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hey there, everyone. good day from msnbc headquarters here in new york. we're approaching high noon here. welcome to "alex witt reports." we begin in rome where in just a couple of minutes, president biden will be leading an event focused on the supply chain crisis in just one of the several critical meetings the president is holding with world leaders today. this morning, secretary of state antony blinken touting the administration's progress. >> what i'm seeing here in rome is a deep appreciation for american reengagement, american leadership, and it's making a huge difference on issues that are actually going to have an impact on the lives of americans. we're on the same page with our closest allies and partners. >> meantime, back in washington, a vote on both the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and the
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$1.75 trillion social spending bill on tuesday, but over on the senate side, it hardly appears to be a done deal. >> we want to move both bills in tandem, and the second bill, the bill that deals with the needs of the working class of this country in terms of pre-k, that deals with the existential threat of climate, that bill is still being worked on literally today. it will be worked on tomorrow. and this comes as president biden desperately needs a win. new polling out today from nbc news shows his approval rating is at its lowest point so far, down 7 points since august with 71% of americans saying this country is moving in the wrong direction. plus, a travel note. american airlines canceled more than 600 flight today. that is 12% of its total operations. it happened due to severe weather and staffing shortages. the airline has now canceled more than 1,500 flights since
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friday. for events unfolding in washington and overseas, welcome to you both. michael, you first here. a day of critical meetings for the president. walk us through it all. >> reporter: yeah, alex. for president biden, this is a day in which he's trying to showcase the way in which our alliances can help really while he's overseas meet some of the tough economic challenges we're facing back at home, especially as you talk about inflation and some of these supply chain issues. later this hour, if the president is running on schedule, and we know that's a big if, he's convening a meeting of the g20 with ten of our allies to talk about some of the ways we're working together to deal with these bottlenecks and we're working to make some announcements. he's talking about building up the stockpiles at home, and materials for products like cell phones and other technological needs here in the u.s., but we also saw earlier today, the president participating in a meeting with the eu commissioner to talk about the easing of a trade war between the countries,
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two entities i should say. that was launched under president trump. the white house, president biden agreeing tie low in greater amounts of european steel, and in return pausing some of the tariffs that were said to double, in fact, on american bourbon and motorcycles. president biden arguing this has a climate impact as well. take a listen to how the president presented this deal earlier today. >> it ensures strong competitive steel industry for decades to come and creates good-paying union jobs at home. and -- and demonstrates how by harnessing our diplomatic and economic power, we can reject the false idea that we can't grow our economy and support american workers while tackling the climate crisis. we can do all three of those things. >> reporter: now, alex, in the category of tough diplomacy, the president having a meeting as well with the president of turkey in that conversation. we didn't hear much from the
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president on the front end, but in a very carefully worded statement afterwards, we saw the president raise the issue of human rights, talked about the turkey cooperation on issues, and also the u.s. concern about turkey continuing with a military contract that has to do with a russian missile system. remember, turkey is a nato ally. we don't like to necessarily see them cooperating militarily with russia. now another big focus today has to do with the climate crisis, the italian prime minister talking about how -- no matter how high the cost of what countries need to do in order to meet the needs of the climate crisis, it's not too high a cost to pay considering what could happen. this is all, of course, a ramp up to where the president is heading next, of course, tomorrow, on his way to scotland to be part of that top 26 climate summit as part of a busy week overseas here for the president. >> thank you so much for that, mike. let's go to julie sirkan.
