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and for her, voting right now is an act of hope. take a listen. >> i would want them to know that we are typical. we are the ones who go to work every day, we fight for what we need. and we need to know that the people who we are sending there are doing the very same thing, that they are working together to do the things that they were sent there to do. >> all right. and a quick correction, ellison is in chattooga county, my mistake. ellison, shaq, thank you so much. we'll continue to track these counties over the next year. that's where voting matters. thank you all for watching. that wraps up this hour. i'm stephanie ruhle.
jose diaz-balart picks up coverage right now. good morning, it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. beginning right now on capitol hill, top executives from social media acts will answer tough questions on how their platforms affect younger users. also happening today, a potential game changer for parents. the fda is going to consider the emergency use authorization of the covid vaccine for children ages 5 to 11. we'll ask dr. vin gupta how soon kids could get the shot. meanwhile, extreme weather on both ends of the country. a nor'eastern is drenching the northeast, bringing flash flooding across the region, while the west coast deals with the aftermath of the bob cyclone. and if you can believe it, we're just one year out from the 2022 midterms. we'll take a deep dive into one of the seven counties we're keeping an eye on in our county-to-county reporting
project. and we turn now to capitol hill, where tiktok, snapchat, and youtube execs are in front of lawmakers for the first time to answer questions about safety precautions for younger users. the hearing comes just one day after internal documents from facebook reveal the social media giant was aware of its harmful effects on young users. with more on this. i'm joined by nbc news national political reporter, sahil kapur. sahil, good morning. what kinds of questions can we expect from lawmakers today? >> reporter: jose, i would expect a series of themes running through the senate committee that is expected to grill the chiefs of tiktok, snap, and youtube. now, some of these are fresh faces. the heads of tiktok and snap in particular have not appeared before congress to discuss these issues. and there's been so much focus on platforms like facebook and twitter instead. i would expect a lot of focus on
what the top democrat and top republican on this committee call the harms and dangers facing children online. i would expect questions about bullying and harassment. i would expect questions about what they're doing to make sure that kids are protected in terms of their data and their privacy. also, the issue of parental control is highly likely to come up. one senator in the chamber who is not on the committee offered some free unsolicited advice to his colleagues. let's put up a tweet by senator marco rubio about this. talking about how -- talking about what he calls the false promise on snapchat that their photos disappear and whether that leads children to make decisions that they will regret down the road. they want to know -- he is suggesting that they ask about parental controls on this website, just skimming the opening statements of these two ceos. they are likely to talk about the steps that they are taking on these various issues, as they come before this committee. the big question, of course, jose, is what congress is going to do about this. lawmakers have proven quite adept at hauling in ceos of tech
companies, kind of furrowing their brow and chastising them for the wrong that they do. but are they going to make any policy decisions? are they going to legislate to try to do something about what they describe are serious harms and dangers facing children online. >> that's already starting right now as we speak. thank you so much for being with me. happening today, the fda is meeting to consider a lower dose pfizer vaccine for kids ages 5 to 11. experts say the kids could get the shot as early as november. meanwhile, moderna is set to seek approval as well as new data from its trial shows positive results for kids ages 6 through 11. joining me now is dr. vin gupta, a pulmonologist and a policy expert, also an msnbc contributor. doctor, always great to see you. what can we expect from this fda meeting today? >> good morning, jose. what they're going to do is they're going to pore over safety and effectiveness data for the pfizer vaccine in
children, less than 12 years of age, specifically 5 to 11. and jose, for all of your viewers out there of parents, wondering, is this a safe vaccine for their children, i know that's top of mind, the data that their going to be presented and pore over is going to show that it's extremely safe. there's been no incidents of myocarditis that really mild inflammation of the heart muscle that we heard about a few amongst, in older teens and younger adults. none of that was happening with this reduced dose of the pfizer vaccine. a third of the dose for 5 to 11 versus what we give adults. so 33% of that dose still is very effective, but also very safe. really important to emphasize that to parents. >> doctor, how widespread is this data? in other words, how big of a group did they get this information from? >> they looked at 2,300 children. 1,500 got the vaccine. 700 got what we call the
placebo. they didn't actually get the vaccine. but it was a randomized control trial, the best type of clinical trial we have. and those that got the vaccine, again, got a third of the adult dose. 16 kiddos in that placebo arm got -- actually tested positive for covid, jose. three in the vaccine arm got it. so it was 91% effective, the vaccine was, at preventing a positive test. i should note, for all of your viewers, that nobody in either arm actually developed severe covid. we know that that's rarer. still, 16% of all cases in the united states are amongst children, number one. number two, in places like idaho and montana, 4% of hospitalizations are accounted for by kids. so this can still -- covid can still result in children ending up in the hospital. but i will say for this specific trial here, 91% effective at preventing mild symptoms, a positive test, really important when we think about keeping schools safe and healthy.
