tv Alex Witt Reports MSNBC October 31, 2021 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
a very good day to all of you from msnbc headquarters in new york. welcome to "alex witt reports" here's what's happening at 2:00 p.m. eastern. in rome the president is wrapping up another bus busy day on the world stage at the g-20. president biden set to speak to the press and answer questions in 30 minutes or so. we heard from biden hours ago at an event focus canned on the supply chain crisis. >> in the pandemic, is the
ultimate key to unlocking the disruptions we're all contending with, but we have to take action now. together with our partners in the private sector to reduces the backlog that we're facing and then we have to prevent this from happening again in the future. now that we have seen how vulnerable these lines of global commerce can be, we cannot go back to business as usual. >> meantime back in washington, the house is gearing up for a vote on both the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the $1.75 trillion social spending bill on tuesday, but over on the senate side it hardly appears to be a done deal. >> we want to move both bills in tandem and the second bill, the bill that deals with the needs of the working class of this country in terms of child care n terms of pre-k, that deals with the existential threat of climate, that bill is still being worked on literally today, it will be worked on tomorrow. >> it comes as president biden
desperately needs a win. new polling out today from nbc news shows his approval rating is at its lowest point so far, down seven points since august, with 71% of americans saying the country is moving in the wrong direction. let's go right to nbc's mike memory joining us from rome. what do we expect to hear from the press as we await for his news conference slated a half hour from now. >> the president gets ready to wrap up his time in rome, we've seen the ways in which he's trying to patch up relations with some of our allies. look at the new nbc news poll, showing 70% of americans think the country is on the wrong track, including almost half of democrats, he needs to do some reassuring to americans back home. as we get ready for the president's first formal news conference in some time, you can expect to see him tick through something of a laundry list of ways in which he's been able to use his relationships with our allies to try to tackle some of the toughest economic challenges at home. yesterday the announcement not just the g-20 countries but that
more than 130 countries have agreed to implement a new global minimum corporate tax. the announcement with the european union today easing a trade war over issues like aluminum and steel tariffs and then the president's announcement today as it relates to supply chain issues. one of the biggest challenges as we head towards the holidays at home the president outlining steps he says he will take that will build on that reconciliation framework he hopes for a vote to happen on tuesday. let's take a listen to the president. >> build back better framework provides for the first time funding, dedicated to monitoring and strengthening supply chains. today, i'm announcing two further steps. first, i'm allocating additional funding to help american partners as well as the united states, cut port congestion by slashing red tape and reducing processing times so that ships can get in and out of our ports
faster. and secondly, i'm signing an executive order that will strengthen our management of the united states defense stockpiles from minerals and materials and allow us to react and respond more quickly. >> reporter: as we get ready to pivot from the g-20 summit in rome to the cop26 in scotland, we heard a number of presentations today about the importance of taking urgent action to deal with climate change that included from the prince of wales, prince charles, the italian prime minister saying that yes, the costs associated with taking steps to mitigate the carbon emissions is expensive, but it's nothing compared to the costs of doing nothing. >> absolutely. an investment in the future. thank you, mike, for that. to capitol hill and nbc's julie sirc is standing by for us. you were reporting the fever russ negotiations under way for the president's domestic agenda, but is the thought that democrats can get this done, are senators sinema and manchin on
board? what are your indicators on that? >> that's still the big question. we hasn't heard from them apart from their statements on thursday, manchin didn't speak out on the sunday shows, but senator sinema, interesting nugget from her we're learning, she spoke to speaker pelosi this weekend and about what, about those prescription drug pricing negotiations. i spoke to you about last hour. she spoke to pelosi, but she's also negotiating with a group of lawmakers, including senator bernie sanders who was on cnn, you heard them there, still calling this bill a framework, still working on it and will do so tomorrow. it's hard to imagine how they will be able to stop writing it today, put their pens down in time for the rules committee to take it up tomorrow and for a final vote on tuesday. you heard bernie sanders at the top say that he wants these bills to move in tandem, but something we've heard for months at a time from progressives, how progressives, which are endorsing this fast timeline, but it's unclear how we're going to get there because as this
