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right now on msnbc, the deadline with the agenda on the line. house democrats barreling toward what they insist will be a vote on two huge pieces of president biden's domestic agenda. only one catch -- with hours to go, still no deal. leaders in both parties are saying late this afternoon after a huddle just minutes ago together on the hill, and what our sources tell us where things stand and just what house speaker nancy pelosi plans to do over the next few hours. our capitol hill team is standing by with the latest. also live just across the potomac with one week until the one election that might upend president biden heading to virginia and trying to keep that state blue. and any minute, giving the go for pfizer's vaccine for kids. we'll bring you that when it
happens. i'm hallie jackson to start us off. also joined by tony rahm, congressional economic policy reporter for the "washington post" and msnbc contributor. leigh ann, start with you. a lot of questions this afternoon. hearing from key players where negotiations stand, what the sticking points are. here's what some of what democrats have been saying over the last few hours including chuck schumer just a couple minutes ago. >> i believe that we will get this done and we will get it done soon. >> we have made a significant amount of progress and we are almost there. >> the bill must expand medicare to cover dental, hearing aid and eyeglasses. >> we need an ironclad agreement rp to the build back better act. >> what are you hearing and what's the deal with the possible infrastructure vote before the president head overseas later in the week?
>> reporter: democrats are saying what's actually happening is not the same thing, hallie. they're talking optimism but they're far from any agreement. i asked senator warren about a framework in the next 48 hours. they said, absolutely. i said, is that enough to advise progressives in the house to vote for this bipartisan infrastructure bill with just a framework? she said, depends on how detailed the framework is. so that was a sign that they still have a lot of work still to do. for another example, hallie, i just spoke with senator kirsten gillibrand of new york, and i asked her about paid family leave if that scaled back version of four weeks of paid leave will make it in the bill. she said, i don't know. she is working on a brand new proposal on paid leave to present to senator mnchmanchin hoping he would support it.
they are still in the work-shopping phase of some of these outstanding issues and do not have a lot of time left. there's the problems on how to spend the money, which is what senator manchin had problems with and problems how to raise the money to pay for the bill when senator sinema has problems with. the income billion dollar tax idea senator wyden is pushing with senator warren, they say they'll have a paper description of that released tonight. so there are still very, they're very far off, and if they want to hold a vote in the ho us to pass this bipartisan infrastructure bill before the president leaves thursday, it's a very tall order. >> leigh ann, thanks. and the white house is hosting more meetings with key committee chairs. literally as leigh ann was talking looking at an email from your white house team. a colleague shouted to
congresswoman jackie speier, kristen welker says, how close are youed to? turned and nodding implying the answer was yes to maybe having a deal today. this from a group of members of congress meeting with the president today. that seems remarkably ambitious. talk to us what's happening on your end from pennsylvania avenue? >> reporter: right, hallie. we're reading the tea leaves and body language, quite literally nap was the nod that could say how a lot of this stands. it was a member of congress just in a room with the president himself. >> right. >> reporter: we knew that the white house was having these meetings today among seen jer leadership with various committee chairs, and were told by the members themselves that the president ultimately ended up joining that meeting, and we heard a few different things, though, that speak to potential for a deal that's close but also warning signs as were el.
hakeem jeffries, chairmanning of the democratic caucus started his caucus talking ar diversity in the caucus and means it in a good way but it speaks to the diversity of views and how hard when you have thin margins in the house to get everyone on the same page. we also heard from congresswoman judy chu as well who sounded more optimistic. let's listen to her comments from just a short time ago. >> i was just so moved by how receptive the president was, how much he embraced what we had to say, and how he wants to move to make this happen, and i believe this was such an important meeting for us to show our unity behind the kinds of provisions that are in the bill, the build back better bill. >> reporter: stressing unity of the democratic caucus at the microphones there. another interesting line we heard from one of the other members of congress was that the president, this member said, reminded them he was chitted whatever he don't get ins they particular set of negotiations and legislation he's committed
to fighting for in the future and hallie, we got two very clear reminders of the urgency around getting something sooner rather than later. today we see the president later this afternoon going to virginia to campaign for terry mcauliffe, leading with those if washington to get a deal to help their political fortunes and also heard from jake sullivan previewing the president's trip asked repeatedly whether the lack of progress was going to undercut the president's standing overseas, especially focused on democracy, delivering results and jake sullivan answered, well, these other world leaders are sophisticated and know we're close enough but we know close enough doesn't get you there. >> tony, go to you, leigh ann laid this out well. mike touched on it too. what is likely in and what is out of the package and then what to pay for it. one of the way, a billionaire's income tax. some ron wyden talked about a long time.
