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thanks for being with us this hour. i'm alicia menendez. this hour, trump's effort to keep congress from seeing records tied to the january attack on our capitol. in moments, congressman adam schiff joins "american voices." what he believes trump doesn't want us to see. we'll dive into the congressman's new book issuing a warning about our democracy and a guide to protecting it. plus, a dead heat race for virginia governor in the final stretch. how do democrats turn out the base? steve kornacki on the counties to watch. later, the pain gap. sexism is in the world of medicine. it is deadly an author with the
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facts and lived experience to prove it. this is "american voices." we begin with the future of american democracy and why the threat against it today is all but new. in fact, a key sign came several years ago when this group of torch-bearing neo-nazis and white supremacists marched through charlottesville, virginia, to protest the removal of confederate statues. the year was 2017. the president was donald trump. until that moment, many americans believed these people you're seeing only existed in the shadows of society, not on the streets out in the open, loud and proud. you know what happened next? counterprotests ensued. that anger led to violence and an avowed neo-nazi plowed his car into heather heyer. hate that was on display again this week during opening statements in the federal civil trial against organizers of that unite the right rally. don't forget trump's response in 2017 that there were, quote,
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fine people on both sides. if charlottesville happened today, would we, the american people, be as shocked now as we were then? for the past four years, far-right violence has become more widespread in part because that same frustration and hate has been harnessed to help the gop hold on to power. if that was not true, would ted cruz have gotten away with what he did this week, defending parents who gave nazi salutes at school board meetings. would attendees at gop events dare ask questions like this? >> at this point we're living under corporate and medical fascism. this is tyranny. when do we get to use the guns? literally, wheres the line?
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how many elections they going to steal before we kill these people? >> if it's not at a rally, it's inside a courtroom. last week when the trial of kyle rittenhouse got under way, he's the teen accused of killing two unarmed protesters in an assault rifle in kenosha, wisconsin, during last summer's black lives matter protests. the judge won't allow the unarmed men who were gunned down to be called victims. and the violent right's favorite news outlet wasting no time jumping to his defense. >> how shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would? >> kyle rittenhouse has been villainized here. and he's been demonized and i think it should be just the opposite. >> this kid was trying to help people.
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were people killed? absolutely. but we don't know yet. you have a little boy trying to protect his community. >> a little boy trying to help people. sounds eerie similar to the attack on the capitol, that peaceful group encouraged to fight like hell by donald trump. new reporting in "the washington post" claiming as the vice president was hiding from attackers that day who were yelling to hang him, trump attorney john eastman emailed one of pence's top aides blaming pence for the attack, pressuring him to overturn the election session which may be why donald trump is fighting so hard to keep congress from his administration's records. court filings revealed this morning by the national archives show trump was trying to block call logs, drafts of remarks and speeches and handwritten notes from former chief of staff mark meadows from the january 6th committee. joining me now, one of the members of that committee, california congressman adam schiff.