group of lawmakers are working with sinema still negotiating with that centrist holdout on adding lowering prescription drug prices back in to this build back better plan, that may tick up the price of this thing which won't make senator manchin happy happy. we're over his $1.5 trillion he set at the start of the process this summer. tomorrow will be a busy day as we're chasing these answers in congress. one important point we just also are reporting is that at 2:30, about 25 minutes from now, senator -- sorry house progressives are jumping on a call to talk about all of these issues and get on the same page here. as we stand here right now, it's really difficult to imagine or really predict why progressives are endorsing a timeline they have not gotten commitments from the centrist holdouts. >> okay. julie, thank you so much. keep a monitor on that which we expect to happen in 25 minutes from now. appreciate you. meantime joining me right
now, nevada congressman steven horseford, democratic ways and means and budget services committee. good to see you again. let me ask you the likelihood of the house voting for these bills on tuesday. logistically speaking what needs to happen for the votes to be taken and then the legislation passed? >> thank you, alex. it's god to be on again. first the rules committee will begin meeting tomorrow, monday, that will prepare the rule to come before the house of representatives on tuesday, which with based on my understanding and leadership's direction, we will begin debate and votes on tuesday on both the bipartisan infrastructure bill as well as the build back better agenda. these are transformative bills that are going to deliver significantly for the american family, including cutting taxes for middle-class families,
creating millions of good-paying jobs, reducing costs on everything from child care to health care and making sure that as we build back better, we do so in a safer and more equitable way that does not leave anyone behind. >> so the question is with the finish line in sight, how important a moment is this for moderates and progressives? is there extra significance given the timing of the president? he's out on the world stage right now. a lot of paying people are paying attention to this even outside our borders. >> he is. he is delivering around the world as the leader of the free world is supposed to do, but he has already set up a big win for the american people right here at home as well. before he left, obviously he came to our caucus to talk to us about the framework in the build back better act which, again, is
about people, not about process or politics, it's about people. like my constituent who shared with me what this means for her, she talked about the child tax cut and the benefits that that's already providing to her and her children. she's able to now afford paying the power bill and providing healthy food for her children. that's what's contained in this build back better bill and why democrats will deliver for the american people. >> look, that which you're hearing from your constituent e-everett. that's not unique to you. when joe biden came to speak to the democratic caucus what was the reception to him? i've seen some who have said, oh, it was just really an honor to have him there. i get that. but the reception of it, was it cold? was it medium? were people like yeah, did that fire them up? i'm curious what that was like?
>> i was estackic because of what's in the bill. what's in the bill is universal pre-k for children, something democrats have been working to deliver for, for decades. what's in the bill is child care so that it's no longer a challenge for working families to return to work and make sure that their children are receiving the care, the quality care, that they need. what's in the bill is expanding health care coverage for millions of americans who can't afford it. in nevada that's about 70,000 people who it will help get coverage that don't have it today. what's in the bill is a provision that i worked on, the breakings the cycle of violence act, which would include a historic amount of funding to disrupt violence in our communities by providing health and wellness and employment and training services for young people to end gun violence. what's in the bill are benefits to help families, to help small
businesses, to cut taxes for middle-class families, and create millions of jobs. i'm ecstatic because we're about to deliver big for the american people, and it's because of the leadership of president biden and vice president harris and democrats. the question is, will any republicans join us to get this across the finish line? >> right. all of these things you're saying, duly noted, are all great, having said that, there are things notably paid family leave, not going to be in this bill, largely because senator joe manchin has not supported that at this point. interestingly, nbc news has learned that the duchess of sussex, meghan markle e-mailed patty murray and kirsten gillibrand on friday, asking them, keeping fighting hard, but she's like the echoing the sentiments of many in this country as an average citizen. what are you hearing from your constituents on that issue?
