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course the executives from the big oil companies they plan to say that's completely unfair comparison. >> we will be watching fireworks all over the hill. the hearing begins in the next hour and focused on the president and democrats wrapping up their meeting, the president expected to speak in about 90 minutes. no republicans getting on board. it is on the line for democrats. i'm stephanie ruehl. jose diaz-balart picks up breaking news coverage right now. >> good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. it is an incredibly busy day in our nation's capitol. president biden is expected to unveil a new frame work pour the safety net but is everyone on board? we'll find out where things stand. from bob me then in does and
raul ruiz. later, cap toil hill big oil executives in the hot seat. authorities say the fatal shot alec baldwin fired on the set of his new movie was a live bullet. we'll have the latest on the investigation and also be hearing from a doctor about why it's important to vaccinate children and why some people can get a fourth shot as covid cases drop in the u.s., they are surging in russia. moscow heading into another lockdown. we begin on capitol hill, president biden spoke with white house democrats about a new framework for a bill aimed at reshaping the social safety net which could trigger a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. after his pitch to lawmakers the president will pitch it to the
american people. you see him arriving he takes off for europe for a high stakes meeting on global economy and climate change. with me nbc news capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell and monica alba. >> reporter: he's been in the room for about 45 minutes now and there were no phones allowed in the room so we're not getting too many details, but what we do know from the few members who have left there are left early, president biden is going through the proposal section by section. he's educating the members what is in the proposal and trying to convince them to vote for the separate bipartisan infrastructure bill, the roads, bridges bill that the trillion-dollar bill speaker
pelosi wants voted on today, while also supporting this proposal, but jose, there are a lot of questions. while is he trying to unite the party the progressives say the framework is not enough. they need details and legislative text and a strong commitment from senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema that they are going to support it. those are three things that the president is not able to provide to house democrats just yet. we don't know where kyrsten sinema and joe manchin stand. we hope to find out soon. senator sanders a key ally of the progressives backs the progressives' position telling them they should not vote for the bipartisan infrastructure bill if there are not legislative text and support of kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. 'lot of questions and work to do
before the bills get over the finish line. >> leigh anne, it doesn't seem like the president would go into these meetings postpone or delay a bit his flight out of d.c. today. if he did have some understand manchin and sinemas were on board with a framework, right? >> he is pulling out all the stops. he needs this before the virginia governor's race on tuesday, needs it politically, for policy and so he is trying to do everything he can and he knows he's running out of time. he has these two artificial deadlines that are really important that's trying to beat here, and so i said this on the last hour, but president biden has to walk in there and do the best sales job that he has ever done of his political career,
probably better than winning the presidency, because gathering the democratic party on an agenda that so many of these members have been wanting for decades is really, really critical, especially when you have two members who don't want a lot of this to move forward, and the progressives have already made a lot of concessions. there is a lot of things that are not in this bill that they wanted, like paid family leave, like free community college, and expanded coverage for medicare for hearing, dental and vision. we are only told there's some medicare coverage for hearing. these programs are smaller than they wanted, and so the president still has them on their side, on this legislation, but he needs to get this over the finish line, and he needs to make sure that he has all 50 senators on board, because the progressives do not want to pass this bipartisan bill that the moderates in the senate and in
the house want and then get left hung to dry. jose? >> monica, how confident is the white house that all democrats will get on board and how important was it that the president got somewhere with this before he boards air force one to head to europe? >> are they're hopeful, hesse but there is a major pressure tactic from the president. there this been calls from certain democrats for him to get more personally involved to really try to get this over the finish line. that's what you're seeing here this morning, but i'm reminded of the last time the president went to capitol hill just about a month ago for a similar meeting with house democrats to see if they could get closer to an agreement. we remember what happened there. they couldn't walk out of that with any framework or path forward on the votes. the progressives said we're not going to get on board but we know there's a guarantee of some of our priorities. the moderates were holding out on things that are important to them. this was a matter of weeks ago