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tell us what's going on behind the scenes. it sounds like it's not a done deal. >> reporter: that's right. far from a deal. yesterday, house progressives signaled that they were open to this new accelerated timeline, that ambitious plan house democratic leadership wants now to vote on the bipartisan bill, and that $1.5 trillion build back better plan. we haven't heard a peep from holdouts manchin and sinema, and bernie sanders speaking out this morning for the first time since this new timeline was announced not sounding very optimistic on cnn. watch. >> i think there has got to be a framework agreed upon in the senate that all of us know is going to be implemented before the members of the house vote. yes, i do. look. i, you know, we have 50 people that are not yet on board. this is not easy stuff, but what we are trying to do is put
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together the most consequential piece of legislation in the modern history of this country which will transform the role of government in protecting the needs of working families. >> reporter: he was asked several times whether senator manchin told him that he supports this legislation, and senator bernie sanders just couldn't say. the budget chairman also frustrated because key pieces of his agenda, things he wanted and other progressives wanted like medicare expansion for vision and dental, like lowering prescription drug prices, those are currently not in the bill, and that also takes me to my next point, this new poll out from abc and ipsos which says that most americans, 69% either know very little or not much, just some of what's in this bill, suggesting that democrats have failed to communicate what's in it, but i'll note because it's been changing so much for the last several weeks, what's actually written in pen on paper is different from what democrats originally wanted to see in their original price tag of $3.5 trillion package.
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now shrunken down to just $1.75 trillion, and i'll also note really quickly if they want to make adds to it, it will creep the price tag higher and manchin doesn't want anything above $1.5 trillion. >> you made a good point because it is hard to explain everything that is in the bill which they most definitely need to do, and very thoroughly, and if the bill is not completely done yet, point well taken. thank you for that. joining me right now is washington governor jay inslee. it's so good to speak with you. i'm glad you're here for a number of reasons. let's start with this one as we have the president about to host that supply chain meeting at the g20 in about ten minutes or so if he's on time, that's where leaders are expected to discuss the short-term disruptions and long-term resilience as well to them. how about the people of washington? how are they being impacted by supply chain issues and how is washington state handling its supply chain deficits? what needs to be done to fix them? >> i would just like to say with
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infinite patience, but we don't always have infinite patience in these circumstances. the president is doing what he can do. this is an international worldwide phenomena, and no one president can solve this problem. he's doing what we can do, which is to try to make sure we hire and train people and supply the pipeline of people to work in the supply chain, and we're doing that. one of the things they're working on to provide child care, the reconciliation bill, so that, you know, people can return to work, particularly women so they can return to work and we can reduce the shortage of people in these industries, to provide health care for them so they can be secure to return to these industries. so we are doing these things. we wish they could be doing 24 hours. it makes these things work, and we're providing infrastructure as fast as humanly possible, but actually the most important thing i think we can do is to allow people to return to work by providing them support so they can do so, and i think the
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reconciliation bill is going to help do those things. >> yeah. let me drill down to one specific example here. according to aaa, the average price of a regular gallon of gas in washington state, your state right now is $2.87. according to gas buddy, in november of last year, it was $2.66. how much are you putting inflation with the supply chain issue and the way it's affecting residents in washington? are these numbers higher because of the supply chain issue, and to your point earlier, really covid? >> well, this is, you know, major economics and a large discussion of gas prices and they go up and down. here's what i think we should do. we should free people of my state from addiction to oil and gas. we shouldn't have to pay gas. the price of our fuel, of gas should be zero because we should ultimately stop using it, and that's what we're going to do in
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washington state. we are weaning ourselves off the slavery of addiction to gas and we're going to electricity, and that is extremely cheaper than gas and oil and that's what we're doing with some of our climate change measures to end in the reconciliation bill which will help washingtonians to get access to cars and charging stations to get off gasoline. i don't want to be addicted to this and have saudi arabia dictating to us anymore, and we're doing that. this is a transition that's happening very quickly. ford is making an all electric f-150. every automobile manufacturer you now see is advertising electric cars. this is happening very, very quickly, and it can't happen quickly enough so we don't have to ride the roller coaster. >> speaking of the ford 150, that is the most popular car in the whole country. ford is making that commitment, and there you have it. let me ask you about the president's build back better agenda. what do you think of the