>> rightfully, people are concerned, especially women, and people of color, who have been disproportionately affected during this pandemic and the recession. they're the ones hit the hardest, and no one should have to choose between caring for a loved one a child or a sick parent, and having to take off work and to lose pay. i have a constituent tamika, who has been an advocate for paid leave and so my commitment to her and everyone else out there is to let them know president biden and democrats are going to continue to work on paid leave. whether it's included in this package or not, it's a priority for the american people and we know that it's a policy that should be implemented, despite objections by one or two senators on the other side. >> okay. nevada congressman steven horseford, thank you for your time and insights into what's going on. for all of you, the g-20, it
is over and before president biden leaves rome for that climate summit in scotland, he is going to have a news conference and so that picture that we were showing you, that is where that will be happening in about 15 or 20 minutes or so, if he is on time. so we will keep monitoring that for you and get that under way once he takes that podium. in two days virginians will be heading to the polls to cast their ballots in this year's election. a roanoke college poll shows the race for governor is neck and neck. the candidates scam scrambling to make their final pitches. >> look what i'm proposing to take virginia to the next level. youngkin would destroy the economy, social agenda so divisive. he's ended his campaign on a racist dog withal. >> we've been endorsed by people who have never endorsed people before, the hampton roads black caucus endorsed me and terry mcauliffe last time. this is a big statement about what it really means to bring
people together. >> let's go to nbc's chris jansing in sterling, virginia, once again, talking with people volunteering and people in grassroots organizations right now. let's get to the candidates this time, chris. how are both of them planning to spend the next 48 hours? >> reporter: with all the intensity you would expect for a race this close within the margin of error poll after poll. the latest aggregate says it's a 0.6% race, which is why they both started early this morning on the campaign trail. terry mcauliffe right now still has five more events today. he ends up not far from here in leesberg at the halloween parade. glen youngkin will finish up his bus tour and ends in leesburg. louden county is so important, but what's really interesting is what he's calling his last event tomorrow, louden parents matter. we know that he is really fired up the republican base by warning them if a democrat, terry mcauliffe, gets elected,
they're going to take control of their children and what they learn in school. the question is, and this is the critical question, has it started to fire up the democratic base as they see this race tightening. this is a group of women who have been out, they have been texting, going door to door, making phone calls, part of a group called red wine and blue and we have jessica with us who is a teacher. so did it fire you up to hear glenn youngkin? >> yes, it absolutely did. especially in regards to what's going on here in louden county and always have to justify our profession when it's the kids, their well being, who we always have at heart in education. >> and julie, tell me exactly when we hear people are texting, you've sent out hundreds of thousands of texts, why. to who? what are you telling them? >> we are excited for red, wine and blue to be here, 20,000 texts to women in louden county because we know -- >> just here 20,000 texts?
>> texts to 20,000 texts because we know that suburban women are going to be the determining factor in this election and we know that they are not buying in -- so we are all here today to text and remind people who have not voted yet and answer any questions. >> is there a certain number you have to reach before you pour the wine? >> i'm not sure i want to say on camera, we may start soon, i don't know. >> well, they've been very good not doing it yet in the red, wine and blue group. the serious part, women make up 53% of the electorate. louden county, critically important because over the last ten years the population here has grown 30%. it went heavily for joe biden last time and so the margin here could determine who wins this too close to call gubernatorial race. >> can i say, when they pour the wine is key. couldn't be until nighttime otherwise i would be down for the count for the rest of the
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20 past hours. 21 in fact. we are waiting for the press conference from the president scheduled nine minutes from now. we will see if he is running on time. a lot of factors that play into his ability to be on time, but we will see again. that is going to be a news conference in rome at the conclusion of the g-20 summit. we'll take it once it gets under way. meantime the president's next stop is the global climate summit in scotland where the future of the planet is at the top of the agenda. it cannot be underscored the importance of this meeting. let's go to josh letterman joining me from glasgow. josh, huge aspirations there, but what are these leaders truly hoping to accomplish?