>> doctor, there's also lingering questions about the booster shot for eligible people who got johnson & johnson, so what booster should they get? and when should they get it? >> two months after you got your first shot of j&j, so for most americans who got the one shot, they're probably two months out already. i strongly encourage them to get a second shot of an mrna vaccine, to not get the second shot of johnson & johnson, but to sub it out for a mrna vaccine. it's very safe based on both our own experience and global experiences, but really shoots up your level of protection in a way that that second dose of j&j just does not. >> that's interesting. the biden administration, doctor, laid out plans to rope international travel, but it does include a vaccine mandate for foreign travelers, with the
exception of children and people from countries with low supplies of the vaccine. what's the significance of this? >> well, number one, it's an acknowledgement from the biden administration that there are more vaccines that exist in the world than just pfizer, moderna, johnson & johnson. so now we're moving towards a paradigm, jose, of accepting any vaccine as proof that's accepted or proved by the w.h.o. if you've got astrazeneca, you can show proof of getting astrazeneca and meet at the united states. this opens up global travel in a way in which it's been shut down for the last 20 months. this opens us up -- it's the right move here. because we're acknowledging that two doses of all the w.h.o-approved vaccines are still really effective at keeping people out of the hospital. >> dr. gupta, thank you very much for being with me. so important to clarify these questions. appreciate your time. turning now to extreme weather, impacting millions of americans out west and in the northeast, from washington, d.c. all the way up to maine, people are feeling the effects of a
nor'easter, packing heavy rain and triggering a state of emergency in both new york and new jersey. take a look at times square. meanwhile, out west, residents are dealing with the aftermath of a powerful bob cyclone that brought with it record-breaking rainfall and hurricane-force winds. joining me now from queens, new york, stephanie gosk. what's the latest regarding the weather there? >> reporter: hey, jose. it's raining. it's been raining all morning. it's a little bit lighter right now, but it was really heavy overnight. and they expected about a month's worth of rain near new york city, in just a day. there was a flash flood watch in effect. that's still in effect right now in new york. there were some warnings, as well, in northern new jersey. there are a couple of communities in new jersey that actually canceled school just in preparation for this storm. you know, the city of new york was criticized when the remnants of hurricane ida came through, that they were caught offguard and by surprise, by the intensity of it.
