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choose gorans in two states. the state for mccauliffe's election is said to be in a dead tie. chuck todd will be joining us, we'll get a preview on the new county to county focus, key areas and key states that could help us forecast what to expect in the next election cycle. let's start with a tipping point for the congressional white house. will progressives accept the bottom line on social spending, and will they agree to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill this week. the key sticking points right now, tax increases on corporations and high earners.
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the length of paid parental leave. joining us now is garrett haake, weekend today co-host peter alexander, ashley parker, and robert gibbs. garrett, starting with you on the hill. we heard from joe manchin today. what more can you tell us about where things stand on manchin watch? >> he would be the least of the problems right now. he continues to discuss what his red lines are or are not. and he put a little frame work around his top line spending number that might be useful for people to listen about. here he is talking about the scope of spending. >> i don't know for sure, we're
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all negotiating and in good faith i think you have to keep all options open. i think $1.5 is fair because we just did $1.9 and we did $2.1. >> there you hear a conservative democratic senator talking like a conservative about the money that will be spent here. but from our reporting today the bigger problem may not be the spending, it may be the revenue. i for the life of me cannot square the optimism that a deal come come together this week with so much unsettled about the so-called billionaire's tax that is yet to exist, or other almosts of how it gets paid for like the irs enforcement piece. if we're on the verge of a vote, it is very difficult to see what either chamber would be voting for or whether or not there is
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the necessary, you know, buy in on the house side to unlock that vote. that sounds simpler, but it also seems like a long way off at that moment. >> ashley parker, you wrote about the other senators, senator sinema, she has been the polar opposite to manchin. >> yes, and that attributes to some of the frustration that her fellow democrats have in the white house with her. the sense that it is not clear for the general public what her framework is, where she will or will not compromise. with senator manchin they're willing to give him some leeway. sinema not so, her state is fundamentally purple. the other senator from her state that is in cycle right now is p
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more amenable to supporting these things. one thing we found in our reporting is that there are some people in the white house, and those are the people directly negotiating with her, that say look erin else who is frustrated, that's because they're not part of the process. they don't know because they don't need to know. we think she has been honest and direct. she is detailed oriented. she comes in with spread sheets. so among those core people in the white house talking to her regularly, they are the most optimistic of the entire bunch. >> so peter alexander, excuse me, i get choked up when we talk about this every day. but peter, this is a day before nancy pelosi said she wanted to bring the infrastructure up on the hill. what about the progressives? we have nod heard anything from bernie sanders in a few days
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since we now now that, you know, manchin was in delaware with the president and chuck schumer, cutting even further back, i mean, it is really getting down to the bones as far as progressives are concerned. bernie sanders gave up a lot and we have not heard from him. >> you're right, there is self imposed deadlines and also the official deadlines. president biden scheduled to go out of the country. there are real pressure points that exist here for this white house. i'm told by jen psaki that the president will host meetings here other the course of the afternoon.
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no specificity. i asked psaki about paid family leave, there was a lot of talk about whether or not it would be included in any form in the reconciliation bill, and she would not commit at this point. she said the president proposed 12 weeks, it was shrunk, it is unclear if they will get that much. here is part of my back and forth with what she would say. >> these are all components on what president ran on and what he promised and they would all have a huge impact on people's lives across the country. do you want to be part of that or part of nothing, those are the alternatives. >> if you don't get that who should these democrats hold accountable? >> i think we're talking about the realities of governing, negotiating, having 50 members of the senate, not 60 members, and we're still on track to get
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a historic package through congress. >> another key element they're trying to get passed ahead of the president's departure is those environmental climate change proposals that the president has laid out. we know some of those that will not be in there, including one that would include some fines on companies if they didn't moea'i way from fossil fuels toward cleaner energy sources of the future, but we asked jake sullivan, the national security advisor about this specifically and whether or not it would weaken the president's position as he goes overseas to rome and a climate meeting in scotland. for these world leaders, they are "sophisticated" and they understand these are complex negotiations. but it certainly takes a little away from the president's ability to make that hard sell when he gets there. >> the u.n. is now pointing out that all of the countries are falling far short of the goals
