota vikings end. it's all savage pay to team owned by stan kronke. if you've seen thelma and lieu
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weez, you know it's going to end in glory, the car going over the cliff. gret memories were everyone. courage. >> courage, roger. >> roger bennett, thank you. and roger is joe's guest in the latest episode of joe's podcast. so check it out. it's lots of fun, and the book is amazing. thank you. >> it's a great pod was. number one. courage. >> thank you. still ahead, thousands of firefighters call out sick in new york city amid a vaccine mandate. that department's commissioner calls it a bogus ploy that puts people in danger. the people court, meanwhile, has agreed to hear lawsuits challenging the strict new law, abortion law, in texas. we'll talk to someone who has argued dozens of cases at the high court. also in legal news, kyle rittenhouse will go to trial in a deadly shooting last year
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welcome back to "morning joe." it is monday, november 1st. there is new york city. come on. got to wake up. the sun is up. it's definitely time to go to work. our guests all still with us. we appreciate that. let's get right to the use. a covid vaccine mandate for city workers in new york is stirring up new tensions. among the nation's largest fire fighting force as thousands of
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unvaccinated municipal workers may face sanctions today. stephanie gosk has the latest. >> this morning the deadline is here for new york city's work force. starting today firefighters, police officers, sanitation workers and other city employees will be put on unpaid leave and could even lose their jobs if still unvaccinated. more than 22,000 government workers failed to comply with the covid vaccine mandate as of sunday night. firefighters in particular are still lagging behind with the fdny reporting a vaccination rate of 75%. this morning the firefighter's union defending the members. >> all we were asking for was extra time. we wanted to get time so they could file their rx and medical exemptions as well as make their retirement decisions and get their vaccination if they so choose. >> reporter: department leaders denying reports that some fire houses were closed this weekend due to staffing issues after
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2000 firefighters called out sick. in a blunt statement the fdna commissioner says some members are purposely staying home, calling it irresponsible, bogus sick leave, creating a danger for new yorkers and their fellow firefighters. union leaders insist there is no coordinated sickout. while nationwide, millions of new covid vaccine doses could be on the move in just 48 hours. if the cdc signs off on pfizer's pediatric vaccine for kids ages 5 to 11. doctors recommend signing your child up as soon as possible. >> we can decrease the number of kids getting sick and make a huge dent in the pandemic. >> health experts helping to change the mind of a majority of parents of five to 11-year-olds who are uneasy. some point to mild cases of an inflammation of the heart muscle. pfizer's pediatric trials found no evidence of that or other serious reactions.
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moderna revealing the fda notified the company it will need additional time to assess whether their vaccine causes those problems. >> let's talk about the firefighters. first, we need to be clear that the overwhelming majority of firefighters have done the right thing. they followed the mandates. they've taken care of their families and the people they come in contact with to make sure they're doing everything they can to remain safe, but there is a smaller percentage of firefighters who are using the safety of new yorkers, the safety of americans as leverage, hoping they're going to get new york city to buckle. i'm sorry. maybe i take too tough a line on stuff like this, but if you work in the field of public safety and you use your reckless
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behavior as leverage to continue using your reckless -- endpajing many reckless behavior, you don't belong on, you know, on the front lines. it's just -- it's despicable. >> well, i think that life comes down to a choice. if you choose to do public service, particularly public safety, then you have taken an oath or commitment that you are going to do what is well and what is correct for the public. now, i've been a civil rights activist all my life. if i take a stand on something, i pay the consequences. if you really have to take a stand on this, then you can't visit both ways. you can't say i'm going to take a stand but don't lay me off or don't affect me being exposed to people that i could effect. and that's what's most disturbing about this minority of some of the firefighters. it's that they want to be able
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to say that i'm standing on principle but don't want to face the consequences. and all of us that have stood on principle face the consequences when it didn't affect anyone but us. they're taking a stand that is infecting and putting others at risk. that's not taking a personal stand. and then that immunity on top of that is totally out of bounds as far as i'm concerned. >> well, yeah. and mika, if they don't want to get their shot, they don't need to, but you don't get to work for new york city. you don't get to work on the frontlines if you don't. it's that simple. make the choice. >> what's e.r.a. frustrating is, you know, you wonder how many of these firefighters have kids in the new york city school systems who get vaccinated long before covid. this is alise jordan, a city where the mandates have really impacted the numbers. the covid numbers are -- you can say whatever you want about bill
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de blasio. he has led on covid and brought the numbers down, and mandates have been a big part of it. and it's, again, i go back to the collective american experience. usually we're all on one side of a battle, and yet, we find these pockets of people completely going against science, facts, and the norms. >> it's amazing. there's this small number of new york city firefighter who is just want to be the equivalent modern day equivalent of typhoid mary and put everyone else at risk. i cannot believe that this is the same force that so bravely saved everyone on 9/11, and that this is the way that a small number are behaving. and -- you know, mandates are one thing, but i really just wonder what can be done with health insurance. so many of us have to pay more money for our health insurance for people who are unwilling to
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get vaccinated yet completely qualify. and i really feel like this is just at the point where you pay more if you do not want to get vaccinated. >> yeah. i mean, it comes down -- >> very good point. >> personal responsibility. i talked to a friend in northwest florida who supported donald trump, but he happened to be on a hospital board. he told me 99% of the people that were in the icu were not vaccinated. throughout the entire summer into the fall. that's been the case time and again. that means people that need to get elective surgery, people who need to get important surgeries can't get important surgeries. that's how the late summer, early fall has been. but alise is right. it's just like listen, if you want to smoke, you can smoke cigarettes. it's nothing to me. i wish you wouldn't. >> outside. >> it's not good for you. i wish you wouldn't.