no text of it, but here's what he said today. i'll play it for you. >> i have not heard a single member of congress get up and say that it is okay for billionaires to pay little or no taxes for years on end. we'll have other proposal shortly, we'll go through it. >> tony, i know you'vin reporting on that possible alternative. what kind of legs does this billionaires income tax have and what kind of support? >> reporter: you know, they're full steam ahead trying to do something with this billionaires tax idea. about the fact there are billionaires with assets they never really sell. so they're collecting income off that and never really paying taxes as a result. senator wyden makes an interesting point there. it is true that if you talk to democrats, aspirationally they say they need to do much more to address the billionaire problem, but there are a lot of democrats who also have raised serious technical concerns with the kinds of ideas senator wyden and
senator warren and sinema put today. talking to congressman richey neil leader of the house's tax ways and means committee and said there were lots of concerns whether this would actually collect the kind of revenue democrats are trying to raise to pay for this package. there are operational concerns. risks about lawsuits that could target the u.s. government's tax powers. it's not really just as simple as writing up a couple pages of legislative texts and we've heard other issues of revenue come up in the last several hours. one would give the irs new power to go after what it calls tax cheats, and a new requirement banks have to report to the irs. we heard senator manchin actually raise his voice about this issue. he raised concerns about any sort of bank reporting mechanism. that adds to the other sorts of polls that democrs that -- hole
have to plug. a common theme you're hearing from all of us, a united front from democrats about the need to get things done and the sense of optimism they can do it, but operationally there's just so much still to address. >> good point, and a good summation. leave it there. tony rahm, thank you, leigh ann called dwell and mike memoli, thank you as well. later in the show talking with one man about all of this, and the point tony made. stick around for that. also coming up, we are all over the campaign trail in virginia where president biden will said soon. he's got those meetings with members of congress. then he's hitting the trail to northern virginia with just a week to go before that state's very close race for governor. president biden may not be on the ballot but it's seen as the first big test of his 307 popularity. and as we speak, awaiting
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in just a few hours from now republican will be back on the campaign trail? virginia today as the current closely watched election in the country, most closely watched, enters its final week. it could affect everything from the agenda to midterms even return of donald trump in 2024. with those stakes as the backdrop, president biden is goal all-in. meeting with mcauliffe for the second time this year. youngkin is making headlines. have you heard this? youngkin, trying to make the claim governor mcauliffe blocked parents from "explicit classroom
material." watch this. >> as a parent, it's tough to catch everything. so when my son showed me his reading assignment my heart sunk. it was some of the most explicit material you can imagine. >> let me see. msnbc steve kornacki is at the big board and posted for the next we'll, maybe more. msnbc reporter ahead of tonight's visit by the president. gary brum bach on the campaign tram following you. talk where things stand now and what we can expect maybe over the next five to seven days. >> reporter: sure. this is the average of all polls now in virginia. got a couple new ones today. throw them in to the average. look at that. terry mcauliffe still up in the average, barely. one point, two points, his margin, and mcauliffe's listing really getting close with a week to go. remember, virginia trending
blue. joe biden won over donald trump by ten points. it's not looking like that race. much closer. you mentioned joe biden coming in to campaign with terry mcauliffe, going to be in arlington county. one of the big reasons virginia is trending blue and what terry mcauliffe is counting on to put him over the top is in large part the area i just circled. northern virginia, big, denley populated metropolitan washington, d.c. and to some extent suburbs around richmond and other parts of the state, but it's the suburbs that moved most dramatically towards democrats over the last generation or so. joe biden racked up enormous numbers. show you here. look as we zoom in on the -- if we zoom in. i got to get practice for this next week. >> the big board misses your affectionist caress. we'll get that. >> reporter: look, joe biden won
81% of the vote right outside washington, d.c. it's interesting. play that youngkin ad. youngkin is also thinking of suburbs right outside washington, d.c. it's not the idea for him, it's not that he's going to win them. gone so democratic in many cases, but can he erode some of that surge that democrats got in the trump era? that ad you just showed had a voter from fairfax county. youngkin at fairfax county. biden got 70% of the vote here last year, but check out the recent history there. biden 70. clinton 65 in 2016. roll the clock back to 2012 when barack obama got re-elected. he didn't even quite get 60% in fairfax county. fairfax county is enormous. like one of every seven votes in virginia comes out of fairfax county. 's glenn youngkin doesn't have to win it but if he can get anywhere what mitt romney got less than ten years ago do that in a fairfax county, he could