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they need to have any real effect nearterm or long term. >> are you seeing similarities and would passing these bills now be enough to save terry mccauliffe. >> he believe that's it would be a boost to him. i think it would be a boost because these are going to be base turnout elections. one thing i would tell democrats is that look, the biden plan is way ahead of where obama was at this point. we didn't sign health care reform until mid to late march in 2010. so i think they made remarkable progress. the other similarity that i see, and i think you will watch and you will see this happening with
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the way that jen is answering questions. you have to mess aaway from the process that is sort of what has been covered for the past few months, and talk about the wlakt impact that it will have on people's lyes. i think that will be extraordinarily important. between this plan and health care reform, you have seen elements of this. we're in the rescue plan, in this legislation, that are really impacting people's lives today. they can feel it, health care reform is still a few years old. >> peter, i want to bring you back to the point of whose fault is that? it wasn't the media that kept talking about 3.5 or 2.5. it was the white house, the hill, and the president was not out there, did he shift too high as a negotiating strategy and
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everything becomes how much is he falling back rather than how much is he achieving. >> i think you're right. that is why jen psaki said to me today the alternative is not 3.5 trillion, the alternative is zero. they want to demonstrate a transformative agenda and bill. but as you see the reporting, as we hear from our friends garrett and others covering it right now. those items being willed away. among democrats in the negotiating process it leaves frustration that they're not getting some of the things. so, as you noted as robert just said, this is a real challenge for them and the polling demonstrated as well that really a thin number of americans really recognize that they stand to gain, or what they stand to gain, from these polls right now and that is one of the messaging challenges they face at this
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late point. >> before you go i also want to raise another interesting story that you wrote this week in the washington post about the level of vulgar signs around the country against president biden that we did not really see during the campaign. there was opposition, but it was not this terribleness that really reflects the toxicity. when he visited scranton, pennsylvania, he was greeted at the corner of biden street by a woman homing a handmade f joe biden sign with an american flag as the vowel of offending world. another sign, f biden and f you for voting for him. that goes beyond, to a new president, do you think this is
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wrapped up in the whole trump refusing to concede january 6th? is that where we're at? >> and in response to that, i received a long line of vulgarities and vitrial. president biden is not the face the vulgarities, but what was so striking to me as we travel the country is that a year after the election that joe biden fairly won you see these yard signs not just protestors, they're signs that people have taken the time to hand make, buy on amazon, put in their yards, and his biggest political super power is that he was generally inoffensive and well liked even by those that didn't necessarily vote for him. >> really a striking story for
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some of us that have not been out traveling as much as you have around the country. thank you for your insights, to all of you, thank you so much. every someday a critical day. and shot of hope, shots for young school children that could be fully vaccinated by christmas. will parents get on board? this is andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. msnbc living with bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place... ...and be hard to manage. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. latuda is not for everyone. call your doctor about unusual mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts.
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a potential game changer for the pfizer vaccine today for kids. the shots could be available in the next week. children accounted for a quarter of covid cases last week. according to a recent survey, a third of parents want to wait and see before they get their children vaccinated and a quarter are dead set against it. >> it is so mild in kids. why even risk it? >> for a little child, their immune system is still developing and they need more time. >> i think it is social responsibility to get vaccinated. >> joining us now is dr. john torres and dr. saline gauder. dr. torres, first, give us corrected information for those parents about how children can get sick and actually get sick
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and die from this. kids can get it and they can also be a-symptomatic and bring it home to parents and grandparents. yeah, initially it looked like children could not get sick as easily, but they do, and we're seeing more and more children's cases now than ever before. so it is very important that do get vaccinated, this age group. they can get sick but they can also spread it to others and that is a big concern as we get to this point in a pandemic. we think we have a better handle on it and we want to do better and better. >> what about the parents that still want to wait and see? they're just not sure, they might be persuadable. what do you say to them? >> i think the reason that many
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parents are hesitating, and these parents themselves may have gotten vaccinated, they're still not convinced about the risk/benefit tradeoff. this is not a benign illness. covid is not the flu, even in children. some 8,000 kids and children are hospitalized in the past year. about a third of them have ended up in the icu. around 100 kids between five and 11 have died. and when they get covid, it seems to cause more severe illness than the flu. there are really good reasons, but also in terms of being able to keep schools open and have kids be able to go for in-person learning that we know has health and other impacts on children. >> and what do we know about the side effects for kids that got the pfizer vaccine in these