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but i shouldn't have to pay your health insurance or -- >> and you shouldn't make me sick. >> medicare or medicaid in taxes because you're smoking. you should take that on your own shoulders because you're making that choice. and again, that's your choice. ain't america great? t the same thing with a vaccine. if you don't want to get the vaccine, that's your responsibility. you should pay more for insurance. those of us doing the right thing, those of us who are working hard to keep our families safe and our communities safe, and to help small business owners stay open, to help entrepreneurs grow their business, create jobs, you know? to help families that have owned restaurants for generations who are struggling just to stay open, we've done our part to help them. to help the hospitals. to help health care workers. to help keep insurance costs down. to help keep small business owners running. you know it? if you don't want to do it,
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that's fine. you should pay more, though. >> meanwhile, a growing number of republican-led states are challenging president biden's vaccine mandate for federal contractors. that is slated to take effect in the coming weeks. a coalition of ten states filed a lawsuit on friday seeking to block the rule led by missouri's attorney general. texas filed a separate lawsuit, and in his filing state attorney ken paxton said, quote, the federal government does not have the ability to strip individuals of their choice to get a vaccine or not. if the president thinks his patience is wearing thin -- >> they do, actually, if you work for the federal government, kenny boy. kenny boy, why don't you just run around and try to drum up new conspiracy theories. >> this is just -- anyhow, to continue. if the president thinking his patience is wearing thin, he is clearly estimating the lack of patience of texans whose rights his enfringing.
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>> they work for the federal government. >> this is after florida filed a similar lawsuit. those challenges come as the supreme court has rejected an emergency appeal from health care workers in maine to halt a covid-19 vaccine mandate. that rule that went into effect on friday requires all health care workers at hospitals and nursing homes to get vaccinated or risk losing their jobs. the state is not offering religious exemptions. >> just like mississippi. >> end of story. >> has in the past on other mandates? >> three conservative judges dissented with justice neil gorsuch writing the state is not treating all health care workers equally. lawyers remain there is no religious discrimination, saying the law applies to all and does not restrict any particular religious practice. the state e lem nated all nonmedical vaccination exemptions in 2019. the court has previously rejected challenges to vaccine
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mandates in new york and in indiana. but those cases did not involve religious objections. >> let's bring in neil. neil, a lot of times people will overgeneralize, read too much into a supreme court's ruling. it doesn't matter what the issue's on. in this case, i'm wondering, does this have less to do with the substance of the particular mandate and more to do with the fact that the supreme court just says it's your state, you have the right to regulate it the way you want to regulate it? >> well, it's a very preliminary procedural decision. so yes, i agree with you, joe. you can't really read too much into it at present. it's not a fully briefed case or anything. it occurs on a shadow docket of the supreme court. it doesn't tell us much. for example, the abortion decision that the court is going to hear just later this morning is one in which it arose two
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months ago to the day and the supreme court said let the texas law take effect. here they said we'll let the main law take effect, but these are not what are called decisions on the merit. supreme court hasn't totally blessed it. that's something they decide later after the case is fully ventilated and briefed. >> well, to the case you just mentioned, the u.s. supreme court. today is expected to take up two challenges to the most restrictive abortion regulation in the country. the texas law that has virtually ended abortions in the state. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams has the latest. >> the court is considering what's to become of two lawsuits challenging sb-8, the texas law that stopped nearly all abortions in the state. the law says they can't be performed after six weeks of pregnancy before most women know they're pregnant. >> it is meant to intimidate, to threaten, to make us afraid of providing the abortion care that
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people need. >> the supreme court has long said state officials cannot ban abortions that early. so the texas legislature handed off enforcement to private individuals, making it hard tore challenge the law in court. it allows anyone to sue any doctor who performs an abortion or helps out. those suing can collect at least $10,000. supporters say it works. >> we know that the texas heart beat act saves about 100 lives per day from abortion. >> texas is urging the supreme court to rule that because of none of the officials do anything to enforce the law, they can't be sued. but the justice department says their lawsuit should go forward and state court clerks and judges should be blocked from doing anything to carry out the law. the biden administration says texas should not be allowed to use its novel law to nullify a constitutional right to abortion. >> just passed the law empowering complete strangers to