where the president did go there and said i need you guys to get on board and in effect the party, his own party was not behind him in that moment so he said to speaker pelosi, we need to pause on this, we need to make sure we can get everybody to come together before we attempt this again essentially. so we just need to remember that that was just a matter of weeks ago when it did not work out because there was still so much to be ironed out and to be quite frank, we're at a place, yes, they've made progress, they slashed the price tag and now been able to lay out what's in, what's out, but there are major questions about some of the unresolved issues and those things really, frankly, do take time, but the fact that's supposed to be leaving in just a couple of hours for these key summits in italy and scotland meant that the president had to come out and say i'm putting it all out there, please stand behind me, let's tell the american people that we're closer than ever to getting something done and on the verge of a deal, but there's still so much work left and i think that's what's critical to remind people that the president, the
white house can come out and say we want to you sign off on this but until his own party agrees to, that is still a challenge and why he needs to do so much convincing in this ongoing meeting on the hill. >> if there's anyone who knows the details and minutia about legislative processes, it is president biden. the fact that's there, the fact that's meeting with people at least could be an indication that there's been a lot of work that has already been successfully done by the president to get to this point. >> yes. there's been a tremendous amount of work, going on for months these negotiations in fits and starts but it has been a lot of work, and the past couple weeks he's been having members to the white house, especially senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to try to get them on board and understand what they really want here, but it's not just
president biden who is coming to the hill. they are, the entire administration is involved in this. we just got, were told that michael regan, the epa administrator, is coming to the hill to brief the congressional black caucus on this bill to try to get them on board. of course, this is a huge climate change bill. there's more than half of a trillion dollars devoted to climate change provisions so that's why you have michael regan coming up here to also do a full court press really to get these members to support this and to support it enough so they could also pass this separate bipartisan infrastructure bill today, because remember, these two pieces of legislation are linked and also negotiating tactics as well, so you can't talk about one without talking about the other today, especially with speaker pelosi wanting to pass the bipartisan one today, the one that funds the trillion dollars for roads, bridges, highways because of
climate change provisions. >> fascinating process. thank you very much for being with me and to talk about this is new jersey democratic senator bob menendez, chair of the senate foreign relations committee and member of the finance committee. senator, it is a pleasure to see you, sir. this is, talk to us about this framework. is this something you're willing to support? >> well, jose, good to be with you. congratulations on your show. >> thank you. >> look, i certainly am excited to see some of the initiatives in the framework, but the administration is has come to a deal with senators manchin and sinema and deal with the rest of the senate. so i look forward to seeing the specifics of the deal, i've been around long enough to know what's in the legislation is critically important. i am concerned there are a couple of provisions that are incredibly necessary that i don't see in the framework, that
doesn't mean we can't achieve them. we have to deal with the question of unfairness to states under the s.a.l.t. provisions. i want to find a way forward to deal with the cost of prescription drugs, i've been working with chairman widen on. i see the framework as an opportunity to get to the final goal. >> but you have, you're hopeful maybe some of the things that apparently aren't in it could be added? >> yes, i am hopeful that some of the elements that i care about and many others how to we lower the cost of prescription drugs and find a pathway on some degree of immigration reform, how do we create relief for states like mine that ultimately
donate to the federal treasury. if we want states like new jersey to continue to be an economic powerhouse, it helps the federal treasury, to fund some of the programs, then you got to help us be in that position, the s.a.l.t. deduction is one of the elements. >> we're seeing some images just moments ago apparently the president has wrapped up his meetings on capitol hill. i want to turn to the increasing tensions between china and taiwan. taiwan's president sat down for an interview with cnn. here's some of what she had to say, senator. >> do you have faith the united states would defend taiwan from the mainland were to turn? >> i do, given the long-term relationship with the u.s. we have a wide range of cooperation with the u.s. aiming at increasing our defense capability. >> how many u.s. servicemembers are deployed in taiwan right
