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tv   Alex Witt Reports  MSNBC  October 30, 2021 10:00am-11:00am PDT

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♪♪ ♪♪ a very good day to all of you from msnbc world head quarters in new york. we begin with breaking news from capitol hill. word of how soon president biden's economic agenda will go to a vote. julie sirken is joining me now
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with this. what do you know about a timeline? >> reporter: house democratic leadership telling nbc news they're looking for an accelerated timeline that the house could take up the $1.75 trillion framework president biden came to capitol hill to present, as soon as tuesday, in addition to the bipartisan infrastructure bill that has been waiting for a vote since august. does senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema support this bill? the last i heard they were happy with how the progress was going. we don't know firmly whether they're committed to backing this bill. one new development that is a key development that makes me think it's a positive development is that house progressives are on board with
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this timeline, with this vote that could happen on tuesday. progressive caucus chair came out of a meeting saying that senator sinema is working in good faith. everything is fluid. congress has a very accelerated ambitious timeline they want to get to. this means that sunday all committees in the house have to put their pens down. they can't make anymore changes to the bill. on monday the rules committee would meet to take up the revisions before a final vote as early as tuesday. when we're looking ahead to tuesday, that's a key date for multiple reasons. number one president biden could still be in europe, if not on his way back. perhaps democrats who sent him empty handed to europe will give him something to tout. also, it's the governors election in virginia. terry mcauliffe said he wants to
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see the bill passed. perhaps this is a gift they're giving to the governor in virginia ahead of a really tough race there. alex? >> thank you for that comprehensive report. more breaking news to share. we're taking you live to rome. that's where the leaders are taking part in that g-20 summit. that includes president biden arriving there for that gala dinner. that is not president biden. it's been a very busy day overseas for the president meeting with several world leaders. just a few hours ago the president sat down with european allies to discuss the iran nuclear deal. meanwhile, the race for governor in virginia is as tight as can be. the candidates are neck and neck. terry mcauliffe, democrat, has
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49% support of likely voters. youngkin close behind with 48%. democrats have taken the lead in early voting ahead of tuesday. according to a democratic data firm, target smart, at least 937,000 virginians have submitted ballots. that's 54% of those voters so far, likely democrats. the u.s. is one step closer to vaccinating young children against coronavirus. the fda approving emergency use authorization for pfizer's vaccine. last hour congresswoman kim shrier told us how critical this would be. >> i know parents are so excited. as a pediatrician, i'll be going to school vaccination sites giving shots.
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>> we go to mike memoli and kyra simmons in rome. first to you, mike. walk us through the key moments. >> reporter: the most recent order of business -- you were showing the pictures -- for president biden, attending mass in rome. given the news we heard about an accelerated timeline for a vote in the house on the president's infrastructure bill would be a significant step forward as he tries to get his agenda passed. this relates to one of the big agenda items here at the g-20 summit. the president's reconciliation plan includes a 15% corporate minimum tax. that's something that the u.s. not only wants to adopt at home, but calls on its allies and countries around the world to adopt as new rules of the road
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to prevent corporations to shifting their profits to low tax havens. secretary yellen saying this deal will remake the global economy. rather than competing with lower rates, american will compete on the skills of our people and ideas, which is a race we can win. a big step forward here. something the president has been advocating for sometimes, not just at home, but around the world. the other big item for the president is on the sidelines of g-20 summit, a meeting with germany, france and the united kingdom as the u.s. tries to get back to the negotiating table with iran. president trump pulled the u.s. out of that deal. the u.s. has been trying to enter back into discussions with the iranians. there's indication that's moving forward. the u.s. taking a step today to
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call on iran to come back to the table saying the sanctions they're willing to relieve would be a big boost for their economy if they're willing to come to the table. >> thank you so much, mike for that. also in rome security on high alert with the protest of the g-20. let's go to kir simmons with that part of the story. how intense have the demonstrations been and what are they protesting specifically? >> reporter: we've certainly heard them alex across this skyline at times. honestly the protests have not been as substantial or impactful as we've seen at other g-20s. there's always a rag tide of protesters here. opposing vaccine passports and another protest over climate change. there are protests, perhaps not