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trials. covid also caused miocarditis at a higher rate. in general it tends to affect younger men and teens and boys they are here and when could they kick in. >> this is something that the rest of the world has been waiting on. up until now, you weren't allowed to come for the pandemic. they are not u.s. citizens coming from other parts of the world. they're going to be tested
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before hay get here and that is within three days of getting here and they will have to get tested three to five days after being here and they have to make sure they have vaccines accepted by the cdc or the world health organization. that will start again and you will see more people coming into this country here. this is going to be a huge change and i think you will see a bigger influx of people here, and both to travel for leisure and business. >> do you have any concerns because there has been a new variant that caused a lot of concerns. >> any time you have traveling open up it will increase the risk, but i think they have a good handle on it. you want to start opening up big things again. that is important for businesses and for life, but at the same time trying to keep it under control i think by having vaccine requirement that's is going a long way to making sure
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that that is under control, getting them tested before they come here could help as well. i would not be surprised if we could see cases occasionally breaking through. i think they're doing this the right way and i think they're opening up and that is something that will need to happen at some point because it sounds like november 8th is the point they picked. >> coming up, red flags. safety concerns on the set and the assistant direct near handed alec baldwin that gun in is a andreamitchell reports on msnbc. reports on msnbc. but i'm coming for him. happy halloween michael. riders, the lone wolves of the great highway. all they need is a bike and a full tank of gas.
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the northeast is being slammed overnight and today again while millions are under flood warnings, they have declared states of emergency and the west coast is assessing damage from a bomb cyclone other the weekend. bill, you had quite a night. what are you seeing on the east
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coast and the effects on the west coast. >> yeah, heavy rain and thunderstorms all over my house. and i was very curious. and this, thankfully, was no ida. that was good. we had some problems, we had a really slow morning community, we made it through it. there was a lot of heavy rain. i have not heard reports of any rivers coming out of their banks, so that is good. rainfall totals have been as high as four to five inches. what was different is we didn't have any really heavy rain before this storm if is kind of dry in this region into that really helped when you start with rivers and stream that's are low it takes awhile to build them back up. we had two storms, not just o first is the big rainstorm.
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now we're going to part two, this is what we call a bomb cyclone or a nor'easter. we have flood watches that are still up. some of these are starting to be dropped around philadelphia. new jersey and new york will still be dropped soon, too. it is shifting northwards and later tonight from boston to the cape. the real story from here on out we have high wind warnings. put ice in the cooler, everyone from boston down to the cape and the islands and southern portions of rhode island. your winds will really crank. we could get winds from 70 to 80 miles per hour. we had a storm like this two to three years ago and people lost power. that is what is possible later on tonight. >> thank you, bill. there are calls for sweeping
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changes for movie and tv productions including to ban lethal firearms entirely from sets. miguel allmagaire has the latest. >> people have been leaving here with bags of evidence with firearms and spent ammunition cases. we're going to learn what went wrong. >> on indefinite pause as sheriffs look to determine what caused the fatal accident. >> two people accidentally shot on a movie set by a prop gun. >> the shot fired by alec baldwin from a prop gun he believed was safe. my heart is with halayna and her
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family. the shot also wounded director joel susan. according to a search warrant affidavit, he was given the gun by dave halls who grabbed one of three prop guns set up by the armorer off of a cart left off of the instruction because of covid-19 restrictions. neither halls or the armer gutierrez reed, have spoken. it's not the first time he was accused of not practicing safety with firearms. only the armorer or the prop master should be handling weapons on the set, not the assistant director. >> i would have broken fingers if they picked up a gun off of
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my cart. >> the difference between a bank and a live -- blank or a live round is simple. >> it takes seconds and there is no reason not to do it. >> the veteran prop master says he sensed warning signs before filming began. >> he says one big red flag that was producers took two distinct and challenging jobs. assistant prop master and armorer and combined them into one. >> i impressed that there was great concerns and they did not respond to my concerns about
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that. >> hutchen's death. >> there has been a push to ban the use of real firearms. that is something they will continue to talk about in the days ahead. >> changes ahead, but too late, tragically, for halayna. chuck todd is here with our county to county rollout here on andrea mitchell reports here on msnbc. l reports here on msnbc. where does it go? does it get tangled up in knots? or fall victim to gravity? or maybe it winds up somewhere over the bermuda triangle. perhaps you'll come up with your own theory of where the stress goes. behind the wheel of a lincoln is a mighty fine place to start.