win virginia. again, the stakes here could be bigger than just virginia, think of the suburban area, metropolitan areas across the country, next year with republicans trying to win the house of representatives is looking at glenn youngkin here. if he can shave points off a democratic margin in the big popular suburbs, no reason we can't do that across the country in 2022. >> so, talk about the stakes in a second. gary, go to you. you've been on the campaign trail, i know in virginia here with this. we talked about getting ready for the segment that "beloved" ad. classic book. mcauliffe campaign accusing the youngkin campaign trying to plug into divisive culture world that rack wracked some of the areas in virginia. what have you seen out there on the road? >> reporter: hey there, hallie. yeah. the middle of a ten-day,
50-stop-plus tour. spent the morning today focused and policy, on the gas tax and elimination of the gas tax in poor areas of southern virginia where the poverty rate is up 15% of the population. he believes elimination of the gas tax would really help the people that live here. then he's coming here to danville, virginia, tonight. that's where he'll rally but not introduced by any former presidents or any members of congress. he's going to be introduced by people of the likes of school board members, as mentioned. community members. community leaders. that's sort of where his mind is and where his campaign's thinking is but he's focused on policy. here's what he said to me earlier today. >> virginia parents stand up for their children. i mean, by the way, it's a fundamental flight virginia to be engaged in your child's education and terry mcauliffe doesn't believe and said over and over and over again he wants government between parents and their children.
>> reporter: so we have two different strategies here from the two different campaigns. one is bringing in the big guns, bringing in barack obama, joe biden, kamala harris and others one is focusing on community leaders and policy and hoping that can take them over the line. i spoke to glenn youngkin earlier. he said look at the ballot. donald trump and joe biden aren't on the ball knit virginia. it's glenn youngkin and terry mcauliffe. >> fact check true, right? but when you look at the tone of it, nationalization we have sewn on this show. there is a biden/trump effect happening here in this race. talk to us a about the state. >> reporter: that's what democrats strategist and biden advisers want there's to be. they want the trump factor to still be present. one biden adviser said, look for the president tonight to position youngkin as a trump, know, repeat.
look for him to focus on issues like election integrity, the big lie around the 2020 election. look for the president to raise things like this "beloved" scandal and frame it as trying to ban books. at the same time, the president and advisers know they need a message to sell. they need some alternative at this point. nine months into biden's presidency, to show what democrats can do when they are in power. the president does not have the spending bills that he would like to have passeded and signed into law, but it doesn't mean he's not going to try to run on they anyway. look for him to talk about affordable child air, expanding access to health care, universal climate control and he touched how much biden will accept mcauliffe and mcauliffe himself said he believes part of the reason he's not doing bet sir
because of the infighting from washington among democrats and because president biden's approval ratinging are so low, but to whatever extent, having a high-profile figure like the president can drive turnout, democrats believe that will be key, and in a will help them if they can get big turnout in an area like this. >> shannon and steve and gary, thanks for the great, great breakdown. watching obviouied president in virginia late other than tonight. and this show, blackhawks. the general manager just resigned and why we're talking about it. we explain. and why the january 6th committee is one step closers to getting its hands on records in the trump white house. in the trump white house. ♪
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breaking news coming in to us this afternoon from the chicago blackhawks announcing minutes ago the general manager will step down. why? in response to this months' long investigation into along alleged sense wal assault by a former coach against one of that team's players. the assault happened in 2010. the coach implicated claiming the encounter was consensual. now blackhawks are uncovering
even more wrong doing by that coach. brig in miggen fitzgerald. talk about what this investigation found. >> reporter: yeah. hallie, a lot to get to, what these independent investigators were able to uncover. worth noerting owner of the blackhawks says he knew nothing about these allegations until the lawsuit was filed back in may of this year, and then he called in his independent investigators who say they did a economically thorough job in interviews some 140 current and former players and what they found was that in may of 2010 this former blackhawks player reported to management within the blackhawks he was sexually assaulted by video coach blad ut ridge and nothing was done about it for weeshgs. the time frame the blackhawks were playing in the playoffs and then eventually went on to win the stanably cup, and that was the focus. now, with the presence ulrich's
attorney -- >> john doe stated to us unequivocally that the encounter was entirely non-consensual and described graphic details you'll see in the report that were clearly a sexual assault. the blackhawks were made aware of the alleged sexual salt soon after it occurred and failed to act to address the assault. >> reporter: now, of course, john doe is the former blackhawks player. nbc news has tried to reach out to aldrich for comment and we've not heard back but are seeing with a tweet the nhl says they will be fining the blackhawks from $2 million for what these independent investigators have found. back to you. >> meagan fitzgerald live in