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having the same impact on world leaders as we've seen. >> we know that president biden has met with a number of world leaders. do you have a sense of how they're receiving him and the effects of his administration thus far? >> reporter: he had some diplomatic damage control to do. we know about the difficulties over the withdrawal from afghanistan, that crisis in diplomacy with the french over the nuclear submarine deal. he met with president macron. that seemed to be effective. as mike was talking about, some of these deals that president biden is managing to do today, the global tax rate and on vaccines for the world, will be seen by the biden administration as victories. another thing too, all these meetings these days will be seen in terms of the rivalry between the u.s. and china. it's not for nothing i think that people are noticing that
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president xi and president putin are not here in person. one senior european official told me they think the russians probably won't mind being left out, but there will be discomfort with the chinese. the chinese wanted to present themselves as an alternative to the u.s. it's difficult to do that if you're not here in person. the chinese foreign minister is here, but president xi not here. >> keir, thank you for that. for more on the g-20 meeting i'm joined by michael mcfall, an nbc international affairs analyst. we just heard president biden saying ahead of today's meeting with the european counter parts that talks with iran are scheduled to resume. iran's top negotiator said negotiations to return to that 2015 nuclear agreement will begin by the end of november.
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what do you make of this? how do you expect these talks to proceed under the country's new hard line leader and are the europeans on board? >> well, talking is better than no talking. i think the lead up to today's meeting there was positive signs. the biden administration was saying don't get too excited. we don't have a break through. we're just starting. the fact -- there's the photo right there. that suggests to me we're taking this opening seriously and i applaud that. we need to get back to the iran nuclear deal. it was a good deal. it was wrong for the trump administration to pull out. it makes it more difficult to go back to the status quo. we can't do that. we have to at least talk to the iranians, preferably together with that quad. by the way, the russians should be part of that photograph too had president putin been there because they're critical to this
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as well. i think it's a good sign that this meeting took place and they decided to highlight it today. >> good. president biden as you know delayed his departure to europe in an event to get the $1.75 trillion infrastructure bill passed to no avail as of now. how might this be interpreted? he's trying to wield influence and influence leadership overseas. these leaders know the problems with legislating and trying to put deals together. >> they do. it's called democracy. not all the leaders know that. they're not all from democratic systems. they understand it. they know what's going on. it would have been much better for the president to have those deals in his pocket rather than to get them done when he returns. there's a lot of momentum. it gives him the chance to lead, as he did today. this minimum corporate global
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tax is a significant achievement that's good for the american people. it's good for the global economy. they consolidated that win today. that's a big victory for president biden. that wasn't happening over the last four years. his leadership also on the pandemic and vaccinations for all over the world was accomplished today. that's a win for him as well. when he goes on to scotland, glasgow, he can talk about the biggest package ever in american history towards reducing the effects of climate that is on the verge of breaking through. that shows he's showing leadership at home and he's a strong effective leader abroad. >> worth sending balloons if it passes on tuesday. that will be a massive headline, we can only hope. let me ask you about the president who told the world leaders in june america is back. according to a gallop poll americans standing in the world
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has rebounded from the trump era. then the approval under president trump was 30%. now it's just hovering under 50%. how much is that 19-point bump about joe biden being in office versus donald trump being out of it? >> i think it's mostly the exit of donald trump who -- if you look at gallop or pew polling on this, really tanked america's image abroad. a couple countries that wasn't true. israel, president trump was strong. russia, president trump was strong. the rest of the world way down. it was a relief. that gives a bit of a honeymoon period for president biden and his administration. they made some mistakes. you mentioned them earlier. afghanistan was not handled well. the way they handled the french with the deal with the australians, also not handled well.