>> reporter: well, they are hoping, alex, to try to keep the paris agreement goal of limiting climate change to 1.5 degrees celsius in the hopes of still being something that's possible for the world to achieve. already, the planet has warmed more than 1 degrees celsius, about two degrees farenheit, because of huge driven global warming and the most recent u.n. research finds that it may be too late to keep alive that goal of limiting it to 1.5 degrees. anything beyond that and you start to see catastrophic effects of climate change, more frequent extreme weather, hurricanes, drought, hunger and disease. what these leaders want to do is get the countries attending this summit more than 120 leaders expected to attend, to pledge to take action not next decade or 20 years from now but this decade. president biden has a tough job todd here because his credibility is in question on the world stage over this, given the fact that president biden
was unable before coming to glass gow to get secured a vote on that critical climate legislation as part of the spending bill we've been talking about. a lot of world leaders who remember how president trump pulled out of the paris agreement and remember how presidents clinton and george w. bush, never ratified the kyoto protocol and say, if the u.s. is serious they need to put their money where their mouth is before they encourage other countries to try to do the same, particularly developing countries, that say we didn't cause the global warming and don't have the funds to pay for. it one big leader who will not be in glasgow, president xi of china who governors the biggest polluting country on the planet. hear what is secretary of state antony blinken had to say about china's lack of participation today. >> it's ultimately going to be up to china as now currently the world's largest emitter to decide whether it is going to do the right and important thing
for its own people. but also for everyone around the world because you're right, unless we're all in this together in taking the steps necessary to keep warming to 1.5 degrees celsius, then it's going to be a problem. >> it's not all about the world leaders who are attending this summit, alex. there's a whole host of major climate activists, government and corporation leaders who are going to be here, including the noted climate activist greta thunberg who showed up today in glasgow, came by train because, of course, she's opposed to air travel given the greenhouse gas emissions that come from flying on a plane. she was mobbed at the train station surrounded by all kinds of people. police had to escort her away. she has been very critical of the leaders coming to glasgow saying they are not doing what they need to do to save the planet for future generations, alex. >> i'll tell you it's appro po
glasgow is the host city because they have sweltered through the hottest summer on record this summer. there will be people saying we can attest to this. thank you so much, josh, for that. joining me is tom steyer, president and founder of next gen america, and also a former presidential candidate and chief economic recovery adviser to california governor gavin newsom. good to see you again. i know you are passionate about the environment and making it safe for the planet to continue existing, that's not an understatement. headlines are saying, tom, this is the make or break moment for combatting global warming. do you agree with that? will this u.n. climate conference make a profound difference, not slight, profound difference in the climate change fight? >> i think it will, alex. and i think that there are two sides to this to remember. one, which josh was talking about, is the public sector part of this, the governments who are coming here and making mention about how they're going to
reduce the emissions from their countries. but the other part, which josh alluded to, which i think is huge, is the movement by businesses and by civil society around the world to invest in and create new ways of producing energy and using energy. i think that that revolution, that economic revolution, by big companies like gm and jp morgan and hertz, but also by small startups, the entrepreneurs of the world, the silicon valley entrepreneurs, is going to be absolutely critical to making our goals and i think they're going to shock the world with the ideas and the speed with which they enact those ideas. >> but, tom, if china's not on board, if india is not on board, i mean, we all share the same planet. it's not as if there are pockets you can say the u.s. is going to make good on its promises, europe and other factions, and they don't. it affects everybody.
>> you're absolutely right, alex. you know, china is by far the biggest polluter in the world. india is going to have literally five times as much electricity generation in 2050 as they do now. but what i believe will happen is that clean energy over fossil fuel energy. no reason for people to build more coal plants no reason to build natural gas plants. the ideas coming from the private sector are going to make it imperative for countries around the world to build clean energy, use electric vehicles that will be cheaper and better. governments have to lead. there is a huge signal that has to come out of glasgow, scotland, this week, but that signal is going to reverberate in economic systems around the world, and i truly believe that private sector is going to take up this mantle from governments and really blow everybody's mind
in the best possible way. >> i tell you, from your lips to the lawmakers ears for sure. let's hope that's the case. let's remind people what we're seeing to the left of the screen. president biden's news conference scheduled for a couple minutes from now but we're not going to go there until we finish our conversation with tom unless the president takes to the podium. so let me dive into how democrats plan to pay for the social spending package, this framework includes a plan to finance more than half of it from forms aimed at wealthy americans. a new article, tom n new york times says, in the end it was the millionaires versus the billionaires. the millionaires lost. this plan is going to raise a lot of money from the so-called working rich in large companies, but does appear billionaires will continue not paying proportionate taxes on the vast majority of their income. you, my friend are a billionaire, so this feels awkward, but are billionaires paying their fair share?