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become bounty hunters going after women who exercise their right to choose. >> neil, politics aside, whether you're pro life or pro choice, whether you support roe v. wade or not, this is the opposite of what i said about the maine case. it was wrapped as a procedural decision, but this goes to the very heart, the very substance of a constitutional right that americans have had for about 48, 49 years now. it serves as a de facto ban. i'm shocked. as are, by the way, many pro life conservatives. shocked that the supreme court actually ruled in a way that would serve as a de facto ban of a conservative -- i mean, of a constitutional right. and the conservatives i talk to when this happened were afraid
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that some liberal state could do this on an issue like guns. >> exactly, joe. so texas has thumbed its nose or maybe raised another body part at the u.s. supreme court. and for our entire lifetimes, basically, or most of our lifetimes since 1973, roe v. wade has been the law of the land. it was a 7-2 decision at a time when there were i think seven republicans on the republican-nominated justices on the supreme court. what texas did is say well, we're going to allow bounty hunters or vigilantes to sue anyone who helps a woman get an abortion. if you can do that for abortion, you you're right, the liberal state can do it for guns or for anything else. and basically end run around the supreme court of the united states. that's what the case today is about. and to be sure, two months ago the supreme court as we were talking about earlier on a procedural motion said, well, let the texas law take effect.
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they said we want -- that's not a decision on the merits. today the court is going to reach a decision on the merits. >> neil, good morning. it's jonathan lamire. certainly it's a busy docket for the supreme court in the coming weeks. you mentioned another case beyond abortion, another hot button issue, guns. and the court is going to be taking up a case out of new york which some believe could lead to a real expansion of people who can carry firearms around. walk us through the case. it's merits, where it comes from, and where you think the court will end up. >> this is a big deal case. it's called new york rifle. new york basically prohibits the concealed carrying of firearms unless you have a special justification. and then there's a separate case which the supreme court has on hold. that's my case out of hawaii for readers, full disclosure in which hawaii prohibits the open carrying of firearms, and that was upheld by the court of appeals. the supreme court is going to take up the new york case.
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it's the first time in more than a decade in which the supreme court has heard a gun case. back in 2008 the supreme court really changed 200 years of constitutional law by saying the second amendment recognizes an individual right to bear arms, but they didn't put any flesh on it. they didn't tell us what it meant. now the court is being asked to decide what does that mean? can new york ban the concealed carrying of firearms in public just by ordinary people like you and me? or is the second amendment something weaker than that? >> all right. neil, one more for you. former president trump attempting to block a wide range of documents related to the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. according to a federal court filing on saturday by the national archives, donald trump is hoping to prevent the documents from being reviewed by the house committee empowered to investigate the mob violence at the capitol. billy laster, director of the national archives, white house
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liaison division wrote among the documents trump sought to doc are 40 diaries, schedules, showing visitors to the white house, activity logs, call logs and switchboard shift change checklists showing calls to the president and the vice president. all specifically for or encompassing january 6th of 2021. 13 pages of drafts of speeches, remarks and correspondent concerning the events of january 6th, 2021,, and three handwritten notes concerning the events of january 6th from former white house chief of staff mark meadows' files. trump has also tried to exert executive privilege over pages from former white house press secretary kailee -- and relate to election security and other
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topics concerning the 2020 election. the former president has called the document requests a vexaciues illegal phishing expedition untethered from any legislative purpose. >> not much if it centers around january 6th. talk about how the court might rule on any claims of executive privilege while -- well, while a riot is going on at the capitol, and while it appears to be seditious acts taking place all across d.c. >> so there is something that's illegal, but i don't think it's the request from the january 6th committee. it's the underlying actions by president trump. these are, of course, records that are -- were generated by public employees, by federal government employees, paid for by u.s. taxpayers.