now? >> not as many as people thought. >> we know china launched a number of warships, flown dozens of bombers, fighters near taiwan in recent months and again, just want to point out these are live images right now of the president and nancy pelosi, as they wrap up that meeting and he is clearly just heading out back to head back to the white house. senator, back to the issue of taiwan. what should the u.s. be doing to help taiwan? what message should the biden administration be sending to china? >> well, the message should be clear and unequivocal, that changing the status of taiwan by force is simply unacceptable and will not be tolerated. i think that i've been reviewing the taiwan relations act and it's amazing, even though it was created several decades ago it
is wide-ranging enough for us to help taiwan in ways that can deter china's aggression. for example, we can advance the military's supplies that taiwan needs, the equipment it needs to make it very clear that it would be very costly to china to try to seek an invasion of it. we are in the midst of helping taiwan join international organizations in which its status becomes clearer and more difficult for china to abuse. we are in the midst of understanding that taiwan is a significant semiconductor producer. that is important to the world, and the world cannot tolerate that china would ultimately take over taiwan and in doing so could have a stranglehold on the production of semiconductors, which is in about everything we use. so these are some of the ways in which we can engage and help taiwan, we can help it
militarily. we can help it in training. we can help it in equipment. we can help it in the international forms. we can help it in a deployable effort to make sure more countries acknowledge taiwan and help us continue to have it in international. >> it's important to underline the fact that there are elections in taiwan. people live in a system where their leaders could be elected freely. that's so different than china and it just, you know, we have to kind of remember that. senator, i want to turn back to the reconciliation bill. this new framework includes a $100 billion investment to reform our immigration system. what is your understanding of that? >> my understanding is that that provision is in the framework, my understanding also is that speaker pelosi and house democrats will have that in the
legislation that they ultimately pass, and that the house is actually going to send us a registry date provision to effectuate that part of the immigration reform. those are all good things, but of course you know, as always, as i say, the devil is in the detail, but they're good bellwethers of democrats seeking to find a pathway forward on immigration. we're still a long way there, because of the senate parliamentarian, but we have a mission not to take no for an answer. >> senator, i know you've been keeping a very close watch on what is going on in cuba, the 15th of november, there are planned protests asking once again for freedom. how do you see that? >> it is the right of the cuban people as it is the right of people anywhere to peacefully protest their grievances and to
seek change. we saw what the cuban regime did in the last peaceful protest that spread throughout the island, not only in havana with the san ysidro movement led by afro-cubans but from every part of the country there were protests. the protests have been called for once again. what we need to do is to make sure that the regime understands there are consequences for any brutality that they create as they did the last time against peaceful protesters, or the arrest of peaceful protesters as they did with hundreds of peaceful protesters. magnitsky act sanctions, the administration is engaged in trying to find ways to create internet connectivity. we need to do that because the regime shuts down the internet when they are fearful of their own people, which is the only reason the regime shuts down the internet and we also have to push internationally, so that the cries of the cuban people
are heard not just by the united states, but by countries throughout the world. that's why i've been challenging some of our countries in the european union, that's why i'm glad that a series of parliamentarians who chair their foreign relations committee as i do here in the senate join me in making a declaration in that regard. >> senator menendez, always a pleasure to have you. thank you for your time. >> thank you. it's time for a look at the headlines out west, police have confirmed that live bullets, including the round believed to have killed halyna hutchins were found on the set of the movie "rust." police collected over 600 pieces evidence, including 500 rounds of ammunition. joining me from los angeles with the latest is emily. what else are police saying about the investigation? >> reporter: we know alec baldwin fired a real bullet that