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congressman schiff is also chair of the intelligence committee and the author of the new book "midnight in washington." thank you so much for your time tonight. as we just laid out, the january 6th attack, it didn't come out of nowhere. that's something you go to great lengths to detail in your book. how are the things we saw in charlottesville in 2017, in kenosha last summer related to what happened at the capitol on january 6th? >> well, the historian robert karo said power doesn't corrupt as much as it reveals. and power has revealed who a lot of the people in our government are. but it's also revealed a lot about the country, and bigotry that exited just below the surface has been given license to come out in the open. you have people like tucker carlson, as you played in that clip, actively advocating for people to arm themselves. and then you have others that are pushing this big lie around the country to encourage a whole new generation of jim crow laws
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to try to disenfranchise particularly people of color. it has revealed that ugly and systemic racism that's just below the surface of our society. on january 6th, i was there for the whole thing. seeing the footage of these insurrectionists with their confederate flags and their auschwitz t-shirts, it wasn't possible to separate that from the white nationalist insurrection that it was. >> today, congressman, we learned from a court filing that trump is trying to block congress from call logs and drafts from speeches, notes from mark meadows. trump calls the request for them a, quote, illegal fishing expedition, which i'm sure will not surprise you. but what do you think is in those records that he doesn't want you to see? >> well, look, he doesn't want us to succeed in showing the american people what went into that terrible insurrection, what
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his role was, what his expectation of violence was for that day, what their whole plan was if mike pence wouldn't do what they were trying to coerce him into doing, which is ignore his oath and the institution and overturn the election. look, donald trump's going to lose in litigation, as our brief lays out. we have a very powerful case. the current president of the united states, who has the dominant say in whether to assert privilege has said it's in the national interest not to assert privilege. but trump's whole goal is delay. we're going to work as expeditiously as we can to get answers because we want to legislate to protect the country, to prevent another insurrection from ever taking place. >> right. there will be talk about accountability and making sure this never happens moving forward. i do want to ask you overnight "the washington post" reported former vice president mike pence as he was hiding from the mob on january 6th, trump attorney john eastman emailed his top aide to say pence called the attack by refusing to block the election
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loss. benny thompson said this week the committee is seeking testimony from eastman. what direction does the news of his email and his possible testimony take your panel's investigation? >> i think it highlights the importance of his testimony and just the extraordinary lengths of that donald trump and those around him were willing to go to overturn the popular will of the american people, to overturn our election. we saw in the public reporting about efforts at the justice department by jeffrey clark and others to use that department to try to coerce georgia into withholding the appointment of electors or appointing a different set of electors, and now we are learn at the highest levels in the white house with the president's -- former president's lawyers representing his interest trying to even in the midst of this attack on the capitol get mike pence to violate the constitution and overturn the election. we want a right to report, to recommendations that will help
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protect the country going forward. and his testimony, that is eastman's, as well as clark's and others, are really important to that effort. >> a report from "rolling stone" earlier this week indicated that two sources working with your committee revealed, quote, multiple members of congress were seat beltly involved in efforts to overturn the election loss and the january 6th events that turned violent. have we reached a point where the committee might take the step of issuing subpoenas to sitting members of aggression? >> we have not excluded that at all. one thing we're determined on a very bipartisan, nonpartisan basis s we're going to follow the evidence wherever it leads. if it leads to some of our leagues, it leads to some of our colleagues and we'll seek their testimony. it's not unprecedented to do so. congress sought the testimony of
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congress during the russia investigation. we deposed both a republican and democratic member of congress, so there's ample precedent and we will follow the evidence to its logical conclusion. >> you talk a lot in the book about the fact that you have republican colleagues who in public will support the former president, but then they'll sort of saddle up to you in the halls of congress and say, look, i'm really glad you're doing what you're doing. when it comes to this conversation about sitting members of congress potentially having played a role in what happened on january 6th, the planning of what happened on january 6th, do you hear from any of their republican colleagues that they want to see you weed those folks out? >> well, you know, i don't think they're going to confide that in me. certainly the republicans i'm working on the january 6th select committee, liz cheney and adam kinzinger want to get to the truth as much as i do and they're showing courage in their willing -- i had republicans come up to me on the house floor and say you can't let them see