that is not the case for this storm. and this storm, let's be clear, is not nearly as intense. but they've had crews out trying to fix some of the problems that they saw back with hurricane ida, including on the streets, clearing out gutters. they brought in water pumps here in this area in queens. 11 people died in their basements during the remnants of hurricane ida. they want to make sure that never happens again. the mayor warning people who live in basement apartments for this storm to get out, to seek higher ground. in new jersey, as well, they've been dealing with issues of flooding with hurricane ida. so far, it seems like there hasn't been flooding with this steady rain. now once it moves out of here, you're going to be dealing with high winds, 25 to 35 miles an hour here in the city. up to 50 miles an hour in long island. and all of that is going to start to push through into the northeast, where you're going to have maine and massachusetts,
particularly boston, with high winds, as this storm pushes through. jose, back to you. >> stephanie gosk, thank you so very much. let's turn now to the latest news out west, in boise, idaho. two people are dead, several others injured, including a police officer following a shooting at a mall. law enforcement exchanged gunfire with a suspect before detaining him and leaving the gunman critically injured. meanwhile, tesla, the electric car giant, made history on monday, becoming one of a handful of a company to reach a $1 trillion market value for the very first time. this came after the rental company, hertz, announced the largest-ever purchase of electric vehicles. ordering 100,000 teslas, sending tesla stock skywards. and in texas, governor gregg abbott signed a bill into law, banning transgender athletes from playing on a public sports team that aligns with their gender identity. the law will impact student
athletes in elementary school through college and will go into effect in january. coming up, house democrats hope to vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill on wednesday. do they have the votes? we'll be speaking to a congresswoman, talking about the very latest and where things stand, next. t and where things stand, next. mm. [ clicks tongue ] i don't know. i think they look good, man. mm, smooth. uh, they are a little tight. like, too tight? might just need to break 'em in a little bit. you don't want 'em too loose. for those who were born to ride there's progressive. with 24/7 roadside assistance. -okay. think i'm gonna wear these home. -excellent choice.
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multi-trillion bill aimed at reshaping the social safety net. lawmakers hope to have an outline in place before president biden leaves later this week for summits in europe, but there are several outstanding issues, including paid family leave, medicare vouchers for dental, expanding medicaid and fighting climate change. and all eyes are on democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia and kyrsten sinema of arizona, who have expressed concerns about the cost of the bill. what's in it and how it will be paid for. with me now, jake sherman, founder of punch bowl news and an msnbc political contributor and susan page, washington bureau chief for "usa today," author of "madam speaker: nancy pelosi and the lessons of power." good to see you both. jake, the outstanding issues that need to be settled are kind of huge and costly ones. how did democrats get this done, given all the concerns and the lack of support for some ideas from people like manchin and sinema? >> yeah, i mean, every single one of these -- the things that
are not tied up, not finalized, these are the core elements of the build back better agenda. these are the core elements of the biden agenda. so to say that they're close to an agreement, as some senators and members of the house have said, is not exactly true, when every single one of the big issues is unsolved. that's not to say that these are easy issues to solve. they're not. but also, in addition to all of those provisions, we don't have any text for this so-called billionaire's tax, which is a tax aimed at billionaires, to raise the revenue for this social spending agenda. so in reality, basically nothing is finalized at this point, and in order to get this infrastructure bill this week, which is what joe biden wants, he had wanted the entire thing passed this week before he went to europe. he's most likely not going to say definitely, but it doesn't seem like he's going to get it. but if he wants this infrastructure element passed, he needs to have a one-page or a
really detailed infrastructure outline for house -- or, sorry, for reconciliation, social spending outline for house democrats to review in order to take that vote and vote for the infrastructure bill. >> and susan, you know, lessons of power, your fantastic book on nancy pelosi, i guess, is a perfect way of talking about, well, the house speaker's power and the lessons in power, she can get things done when a lot of people doubt she could or couldn't -- others couldn't get it done. affordable care act, being just one of them, right? but how big of a lift is this? >> well, it's a pretty big lift. i think it's definitely the biggest lift since the affordable care act. i think it's probably a bigger lift, even that that was a decade ago, because with the affordable care act, she could lose 39 house democrats and still get it through the chamber. now she can lose three, that is almost no margin for error.
and i think, you know, jake is right. people are skeptical they can actually get this done. they haven't decided on how they're going to pay for it or what it's going to include, except that nancy pelosi is in charge. and members of congress have seen her deliver before, have seen her pull rabbits out of a hat, and i think it is pelosi's determination to get this done is the reason that some democrats are a little optimistic that this is actually going to work out. >> and her giving deadlines, is that something that helps her, or is this part of her policy on how she gets things done? >> it has worked so far on this bill, because she has set several deadlines that have come and gone. the real deadline is november 2nd and the virginia governor's race. she understands what the virginia governor's race did in 2009, when the republican won, it signaled big losses for democrats in the midterms of next year.