killed has leia luchins and struck director joel souza in the shoulder, who was standing behind her. authorities are combing through hundreds of pieces of evidence including three guns and 500 rounds of ammunition, real and blank bullets. investigators interviewed baldwin and the two people who handled the gun before giving it the actor/producer. halls said he did not check each round loaded in the weapon before yelling "cold gun" mean it was safe. >> emilie a second shutdown because of vaccination rules. >> reporter: weeks after a san francisco location was closed for defying local health mandates, it is playing out in contra costa county. the pleasant hill burger joint repeatedly failed to verify
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24 past the hour, let's turn to the latest on the pandemic. the cdc has updated its guidance to say that people with compromised immune systems can now receive a fourth covid shot at least six months after receiving three shots of an mrna vaccine. the goal is to prevent waning immunity for the 2.7% of people who are immunocompromised. dr. ashish jha serves as dean as the brown university school of health. who should be getting the shot and when? >> good morning, thanks for having me here. yes, this is a very tiny portion
of people who are very profoundly immunocompromised. the vaccine doesn't work super well for them and they may be people who need vaccines on an ongoing basis for a long period of time. again, obviously if you are on medicines that compromise your system, chemotherapy, cancer, talk to your doctor about it. this is a tiny group of americans. >> so is this the beginning of something that will eventually trickle down to everybody, are you saying this is the first kind of salvo in getting a fourth shot or more for everybody else? >> you know, the way i look at it is, i've probably gotten 20 flu shots in my life, i get one every year. could we imagine we get to a point a fourth or a fifth over the next several years, sure. this could be an annual booster for a while. i don't think people are going to need it every six months for a long period of time. all the evidence right now suggests that with the booster we're going to have pretty good protection for a long period of time but i can imagine that this
could become an annual shot for most americans down the road. >> i just got my flu shot on saturday, no problemo. it was great. vaccinating kids, doctor, parents are hesitant but you said you plan to follow the science and get your 9-year-old vaccinated. tell us what played into your decision. >> absolutely. i've been tracking the data closely. i said to my 9-year-old a month ago i think you'll get the first shot by halloween. i looked at the evidence, what pfizer submitted and it was very good. the vaccines are exceedingly safe, the most studied vaccines in the history of humanity and kids do get sick. 700 children have died from covid so when i look at the risk and benefit for my 9-year-old son, it's not really a close call, the benefits he will get from the vaccines farr outweigh any risk he has. >> doctor, thank you for being with me. i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. latinos are suffering from
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america's mental health crisis worsens. morgan radford is here with me, co-host of noon to 2:00 p.m. eastern hours on nbc news now. morgan, what are our communities facing and why does there seem to be such a disconnect? >> it's interesting, that disconnect is happening for a number of reasons. even anecdoally you and i have seen this trend across the latino community, higher levels of depression and even thoughts of suicide since the pandemic, but now many are sounding the alarm saying latinos need more resources, resources they deserve to get the help that they need. raquel is a beacon of light for her afterschool students. >> what did you learn today? >> reporter: one she wishes she had. >> i felt nobody understood, i felt like i was standing in the middle of the busiest street in the world but nobody could see me. >> reporter: just four years ago, raquel attempted to take
her own life. what happened that day? >> i had already been struggling for about a year or so with depression deeply, and when the opportunity showed up, i took it. in that moment, it made me think what had i done? >> reporter: and she's not alone. a cdc survey found the latinos in the u.s. reported having suicidal thoughts at a rate four times that of non-hispanic whites and higher rate of depression than any other racial or ethnic group. has the pandemic made things worse? >> definitely. >> reporter: raquel's mother says finding treatment has been hard. do you think there are barriers for latinos? >> um-hum. >> reporter: who are seeking mental health? >> there are so many. starts with culture, we need language. we need people who the required language skills to help our