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many of those concerns are being felt in virginia where in just one week voter wills be choosing a governor. there is also voting in new jersey. joining me now is chuck todd, host of "meet the press daily" here on msnbc. sorry, chuck, itself good to see you, thank you for being with us. you're focuses on the roll out in seven counties across the country. what is the common thread in the way you chose these counties. so what are you specifically looking at, say there, and in the moderate win of the party? >> i look at it this way, right? we have seven counties. one pure swing county city duval county in jackson, florida. three are light blue to dark
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blue, and three are light read to dark read. these are counties, a county in ohio, that is basically home to your college educated republicans. some call it the country club republicans or the chamber of commerce republican. i think you get the idea. trump has performed poorly. and he underperformed what he did in 16 and 20. so you look at that ohio senate race, and you have a josh man dell, i think delaware will be as important as any in the country to understand that specific senate race, andrea.
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>> and let's talk about virginia. i'm so caught up in virginia and i know you have done the big debates, you have dor it'd for years and years and you will be handling our news now coverage on tuesday night which we're all excited about. let's talk about virginia, terry mccauliffe. he was well liked. maybe that is the problem. certainly being dragged down by joe biden's declining polls. and another poll went to 46-46, is this a slap? >> you bring up mccauliffe's experience. i don't know if it is as much of a coverage. they're not happy in general,
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and you know what, it is new blood versus old blood with particularly middle of the road voters. i do, i, you know, i think in fact that the youngk eerks n campaign has not treated him -- i thought he would be the more old versus new, he has not run a campaign like that, but that is, i think, one or two points of a deficit there. he still has more potential voters than youngkin does. he still has the ability to change the electorate. youngkin has to still hope that the turnout is not that good. that's why at the end of the day you would rather be mccauliffe
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than youngkin. what would the dropoff be from the presidential race to this race? if it is in the 40s, this will be a long night. if it's in the 30s, it will be very fast election with advantage mccauliffe, so it is really about what will be the fallout. >> and how do you get them excited when they're so tuned out on politics. >> and burned out. >> with the infrastructure bills, this has not helped the reputation of the democrats not being able to deliver anything. >> and the first time he was the nominee, and he won, his first oregon's race that he won in 13,
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the last month of that race it was over in september. he was much too conseconservati right? and then we had this shut down, the missed up rollout of health care.gov. i think the perceived dysfunction of washington right now is not helping him, which is why he went on your show last week? maybe two, and just went off on the whole process, right? he didn't go off on specific ideas, it was the whole process. he has been through it before and it almost cost him against a candidate far less talented then glenn youngkin. >> he endorsed him, but he has run away and trump called him to
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a rally that he didn't even attend. >> every republican in the country that has not stiff armed trump yet that is on the ballot in 22 is watching to see if youngkin can do it the way he has done it, right? he created distance without denouncing. is it possible in a light blue state like virginia? we will find out next tuesday. >> light blue state with a red fleece. you're on top of it, thank you so much. stay tuned for more ahead on "mtp daily." >> and are social media giants doing enough to keep our children safe? congress is getting pushed further towards regulating the industry. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc.
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additional protections against young people to protect them further. >> do you support it or not? >> i think we would love to talk to you a bit more -- this is just what drives us crazy. we want to talk, it has been out there for years and you don't have a view on it. >> i think there are things we want to work on with you, senator. it is great to see you both. can we hear anything from the executives today relating to additional protection that the congressional leaders and the senators want? from lack of consent to being adetectived -- addicted to platforms. >> whether or not it is harassment and bullying or age
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inappropriate con opportunity, but they were deeply troubled by supporting something like this. one protecting 13 to 15 year olds to dive them more control over their data. one is the amplification of harmful content. a third piece lead by john thune called the filter bubble transparenty act allows them to not generate by a secret algorithm. i should say it is important to know that congress doesn't need their permission to legislate. they will have to decide the extent to which they will separate the inherent tension between the parties that want to grow their platforms or not.