democrats lost control of the house. she is watching like joe biden that race with great seriousness. and it is no favor to terry mcauliffe, if the democratically controlled congress cannot get at least the infrastructure through by then. >> i mean, it looks like a toss-up right now. 49-49, the latest numbers i'm looking at. hey, jake, senator manchin talked with a group of people last night, including journalists, about just how difficult it is to get things done right now because of the polarization in our politics. just how polarized are things on capitol hill? >> it's bad. and thanks to josh letterman of nbc for reporting that. a bunch of reporters did not report those comments, but josh did a great job in reporting them. manchin is increasingly on an island in a democratic caucus that is progressive, drifting leftward, and he feels, as a democrat, who's bordering on a -- i mean, even in his own words, he said it would be easier this morning to david reubenstein at the washington economic club, he said, it would
be easier if you were a republican, but he would have the same problem with republicans that he has with democrats. this is part of his political persona. he is a middle of the road democrat who is not for expanding the social safety net in his view, recklessly, who is for the filibuster. so he finds himself on an island. it's not as much polarization as it is the democratic caucus drifting leftward, and this leaves joe manchin kind of in the middle. that's what explains all of this. >> jake sherman and susan page, nice to see you both. thank you for being with me this morning. with me now to talk about more about this is democratic congresswoman, jackie speier. a pleasure to see you. it's been a while. >> it has. congratulations on your know show, by the way. >> thank you so much. and i thank you for being with me. you have been such a proponent of paid leave. the initial proposal was for 12 weeks. the president last week said it was cut down to four to get manchin's support, but sources close to the investigation tell
nbc news that manchin doesn't even support four weeks. what do you make of this? >> i think joe manchin is a great leader. i think he needs some help from all of us to persuade him about how critical it is for families. there are 100 million people in this country who work, who have no paid family leave. and it needs to change. as a country, we are in the cellar. we are aligned with the former swaziland in terms of what we offer. they offer less than four weeks. right now, we offer zero, except for federal employees and our military. so, it is -- it is critical for our future. and you've got to remember that parental leave, maternity leave was created in 1913 in france. we are a century behind all of
the european countries in terms of parental leave, child care, and pre-k. this is a transformational package and as susan said, it is bigger than the affordable care act. it is like five or six affordable care acts. and the speaker is a magician. she is going to pull this out of the hat. 90% of the bill is already in writing, so we're down to the last 10%. i'm very optimistic that we'll have a framework this week, and we, may, in fact, vote on the biff, the infrastructure measure this week, as well. >> and congressman, paid leave is just one of the many policies that democrats were hoping to put in this legislation, that have either been pared down or eliminated in order to get the votes needed to get this through congress. but even with that, we're still talking about trillions of dollars in spending. is there a point where this bill becomes so watered down that it's difficult to describe or explain to voters why the price tag is so high? >> so, first of all, it's not being watered down.