people. >> reporter: a gap health experts have noticed, just 5% of u.s. psychologists are hispanic, despite the fact that latinos make up more than 18% of the u.s. population. have you seen a demand for mental health services increase among latinos since the pandemic? >> i think so. >> reporter: this doctor is a pediatric psychiatrist working hard to change that. why do you think the latino community has been hit so hard during this pandemic? >> besides access, it has been also stress on work,s workload have not changed. many of our community continue to work because they have sometimes jobs that are essential. >> mental health became important to me when my daughter tried to take her life. >> reporter: why now raquel and her mother are speaking out advocating for more resources. >> i'm morgan. how are you? >> while wra ra quell works as a school teaching assistant
letting all kids know they are never alone. how does it feel to have someone you can talk to at the school? >> it feels nice. it's like i can stop hiding my feelings. >> reporter: do you feel better after you get to have those discussions and talk a little bit? >> yes, even if i'm happy, i feel more better. >> reporter: helping others take one day at a time. morgan radford, nbc news, hanover, maryland. thankfully more organizations are stepping in to help with this issue. for example the non-profit crisis text line just announced this month it will provide free professional counseling via text in spanish in the united states. you can text "ayuda" to the number on your screen to reach that text line in spanish. [ speaking in foreign language ] and as always call the national suicide prevention lifeline at
1-800-273-talk for everyone, in english. >> thank you for shining a light. so many times our community is reticent to talk about the situation. >> it stays in the dark, and with the pandemic it is something we have to talk about and bring to light. >> thank you for the light. >> thank you for having me. still ahead a big oil executives, are about to be grilled on capitol hill whether the industry spread disinformation about the role of fossil fuels and causing global warming. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" along with morgan radford on msnbc. the tn on the face of the earth. keep dreaming. [coins clinking in jar] ♪ you can get it if you really want it, by jimmy cliff ♪ ♪ [suitcase closing] [gusts of wind] [gusts of wind] [ding]
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huge bill aimed at reshaping the social safety net. with me congressman raul ruiz. doctor, congressman, you ran out of the meeting to give us an opportunity to speak with you. for that, i am eternally grateful. what are you willing to support in the plan that the president outlined this morning? >> the president came in with such force and leadership, it's a transformational vision and this bill is not a safety net bill. this is a rocket booster job growth economic bill that's going to help american families get back on their feet and running with the provisions that are in this. i am so excited about the universal pre-k and the child
care augmentation, allowing mothers and american families to get back to work with peace of mind. i'm so excited about the closing of the medicaid coverage gap extension of the aca hearing and the medicare. that allows individuals to get the care they need, stay healthy so they can stay in the workforce, reap the benefits of the income that they have. i'm so excited about so many provisions of the bill that even one of those as a standalone is going to be transformative. >> congressman, be our eyes and ears. you gave us a picture there, but how was it? what was the format? how did it go? >> it went well. the president walks in there's amazement the president of the united states is coming to help us close a deal. there was a very strong sense of optimism and he really laid out not just in policy but why it
was important for him and why it was important for the american people. he talked about his life story about the struggles with his father not being able to make the bills. he talked about his inability to own a home during the time when his children died and he had a commute via amtrak back and forth from work and how we need more rail and how american families are struggling like him in order to get ahead in life. all of the provisions go back to the fundamental reasons the american people are in need of help and this is a rocket booster that will be transformational for all of us. >> congressman, your colleague in the congressional caucus garcia said he would not vote for the bill if it did not include a pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants. how do you feel about that? >> amen for chui garcia.
he's passionate about this cause. right now what's in the bill is a change of the registry date, that is a pathway to citizenship but you know what? we're not going to just be confined to draw lines in the sand. we're going to be flexible, nimble. we're going to want to make sure the parliamentarian hears our chc senators, senator menendez, luhon and schumer to go in and talk about the permits and protections that we need to allow our workers to go to work safely, to stabilize our agriculture workforce and other industries that rely on immigrant labor force to boost our economy, and if that's a go with the parliamentarian that's a go for us. >> congressman, i want to ask you to come back. we need to have this conversation continue throughout the coming days and weeks. i thank you for your time. thanks for being with me this morning. >> thank you. i'm going to go back in now and try to help close the deal.