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framework that has been presented and how it will affect the economy and specifically the residents in washington state? >> i look at this in historical perspective. if people said two years ago that we would be able to pass something with such major investments for families, for working people, for the effort against climate change, people would have said you were smoking some cheap stuff. this is an incredible achievement if we can get this through major, major movements forward. there's many things to celebrate in this. i think the climate change investments, you know, over $500 billion to try to give americans access to electric cars and cheaper electricity. i think over time what we've seen is the most important thing historically to save us from being doomed to climate change, and people are going to say, well, we didn't get some of the regulatory measures we would have liked, but this is a major step forward, and i'm very, very pleased about it. it's the largest expansion of assistance to families and working people since medicare,
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and it's a huge achievement. now the plane hasn't landed yet. >> right. >> we're in the sausage-making phase, and you're right. people don't know what's in this bill, but i think ultimately people will be pleased that they got help with child care and medical care, and i think the president will have a story to tell in glasgow partly because he has the states, and i lead a group called the climate alliance, and that's 26 states, and we have committed to the goals that will be talked about at glasgow, and so the states are going to be having a great stair to tell in glasgow as well. so i think we're heading in the right direction. >> we're going to get to one question about climate change in a second, but not to be debbie downer here. a couple of things missing from the framework, paid family leave, free community college. those and other issues, what do you think will be most missed by washington state residents? >> listen. we have paid family leave in our
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state, and other states do as well, and again, this is a role to play where states can move forward, where the federal government was ham strung by the filibuster which we need to get rid of by the way if we want to get this job done. that's the next job item to move forward on. these are important things. you can't overstate the importance of all the things that have got done. i don't know. when i get up on christmas morning and i open up 25 presents and when my grandkids open up 25 presents, they don't say, where's the pony? they thank me for the bikes and everything else, and this is what we're celebrating. >> that is a very good attitude. i appreciate that. there is a new u.n. report that we are literally running out of time to limit global warming. again, this is a passion of yours, this issue. this report says the latest plans to tackle climate change over the next decade fall short of what's needed to ward off rising temperatures, and that report came after another one
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from the u.s. intelligence agencies warning climate change could spark instability and conflict around the world calling it a national security issue. these reports are what is shaping this global climate summit as a make or break moment for the planet. that statement, "make or break moment". is that how you see it? is that what's at stake? >> you cannot overstate the depth of this crisis, and i really think that we need two things now to fight this crisis. number one, we have -- we need to have a sense of imagination to really understand what we're facing. it's very difficult to imagine a different world, one where we don't have forests. one where our shorelines are inundated and we get hit by floods. it's hard to imagine, but we got a taste of that last summer, where all across the united states, california, oregon, totally ablaze. my brother-in-law drove home
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through california and he said, you can't drive through california and not see the disaster of climate change now. same thing with floods. same thing with the heat and the drought. we lost, you know, hundreds of people because of the heat this year. so we've got a taste of what the future is, but it is just a taste of the looming, unfortunately, disaster movie that we face. but number two, what we need is a sense of optimism that we can bring these new technologies to bear, to grow jobs and grow economic growth in our country and our state because we're doing it. it's interesting i told you about those 25 states that are part of the u.s. climate alliance. we have adopted measures that go quite a bit beyond what will happen in the reconciliation bill. we have a cap on carbon throughout our economy in washington state. we have a commitment, to 100% clean electrical grid. we have the largest economic growth, some of the largest economic growth in these states
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that have adopted these measures. so this is a moment to really understand that we need to adopt both an understanding of the criticality of this, and a can-do attitude, and in glasgow, you're going to see that. you're going to see states and i'm leading a group called the super nationals. that's the states and cities and counties that connect with even more ambition and you'll hear that in glasgow, and it will be good news. >> i really enjoyed this conversation. i like the way you think, governor of washington. jay inslee, it's very good to see you. come see me any time. >> thank you. happy halloween. >> and to you. next, new polling on the battle of virginia, and voters go to the polls and it may determine the outcome. also about the investigation into the attack on the capitol. new revelations about a so-called war room, what happened there? i'll talk about that with "the washington post's" robert acosta coming up. hey, robert.