>> look, i can see that they're not. everybody can see that they're not. look, i've released ten years of tax -- of my tax bills that show actually i have been, so i don't feel any conflict about this whatsoever. in fact, we can see that billionaires as a whole, are paying lower tax rates than normal working americans, forget millionaires. i'm completely behind the idea and always have been about taxing wealth as well as income. this is -- this new -- the biden administration is fully paying for this through a variety of things, including raising rates on the highest earning americans, but they're not going after billionaires' existing wealth in any way, shape, or form and to me that's something i've advocated for a long time because the wealth disparities in america are even greater than the income disparities. what people have is so desperate and i've always felt that's something that should be addressed. >> yeah. that is something certainly that
wealth tax would address that at least in part. let me ask about the billionaire's tax which would have required them to pay yearly taxes on their assets that increase in value. if you look at the headlines, senator joe manchin is the one blamed for nixing this plan from the bill. why is that? why do you think joe manchin does not want this tax? >> i honestly don't know, alex. i think senator manchin is somebody who thinks clearly about these. i don't always agree with him and i don't understand where he's coming on this, but what i see is in this reconciliation bill there is a huge move on climate we were talking about earlier, and it's critical i believe the biden administration has really come through on that and they are fully paying for it without raising taxes on americans. what they promised to do, they have very much done and although you can disagree in terms of what they ended up with, i think
they did the best possible job under the circumstances of both getting in what they could, and they promised particularly on climate i think they've done a fantastic job and also paying for it in a way to push it so that corporations at least pay a reasonable amount and that the burden of taxes is fairly paid by the richest americans. i think they tried their hearts out. >> tom steyer, i always appreciate our chats and your insights. thank you so much, my friend, we look forward to seeing you again as we all look at the hour, 31 past, and we give you a live look at rome. that is where the g-20 summit is wrapping up. we're awaiting a news conference from the president where he will be speaking on this weekend. he will be bakken ot world stage and talking on all that has happened in the past couple days. joining me now white house correspondent kelly o'donnell from rome. "usa today" white house correspondent courtney, president obama's former deputy national security adviser ben
rhodes, whose book "after the fall america and the world we made" and adrien, former senior aide for the biden/harris camp. i'm going to start with you here, only because it was kind of hard to pick through from the three lady who to go with first, we're able to hear president biden wrap up a couple days of face-to-face time with world leaders. do you think he's walking away from the summit with tangible accomplishments? >> yeah. i think one of the things he's been trying to do is change the agenda america has in the world and to connect what he's doing in the world to what he's doing at home. if you look at what he's been doing at the g-20 it's focussed in that space. the focus on a global minimum tax and cracking down on people trying to evade taxes this is a piece of what he's trying to do to confront inequality in the united states and his legislative agenda. more importantly in the context of the summits he shows up in
rome with the news that his framework for his build back better bill in the united states has over half a trillion dollars in investments and clean energy and budding climate change. that's the most significant investment in fighting climate change has passed in our history and probably any country's history that gives him momentum going to glasgow to get other countries to do things like banning the financing of coal around the world, moving away from methane, so he's trying to pull it all together. the world presents other challenges, iran's nuclear program, tensions with russia and turkey. he's trying to tie together to people what he's doing at home and abroad to fight climate change and to fight inequality. >> let me ask you about china. noticeably absent from the g-20 as well as the climate summit this week and as we look ahead, what kind of a difference does that make in driving biden's agenda forward with china not being there? what do you make of china's testing of a hypersonic missile