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there's zero decent claim of executive privilege here. that's why, of course, donald trump has tried to walk into federal court, suing the national archives which also houses our constitution, making it two sets of documents that donald trump would rather us all ignore. but i don't think that his claims here are going to work for two reasons. one is the supreme court has said that executive privilege really lies in the office of the current president of the united states. not a former one. they haven't fully ruled it out. they've really, really cast doubt on the idea that executive privilege would apply. particularly here when it looks like the privilege claim is being done to avoid the embarrassment and potential illegality coming out. that's number one. number two the supreme court said eve within a strong claim of executive privilege, even foreign affairs, not like launching a coup, but even under the heartland of executive
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privilege, it can yield if there's a need for the evidence. here there is -- this is as important an investigation that has occurred in our lifetimes. and so the idea that executive privilege would block investigators from coming to the truth on what happened on january 6th is, well, legally preposterous. >> yeah. preposterous. hey, let me ask before you go, neil, about your appearance near the finale of billions. we were watching a week or so ago. we saw you there. we were so moved by -- >> we were like is that neil? -- by your portrayal of wag's lawyer. i was wondering, did you use a technique? how did you approach that role? >> well, you know, joe yourks guys haven't had me on in a while. i had to find something to do. so they let me do a fictional show while i was waiting to come back in studio and see you all. but it was really fun.
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it's an incredible show. and what a privilege to be on it. >> so fun. >> what a great show. >> you were great. former acting u.s. solicitor general. thank you very much. we'll see you soon. and now to a trial that's getting nationwide attention. kyle rittenhouse shot and killed two protesters and wounded another last year during a protest over police brutality. today jury selection gets underway in his case. joining us from outside the courthouse in wisconsin, nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez. gabe, good morning. what can we expect today? >> reporter: mika, good morning. in some ways this case has crystallized the polarization in this country over the protests of the last year and a half. kyle rittenhouse is seen either as a vij lanty or a hero. and a jury will now decide whether he acted in self-defense. this morning the national spotlight is back on wisconsin
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as jury selection begins in the kyle rittenhouse trial. the now 18-year-old is accused of opening fire with an ar-15 style rifle, killing two people and injuring a third. last summer rittenhouse was 17 at the time and travelled to wisconsin from illinois. the calls went out on social media for people to help protect the city during the protests and unrest that erupted following the shooting of jacob blake. >> our job is to protect this. if there is somebody hurt, i'm running into harm's way. >> blake, a black man was shot multiple times in the back by a white police officer during a domestic disturbance. he's now paralyzed from the waste down. the shooting recorded by a bystander happened months after george floyd's death. rittenhouse faces two counts of homicide among other charges and potentially life in prison. the judge in the case has already made national headlines for deciding the attorneys must
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not refer to the men rittenhouse shot as victims. >> the word victim is a loaded word. and i think alleged victim is a cousin to it. >> reporter: the judge ruled the lawyers can, however, refer to the three men as rioters, looters or arsonists if they have evidence to support the claims. his lawyers are expected to argue rittenhouse who has pleaded not guilty shot the men in self-defense. >> when we have the self-defense on tape. we have the case on tape. >> reporter: beyond the courtroom, the case ie lighted a deep political divide and reignited the debate over gun and self-defense. >> there's the narrative that mr. rittenhouse was a vigilante who came from out of state armed. on the other hand, he's arguing he was the victim. he came here to protect people and to protect lives. >> reporter: video of the men interacting with rittenhouse is expected to be a key part of
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this trial which is expected to last two or three weeks. >> all right. thank you so much, gabe. appreciate it. reverend al, my god, here with riten house you have a guy who was not standing his ground. he wasn't even standing in his own state. he crossed state lines with an ar-15 threw himself in the middle of this and started shooting people. what's alleged about being shot
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by an ar-15, and people shot can be called rioters, looters? it seems to have gotten off to a preposterous start as far as jury instructions go. >> preposterous, outrageous. all those words can be applied here correctly. i was involved as president national network and worked with the father of jacob blake who was shot by the police officer, and so i watched what was going on. and you have to remember that when this shooting happened, which ended up with two people dead and one wounded by this defendant, there was no looting going on that night. there was no rioting going on that night. so to say that they can be called looters or rioters, but the people that were killed could not be called victims when they, in fact, were not engaged