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you. >> yes. >> i'm in a different place. i can talk to these people and talk my way through these people, but you're in a different category. my first impulse was to be, you know, touched by their concern or my safety, but my next feeling, which was really the dominant feeling, was if they hadn't been lying about the election, we wouldn't need to worry about security. this is what's so dangerous about what's going on right now. in pushing this big lie -- and two weeks ago, steve scalise, even on fox couldn't admit that the election wasn't stolen. by pushing this big lie about the election, they are undermining that the faith of the american people that we can use elections to decide who should govern. if you do that successfully and people don't believe in elections, then you have just
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left it open for political violence. and that's why this is so dangerous right now. >> congressman schiff is staying with us. next, we drill down on his new book, "midnight in washington." we'll discuss this vital question. if american democracy is truly at stake, how do we save it? but first to steven romo who is standing by with a look at the other big stories we're tracking this hour on msnbc. >> alicia, thanks. breaking news. alec baldwin making his first-ever public comments since if shooting earlier this month on the set of "rust" in which cinematographer hutchins was shot and killed. >> she was my friend. she was my friend. the day i arrived in santa fe, i took her to dinner with joel, the director. >> baldwin unable to say under which else because that shooting remains under investigation. vice president kamala harris received her moderna booster dose today. she's now urging all eligible americans to do the same to, quote, get through and beyond
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this pandemic. in a 6-3 vote, the supreme court decided not to block a vaccinate mandate on health care workers in maine, which took effect friday. those who filed suit to block that mandate had done so seeking religious exemption. more "american voices" coming up after this break. resembles someone else, i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. [ ferry horn honks ] i mean just cause you look like someone else doesn't mean you eat off the floor, [ chuckles ] or yell at the vacuum, or need flea medication. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪
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many americans in this country. the votes on the progressive side are there for this bill, and we believe that it could be voted on and passed through even within the next week. >> it's taking longer to pass, missing several key promises made on the campaign trail, but president biden may soon see real progress on his ambitious agenda turned into law. today our nbc team on capitol hill reports house democratic leaders remain hopeful that as soon as tuesday votes will be held on biden's build back better and infrastructure bills. the only potential complication, immigration. a number of house democrats tell nbc news they are reluctant to vote for a bill that includes legalizations if those provisions won't comply with senate budget rules. congressman schiff is back with me. my producers tell me if i invoke the parliamentarian, they will drag me off set because no one is as versed in that, but i wonder how you see the immigration piece of this
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playing out. >> you know, it has to be vetted with the senate parliamentarian to make sure that it can both stay in the bill and that it can't be used to disqualify the whole bill. it's called the byrd rule, and it's a very arcane procedure, but i completely agree with what my colleague, judy chu said in the clip. we're going to get this done. it's going to be enormously beneficial for it american people. it attacks climate change, early childhood education, and so many priorities of the american people. the combination of the two bills we're taking up with the rescue plan that we already passed that lifted half the kids out of poverty will be the biggest investment in the american people since the new deal. >> there was news this week that would not be a surprise to anyone, and that was donald trump endorsing brazilian president bolsonaro, the trump
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of the tropics. currently facing criminal charges for his handling of the pandemic. you write in your book that this authoritarian streak now runs through the whole republican party, but it is not unique to america. quote, all around the world there is a new competition between autocracy and democracy, and for more than a decade the autocrats have been on the rise. this trend toward authoritarian i am began before donald trump and will not have spent its force when he steps off the political stage for good. the experience of the last four years will require constant vigilance on our part so it does not gain another foothold in the highest office in our land. the reason i was struck by that, congressman, is very often when we talk about what we saw under donald trump and what we continue to see with this republican party, it's easy to see it purely in a domestic context. but this is not purely domestic. this is international. as the president steps onto the
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world stage, how do we need to be thinking about autocracy and the rise of authoritarianism as an international struggle? >> you're absolutely right. i remember the first year of the trump presidency, going with john mccain. he could invite whoever to dinner and he invited bono to join us for dinner. at the end of the dinner, we started telling jokes and bono told a joke about being irish. and then he got serious and said i'm very proud of being irish and i'm very proud of ireland. but ireland, like most countries, is just a country. america is also an idea. and that idea of america, when he talked about it, i understood immediately. people around the world look to us as a beacon of democracy, a very imperfect one, certainly, but from the prison cells and evan prison in iran, political prisoners look for us from their jail cells, journalists look to us.