that can evade u.s. defenses. there were comparison made to not really, but kind of like a sputnik moment, night that seems like a very serious national security concern. >> well, i think what's more problematic in the conduct of the summit is they didn't show pup pointing to covid but a lot of other leaders are there despite covid. china is the world's largest emitter. you cannot get to a solution on climate change that doesn't involve china raising its am big to fight climate change in the same way the united states is. what got us to the paris agreement in the obama years was obama and xi jinping coming together behind the emissions reductions targets that allowed the rest of the world to come into the deal and xi jinping was in paris for those talks. now you have through no fault of joe biden over the course of the last five years steady deterioration in u.s./china relations, a more belligerent xi jinping who feels much less concerned about appearing with world leaders in a photo on or seen to be working
constructively at a summit and yes, you have provocations, in terms of china flying into taiwanese air pace with its aircraft, or china testing new missiles, a potential nuclear arms race, those things are difficult to manage in their own respects, but what they also make more difficult, alex, getting china more invested in the international climate change process, getting china more invested in the g-20 agenda like cracking down on tax evasion around the world. those things require cooperation. the balancing act for the administration going forward, how do we talk to these guys and find some areas of overlap, we all have interest in saving the planet, while taking an issue on human rights and where we feel our national security interests are, all are harder when you can't meet with xi jinping face to face because he's the one and only decision maker in that system. >> 100%. kelly, let's go to you. what do we expect to hear from the president in this news
conference scheduled about five minutes ago, but he's been running late on this whole trip. >> we expect it will probably be closer to the top of the hour for the president to do this news conference. it's important to have be a opportunity to question the president on a range of issues. the last time was when he was in geneva, switzerland, after the meeting with vladimir putin where he did a solo news conference. he takes questions from reporters regularly but this stature and staging is an important opportunity. in this time, limited as it has been in rome, a number of opportunities of meaningful actions on a personal and global sense. the meeting with the pope was significant, also one-on-one meetings with angela merkel and president erdogan of turkey and the leader of singapore and meeting with the european union, significant breakthrough there on the issue of tariffs, rolling back the aluminum and steel tariffs that were enacted during
the trump administration, that then caused the europeans to roll back the tariffs on goods that affect american producers on a range of things, everything from kentucky bourbon to harley-davidson motor cycles. that's going to have a real impact on those businesses and certainly on the american steel and aluminum industry. the president talking about that today affecting steel workers and union jobs. that is one of the things they're pointing to. also meeting today on supply chain. we have been hearing so much about that issue. the president saying he's taking some additional steps including trying to reduce some of the time constraints and red tape at ports, asking other world leaders to do the same to kind of gets the flow of goods moving. of course most of the issues in the supply chain are private sector, but governments can play a role. there's a lot of nitty gritty here when it comes to these face-to-face meetings and issues that have been worked on at levels lower than the heads of
state for many months coming into these sessions and then there's the personal relationships, the chance to try to deal with thorny problems, to deal with some relationships that needed repair like the u.s./france relationship with the president saying it was clumsy, how they handled the nuclear submarine deal that involved an affected france. there's been a lot on his plate and we're not done. leaving rome former for the president heading to scotland where climate will be the big issue. we know he came here without the agreement he wantd on climate, fully signed and sealed and delivered back home with the biden agenda. the framework is there, but it's not locked up yet and democrats have been taking a very long time to try to get to the finish line, and it's not done yet. that's something the president wanted and didn't yet have. there's a lot to talk about that he certainly feels he can present to other leaders as a sign of u.s. leadership on this