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. less than 48 hours from virginia's gubernatorial election in roanoke college poll shows, and they're neck and neck. the candidates scrambling to make their final pitches. >> you look what i'm proposing and taking virginia to the next level. youngkin is on the other side. youngkin would destroy our economy. he's so divisive. he's ended his campaign on a racist dogwhistle, on banning the book. >> people have never endorsed republicans before, and they endorsed me and they endorsed terry mcauliffe last time. this is about all of a sudden a big statement about what it really means to bring people together. >> let's go now to chris jansing. you're meeting with the red wine and blue group, suburban women raiing awareness on the issues that matter to them. what do they tell you?
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>> reporter: let's start with the big picture because what's worrying them and brought them out today is the same thing that has democrats nervous which is that this is such an incredibly close race. now democrats got what should be good news for them given that early voting is important to terry mcauliffe and the democrats. we just got late numbers in that early voting that ended yesterday brought 1,142,000 plus people. it's critical to any success that terry mcauliffe might have. they got about 6,000 voters at just 3 polling sites. there's that, and then take a look at that latest poll from roanoke college that came out in the last 24. a one-point race within the margin of error. what that says is this is anyone's race to win or lose. that brings us back to sterling where they're going to be doing what the sign says. power walk for power. they're going to be canvassing, going out door to door. among them, holly. thank you for being with us. >> good to be here.
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>> a lot of these women enjoying red wine and blue after donald trump was elected. not so you. >> i have been doing it for a long time. i was canvassing for jimmy carter. >> hard to believe. >> i was very young. >> it is hard though in off season elections to get people fired up. what brought you out? >> well, you know, i think that this is the most consequential statewide election of my lifetime. >> why? >> usually democrats and republicans are arguing about the issues. they're arguing about policy and facts, but in this election and a few before, we're arguing about our facts and their fantasy, and so when you're going to voters and talking about climate change, and people don't believe in climate change. people don't believe about education, and there's misrepresentations about education, and we don't have the same facts anymore as you hear all over, and so i hear that canvassing is just a really powerful tool because you can get to the door. you're a person and you're
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talking one-on-one, and somebody that they can stand there, and talk about the things that they've heard, and i can hopefully correct some of the misunderstandings, and i find when voters listen to what the facts are, they are going to go democrat. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. by the way, they're hoping for the mcauliffe team to get 350,000 door knocks just this weekend. they did 200,000 yesterday. the youngkin team says they have groups of parents who are getting out. so the candidates too, about 15 appearances today. a big final push in this race that's too close to call, alex. >> 100%. can i say holly doesn't look like she was of drinking age with red wine and blue back in 1976 canvassing for jimmy carter? you can tell her we said so. >> reporter: agreed. >> thank you so much, chris. turning from this week's election to last year's election, the conversation about january 6th continue to emerge, and bannon had a conversation on
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his podcast. the men implied it would be then-vice president mike pence who would decide the election winner. >> are we to assume that this is going to be a climactic battle that will take place and question the constitutionality of 1877? >> i think a lot of that depends on the courage and the spine of the individuals involved. >> joining me now is robert costa, co-author of the book "peril" alongside bob woodward. i know you tweeted about the hotel being a war room in the days before the attack on the capitol. tell us what happened there, and why it was so important. >> reporter: bob woodward and i found during the course of our reporting and we detail it in our book that the war room was the command center for rudy giuliani, steve bannon and others on the eve of the