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those in the philippines who are the mass extrajudicial killings, those in brazil look to us. over the past four years, they didn't recognize what they were seeing. all the while, china is extolling its model, which people should make no mistake is totalitarianism. there is a vigorous global competition over those two ideas, autocracy and democracy, and it's vital to us at home, but vital to people around the world that we win that argument. >> it brings me to what you said in the book about the significance of the title you chose, midnight is the darkest moment of the day but the most hopeful because everything that comes after holds the promise of light. are you confident, sir, that there is daylight around the corner? what does america need to do in the near term to ensure that we're not entering a long period of darkness? >> i am confident we're going to get through this. we don't have the luxury of
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despair while we get through it because it requires all of us to be engaged. the greatest danger to the republic is this effort around the country to disenfranchise people of color, but also to strip independent elections officials of their jobs and their duties and give them over to partisans who will find the votes that don't exist that brad raffensperger refused to find when donald trump pressed him to do so. what we can do right now is we can defend the right to vote around the country. we need to fight to get voting rights legislation passed in congress, but we also need americans all over the country to be fighting to protect these technocratic independent elections officials and their jobs, to be pushing back against state and local efforts to disenfranchise people. this is what people can do right now to defend their democracy. don't try to do everything. just try to decide in the next year or year and a half, here's the contribution i'm going to make to the protection of our
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democracy. >> we hear all the time from viewers who just want to know what is it they're supposed to be doing, so thank you for that. california congressman adam schiff. the new book is "midnight in washington: how we almost lost our democracy and still could." in virginia it's neck and neck for governor. what happens on tuesday in a few counties will determine the result. steve kornacki lays out the stakes. a panel of political experts will help break down what democrats have to do to win, to turn out that base. k yo um... the new iphone 13 pro is here, and when you get the new iphone at t-mobile, trade-in value is 'locked in' forever. we can always have a new iphone, forever? fall in love with iphone. when you get one now, you can upgrade every two years forever. we have to be able to repair the enamel on a daily basis. with pronamel repair toothpaste, we can help actively repair enamel in its weakened state. it's innovative. my go to toothpaste is going to be pronamel repair.
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it is a dead heat in the race for virginia governor between democrat terry mcauliffe and republican glenn youngkin. what happens tuesday night will provide our first big test of the political landscape since trump left office. like most of the country, virginia's governor's race is bound to boil down to the suburbs and just a few pivotal counties. who better to lay out the stakes of tuesday's race than nbc news political correspondent steve
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kornacki? he's tracking what to watch for at the big board. >> it's crunch time in virginia. the democrat, terry mcauliffe, can he hold off the republican, glenn youngkin? this in a state that was big-time democratic last year. donald trump lost by ten points to joe biden in virginia. so there's a test here, a couple tests in virginia that i think everybody nationally is going to be looking at. what's interesting about virginia, how democrats ended up winning by ten points last year, it wasn't evenly spread out. it wasn't like every county kind of moved against trump the same way. actually, what happened is it was a tale of two virginias. there were areas of virginia that just dramatically moved against donald trump and went democratic. but there were other areas of virginia that actually became more republican during the trump era. they were outweighed by the democratic areas. but i want to show you those areas.
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this is something folks nationally are going to be watching. these two types of areas in virginia nationally, folks are going to be watching. i'll show you what we call the trump surge counties. these are areas of virginia -- the counties you see in red here, over the course of the trump era made significant -- we're talking 15 or more point swings. one thing to keep in mind, a lot of these are smaller counties. but let me give you a sense of what i'm talking about. take a look at allegheny county on the border with west virginia. donald trump ends up winning allegheny. it's a small county, not a ton of votes. look what happens here because it's the story of what's happening in a lot of these counties. trump won by 44 points over joe biden last year. now, check this out which trump first ran in 2016, he won by 37. let's go back to the last election that didn't have donald
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trump on the ballot. same county, look at this. it was a nail-biter. mitt romney won this county by less than three points in 2012. along comes donald trump and he's winning by 44 points in 2020. republicans gained more than 40 points in allegheny county. so, again, a lot of these counties you see in red here are small like allegheny county, but you saw seismic shifts towards the republicans, voters without college degrees is the demographic. question on tuesday night for glenn youngkin, can he hold that trump level of support? trump is not on the ballot. can glenn youngkin hold that trump level of support? is that a permanent part of the republican coalition or does it unwind towards where it was before trump? virginia wants to see if they can run candidates that are not donald trump and get that kind of support. it wasn't nearly enough the gains trump made to win virginia because they were offset in virginia by these counties, the trump backlash counties. these are the places that moved
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more than 15 points away from the republicans. geographically, it's not much, but these are population centers. there's more than 2 million people here in these counties and cities. this is like coe county outside of richmond. these are big population centers in virginia and it was the exact opposite story. here's dramatic example, louden county. there's more than 400,000 people in louden county. biden won it by 25. let's roll back to the last election before donald trump came on the scene. look at this. 2012, mitt romney was four points behind in louden county. donald trump comes on the scene, now republicans are losing by 25 points. places like louden county, big population centers, suburban areas, metropolitan areas, a lot of white voters with college degrees. that's a group that's dramatically moved away from the republican party. here's the question for tuesday night. can glenn youngkin, the republican, this has been his big goal, can he roll back the clock to something like this?