these are significant changes in our country. in terms of the infrastructure package, we're talking about the kinds of commitments and investments in rail and highways that we haven't seen in over half a century. in terms of the build back better plan, we are talking about seismic transformational changes that are going to help the families in this country. we're way behind the eight ball in that regard. pre-k and child care -- universal pre-k is phenomenal. only 50% of the kids in this country have it. in germany, it's 90% of the kids that have the benefit of pre-k. child care is more than child care. it's early childhood development. that's why that is so important. the commitment to no more than 7% of your income going to child care is also very important. because right now, it's taking 35% of most people's paychecks. and we have got to change the
way we operate in this country. it's also going to help the economy in big ways. so let's go back to donald trump, where he took a bill in reconciliation, gave the richest one-half of 1% a huge tax cut, and paid for none of it. this package has the components to pay for it. so this is a far better approach than the reckless approach of donald trump. >> and congresswoman, a washington, d.c., police officer michael fanone who was injured during the january 6th riot on the capitol was on "morning joe" this morning. he had this to say as we continue to move forward and further from the insurrection. >> as the facts come to light, whether it's from this commission or committee or any other mechanism or investigation, or even just from the testimony of the individuals that were there that day, that
there's still a great deal of this country that refuses to accept those as facts. and a lot of that has to do with their elected leaders continuing to lie to them >> congresswoman, what are your concerns about facts and lies that continue to be propagated, as we speak? >> well, first, let me tell you that i think michael fanone is an american hero. and i met with him and they were really all dealing with tbi, traumatic brain injury, and we have been successful now in getting all of those officers access to walter reed for tbi if they need it. but to your question, let me say, social media has a huge role in this. social media has been weaponized to expand on the lie and to give lots of misinformation to people and the result is that the big lie continues to be promoted by
the republicans for fear of not having the support of donald trump. there is a cult around donald trump. make no mistake about it. and we have members now that will only ask the question, how high do you want me to jump? they have lost any commitment to the constitution or to their oath of office. give credit to liz cheney for being that one lone voice that has spoken out so strongly. >> congresswoman jackie speier, it's a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with me this morning. >> thank you, jose. coming up, queen elizabeth back to work after her doctors ordered her to rest. she is now rested and back at work. we'll update you on her condition, next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." ext. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark.
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31 past the hour and time now for a check of the headlines beyond our borders. take a look at this. it's been five weeks and counting since the volcano in la palma, spain, erupted and it's still going and going strong. so strong, experts say there is no end in sight. thousands of residents have evacuated. more than 2,000 buildings have already been destroyed. turning and to africa, the united states promised to give hundreds of millions in assistance to sudan's government, but yesterday that plan dissolved along with the
sudanese government. the northern african country was due aid when its transitional leadership was on shaky footing after years of authoritarianism. but yesterday, the military carried out a coup there. nbc's raf sanchez is closely following those developments and joins me now. what's the very latest? >> reporter: jose, good morning. thousands of protesters are back on the streets in sudan today, determined to resist that coup. they are undeterred by the violence yesterday, which saw troops shoot dead at least three people. and they're being cheered on by the ousted ministers of the last government, who were calling for a mass campaign of civil disobedience. the general who led the coup, general berham, was on television earlier today, trying to justify the military's actions. he said the country's prime minister had been arrested for his own safety and would be released in due time. now, there has been a chorus of international condemnation of what the military has done in sudan, and the u.n. security
council will meet in new york later this afternoon to try to chart a path forward in this crisis. jose? >> raf, meanwhile, a young man in cuba was sentenced to ten years in prison for tearing up a photo of fidel castro. >> that's right. this young man was part of those very large anti-government protests we saw in cuba over the summer. hundreds of people were arrested, but this is the harshest prison sentence we have seen yet. prosecutors initially asked for 12 years. the judge gave him ten. this whole trial was held in secret, but pro-democracy groups are demanding the release of political prisoners like this young man. the cuban government without any evidence have denounced these planned protests as an american plot, but the island is bracing
for more unrest and more arrests in the weeks ahead. jose? >> and ralph, meanwhile, there are two royal stories we're following this morning. one out of the uk and the other one out of japan. >> yeah, that's right. a royal double header. the queen is back at work for the first time since spending a night in hospital last week. the queen was back in action at windsor castle, holding virtual audiences with two ambassadors. jose, that is one hard-working 95-year-old monarch. meanwhile, in japan, princess maco, the niece of the current emperor, has given up her crown for love. she has finally married her college sweetheart. she is a commoner, and so under japan's rules, she has to give up her royal status, as well. jose. >> ralph sanchez, thank you very much for those royal updates. appreciate it. coming up next, we go county to county. we're live in nevada in a swing county that could decide the race for governor and senate.