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in anything but that they were there is an outrage that really is -- outrage doesn't give a real in my opinion, give the real meaning of what we're looking at here. these people were not in the middle of violence. and this young man came from another state, saying he came to protect businesses, and he ends up shooting three people with an ar-15, and now the judge says no, it's prejudicial to say they're victims. if they're not victims, then what are they? there was no violence going on. there was nothing going on that he was defending himself, so they have to be victims, your honor, or are we trying to set a tone now that would have this guy walk away? clearly the city was already of set that jacob blake junior was shot several times in the back and there were no charges there. but now you're going to let a
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guy go free that came across state lines to shoot down people, two who died, and now you're going to act like we're going to see if they may have been rioters or looters even though none of that was going on the evening of this shooting, but we're not going to call dead people victims. this is outrageous if there ever has been anything outrageous. >> he crosses state lines. he's carrying an ar-15. he's playing vigilante. he kills two people. and the judge says those two people that are killed can't be called victims. it seems like the scales of justice are being weighted in his direction right now. >> joe, it's just insanity. and it does such a disservice to the victims and their legacy and how we deserve to remember them to have this judge make a mockery over how they were -- and their victimhood.
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you know, there's so many victims today in american society, but the ones we don't actually want to call victims are actually victims. the rev has been to so many grave sides of victims in these police shootings. what has been the common thread over the last few years over how and why the circumstances of these innocent lives being taken? >> i think the common thread is that we've not really had a legislative addressing of the problem which is why i think it's so important that the george floyd bill that is still up for argument in the senate get passed. when you study civil rights history, you see that the answer to the battle for nine years from the montgomery bus boy caught in '55 to it took to '64
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to get a civil rights act but we got it and then a voting rights act. there's not been a police reform or even a policing act by the federal government through all of these. so you've had to deal with state by state, county by county, local laws, local regulations, local enforcement. we need federal response. federal legislation to respond to these times. otherwise we're going to keep doing this, because states will always find a way to go around and protect what is local. we have to have a national tone set legislatively. >> not only has there not been a police reform matter and certainly there was hope over the summer there could be federalization, but now to tie in what we were talking about, there's a case about guns coming in from the supreme court. and there may be more people able to carry firearms legally. it runs the risk of more vigilante things like this coming to be. still ahead on "morning
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joe," if the battle over a trillion dollar budgets wasn't tricky enough, president biden also has a group of global leaders to contend with. we'll go live to scotland for the latest on the summit as the domestic agenda looms large over capitol hill. plus alec baldwin's wife attempts to cut off the actor's impromptu interview over the weekend about the shooting death of one of his colleagues. nbc's miguel almaguer has the latest on the investigation and that ahead on "morning joe." n "" some people have joint pain, plus have high blood pressure. they may not be able to take just anything for pain. that's why doctors recommend tylenol®. it won't raise blood pressure the way that advil® aleve® or motrin® sometimes can. for trusted relief, trust tylenol®. that advil® aleve® or motrin® sometimes can. ♪ ♪ ♪
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comcast business powering possibilities. we've got live pictures right now of prime minister boris johnson speaking now. we expect to hear from president biden in the next hour or so as he attends the opening session of the climate summit. this is in glasgow scotland. we'll be following this and
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dipping in one necessary. joining us now, white house correspondent, peter alexander. peter, good morning. >> mika, good morning to you from here. the president just got here in glasgow within the last hour or so for what is a make or break climate conference. this is billed as the last best chance to avoid the potentially gat strosk perils of our warming perils. it comes as the president is expressing new optimism that he can get his ambitious spending passed within days. votes he hope to have done before he got here. president biden touching down in scotland, prepared to push foreign leaders to slash carbon emissions. the u.s.'s credibility is also at stake as congress has yet to pass the president's massive spending plans. including half a trillion in clean energy and climate commitments. >> in the build back better framework, which is god willing, going to be voted on as early as
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sometime this coming week. >> reporter: after multiple delays house democrats were eyeing a vote tomorrow. that timeline now shifting as lawmakers scramble to make last minute changes. president biden is facing political perils. his approval rating sinking to 42% according to a new poll. a 7 point drop since august. and 71% say america is headed in the wrong direction. >> the polls are going to go up and down and i didn't run to determine how well i'm going to do in the polls. >> this week's gathering follows the first in-person g-20 summit in two years. the president announcing new steps to ease bottle necks that have snarled the global supply chain. >> how to make sure we have access to all the products we need from shoes to furniture, to e electonics, to automobiles. >> president biden achieving a key win that could help pay for his economic agenda, getting leaders to support a global minimum tax to block large corporations from stashing