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i applaud what president biden said today. he owned it. he said we didn't do that well. i think that was very refreshing. just own it and move on. there's no doubt that with president biden as the leader of the united states he goes to places like the g-20 and the summit tomorrow on climate as a leader of the world and people look to him as a leader of the world in a way that by the end of the trump administration most leaders of the world did not look to president trump as a leader of the international community. >> you know one thing i noticed superficially, president biden was at the end of the family photo in the front row as opposed to president trump who we all watched muscle his way to get front and center, not the photo we're sharing there. it was something i thought, yeah, you know, he's taking his place with everybody else. michael mcfall, good to see you. let's go to the world series
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where the braves are facing controversy even as they lead the astros 2-1. vaughn hillyard is in atlanta. what say you, vaughn? >> reporter: the braves picked up game three win last night. it was more than three hours long. through out those three hours it was hard to miss the chanting of the atlanta fans doing the tomahawk chop they call it. there's been heightened attention here at the world series about that very chant. to the extent that it is insensitive to native americans and whether they, the atlanta braves, could be the next team to change their name, their logo and get rid of that chant. it's a chant synonymous with the braves. the so-called tomahawk chop,
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carried out by fans in atlanta for decades. this weekend the chant under new scrutiny as it's seen and heard on baseball's biggest stage, the world series. >> chop on. >> chop on, baby. >> chop on. >> it's history. >> reporter: bringing heightened attention to not only the famous chop, but also the atlanta braves name and native american imagery. >> this is a hollywood stereo type. the majority of americans understand that native mascots are wrong. >> reporter: the washington football team changed their name last year and the cleveland indians announcing they would be next. >> we're excited to usher in the next era as the cleveland guardians. >> reporter: the mlb commissioner defending the braves organization. >> i'm 100% certain that the braves understand what the native american community in their region believes and they've acted in accordance with
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that understanding. >> reporter: the braves first named for a boston ball club in the 1870s. they moved to milwaukee in the 1950s before making their way to atlanta. while fans are guided on the chop -- >> i wish think would stop it. >> it would be heart breaking. >> reporter: many native americans find the gesture a disturbing reminder. >> there is blood in that soil from the removal of native americans. to turn around -- this is what makes it so sickening. to see the team dig in on this issue. >> reporter: nbc news reached out to the atlanta braves organization yesterday for comment. we've yet to hear back. game four is tonight and also former president trump is expected to be in attendance. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you for that. the race that could give us a preview of 2022 and beyond,
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breaking news out of virginia today. it's the last day to early vote ahead of tuesday's election. right now democrat terry mcauliffe and republican glenn youngkin are in a dead heat. chris jansing is in leesburg, virginia with volunteers going door to door. chris, looked like a sizeable crowd of volunteers. what are they telling you about why they're canvassing today? >> reporter: i'll ask them directly. we were expecting 40 to 60 people at the rally. turned out to be 120. talking to those canvassers, those volunteers, they're talking about the tightening of this race. they've got this big turn out coming to neighborhoods like this to talk to voters to make
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sure they voted, including janet right behind me. they've come from philadelphia. one of the things that groups have found is that people who feel motivated for the democrats want to be involved. tell me why you decided to leave on a beautiful saturday to come here and volunteer. >> i'm nervous about the outcome of the virginia election. we want to give them our support. the local issues are critical issues, funding for schools, for health, for covid problems. >> the house of delegates, one of the things we've seen in texas is how influential legislators have been. why did you want to come out? >> we want to make sure they have all the support they can before the election. that's why we're here.