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lolly? bangers and mash? i'm... i'm sorry? i don't have any money. you don't look broke. elton: my rocket is skint! with just over a year to go until the 2022 midterm elections, "meet the press" are traveling across the country. today, washoe county, nevada. democrats and republicans evenly split there. it's a swing county in a swing state. a once deeply red county has seen a major demographic shift over the last 15 years, with hispanics now making up more than 25% of the population. for more on this, i want to bring in nbc's uganda vanagas who's in reno this morning. next year, the governor's office as well as a key u.s. senate seat will be up for grabs.
how could the latino population's growing forces there impact those races? >> jose, good morning. well, the latino vote is always very mysterious in the country, right? you saw what happened in maricopa, it's very difficult to know how many latinos actually come out and vote. it's difficult to know within the community how many are eligible to vote. what we know is that the population here has grown. the number of latino businesses, the number of latino residents has grown tremendously in this county. but it's still developing. we've been speaking to local business leaders here who tell us there is a lack of leadership within the community, but like in other parts of the country, when you talk about hispanics in washoe county, they could be the sleeping giant. we will be diving into that to see how many latinos will be getting out to vote in this county and the new midterm elections. now, you look at the numbers here, this is what makes this place so interesting. 103,000 democrat-registered voters. 103 republicans, but look at the number of non-partisan or other
voters. 106,000 that could vote either way. now, another thing that is interesting and particular about the latinos in this county, as i've spoken to some of the latinos here is that many are actually republican. i spoke to a man who is an immigrant from mexico, he has a furniture store here, he's been here for 20 years and he told me his three sons voted for donald trump in the last election because they felt like they aligned with republicans, but you also have a lot of young, professionals coming into the county from places like california, taking some of the jobs created by companies like microsoft and tesla, which are changing this place, making it much more politically diverse. we spoke to a young woman whose young mother came here for a job, and this is what she told us about the diversity in this place. >> it is very divided, i would say. because the capital is in carson city, just a 45-minute drive. you get -- there's a lot of rural areas, and people that are
farmers, and i mean, that's a general statement, but because this is more of a city, you do get more of a demographic that our younger professionals, but you do have those kind of people that have been here a long time. they're cowboys, they have pharmacy and stuff like that, so they may believe a little differently. >> so final thought here, when you look at washoe county, this is a place that chose president biden, but a republican congressman in that same election. that's how diverse this place is and how it could go either way in the next election. jose? >> gad vanagas, thank you so much. joining me now is chuck todd. good to see you. thanks for being with me this morning. >> i thought guad did an
excellent picture of painting that picture in washoe, it's a fascinating community, which is why we're there. >> and it looks like a three-way split. almost the same number of republicans and democrats, but a little bit more independents, non-partisans. how do you see this going? >> it's actually a trend we're noticing out west in general, which is you see people -- particularly, there's a movement among younger voters, really gen-z, less millennial, of less identifying with either major party. in california, the republicans are number three. right, they come in behind, not just the democrats, but those that align with another party or independent or other. nevada, very much has that independent streak. we've seen it in arizona. colorado has this phenomenon. this really is a -- i would argue, something we've seen grow more out west, but it is a trend that is slowly moving east. i mean, we've seen fewer and fewer people, other than the hard partisans feel comfortable
identifying with either major parties these days. >> and something we've spoken a lot about over the years is the latino vote. sometimes you can't get a feel for how they're going, and depending on where the vote is taking place. >> jose, we really are moving. and if you look at every single ethnic or immigrant group in this country's history, you get to a third or fourth generation, where you cannot sit there and say, oh, the irish, they all vote democrat. the italians, they all vote republican, right? after about the second or third generation, it diversified, if you will. we're seeing the same thing among the latino community. and jose, really, where you live seems to matter more than your -- than maybe your ethnic background, at least if you've been in this -- if you've been here for a couple of generations. so you're seeing rural latinos vote like rural whites rather than rural latinos voting like urban latinos, right? so we're starting to see -- that's what you're seeing more
of, and i think that that's why it is very hard and a mistake for anybody that tries to take the latino vote and put it into one bucket. >> good point. chuck todd, good to see you. thanks for being with me this morning. >> all right, jose. thanks, man. still ahead, as wildfires grow bigger and more dangerous, one lawmakers is proposing raising firefighters' pay. we'll talk to democratic congressman joe neguse about his plan, next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" next on msnbc. watching "jose diaz-balart reports" next on msnbc.