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insurrection, january 5, 2021. one of our most important findings in the book is president trump called into this war room to talk to bannon and giuliani on the 5th after vice president pence left the white house. pence had resisted trump's pleas to try to move the election into the house of representatives. so you see in our book, a coordination of sorts, a communication between the white house, its own political command center and this outside command center at the willard. >> yeah. pretty extraordinary actually the details from the book, but let's turn to what was happening during the attack. your paper reported an an email exchange between john eastman and an aide in which eastman wrote, quote, the siege is because you and your boss did not do what was necessary. to allow this to be aired in a public way so that the american people can see for themselves what happened and that's referring to trump's claims of voter fraud, and again, this was happening during the siege. i find it so interesting that
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maybe it wasn't just a peaceful march and maybe it wasn't just as andrew clyde called it just normal tourist day at the capitol. it was a siege in terms of john eastman and what he described. that said, what does this tell us about the pressure that mike pence was under to overturn this election? >> that email exchange reported by "the washington post" was between greg jacob, pence's lawyer and john eastman. that was not just an isolated exchange. as our reporting shows, john eastman circulates his memo which we recovered, and what many people are calling a blueprint for a cue coup de tas. many people come into the oval office and meet with pence and trump, and he said, listen to john. listen to john. listen to his argument. you have the power. trump tries again on january
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5th. eastman is doing his own work and he continues to talk to pence's team, including on the 6th. >> i just want to confirm. he was talking during the siege, on the 6th while mike pence was potentially hearing chants of the maraders in the capitol saying, hang mike pence? that's what was going on as he was literally hiding for his life? >> it's not just eastman who's reacting like that. it's eastman interacting with greg jacob, pence's lawyer, being disappointed by pence's conduct. you also see president trump. trump, he's in the oval office and confronting keith kellogg. pence is in trouble at the capitol and trump keeps watching television, as almost an idle person as this insurrection unfolds, and yet trump of course, had been very aggressive in pushing pence in the days prior. >> just extraordinary when you explain it like that. hey, robert, stay with me for just a moment. president biden right now has
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taken to the podium over there at the g20 meeting. he is talking about supply chain issues. stay with me. take a listen, everyone. >> during this pandemic, we've seen delays and backlogs of goods from automobiles to electronics from shoes to furniture. ending the pandemic is the ultimate key to unlocking the disruptions that i'll continue with, but we have to take action now. together with our partners in the private sector to reduce the backlogs that we're facing, and then we have to prevent this from happening again in the future. now that we have seen how vulnerable these lines of global commerce can be, we cannot go back to business as usual. this pandemic won't be the last global health crisis we face. we also need to increase our resilience in the face of
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climate change, natural disasters, and even planned attacks. many of our supply chains are almost entirely owned and operated by the private sector, but government can play a key role identifying supply chain risks and bringing the different pieces and actors together to address these vulnerabilities. in the united states, my administration is focused on this from our earliest days of the administration which is not that long ago, just january 20th of this year. in february, we began directing new investments to strengthen supply chains at home and to work with partners to bolster supply chains around the world. last month, we launched an early warning system to help get ahead of the global supply chain disruptions from -- for computer
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chips which impacts so many industries in my country and all of yours. just a few weeks ago, we were able to facilitate an agreement with key unions, retailers and freight movers to begin operating two of the largest ports in the united states that account for 40% of the imports on the west coast. the port of los angeles and the port of long beach, california. so we got them to move from five days a week, eight hours a day to 24 hours a day, and 7 days a week. i'm going to help get -- it's going to help get goods on the shelves faster and build back better framework provides for the first time, funding dedicated to monitoring and strengthening the supply chains. today i'm announcing two further