and some specific proposals, but he didn't have it quite nailed down. this chance to talk to the president about all of these issues, the relationships, the policies, the politics, it will be an important news conference and a chance to really hear what the president has been thinking and what's been happening behind the scenes that we haven't seen, alex. >> 100%. if by chance congress is able to vote on those two huge bills and get it passed on tuesday, that would be something in terms of the wind being at the president's back as he comes back to the united states on wednesday. certainly something for him to tout that kind of accomplishment. to you, courtney, because we have not heard a lot from the president during this trip. i mean, snip he pets here and there. how do you expect him to sum up his g-20 meetings? >> i think it's important to remember it's hard to untangle the u.s. domestic dynamic here from the international stage right now. all eyes are on washington. i think the president also is
looking home to see how this is going to shake out, and, you know, this is a president who early in his presidency said this is a battle between the utility of democracies in the 21st center and autocracies that we need to prove that democracy works. i think the threat, the theme and what he needs to thread the needle on is unity with european allies and also at home. i think whether democracy works, the divisions at home is undercutting that message right now or at least raising questions. it's important for him to come out of these meetings showing unity, finding cooperation on bigger issues like supply chains as we saw him do earlier, like china, easing trade wars which, again, we saw the announcement on tariffs. >> absolutely. adrien, i was referencing this with kelly, the president left for rome without the vote, but
now that the vote is scheduled two days on tuesday before he leaves glasgow, how big a deal is it for the president to get these bills passed now before he takes off on air force one for sfwhaug. >> you know, look, alex, what's important is we have a framework in place. that may change a little bit, but i think him being able to go overseas with the framework, going into glasgow, to cop26, with a commitment to climate change like we've never had in the united states, is very important. he can go to glasgow, he can go into the summit and say, this piece of legislation that it contains these historic climate change measures, is going to pass. so i think that's very important. you know, but look, i laugh sometimes about, you know, this back and forth, he hasn't passed the agenda yet, it's taken a long time. these things take time. he is still in the first year of his presidency and look, alex, he could have taken the easy way
out, put together a simple hard infrastructure bill focusing on roads, bridges and highways and gotten that passed by itself without thig focus on this social safety net bill that, of course, provides a number of measures from extending the child tax credit to expanding pre-k. he could have gone the easy way, but instead knew the american people desperately needed these programs. he took a much harder route and when you take a harder route it's going to take longer but ultimately what matters is he's going to pass these two bills, the passage of the two bills is going to be imminent and we're going to see real change on behalf of the american people thanks to president biden. >> i'm curious, ben, last question for the moment to you, because according to kelly's reporting and we're confirming that as well, we don't think this news conference will start on time, start closer to the top of the hour, but the president is doing a balancing act between domestic issues and international issues. how fine a line is that for him to walk? what are the challenges they're in?
you know from being an inside in an administration, that's tough. big issues, this is not easy. >> yeah. i mean every single trip that i remember i went on every one of president obama's foreign trips these press conferences end up being dominated by the domestic politics back home. there you are on the world stage working on thesically cated issues, a break through on tariffs with the europeans, a long time coming, and people will want to ask about your domestic agenda and you have to accept that's part of the deal here. in the same way, by the way, you have to accept that as you're focused on your domestic agenda, there are a lot of issues around the world that demand the attention of the president of the united states. what is useful about this g-20 which is generally focused on the economy and then glasgow on climate change, these are things overlapping in terms of domestic and foreign policy. that deal with the european allows on steel tariffs will improve our relationship with europe which will be useful on issues that have to do with iran where we want europe's cooperation or china.