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we're awaiting for the speaker to arrive. as soon as she does we will bring you that. top executives from major u.s. oil companies will answer tough questions focused on climate change disinformation. the hearing company as exxon and chevron made public statements in support of actions against climate change while working to block reforms behind closed doors. for more i'm joined by josh lederman and fred krupp, president of the environmental defense fund. josh, what questions can we expect from lawmakers this morning? >> reporter: chairwoman maloney is calling this an historic hearing in her opening comments. democrats want to lean into the comparison with big tobacco and famous 1994 hearing where the big tobacco executives all under oath one by one claimed that their product was not addictive. in this case democrats want these big oil executives under oath to admit that their
companies knew for decades that fossil fuels were contributing to climate change but didn't tell the public about it. used tactics saying well, some people think this, that or we need to research this more. the oil ceos have no intention of admitting that they lied. i got a hold of the exxon ceo's opening remarks where he plans to say "exxonmobil does not and has never spread tis information regarding climate change." he plans to go on to say that "exxon's public statements about climate change have been and are truthful, factual and transparent and consistent with the scientific views at the time." now the oil companies will also be emphasizing their own investments in clean energy. if you've ever turned on the television, you've probably seen those exxon commercials about algae and other types of low carbon investments they're making, but the democrats are going to say look, that's all green washing. the committee just released a report in the last few minutes
showing that less than 1% of exxonmobil's investments over the last decade or so have been in these low carbon technologies. now, there isn't going to be any real policy outcome from this, and republicans have been event theater intended to embarrass the oil executives, but rokona, he says he hopes this will lead to a full and to fuel fossil fuel subsidies from the federal government. >> there's members that are clearly hoping to kind of tie this to the big tobacco moment, but this is an industry that employs thousands of people across the country. how do you strike balance of accountability and then protecting livelihoods of these workers? >> well, first of all, you have to hold these oil companies accountable. i'm so pleased to see the congressmen investigating and getting the facts on the table. this is like smoking.
the facts are clear. the risks to human lives are here. it's good. in terms of striking the balance, i think it's important to remember the industry isn't monolithic. some of the companies are acting more responsibly than others. the big thing is today the companies have an opportunity to prove if they want to seem to be responsible. they should support the build back better agenda, the investments in clean transportation and clean energy. and they should walk the talk on methane pollution which we know is dangerous and slash their emissions. >> important to shine the light and make sure the truth comes out. thank you both very much for being with me this morning. coming up y. tens of thousands of afghan evacuees are temporarily living on bases right now. we'll talk about a struggle to be reunited with family next. wit
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by the end of this year. of those already gone, 50,000 are still in resettlement camps in the u.s. living in military bases. there are reports of a lack of fundment tall care at one. in the uk 11,000 afghan refugees are still in hotels. in canada the government is promising to take in about 40,000 but only confirmed the arrival of a couple thousand. joining me now is the co-founder and managing editor of afghan news. what a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with me. you're in canada now, but your family is not. how are they doing? >> thank you very much. good morning. of course it was, it was -- i can't imagine that how it was dangerous, not only for me. for those activists and human rights activists.
and especially for journalists who were on the on the screen and they write about different violations, trades, and tourist behavior and their tourism and violations in afghanistan. and they were recognized by those. they were just ruled the country. that is why i am thankful from canada that at least i have the -- it makes it possible that i am -- the talk about the different aspects of life challenges and especially for a woman that is still suffering from this insecurity. how it was difficult for me that i at least had the chance to have safe -- from propensity. what about the adults, and they
are in a very bad situation in terms of security. it's kind of crisis economically, and mentally they're not even committed to -- and even it means, like, in a trauma, and remind me of -- >> let's talk a little bit about life in afghanistan today for a woman. for a journalist. how is life today and how has it changed? >> the life for journalists specifically, for journalists it's not good. not good news in terms of press freedom and freedom of expression. in terms of access to information. if you see, like, since i am observing and just, like monitor, i'm working, that says taliban come to kabul and take
their overall culture. more than 90% of women, they just sit at home, they are jobless, and they are all there to sit -- they are ordered to sit at home. and more than 80% media are just closed, because of maybe finance and because of the pressure. they couldn't, like, do according to the order of taliban, their provocations. and then they are protesting. it means afghanistan, and since taliban can be at least five journalists, left and killed in afghanistan. including a woman. how is it in two, three months we lost about four or five journalists including a woman? especially a number of journalists was beaten by taliban. it is a nightmare. >> you're talking about these last three months. do you feel in a way you've kind of lost your country?
>> every second i think, of course, the homeland. it is really not -- everything you left everything behind when you're as a civil society or women's right activist, working for -- for long time. you fight for long time. we lost everything. all achievements gone, and we left behind the families, the country, their colleagues, the office. all achievements that committed everything. but the -- it gave me feeling heart because my colleagues and especially women which really they are suffering from this insecurity. they are in a situation, they are just counting the minutes that -- what would happen in the future, because they are still