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steps. first, additional funding to help american partners as well as the united states cut port congestion by slashing red tape, and reducing processing times so that ships can get in and out of our ports faster. second, i'm signing an executive order that will strengthen our management of the united states defense stockpiles for minerals and materials. it will allow us to react and respond for quickly to shortfalls in the industrial base. i urge all of you, all of you to consider bolstering your stockpiles critical to national security in your countries, but like so many challenges today, it isn't a problem any one of our nations can solve through unilateral actions. coordination is the key, the
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reason for this meeting. the best way to reduce current delays in building better resilience for the future is to work together across the entire supply chain from raw materials to warehousing and distribution. our supply chain should be one, diversified so that we're not dependent on any one single source that might cause a failure, secure, secure against natural and manmade threats including cybercriminal attacks like ransomware, and transparent so that both government and the private sector can better anticipate and respond to shortages that may be coming down the pipe, and sustainable so ensure our supply chains are free from forced and child labor, supporting the dignity in the voice of workers and are in
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line with our climate goals because at the end of the day, supply chain resilience is really about all of our people. workers around the world who make the flow of goods possible. factory workers, dock workers, welders, shipping crews, truckers, child care providers, locomotives. so many other pieces. solving this is going to take all of us. government and private industry, labor unions and research institutions. so i'm directing my secretary of state -- secretaries of state and commerce to chair a multistate reform beginning next year to bring all these key parties together with relevant officials from all of our governments to chart a path forward. i look forward to hearing from each of you in finding ways we can work together to increase
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our resilience and enhance our prosperity. i'll turn it over to secretary blinken to actually make sure the trains run on time here. >> we'll see what our secretary of state has to say about all of this, with you having listened there to the president making a couple of good points, and let's get that re-enforcement of what he said from mike memoli. what is the intention of joe biden and leading this meeting? >> reporter: as we have been talking about the way some of the president's domestic political challenges have really followed him overseas, you see the president trying to showcase in which working with our allies can deal with him. the supply chain issue is really probably at the top of the list as well as inflation, and so the white house in concert with what we just heard from the president
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is announcing executive actions and decisions he has taken in order to deal with these. first of all, heye going to be cutting some red tape. he's working with a group of our asia-pacific allies to sort of create a more centralized hub of exports in which goods and services can be coming from and to a specific region. it does include china, and singapore. this is yet another example of the president sort of trying to harness the power of our allies against china specifically. he's also authorized the defense department to release from their national domestic stockpile, some of the raw materials that are especially important that relates to this. think of the oil reserve. sometimes the governments will tap on that, and try to lower costs a little bit. this is a similar tactic doing with raw materials and he's asking his secretary of state and his secretary of commerce to
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call a summit next year that will include both the private skter and the public sector working with our allies to try to identify some of the challenges over the long-term, but ultimately, alex, you heard the president say that a lot of this has to do with ultimately the way out, is when the pandemic is over, so many challenges the president is dealing with here is a fact that the demand on a number of fronts is back to where it was, but supplies hasn't caught up. >> jay inslee of washington had that conversation with me earlier in in hour and he said, people have got to be patient. thank you so much. appreciate it. biden's poll numbers and what the build back better plan, i'll ask congresswoman maxine waters about this next. ask con waters about this next ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark.