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>> i know you have more houses to get to. i want to let you do your thing. thank you for taking the time and be with us. >> thank you. >> reporter: why loudoun county? this is a good question. suburban voters so important to what's been going on. here it's particularly important for both candidates. joe biden won this state by 10 points. this county he won by 25 points. there's a feeling in the mcauliffe camp they have to keep that margin big. the independent voters who went to joe biden to get him that number, there's concern about whether or not they will go back to the republican side. that's what they're looking at. in fact right now there's a rally in manassas, virginia, for glenn youngkin. then you have 17, 18, 19
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different stops for terry mcauliffe today. you see this last minute push, just a couple more hours for people to early vote. >> chris, last hour we were talking -- i think you're correct in interpreting the enthusiasm. kurt said he was on the campaign trail. he can't believe what he's seeing with the enthusiasm. as usual, chris, spot on. thank you so much. joining me illinois congresswoman, a democratic member of the house appropriation committee. welcome back. i want to dive into your op-ed in "newsweek." you wrote i'm a democrat who won in trump country. we must unite and build back better. you go on to say i have a message to my colleague threatening to tank the entire package, it's time to live up to that promise. the good news is nbc news is reporting the plan is to pass
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both bills as early as tuesday. do you feel good about where things stand right now? how important a moment is this for moderates and progressives? >> it's incredibly important. i ended last week -- i have to say that legislatively, it was one of the most frustrating weeks in my career. the people back here -- i'm sitting here in moline, illinois, where the uaw workers have a tentative agreement to get off strike against john deere. i'm in a blue collar area where a family of four makes about $54,000 a year. they sent me to washington to get something done. i wrote that column as a message to say, come on, we're not going to get everything we want.
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that's the way legislation works. we've got to get this done. >> absolutely. the president echoing those sentiments. he said i didn't get everything i wanted as well. the fact that we're hearing a vote will be on tuesday, did you hear that? represent kim shrier, her eyebrows went up. had you heard that? >> just last night i heard that. we fly back out monday. i hope we go into session on tuesday so we can send this message to the voters in virginia saying democrats can get things done. that was the message from president biden when he came in to meet with our caucus a couple days ago. he said we're at an inflection point. we have to show the rest of the world that democracy works.
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alex, you know this, but legislating is messy. it is a lot of back and forth and ups and downs and twists and turns. in the end i think we can get this done. i hope that we do this first thing on tuesday and we move forward. we show those voters in november and we show the voters for the election in 2022. democracy works. democrats can get it done. joe biden ten months into his tenure right now, ten months, is on the verge of passing something historic. like fdr's package and the eisenhower rebuilding our country package altogether. >> i sense your hope. how about your level of confidence it's going to happen? what would it mean for joe biden? an incredible welcome home gift to him. also, sending a message overseas while he's at the g-20 summit
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and those things in it with climate change and combatting that. >> i'm confident. i think we'll fly back out to washington and close the deal here. i can't think of anything better than to be able to send that message when president biden is abroad that we can get the job done. he called this an inflection point when he came in to meet with us. are we up to the challenge of meeting this inflection point? i think we are. i feel confident and i think this would send a great message when president biden is overseas that, yes, indeed we can get this done. we're doing it in historic fashion, in a way that's going to change lives of families, those in the middle class, or aspire to the middle class. this is going to change lives for generations to come, these two pieces of legislation. >> in terms of you having been the chair of the democratic campaign, the democratic
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congressional campaign committee, how much will this influence voters as the go to the polls in the midterms? >> everything is about results. as i wrote in that column, this is really about showing people that we can get things done. i have not only campaigned for -- i first was on city council where it's all about results. when you're representing your next door neighbor and they know where you live and something happened with their water bill, in this case this is literally about getting results. we've got to prove it this week, that we can get this done. then we have a lot more work to do on top of this. we have to make sure we're addressing the supply chain to the best of our ability. we have to make sure we're addressing inflation, that we're addressing immigration in a way that makes sense. there's a lot of issues we're
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facing as americans. i know that president biden is up to that challenge. i know that house leadership and house members are up to that challenge. this is something that's major. we have a lot more major work to get done still. >> congresswoman, awfully good to see you. thanks so much. there's a new report today that former president trump wants to keep a lot of secrets about what happened at the white house during the january 6th riot. there's a list of items. we'll bring that to you next.