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can he undo a lot of damage that was done in places like louden county by donald trump during the trump era? glenn youngkin doesn't necessarily need to win louden county to win tuesday night, but can he get it to ten points or less? that's something we'll obviously be watching on tuesday night. again, that's a story everyone nationally is going to be watching because in 2022, if republicans are going to win back the house, they need to win back the suburbs in district after district around the country. they need to win back voters they lost during donald trump's presidency. so those are two types of counties in virginia we're going to pay attention to on tuesday night. >> steve kornacki, thank you. nothing says election season quite like seeing you at the big board. catch our live coverage tuesday as results come in from virginia and other key races across the country. rachel maddow, joy reid, and steve kornacki kick it off tuesday.
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for the values we hold dear. >> he's ended his campaign on a racist dog when else, on banning tony morrison's book. this is about what happened in virginia and it's not about trump. it's about who's going to take virginia to the next level and get us through this covid crisis. >> christina ramirez from next jen america, victory difrancesco at the university of texas austin, chuck row cha, founder and president of solidarity strategies, senior adviser to both the bernie sanders presidential campaigns. you can with a of the debut of his podcast. chuck, good to see you have traded one hat for another. my team warned me that was coming. i'll get you to in a second. but vicki, there's a lot of talk about what everyone is watching for on tuesday night. i wanted to ask you specifically, when it comes to what had been the obama
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coalition, when it comes to black voters, when it comes to latino voters, when it comes to unmarried women, when it comes to young voters, what is it you're going to be watching for on tuesday night and more realistically in those exit polls that come out in the days that follow? >> alicia, what i'm looking at in this election is what the effect of the ground game for democrats is. because what we saw in 2020 was a democratic party that for health reasons decided not to go out and press the flesh and do the traditional shoe leather politics that we know is so effective across the board, especially for our communities of color. so in 2020, many eyebrows were raised when we saw inroads
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making becoming made with those communities. but that lack of ground game, this is this microcosm that we have here where both youngkin and mcauliffe are on the ground, both of their teams, both parties have been on the streets. they've been in supermarkets, in latino communities. so for me, this is going to be very telling about if those communities of color, if they drifted toward the republican party, was that the lack of mobilization, or is this a new trend we're going to be seeing going forward? >> it would add data for you to study. christina, as "the washington post" put it, to mr. youngkin's critics, his culture warrior persona is disingenuous. as long as mr. youngkin is saying what they want to hear and signaling what they understand he cannot say out loud, running on the issue of
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election integrity, for instance, rather than wholeheartedly accepting mr. trump's lies about election fraud in 2020, many see him providing a template how to delicately embrace trumpism. i have a few questions. one, do you think that voters are going to see through that? and two, when it comes to young voters specifically, do you think that they will be mobilized by the other side of these pretend culture wars? >> you know, young voters are so critical in this virginia race. you know, in 2017, 69% of young people voted for the democratic gubernatorial candidate with a record-breaking turnout of young voters in virginia. young voters show up on election day. we're contacting 350,000 young voters this week alone in the state of virginia because i do think young voters see through
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this. young voters see a republican candidate, youngkin, that is anti-science, anti-gay, anti-woman, and against the working class. organizations, unions, state-based student groups are turning out young people, and especially targeting them to turn out on election day. it's going to be a nail-biter, but either way, i think the lesson learned is similar to what we just heard is that we have to do the ground game. we have to be at universities. we have to be in communities of color turning people out and not taking any voter for granted. >> a lot of states think about having large latino populations, people think about california, florida, arizona, colorado, you know the list better than i do. virginia is a state that very often people forget is now in that column, that there is now a sizable latino population in virginia. talk to me about the role that they're going to play on tuesday