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>> kara, you have been a path breaker on criticizing facebook, what about these children's platforms and the parents, what needs to be done here? >> i don't know, >> i don't know. at this point i don't mind the executives are doing this in congress. it is up to congress to act. they've been doing nothing forever from the beginning of time of these things and have never done any laws or rules that protect children or privacy or data or deal with misinformation. it is time to stop making speeches like that one and do something and pass the legislation. that is their job. at this point it is the job of legislators and lawmakers to do something about it. and there's lots of different bills out there all through congress and they should pass at least four or five of them that are really substantive in a lot of ways and not keep asking, doing these kind of gotchas with
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social media executives. it has gotten tiresome at this point. >> if the past congress -- there were some famous exchanges where -- >> yeah. >> the members and the senators had no idea what they were talking about frankly they were so unfamiliar with the platforms. was today's hearing a better example of people more informed? certainly senator markey knows what he talking about, senator blumenthal and these guys. >> yes, that's sort of a kenard that they don't know what they're talking about. some people don't. senator klobuchar, i just did a big interview with ken buck who is a republican. and others. they know what they need to do and their staffs are very up to speed on this. they regulate everything else and they can regulate this. one of the things is they have to act and pass legislation instead of spending a lot of time scoring points. it's really important. other countries are moving. you have australia just introduced something around children where it is going to require consent from social media companies and we should be
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setting the tone here because these companies are american companies, global companies. that is what is important. our legislators need to act and we have been woefully slow to do so when the rest of the world has asked us to and has been doing things themselves. >> thank you both so much. coming up first shots. the unsung heroes many of them women behind the fastest vaccine ever created. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ♪ feel stuck and need a loan? move to sofi
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28 million children ages 5 to 11 could be weeks away from being eligible to receive their coronavirus vaccines. could be actually next week. it is a major step toward ending the covid pandemic and a testament to the decades of science that paved the way for a vaccine to be developed so rapidly. joining me is the author of the first shots. he joins me now. first of all congratulations on this fascinating book. you've chronicled the race to get a vaccine, pfizer ending up winning despite being initially hesitant to join. how did pfizer get in the game? and let's talk about operation warp speed and the effect it had on america's access to vaccine? >> sure. pfizer is a big pharmaceutical company and i think emerging infectious diseases have always been a kind of market failure. you don't want to take all of
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your scientists' working on popular things like flu vaccines for a disease that might just pop up and vanish. pfizer sat back on the sidelines while the smaller players like moderna were busy working on their mrna vaccine. as i described in the book i think it's in march, moderna had just vaccinated its first clinical trial subjects, you know, night passes, and the next day pfizer issues its press release that they are joining forces with a german biotech to go after the coronavirus as well. so that was kind of a big foot move there and then they just raced to catch up with moderna and eventually surpassed its competitor over the summer during the final clinical trials. >> in fact, it was, you know, from the military to hhs it was a number of people who were really outsiders from the trump
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world who came together to push operation warp speed and sort of avoid getting canceled by white house interference. if anything, they had help from jared kushner. >> the operation warp speed, you know, the feather in trump's cap, was actually indeed created by some of the folks like bob cadillac who ran this obscure office in the health department called the assistant to executive preparedness and response and the department had 800 people compared to say the cdc with 10,000. and he was constantly on the verge of getting fired. he was reviled in the media. it was kind of in april when it became clear we needed a solution that he started working with a guy over at the fda in crafting the plans for operation warp speed. i always find that so ironic
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that this hated man was at the center of this incredibly successful program. >> there were so many women scientists so instrumental, this woman i met and profiled as well as this extraordinary researcher, lead at the nih. two women who were outsiders really and each had critical roles. >> yeah, i mean, that is the amazing thing. in particular, she was working at the nih, you know, in the very early days of the outbreak it's just her and a few students, vaccinating mice. who would believe that would come to be what saved the country and brought us out of the pandemic? but she was a dedicated scientist and we have to thank her for that. >> and she had been sidelined for years and years and then was paired with drew wiseman and together they were successful on the mrna.
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fascinating book. you know, the book is "the first shots." thank you brendan borrell for bringing us the story of some of the people really behind the scenes who deserve so much better for the success. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online, on facebook, and on twitter @mitchellreports. chuck todd with "mtp daily" starts right now. welcome to "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd. if it's tuesday, it is a big deal today, we're watching something big here at "meet the press" and across all the platforms of msnbc a start of a year long project, county to county we call it to make you inside the most important often most misunderstood story in america, the amazing political realignment this country is going

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