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breaking news into the investigation on the january 6th attack on the capitol hill. in a late night court filing the fashion al archives revealed that donald trump is blocking investigators from accessing about 750 pages of material relevant to the investigation. that includes daily presidential diaries, drafts of election
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related speeches, call logs and handwritten notes and files. joining me now is congressional reporter for the guardian. welcome. that is a lot of important documents. talk about the kind of information they contain that donald trump's trying to block here. >> so the committee investigating the capitol attack is trying to piece together inquiry, including what the former president knew in the days leading up to january 6th. this is where these documents could shed light. in the court filing the national archives said trump was trying to block the release of visitor records, memos that were included in former chief of staff mark meadows' files, deputy white house counsel's
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files. these are the types of documents that could shed light on what trump was doing on the days before january 6th. this is why it's so pivotal and why trump is trying to prevent their release. >> how unprecedented is this? >> well, i think it's absolutely unprecedented. first of all, we've never had an instance where we had an insurrection. on top of that the former president is trying to hide all his involvement in january 6th and that insurrection by trying to claim executive privilege. executive privilege applies to current members of the administration. it's wielded by the current president. for the former president to say i don't care what you think, it matters what i think, that's never happened before and i think this is where it's going to go into the courts next. whether trump has a viable claim to executive privilege. >> if you were a psychologist, i would be asking you why does anybody bother to hide something if they have nothing to hide?
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let's move on to what we know from the reporting from the "washington post." as vice president hid, a top trump aid said the vice president caused the violence. saying, quote, the siege is because you and your boss didn't do what was necessary so that the american people can see for themselves what happened. easeman confirmed it to "the washington post," but said he was not blaming pence for the violence. what do you make of it and how does it track with your reporting? >> i mean, it dove tails with my reporting. i spoke to easeman myself and spoke to a number of people involved in trump's legal team. on january 4th easeman met with mark meadows and trump to try
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and persuade the vice president to effectively kick the election result certification back to the house and this was the encompassing legal effort easeman was heading alongside rudy giuliani and steve bannon. if you talk to people in trump's orbit now, the reason pence didn't do it is because his counsel and chief of staff intervened. >> i'm sure you're aware that bennie thompson told "the washington post" they plan to subpoena easeman who wrote the blueprint for how the previous administration could subvert the election results. what kind of information could he provide the committee given that he wrote a blueprint for subverting results? is he being considered a mastermind behind the scenes or not at that level? >> i think the select committee
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has to consider him as a mastermind of some sort. over the course of our reporting we've made clear that easeman and bannon and a number of other people in the former president's orbit were involved in this legal effort to try to return trump to the oval office. trump himself appears to have thought actually that he could just subvert the election and declare martial law, but the legal effort was much more cunning and easeman was the driving force of this. he was involved in strategy meetings with bannon. he was involved in private discussions in the oval. easeman is the crux of the select committee's investigation. >> hugo lowell, thank you for joining us. the realities of defunding the police, what happens if voters in minneapolis choose to get rid of the police department tuesday and what takes its place? place?
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community from ever occurring in our city. it will not reduce the disproportionate crime disparity that has been a public health crisis in our city for decades. it won't change the culture of a police existence for 155 years. >> msnbc law enforcement analyst carmen best joins me now and, of course, the former police chief of seattle. resigned when the city council voted to slash the police department by 50%. and this is her new book. "black and blue: lessons on leadership, break bearing yers and racial reconciliation." i have my own copy of it, i'm very glad to that. and carmen, the first african-american police chief and a member of black lives matter taking stands against systemic racism and police brutality. where do you stand on the idea of replacing the police department?