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many democrats in congress are spending this sunday on the phone negotiating down to the wire on president biden's build back better agenda. they're hoping to vote tuesday on both infrastructure and social spending bills, and joining me now, congresswoman maxine waters, democrat from california and chair of the financial services committee, congresswoman, welcome back to the broadcast. always good to have you. so this does not -- >> thank you. >> -- look like a done deal as far as your fellow progressives are concerned. can this happen by tuesday, and why tuesday? that day s there anything political about that deadline? >> well, let me just say i'm a
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lot more optimistic than some who think that it's not going to happen. it is going to happen. i don't know why tuesday is the deadline, but i do think the speaker wants to move this huge legislation, and so i do know that a lot of negotiations have been going on. a lot of problems have been solved, and a lot of interests have come together, and so i'm very optimistic, and i'm looking forward to getting back tomorrow, going to the rules committee, laying out my plan for housing, and others will be doing that, and i think we can make it by tuesday. >> well, that is very positive and very good to hear, certainly to try to put all of this to bed. lots of issues still out there. among them, senator bernie sanders talked earlier today about lowering prescription drug costs. that is not yet in the final bill. so if people are still negotiating, and no one gets the time to look over the final draft -- because i mean, this
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thing is, like, 1,000 pages, right? it's extraordinary how big this is. would it be fair to ask votes to vote on tuesday? >> well, let me say this. despite the fact that all the information that we're involved with does not get out to the press on a daily basis, i want you to know we have caucus meetings. we have round table meetings. we have all kind of meetings that are going on all day every day where members understand what's going on, they're having their input. they're having their say, and so a lot has been accomplished and, you know, when you look from the outside and you don't understand, you know, how it all operates all of these meetings that are taking place, you think perhaps not enough is being done or it's not moving fast enough. an epsilon is being done. i do believe that we're not able
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to get everything into build back better that we would like to have in it, but it is a tremendous piece of legislation, and i want to tell you that a lot of families are going to benefit from this legislation. it's going to stimulate our economy, and people are going to be very pleased when they take a look at what has been done with education, with child care, with pre-kindergarten and all of these issues and all of my housing that i put into the bill. $150 billion in efforts to deal with the housing issues. i think people are going to be very pleased. >> well, good, but what? you mean, you don't tell the media every single thing you're doing all the time? i'm just kidding. let's talk about bernie sanders also adding to the conversation earlier that, yes, there has to be a framework from the senate before house members vote. so are you concerned at all about whether senators manchin and sinema could still throw
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something of a monkey wrench into the passing of this agenda? >> well, i think we must all be concerned based on what has happened in the past as we have been involved with negotiations. yes, the two of them have certainly indicated that they don't support a lot of what we were attempting to do. they certainly did not support the top line, and that's what put us back to about $1.79 trillion, and so there's still some open questions about what they will, and what they will not support. so i don't think we can take this lightly. i do think progress has been made, and i'm hoping that it's enough progress so that we can get this bill to the president's desk. >> a couple of quick questions about 2022. first of all, how much will the passage presumably of the build back better bill help in 2022 in the midterms for the democrats, and how much will redistricting
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across this country hurt democrats? >> well, let me just say that of course, everything that you do particularly, you know, in a time like this is extremely important, and i do not negate the fact that it could have -- play an important role with the elections, but i think that democrats in particular are going to remember the american rescue plan, the cares act, the support that we gave to those that were unemployed, the appropriations that we did for the homeless situation. a lot of what we have done is not going to be forgotten, and the more that you do, the more it is appreciated. so it may play some role, but i don't think it's the only thing that we need to hang our hats on. we need to tell the story. we need to message it. we need to let people know that we're there with the stimulus checks that we put out.
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we're there with, you know, continuing to support the child tax credit, and so we've done so much, and this president has provided such great leadership in this build back better effort. i don't think all of that's going to be forgotten, and decisions are going to be made just on this one piece of legislation. i think people will be appreciative not only for what we have done as we have dealt with this pandemic and the stimulus package that we put together, but they'll also appreciate what we're able to do with this $1.9 trillion or so, that we're going to put out. >> maxine waters, always good to see you and especially with that great, iconic griffith park observatory backdrop behind you. good to see a little bit of home behind you. thank you so much. >> you're so welcome. thank you. all righty. from the high stakes in virginia to the president's big gamble on capitol hill, my sunday panel takes control, don, susan,
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it's a very busy sunday as we follow as we follow stories both here and abroad. in rome, president biden facing a number of critical meetings while in dc, new polls show his approval rating sank to 42%. virginia is two days away from the high stakes governor's election which is neck and neck. in atlanta, donald trump doing the controversial tomahawk chop at last night's world series game while pushing to hide hundreds of documents from investigators on capitol hill. joining me now, my sunday family, don callaway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund. susan del percio, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. and our birthday boy, david
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jolly, former congressman from florida and msnbc political contributor. i will spare you the indignity of singing "happy birthday." a spin of wheel of sorts, each of you gets to pick your topic of those i presented and give me your expert opinions. birthday boy, you first. >> all right, i'll take the g20, specifically as it relates to climate, alex, because i think this is an interesting moment for joe biden and the four years ahead of him, which is this. we have approached climate as this existential crisis where we have these inflection points, where we've moved a dramatic amount of resources towards climate. that's a good thing. the greatest legacy joe biden might leave after his administration is done is to have moved climate to equal parity with defense, transportation, energy, whatever it my be. let the voter mindset as we approach this climate science issue pivot so we realize these
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are annual investments we need to make to transform our economy and transform our commitment to climate. >> susan, how about you, what's your topic top of mind? >> top of mind is the new nbc poll that came out with some very tough news for president biden, with an approval/disapproval at 42/54. being in the low 40s as an approval number is very difficult to come out of now because the country is so polarized. these numbers are really concerning for joe biden, which is also why it's difficult, as i'm sure someone else will pick up on, the virginia governor's race, having that draw on the ticket. the thing i'm interested in right now is seeing that he's not doing well with independents.