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and what you see as the campaigns having done right or wrong when it comes to reaching out to them. >> thank you for asking that question, because i think it's going to be the key to the election. steve kornacki was talking to everybody about where we needed to look, especially louden county and these counties that overperform in the presidential election. guess what else happens in those counties? it's where latinos and african-americans live. so me watching on election night louden county and other enclaves where there's lots of folks of color, if they turn out the same as the presidential or someone in between will literally determine. as i always said, follow the money. you've seen this exorbitant amount of spending going into talking to people of color in these last weeks because they are so critical to this race. you have the dnc, building back together, all these groups like next gen talking to people of color because their turnout percentage will be the
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difference between who wins or loses in this election. >> same way when we talk about which states are latino states, it gets talked about that way and people don't talk about virginia. when we talk about the suburbs and the importance of the suburbs, it is critical to remind people that we're not talking about the leave it to beaver suburbs anymore. we're talking about the "family matters" suburbs. a few questions for you, which is what are you watching for, and specifically when it comes to a lot of the white women that we saw swing away from trump, away from republicans, what do you expect their turnout to look like? >> alicia, there's a lot here. let me start with the second part of that, which is i'm looking for women in virginia, your old-school soccer moms, whole foods moms, whatever moms you want to call them, the swingy white women voter.
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i think i'm looking at the -- we saw vice president harris stump in virginia and basically say don't let virginia become another texas and indicating what just happened with the abortion law here in texas and texas kind of being a heuristic. when they look to texas, the fear that that implants is what can push them toward mcauliffe. quickly, in terms of the suburbs, you are absolutely right. because of gentrification in our cities and places like austin where you can no longer afford to live, our communities of color are going out into the suburbs. and this is happening across the country. so looking at suburbs, you really have to have a grand game and a strategy for those communities of color. there's some of our most diverse areas in the nation, white, black, brown, asian-americans, all in these suburbs outside the metro. >> thank you all. next, the author of "the
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we know sexism is demoralizing and deadly. the united states is one of the highest marriage mortality rates in the globe. 700 pregnancy-related deaths here year in this country. two-thirds considered preventable. one argues it's the direct result of rampant sexism. she makes her case in "the pain gap" to which she spoke to 100 women, every one of them re-counting experiences where their pain was dismissed by the very people they counted on to help. she joins me now. congratulations on the book. let's start with what brought you to writing this, your owner experience with childbirth. what did you learn through that process? >> thank you so much for having me, alicia.
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i learned through that process even though i grew up in bangladesh in the 1980s and saw america come up with, develop, and implement safe motherhood initiatives, that it was still possible to die giving birth in safe moerd initiatives all over the world, including bangladesh, that it was possible the die in the richest country in the world while giving birth in america. i didn't know before my own experience even though i was working on capitol hill as a feminist policy analyst lobbying on global health legislation that it was possible to die giving birth in the richest democracy in the world. i actually didn't think it could happen. and of course while i started digging into it, i discovered a pandora's box. >> right. a pandora's box. and as you spoke with other women -- i have done the same for my book -- you start to see patterns emerge. what were the patterns that you saw emerging? >> the patterns that i saw emerging, that is an excellent question, was that women are not believed.