chicago. thank you so much. back here in washington. got former president trump in the news today for a couple stories. a some point today we're expecting had imto respond to a long, drawn-out lawsuit on his tax returns. the house ways and means committee hoping to look at those documents. democrats want those papers to make sure the irs was properly auditing presidential returns. then in january 6th-related news, the former president is fighting and seemingly losing a battle to keep documents surrounding the insurrection under wraps. white house counsel saying no way. and january 6th, raising a possibility it could be used in future prosecutions. digging into it all with justice correspondent pete williams and investigate everybody reporter scott mcfarland, both joining me now. pete, start with you. the white house again rejictding the former president's claims of executive privilege. when will we see the farc archives turn over the documents or does former president trump
have more to throw in to block this? >> reporter: nothing the white house has to turn over documents on november 12th, what the archives notified the former president's lawyer in a letter, and that's one of the reasons why the former president has gone to court to try to get an injunction to block it. so the committee and the archives will file al response to the president's request for an injunction this friday, and then the judge will hold a hearing on this on november 2nd -- i'm sorry. on november 4th at 11:00 al. if the judge doesn't act by the 12th, this stuff will start to go to the committee, if issued an injunction, could hold it up and delay it while the judge studies these questions. what the president says is, he what have resuch al executive privilege even as a former president, he still has some and that the committee wants so much material he doesn't have enough time to go through it and make sure the committee's only
getting what's relevant to its investigation. for all of these reasons trump says to the judge, put a hold on this, work out executive privilege and how much time to go through all this and that's what the judge will have to decide, hallie. >> pete, stand by. scott, stay on the january 6th discussion. one of those images from that day was the noose put up on the steps of capitol. now learning that is in federal custody, that structure. why is that? >> yeah, hallie. multiple federal officials tell me that noose, that rope from the gal lows now in the possession of the washington field office of the fbi. pete and i have been reading through thousands of pages of court filings in these cases and not yet seen the gallows reference. there are dozens if not hundreds more cases to come and it closes the loop. answers a question so many have asked. what became of the gallows? one of the more visceral, searing images from january 6th.
hallie, among those who say so, d.c.'s fire chief who tells me that's the most prominent memory he has from that day and knew when he saw it that morning he had to ratchet up his alert for preparation. >> scott, you and we reported d.c. jails are not safe for defendants of january 6th. learning this is leading to release of at least one inmate. right? talk to us a be that. >> reporter: earlier this afternoon a federal judge ordered thomas civic released to home confinement with his parents, accused of assaulting michael fanone and takes his badge and radio. one of the most prominent points made she considers the january 6th wing of the d.c. jail, the so-called patriot wing, to be toxics and is concerned about the jail's keeping those january 6th defendants together in a segregated wing. the defense lawyer for civic calmed it krul-like and says civic volunteered to go into the
hole to get away from the other defendants awaiting comment from the d.c. department of corrections about all this. >> scott mcfarland, pete williams, thanks to you both, great reporting. the world of health. any minute the fda advisory committee to make give the thumbs ip for the nation's youngest kids to get the pfizer vaccine. pull up the picture live. the group getting towards end of a meeting talking about shots for that age group and then they're going to take a vote on the whole thing. a vote in favor of allowing that would set off a chain reaction. the decision would go to the fda itself for full approval. then on to the cdc and its advisers for a final decision. always of it being watched by a lot of parents who want their kids vaccinated by the time holidays roll around. i bring in dr. patel under the obama administration and thank you for joining us. >> thank you, hallie. we're watching with you. >> i was going to say. keeping one eye on the live
stream, one eye on msnbc here. talk through what the most likely outcome in your view, seems to be. >> yes. so all. discussions so far including questions appropriately kind of being asked by all of the advisory members seen to lean towards approving an emergency use authorization for children 5 to 11, pfizer, two doses. three weeks apart, and that does does look like it's going to go through. the first of the several-step relay race, all of which we hope will end up with pfizer shipping smaller vials to get into children by next week. the optimistic timeline. >> no anticipation in many issues if and when the cdc were to take this up? does that move in the same direction? >> yes. so cdc, their role as an advisory committee, hallie, interestingly enough, can't expand what the fda gives them only narrow the language. the fda will give them a 5 to