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>> hi, alex. thank you for having me this afternoon. let me say i totally do not think that is a good idea. it is putting the -- the responsibility spore the police department in the hands of city council, elected officials, who often don't understand all the nuances of fighting crime, and how to build public safety. it's not a good idea. completely agree with the chief in minneapolis. i mean, we do need to make changes. everyone knows that. the hope of the george floyd policing act and i'm sure other measures in place, all of us want to make sure we have fair and just policing, but defunding the police department in this manner and having this almost happenstance, set of rules and regulations around it, will not make people safer and will not address the issues people are looking at of systemic racism. i absolutely think this is not a good idea. >> okay. i'm going to ask you about the systemic racism you've had to deal with that and in your
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tenure as a police chief and getting to that point. this question. when someone talks about a department of public safety, what's wrong with that concept? oftentimes it's suggested police officers when dealing with issues, be they racism or people struggling for whatever reason, mental health, any other reason, they're not necessarily trained the way someone else might be better trained to handle that specific situation. i know you've heard this before. what's wrongry the concept of the department of public safety they could incorporate elements of that alongside law enforcement? >> nothing wrong with that. actually, i fully support having additional resources, mental health providers and social workers, at the intersection of public health and safety is critical. where i stand in difference to this is it's not defunding one to support the other. it's both and. we need good officers. we need good police responses,
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but we also need good upstream measures so that situations don't evolve to call 911. we would love to see more support, and historically i will say we haven't seen the level of infrastructure and budget for mental health and addiction and other issues that affect public safety. >> okay. so we're going to get to it now as you wrote about struggles with the seattle city council and deciding to cut the police force in half and effectively roll back your diversity efforts. what is the risk of a bold change like that, first, for the police department? >> well, one, it was completely predictable, as you've seen. nationally speaking. certainly in seattle, violent crime up, homicides up. we don't create more safety removing officers. simply do not. having the council not be involved and working with the
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police department on making safety measures, i think it's to the detriment of society. i absolutely do. while i still at the same time recognize the need for change it can't be a blunt change without very strategic thoughtful interactions and interventions, and i think that is where we need to go. politicians are involved in politics. that's what they do. and push lick safety isn't just a political issue. it's much more than that. >> it can be argued that police do not equally serve communities of color. where crime rates are highest. are these voters in more of a predicament? they tend to want more police, but at the same time may need a somewhat different approach to policing in that specific community? >> oh, yeah. nats a very good point, alex. you know, communities that are most affected often also have most difficulties, particularly communities of color. we all recognize that. that data shows that.
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we need a better path forward so we can build the trust needed. but at the same time, we have to have police services. it is absolutely an entitled position to think you can get rid of police services, provide public safety. it works the opposite, if you ask me, because people will not show up. they will not support business communities. if bullets are flying. there needs to be some level of public safety there, as well as measures to deal with the other systemic problems. >> we're going to go to the book now, because it's a fascinating personal story, carmen, that you write. you grow up in high school you're an athlete there and in tacoma. great lake the girls state record 400x400, nice on that. serving in the army, working your way up the ranks. you talk about hearing overhearing conversations about people expecting you to fail. what kind of things did you hear? >> well i talk in the book, "black and blue" specifically
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when i was at the academy and heard a couple of the employees there talking about, you know, my scores and, oh, looks like she's going to make it through, and they weren't saying it in a positive way. like, oh, she's going to make it through. they were not happy about it. so i think there was distance from folks to see my success through that. but there were also, i must say, many people who supported me, trying to make it through and i talk about that as well with mentors and allies and sponsors i'd met over time. >> a lot in this book. appreciate the positive tone on which we end this conversation. wish you the best of luck with it. i'll see you soon. "black and blue." go look for it, guys. thank you. the trump backlash zones two crucial virginia counties that can make all the difference in virginia's race and in fact next year's midterms. terms. we look at how much you've saved, how much you'll need, and build a straightforward plan to generate income, even when you're not working.
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