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alicia, women are not believed about our bodies, our pain, our symptoms. and i also learned that every woman has a story. alicia, every woman has a story. if she doesn't have a story, she knows another woman who has had a story or almost died, you know, dealing with rampant and systemic sexism and racism in american health care. and you know, there is a very gendered and colored impact of what we're seeing, especially with the pandemic which shows us exactly how america's health care functions across really clear racial lines. and perhaps pre-pandemic, we could have debated, you know, the role of race. covid has made it clear that it is racism and not race that is killing especially women of color in health care in america. >> right. and so much of it is culturally enshrined. we're understanding of who is strong, who has a higher tolerance of pain. i think the problem is very well articulated.
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what do you see as a solution? >> well, the radical thing i propose in my book. you know, even though i deal with such morbid and depressing issues is that this is not a doom and gloom book. it's not a doom and gloom issue. the radical thing i propose in "the pain gap" is can we believe women, let's believe women, let's believe women of color. when we tell you we think something's wrong, when we tell you we're in pain, believe us. there's a pain gap, but there's also a credibility gap. and that has to be closed. we have to make it clear that investing in women's health is a priority because this is a solvable solution. it's not cancer or aids. it's women's health. it's not an enigma. >> i want to ask you because you point out something that i love which is that women are often dismissed as psychosomatic. that's linked to the history of women being deemed hysterical. why does that word still carry so much weight? >> gosh, you know, i actually wanted to call my book "hysterical."
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even though the term medically is defined gender neutrally, women of color, you and i both know that that word is linked to women. when was the last time we heard a man being called hysterical? and in my book, i actually dive into the history of the word hysteria and where it comes from, tracing it back to the ancient egyptians, the ancient greeks. my question was, was it always like this? were women always just not credible and not believed about our health? and it turns out, yes, and guess who was describing us as hysterical the longest -- men. >> again, the book is "the pain gap: how sexism and racism in health care kill women." thank you and congratulations. next, how a one-letter change to passport applications is leading to millions of americans being accepted for who they are, at least on paper. first, a preview of what is ahead tonight on "ayman."
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the state department confirms it has issued the first-ever u.s. passport with an x gender marker. while the state department will not say who it was issued to, attorneys for dana zimm of colorado confirms it was issued to their client. zimm has been fighting in court for an x gender marker since 2015 after being denied a passport application for writing "intersex" instead of marking male or female. over 5 million americans identify as nonbinary or intersex, and starting in 2022 the state department says it will allow passports applicants to choose "x." while this is progress, there's a ways to go specifically on the state level. only 20 states in america allow residents to use an x marker on their driver's licenses or state-issued i.d.s. that number far lower when counting the number of countries across the globe allowing "x" markers. the u.s. special diplomatic envoy for lgbtq rights
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explaining why more countries should allow it writing, quote, when a person obtains identity documents that reflect their true identity, they live with greater dignity and respect. point backed up by dana zimm when speaking to our denver station, kusa, after receiving their new passport. >> i felt pretty restricted from the time they denied my passport application. sort of like being in jail but not quite. because it means for freedom. that is important. that's probably one of the most important freedoms we get to have. and you can't beat that. >> it means more freedom. with that, thank you for being with us this saturday. i'm albany alicia. my friend zerlina maxwell will be here tomorrow for "american voices" so i can trick-or-treat with the kid doze. that's at 6:00 p.m. eastern. now i'll hand it over to my colleague, ayman. >> hey. very important. a small step but important step for more equality in this
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country. so thank you for highlighting that. good evening to everyone. welcome to "ayman." it was the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war, so why are federal prosecutors offering petty offense plea deals to capitol rioters? we'll look at the latest effort by republicans and right-wing media to whitewash the january 6th insurrection. plus, are we finally at the finish line -- the house is expected to vote on both the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the reconciliation bill this tuesday. i'm going to discuss this with michigan congressman andy levin. then the trial of kyle rittenhouse is set to begin on monday. why is the judge banning the use of the word "victim" to refer to the protesters who were shot and killed? and what impact will that have on the trial? i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. all right, tonight we are learning the lengths to which former president trump is

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