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profits in more tax friendly countries. it's what's accomplished on -- the president saying he's disappointed the leaders of russia and china to the world's biggest plu or thes did not attend the g-20 and are not traveling to glasgow either. queen elizabeth is no longer coming due to concerns about her health, but her son is delivering an urgent plea for action. >> the planet's health today will dictate the health, happiness, and the economic prosperity of generations to come. >> and mika, as you noted, boris johnson is delivering his opening remarks where he's warning that the world is one minute to midnight having run down the clock, he says, waiting to combat climate change. as for the president, president biden says despite scaling back some of the strictest climate proproposals, the u.s. he says can slash emissions in half by
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the end of the decade. another headline that we've been watching which is happening back home is the press secretary, one of the most familiar faces in the biden administration revealed she tested positive for covid. she cancelled her trip to travel here after learning members of her family tested positive. she said she last saw the president five days earlier. they were outside, six feet apart. they were masked at the time. she is vaccinated. she has mild symptoms, she says and credits the vaccine for that. as for the president, we learned that he tested negative yesterday. mika? >> nbc's peter alexander live. thank you for that report. and tomorrow is election day in virginia for the virginia governor's race. one of the most watched contests in the country which could have national implications ahead of the 2022 midterms. nbc news white house correspondent monica alba has the latest.
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>> it's a state-wide race with national implications. >> we can't get this done unless we keep this positive momentum going. >> nation is watching what's happening in virginia right now. >> democrat terry mcauliffe and glen youngkin crisscrossing the commonwealth this weekend in a last push to be virginia's next governor. as president biden's falling approval rating takes a toll on his own party. a worrying trend ahead of the bellwether election for the 2022 midterms. with a new national nbc news poll showing the party in power trailing republicans on which better handles the economy, inflation, and immigration. the top issues on virginia voter's minds? >> people's safety, schools are important. when it comes to climate change, there is many issues and what we've seen going on in the country is disturbing to me. >> we want safe communities,
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good schools, we want jobs. we want to protect our families. >> all as donald trump looms large. the former president who backed youngkin but hasn't campaigned with him in person, teasing a telerally appearance before polls close. the latest test of the influence he has over the republican party in a critical tossup election. monica alba, nbc news. joining us now, new york times recorder jeremy peter who is has been covering the virginia race and writes in his latest dispatch, quote, it was clear in interviews with voters over the weekend that many virginians view this election as something symbolically greater than a face off between two candidates for governor. the contest has exposed the country's persistent divisions over questions of race, class, privilege, and the appropriate role of government, and become an outlet for virginians to register their dissatisfaction with the political culture. that is heavy, heavy stuff. >> well, it is.
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and jeremy peters, it's part of the trend we've seen over the past 20 years. all politics is local, just doesn't apply so much anymore in virginia. governor's races and most con zbregsal races over the past 20, 25 years, these sort of races have become nationalized. >> that's right. and on the republican side, because of the outsized presence of donald trump that's even more true. i think the national environment right now is not great for democrats. and that should concern terry mcauliffe and his supporters. and i know that it does. and judging by the size of the crowds this weekend alone, which obviously is not the final say. it's not the only thing you should look at. but judging by the size and the enthusiasm of the crowds, youngkin has momentum behind him. and if the polls are to be believed, it's a really tight race, much tighter than it should be.
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and that's because he is doing very well with independents. people who -- the kind of voters who often make virginia politics quite complicated, make it the kind of state where it goes for obama by six points in 2008 and then the republican governor gets elected the next year by 17 points or something like that. now, virginia is not quite that swingy anymore, and trump is much more toxic and has past a poll over the party making it hard for independents to go for republicans these days, but youngkin will test that. he will test whether it's possible for a republican who doesn't appear very trumpy and hasn't wrapped his arms around the president, whether that kind of republican can get elected in the swing state. >> so jeremy, in 2020 i heard a lot of people in the chattering classes on the left laugh about the defund the police argument that republicans used. as ridiculous as it was in a lot of races, it worked.