it's important to american workers and he can sell this as something both a foreign and domestic policy. same thing on climate change he will want to present all that spending in the build back better bill for clean energy and not run on fossil fuels. that's an environmental policy to present at glasgow. i'm sure what he's going to be saying is, all of that clean energy investment will create jobs in the united states. you have to find a way to talk about your agenda that makes it relevant to americans back home and makes it possible get things done on the world stage. i think he's going to be wanting to signal that clearly in this press conference. >> agree with you. so ben, adrian, courtney, kelly, again this news conference has been pushed back a bit. we're going to take a short break and we might get in some other news, but if you guys can stick around and if it gets under way we will come back to this panel as well. meantime thank you all. again, that's what we're awaiting, everyone. president biden's news conference at the g-20 and bring
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once again we're keeping a close eye on that podium in rome where the president is going to have a news conference following that g-20 summit that is wrapped up before he heads to glasgow to the cop26 summit. let's talk about former president donald trump under fire again after he was caught on camera doing that controversial tomahawk chop with
the atlanta brave fans at game four of the world series last night. once again, to nbc's vaughn hillyard who has more from atlanta. i'm curious the backlash that you've heard about or witnessed after the former president's actions. what's it been like? he was not alone in that stadium. it looked like 35,000, 40,000 people were joining him in that tomahawk chop. >> right. the maximum capacity here is over 40,000, alex, and last night was game four, tonight game five and the atlanta braves have a chance to clinch a world series victory tonight in atlanta, but last night there was the former president, he was seated in a suite quite a ways down the first base line, never shown on the jumbo tron, but at the same time, when the tomahawk chop started, you saw the former president join right in. there's been a lot of pushback here. this is an ins sensitive, racist, tomahawk chop here. it is not native american song or a native american chant, but
instead it's a hollywood stereotype of native americans, yet it's been in play here for more than 30 years inside the braves ballpark here. seven months ago this was a former president that told the world that former president that said to boycott mlb. after the georgia state legislature signed into law by the governor passed the measures into place here but as you saw last night the president decided that he'd make the way here. of course, one year ago he lost georgia by just over 1 1,000 votes. >> you said something. he was never seen on the jumbotron. that has to be calculated by the atlanta braves area. anyone that saw the secret
secret service knew he was there. was there a discussion as to why that was? >> reporter: no. still waiting word back exactly from the mlb. same time there's throughout the game you saw the former karate kid actor welcomed by the organization and the fans cheered. some former braves players announced and cheered and the former president was not sitting with any firms or ownership. >> interesting. okay. let us know when you hear back. thank you so much. we are awaiting president biden's news conference at the g20. very short break here on msnbc. i don't know. i think they look good, man.
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on camera since the deadly shooting. the actor, he's also producer there refusing to address the investigation but describing the hutchens as a friend. nbc is in los angeles with the details on what the actor is saying. emily, to you. >> reporter: after being followed by photographers a frustrated alec baldwin spoke out hoping the four-minute conversation to grant him space from the attention. the actor/producer says he doesn't think they'll resume production on the movie "rust." >> she was my friend. she was my friend. >> reporter: alec baldwin on camera for the first time since the shooting in new mexico. >> i'm not allowed to make any comments because it's an ongoing investigation. i have been ordered by the sheriff's department in santa fe. i can't answer any questions about the investigations. i can't. >> reporter: the 63-year-old beside his wife telling
photographers the production will not continue. calling the tragic death of the cinematographer 1 in a trillion. >> there are incidental accidents on film sets from time to time. but nothing like this. this is a 1 in a trillion episode. >> reporter: sharing the concern for hutchens' family saying he talked repeatedly with her husband. >> he is in shock. he has a 9-year-old son. we are very worried about his family and his kid. as i said we're eagerly awaiting for the sheriff's department to tell us what the investigation yielded. >> reporter: at times intense and awkward. baldwin shooing his wife away. >> do me a favor? i'm going to answer a question. >> reporter: he fired the deadly shot after handed a prop gun mistakenly with a real bullet
inside. still baldwin defending the production. >> we were a very, very well-oiled crew shooting a film together and then this horrible event happened. >> reporter: in sharp contrast to what others recalled. some crew members walked offset over safety concerns but they said we were not made aware of any complaint on set. baldwin looking at a broader change in the industry. >> so what has to happen now is we have to realize that when it does go wrong some new measures have to take place. no real -- that's not for me to decide. it is urgent for you to understand i'm not an expert in
this field. i'm all in favor of it. i will cooperate in any way i can. >> reporter: parting with this plea for privacy. >> my kids are in the car crying. >> reporter: you heard him call her a friend. she will be laid to rest later today. >> thank you for that. that's a wrap for me. i'll see you again next saturday noon eastern. our coverage continues in a moment. we'll bring you the president's news conference. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need
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