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only right now 70% think the country is not going in the right direction. and even 48% of democrats think the country is not going in the right direction. they've got to it this deal done. i think the reason why they want it done on tuesday, you asked congresswoman maxine waters earlier, is just in case that terry mcauliffe loses the virginia race, because they need some good news. they need a win. >> okay. don? >> you know, all of the above. i'm worried about joe biden's approval rating, and for three reasons. first of all, he sold himself to a lot of moderate democrats and also republicans who voted for him as a guy who could stabilize this thing and most important get things done. things aren't stable or getting done. progressives aren't too happy with him right now because of all the things that aren't in the bill. progressives didn't come out and motivate themselves to vote to get roads and bridges.
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they wanted to see free community college, medical leave. those aren't in the bill. so you're losing progressives going into the midterms. and third, the american people in general don't know what's in the bill. joe biden is still my man but i'm looking for him to find and secure a base. right now he doesn't have much of a home within moderate circles or progressives. >> to that point, and i think i said this to maxine waters as well, the bill has not been finalized. it's hard to communicate what everyone can expect from this bill, so you have to give him a little bit there. governor ainsley said people have to pack their patience, i remember think, that's not something people like to do. to your point, totally agree, it has to be communicated so clearly, so thoroughly, so that everybody understands how their lives will benefit on the other side of this bill if it passes. david, back to you. take another topic. >> atlanta braves. alex, as a former atlanta braves season ticket holder, it's time that franchise goes the way of
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the washington redredskins, the cleveland indians. drop the chop in 2021. >> susan, anything about the 1/6 investigation and the trove of documents donald trump is trying to keep from getting access to the investigation? >> that's a great topic, alex, i would love to talk about it. it is very interesting to see what donald trump is doing right now. he's doing a combination of, obviously, wanting to hide the truth, but also this is a delay tactic. this is something he always to say. don, david, and i have talked about the reasons he sues and why he fund raises and everything else. but this is something that's very concerning for the 1/6 commission in that this lawsuit could keep things dragging out. i think we need to get more and more information and everyone needs to be held accountable. >> last quick word to you, don, on that or something else.
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>> g20 was this week. joe biden would have been great to go over there with an aggressive agenda. but you've got cop26, the global climate summit, next week in glasgow. i really wish he was going over there with an agenda to broadly subsidize nonfossil fuels, biomass, renewable fuels. and go a&m. >> and none of us are going to sing. >> alex, i have a date with a 2-year-old little girl dressed at minnie mouse. >> that's the best date ever. thank you so much, we'll see you next weekend. alec baldwin speaks out on camera for the first time since that movie setting shooting. considering the sheriff told him not to talk about the investigation, he actually spoke a lot about the tragedy.
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a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome to "alex witt reports." democrats are going down to the wire to hammer out the last details of president biden's build back better agenda. they're hoping to vote tuesday on infrastructure and social spending. for president biden, the timing is becoming more

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