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we're hearing the same thing in 2021 about critical race theory, about woke politics. republicans hammering that, talking about schools. i'm now hearing from democratic operatives in virginia that actually that is drawing blood just like 2020's defund the police argument by republicans also drew political blood. talk about the huge role that that issue and schools seem to be playing in this race so far. >> yeah. exactly. it's very emotional when you get to talking about kids and schools and parents and it really has galvanized a lot of independents. i think critical race theory is interesting. it kind of means whatever you want it to mean. it's not literally being taught in virginia schools, but there are instances of parents getting upset at what they see curriculum that demonizes white people as inherently bad.
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and that's where you get the parents showing up at rallies outside school boards, and it's -- even if the reality in the classroom is quite different from the caricature in the right wing media, it still has an impact on how people see how independent voters especially see national politics, and that effects their vote. now, it's interesting, because this -- the whole debate over race is hitting suburb ya, and that -- the suburban vote that trump lost where he just got hammered and all of these voters went -- who would have voted for a republican like romney, ended up going for biden, because they just couldn't stomach voting for trump. some of those people, it will be interesting to see how many come back to the republican side of the aisle here and vote republican. >> so jeremy, you mentioned donald trump. and youngkin seems to have had a
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balancing act here where he has managed to not alienate trump by rebuking him, and having trump perhaps take out his vengeance on him, but keep him at arm's length at the same time. walk us through how he's been able to do that. and secondly we were saying in the last 24 hours of the race, the one thing that could potentially change the game would be if trump becomes a large presence here for one side or the other. what do you think? >> okay. so this is really interesting. fairfax county is where i spent the weekend with youngkin rallies. and as you know, you go to a typical republican event these days, and you see a lot of maga gear, a lot of trump gear. trump flags. i saw almost none this weekend. i went to three different yurngen rallies. that doesn't mean those people didn't mostly vote for trump, but it's an interesting gauge of what type of republican voter they consider themselves to be. so what youngkin has done that's interesting, and it could be a
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template going forward for other republicans, is he's gone out of his way not to offend trump, but he's also gone out of his way not to wrap his arms around them. they've been strategic in how they've engaged the former president by not offending him. they've let him do these town halls. they're not objecting to that. there will be one tonight. they put up with the tweets occasionally or not the tweets. emails. >> exactly. >> the email statements. they kind of seem like tweets because you see them all over twitter, but they've not complained about that publicly, and they haven't had to decry too many of the statements which has kept trump in the background. if you talk to republican strategists, one of the things they say is having trump deplatformed has been very helpful for candidates running for congress and other offices down the ballot, because he's not in the conversation like he used to be, and he's not driving the news cycle, and people more or less can forget about him in
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a way they weren't able to before. >> yeah. >> all right. jeremy peters, thank you so much. great reporting. and we'll, of course, all have our eyes on virginia over the next few days. alise, what are you looking at in this race or what do you think is going to make the difference? >> are trump voters going to actually turn out for youngkin? that's what i'm really watching. because are they going to be energized enough by someone who didn't fully embrace and fully wrap himself in his -- in trump political armor? and so i wonder if he doesn't have that turnout, then this is an easy race to call, and his candidacy is doomed. but if they are revved up enough and he manages to get the trump voters and pull back some of those suburban republicans who fled the party, that's when it starts to get really interesting for looking at the political calculus going forward. >> yeah. and the polls are all over the place. the fox news polls shows that
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youngkin is up eight points. "the washington post" shows mcauliffe up one point. we don't know much. most of the news over the past week suggested the wind is really at youngkin's back and it should be a good night for the republican, but you just never really know. as we've learned from election after election. finally, rev, i want to ask what you're looking at in the final day of this virginia race. it is an important race, and also if you could talk to us about a big event celebrating the 30th anniversary of national election network. >> well, i'm looking in the virginia race, and i was in richmond thursday around a national network's affordable referendum. i'm look agent what the turnout will be. i think if donald trump goes over the top and n his call-in tonight, it could help with turnout. i'm also look agent the fact that when you bring up critical race theory which is not even taught in virginia, but using it
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as an issue, that you have these parents that are so concerned about something that's not there, but some of these same parents had no problem with confederate statues that were there, and then when you had the controversy in civil, virginia and the anti-semitic chants, it was the state where donald trump said there were fine people on both sides. i'm looking at where we are in terms of the whole question of racism. the 30th anniversary of nation action network, tonight the vice president will be speaking, the governor, the mayor and others. but many of the victim's families, members of george floyd all the way back to family members going back 30 years will be with us at carnegie hall where we will note and celebrate that we've been three decades in the struggle. we still fight. we -- we've gone from the killing of use of hawkins when
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we started in '91 to now fighting george floyd. unfortunately, we still are fighting a lot of fights, but we made some racial profiling laws, police reform laws, some dealing with diversity in the corporate structure. there's been some victories, ann victories but on the field and still fighting and celebrating the fighters tonight at carnegie hall. >> thank you very much. five months, 60-plus journalists, "the washington post's" new series on the january 6 insurrection. keep it right here on "morning joe." [ kimberly ] before clearchoice, my dental health was so bad i would be in a lot of pain.