11, two shots. at that point the cdc could then say if a child has had a previous covid infection, because interestingly enough, hallie, cdc estimates 42% of children have probably been invected with covid. cdc could say previously had covid as a child might be sufficient with one dose but not add until what we hear today. important to remember that. again, i think most pediatricians and doctors are gearing up to be able to offer these shots as soon as pfizer can ship them to our offices and farm sis. >> what has demand been as you talk to doctors in your community as relates to parents? interesting we may be staring down vaccine hesitancy. more than a quarter of parents, for example, said not likely to vaccinate their kids. what have you been hearing anecdotally and how do you combat that, the numbers we're seeing on screen? >> yeah. so you're absolutely right. we are hearing from parents on
both sides. people, even myself included, who really want to vaccinate their children feel the benefits outweigh the risks and are eager. by the way, hallie, that tends to be in more affluent parts of the country, tends to be white populations because we see that disparity play ow and to your point, people that said no matter what they are not vaccinating their children. i think underlining it are two key drivers. one, that people feel that the government or the science or the public health officials and doctors such as myself are under-reporting the risks. that what we're showing on tables and graphs aren't real. also two, it's too new. i don't want to put that into my child. we have messaging and facts to support how to talk ob those two situations. number one in the sense we really can talk about the
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a big social spending bill. the hope, set up a vote as soon as tomorrow on one track of that two-track path. the track being the bipartisan roads and bridges infrastructure bill that leaves outstanding that larger social climate spending bill. i bring in a democrat from wisconsin and member and former chair of the progressive caucus. congressman, good afternoon and thanks for being back on the show. >> thanks so much for having me. >> i'm about to play you a piece of video i haven't watched. risky, but live through this with me. right after that white house meeting my colleague kristen welker asked congresswoman jackie speier about the status of negotiations. this is interesting. watch. >> how close are you? -- today? today? >> [ inaudible ]. >> all right. you could see it, congressman. but congresswoman speier nodded her head yes. seemed to imply there might be a deal today. do you share or optimism?
do you think that's realistic? >> i think many of the issues are close to being resolved. a few things publicly we know are still being talked about. >> right. >> but everyone's working to get this resolution, a good thing, and it will be ready when it's ready. it's important to get the right items in it not necessarily what day of the week it passes, you say a few things. what are the sticking points and get specific for me? get began uler. >> sure. some of the ways paid for, new elements brought up as sources of revenue. >> like the billionaire's tax? >> yes and possibly others. i think medicare expansion is still a little bit in question. >> yeah. >> and i think you know i don't know if this is rumor or not, but family leave portion might still be being discussed. some of those are real important provisions but some measures like i think one of the most important is the child care provision, that no one pays more
than 7% of their income. that's solid. child tax credit, solid. a tax break for 40 million american families. a lot of strong things in this bill. >> we heard from senator sanders earlier this morning who seemed to draw a bit of a line in the sand saying this package would have to include medicare expansion to cover dental, hearing aids, eyeglasses. for you, congressman is that a red line? >> it should be in there. i think that's what we're trying to do is make sure it's in there. my mom's 92. she's in a nursing home and many of her friends and have grown up with people who, if you have issues with your vision or your teeth, or your ears, that's a health issue like anything else and should be covered. for off the reasons i jut stated, it should be there. if someone's trying to take it out i'd really like to hear a strong reason why we should take it out. >> yeah. i mean, that's a question opposed to some of the moderates in the caucus who point to,
perhaps, the crux of this. you say it should be in there. let me ask again. is it a red line jb if it's not in there will are you going to withhold your vote, if that turns out to belong be the case. i haven't thrown lines down on this. i'm trying to negotiate and get to a deal. >> okay. when you get down to brass tacks, do you think a timeline for a vote tomorrow on traditional infrastructure package is, a., realistic, b., possible? >> all i care about is getting the right elements in the bill and it will be done when it's done. other than, i'm a g school major and appreciate the question. i get asked it several times a day but no one in my district asks that question. only if child care will be paid with only 7% of their income. i'm focused what's on the bill i. didn't set that deadline. tomorrow? right? that's democratic leadership said they wanted the bill on the floor maybe as early as tomorrow. >> one thing i've learned in nine years of congress, we only
operate on deadlines and that's why they're thrown out there. in reality what i care about we get the right things in the bill. we're so close. get it across the finish line in a way that benefits the most americans as possible. >> one of the things leadership is saying, alluding to, others on pennsylvania avenue, whatever's not in this package now could be in another bill down the road. tackle them later on. do you buy that? do you think that's feasible? >> absolutely. the president has been nothing but bluntly honest with us when meeting with him. he said his agenda is still his agenda. he had a $6 trillion package and will continue to fight for all of those things even if they don't show up in that bill. he's going to do that through the rest of his presidency and i trust him on his word. >> thank you for being with us and bearing with our questions. appreciate it this afternoon. coming up here on the show, a new biden administration pick, making waves. there she is. what you should know about this