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what is that broader fight? how will you take it on? >> yeah look. the broader fight, you can in the house as hard as you can fight to try to tell the truth. you can fight against the cancer in the republican party of lies, of conspiracy, of dishonesty. you ultimately come to the realization that basically it's me, liz cheney and a few others telling the truth and about 190 people in the republican party won't say a word and a leader of
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the republican caucus that's embracing donald trump with all he can. this is not on the ten of us that voted to impeach and liz cheney and i to save the republican party but the 190 republicans who haven't said a dang word about it and they put the head in the sand and hope somebody else does something. >> republican congressman kinsinger after announcing he won't be seeking re-election and sits on the committee investigating the insurrection and "the washington post" has an investigative piece entitled "the attack: before, during and after." the paper goes into incredible detail about the events leading up to the capitol riot, what happened during it and how the deadly event changed america. joining us now reporter at "the washington post" aaron davis. what do we see here that perhaps
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people might have glossed over in their reviewing everything that they can about the attack on our democracy on january 6? >> thank you for having me. we did break it up this way before, during and after because we found new findings in all three sections. leading up to january 6 there were tips and information coming in to the fbi and to other agencies from all sorts of sources, fbi informants, local officials, former national security officials, social media companies flag what they believed not just general threats where we're unhappy with the situation but planning violence. some social media companies reported what they thought were
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criminal activity being planned. a tip to the fbi more than two weeks before january 6 where an individual said they're speaking in coded language and said that they're planning to overrun d.c. police, to arrest lawmakers, take them and put them on public trial. and that particular case was closed within 48 hours by the fbi. they claimed that this was aspirational violence, not enough details of the planning to do anything about it. we saw this in the documents and interviews over and over where trump incites folks with the talk of false claims about the election. an immediate reaction online and people planning and getting more specific in the planning for violence and yet time and time again heading to january 6 the warnings were not heeded, not taken seriously in many cases. >> it's jonathan.
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congrats on the piece. it is terrific journalism. it gets into the things missed. pick ax and code for guns and caravans of people meeting to descend upon the capitol together. so the question is, why were these things ignored? why did law enforcement turn a blind eye to them? and will things be different perhaps heading into more election seasons with frankly the tlets of violence hanging over all of our heads? >> that's why we took it so seriously. if you look at the things happening there were signs of increasing anger in that community and it's a real concern for folks who are in law enforcement right now. there was a number of situations that we saw along the lines. >> all right.
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"the washington post's" aaron davis, thank you so much for your reporting. the new project is entitled "the attack: before, during and after" and i suggest everybody take a very close look at that for more insight. >> a thing we saw is the fbi a bit gun shy of going after this. they had the opportunity and the information and decided to pass it off. >> it's incredible. who gets a pass with this kind of behavior and then we might just drone someone for speech on the other side of the globe but over here i do think we should have constitutional protections of course always but it is striking who gets a pass. >> all right. that does it for us this
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morning. lindsey reiser picks up the coverage right now. hi there. in for stephanie ruhle, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city, it is monday, november 1st. we have the facts to know at this hour. we are keeping an eye on glascow where president biden is set to speak at the u.n. climate summit any minute. but here at home all eyes are on d.c. where in one hour the supreme court will take up two challenges to the texas abortion law that bans nearly all abortions in the state. we'll dig into what exactly is at stake and the impact far beyond texas. in virginia just one more day until the crucial election for governor there as a brand new nbc news poll shows sinking poll mes for president biden and worse for democrats on key issues. we start today in


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