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counties. today, we're in nevada, a wild card that could help determine control of the senate next year. it used to be deep red, but there have been changes and an economic boom. democrats have won all presidential races there since 2008, but in the same time frame, the county has only sent republicans to congress. it's good to see you with our county to county coverage back in action. tell us how this county could maybe determine the future of the state and the senate. >> you described it well. this place is purple. it's not red or blue. when you look at the members for the secretary of state, registered republicans make up one-third of the voters here. registered democrats are another third then another third of voters who are other. you have a senate race coming in the midterm elections in nevada and also the governor election. the governor looking for
re-election. so this county could go either way depending on the issues. it's been changing over the years. for the last two decades. you have a lot of tech jobs coming in from california. companies like apple, tesla, microsoft opening up operations and what's happened with people coming in from places like california, you've had a liberal influence. so it's tipped the balance, like you said. they've chosen a president that's democrat, but they're choosing republican congressmen. it is nonpartisan, but county and city officials are very conservative. this is a swing county that could go either way in the next election. >> live for us there in nevada. thank you. time for a look at what our sources are saying and this one involves republican secretary of state named kim wyman. she criticized donald trump's false election claims. now she's been tapped to head up president biden's cybersecurity
agency. the only statewide elected republican. you might know her name or face from her fight against donald trump's baseless conspiracy theories after 2020. she says she's committed to protecting the committee of elections and is working closely with election officials to bolster this pillar of our democracy. let me bring in ken. kind of an interesting pick. talk to us about why the president, the white house picked her for this job. >> fascinating pick. sources say they want to send the message that election security is bipartisan and wyman is not just a republican. she's a nationally renowned elections expert, particularly many the area of mail in voting. and she criticized donald trump way back in 2016 before that election when trump was saying if he didn't win, it was going
to be rigged. so she has a strong record of taking it to trump. after trump began claiming that the 2020 election was stolen, she was very up front. let me read you one of her remarks. she said every time the president makes these flamboyant remarks, it undermines our democracy. she's a moderate republican, very much in the mold of chris krebs, who was fired by donald trump. and we should all keep in mind, threats to our elections have not gone away. there's a lot of focus on voter rights bills and what's happening in the states, but the russians, the chinese and others are still out there trying to hack and spread disinformation and this is a really important role going into these upcoming elections. >> it's not like she's a stranger to fight disinformation. she did that when she was washington secretary of state. >> yeah. and in fact, after she began speaking out against donald trump, she was attacked and at
one point, she feared for her safety. there were stories suggesting she was going to leave the republican party. she didn't do that and now the biden administration, they put a republican in a really important job over election security, trying to send that message again that this should be a bipartisan matter. >> so midterms. there's elections before that obviously next week, but feels like midterms will be a big sort of test or at least putting her on that national stage, huh? >> i think so. and you know, i have not heard much in terms of worries and threats and for example foreign election interference. the steady stream of disinformation has never stopped. trying to divide us on social media very effectively, but this one, they're not too worried about these midterms, but this next presidential election, particularly if donald trump is in it, there are going to be a lot of eyes on the security of the ballots. >> ken, thank you so much and thanks to all of you for
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now one week away from today. it's a race that has largely been nationalized at the most urgent chapter in president biden battle for the soul of america. president biden descending on virginia this evening just a few hours from now, going all in as the race described as quote, both the president and democratic party are embracing the notion that it is in large part, a referendum on their handling of the pandemic and their support of massive government spending programs as well as a broader reputeuation of the january 6 attacks on the united states capitol. it is a race that has captured national attention by encompassing many of the same flash points dominating local and national politics. with donald trump steering his party toward deepening political divisions, culture wars and lies about voter fraud. with the department of homeland security still on guard for how those divisions could incite future violent extremists. democratic candidate,