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48 past the hour. as wildfire seasons grow longer and more intense, congress is trying to ease the immense pressure on the federal firefighters to help battle these blazes. democratic congress members, joe neguse of california and katie porter of california, along with wyoming republican congresswoman liz cheney introduced a bill to raise the pay for firefighters employed by the federal agencies to at least $20 an hour. to improve others like health care, paid leave, and retirement. some of those firefighters are getting paid as little as $13.45 an hour. with me now, congresswoman joe neguse, one of the lead sponsors of the bill, the member of the house natural resources committee. congressman, it's great to see you. >> good to see you, jose. >> thank you. tell us about what this bill would do to help federal firefighters? >> well, as you just recounted,
jose, our federal wildland firefighters are woefully undercompensated. it's a travesty, an injustice, and it has to change. in the west, we no longer have fire seasons, because of climate change, we have fire years. we have wildfires raging literally throughout the entire year. amidst all of that carnage you have firefighters risking life and limb, sacrificing so much to protect us, making literally $13 an hour, living in the dirt without any access to mental health and health care benefits, retirement, housing and so forth. we teamed up with representative cheney on a bipartisan bill to change it. to guarantee housing benefits, health benefits and much more. >> it's so true. according to the fire weather
and avalanche center, more than 47,000 wildfires have burned across the u.s. this year alone. the national federation of federal employees which represents many seasonal firefighters says the federal government will roughly need 10 to 20,000 more firefighters to deal with conditions. what would you bill do to help find and attract these people? >> these fires are becoming more pervasive and they're not going away. in colorado last year we had the largest and second largest wildfires in the history of our state both happen in 2020. the best way to recruit folks is to improve the compensation
packages. that means paying them a living wage and implementing various other reforms in terms of housing and health benefits and so forth. it's not just the right thing to do but economically it's the smart thing to do as we prepare for more wildfires in the future. >> thank you so much for being with me. >> thank you, jose. colombia's most wanted man captured. from cocaine trafficking to the assassination of police officers, the take down of one of the biggest drug records. of the biggest drug records. e as that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪♪
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. in a dramatic jungle standoff colombian officials captured one of the country's most wanted drug cartel leaders. he was first indicted in the u.s. in 2009, has since been accused of importing more than 70 tons of campaign. it took 400 armed forces to barrel through the eight rings of security guarding him, comparing his capture to pablo escobar. talk to us a little bit about this guy. >> well, he has been a prolific
drug trafficker, very violent. he has funneled tons of cocaine into the united states, into europe. he's an individual that has killed police officers, soldiers, social activists. he's engaged not only in cocaine trafficking but also the abuse of young females. this man is a very cruel, heartless drug trafficker and i'm sure he's going to be extradited to the united states because he's wanted on charges here in miami and then also in the southern district of new york. >> talk to us about the operation to get somebody like this. i mean, 500 armed officers plus special forces. you have dealt with some big takedowns over your career.
what was it like to get this guy? >> it took a lot of planning. the planning took place on the 15th of this month in bogota. then it was executed very quickly. we knew that he had eight rings of security, of gunmen surrounding him. so it was going to take a huge force of army, air force and then also colombia national police. and they also had air cover provided by helicopters with .50 caliber machine guns that sprayed the jungle area to scatter all of his gunmen. he tried to make it into a forested area, but he was surrounded and he yells out, you've won, to the security forces. this required a lot of planning,
execution and tremendous logistics. >> i'm thinking about when el chapo guzman was arrested. there is a power vacuum which causes a massive increase in violence. how do you see this happening with the arrest of this guy? >> when you take a leader from the organization, what happens is that the cartel will fragment. then all of a sudden you'll have different individuals vying for control of the cartel, which leads to more violence. so this is a time for the colombian government to really attack this cartel at all levels to include the corrupt officials that protected the gulf plan.
so this is a good time for columbian government to move forward efficiently and rapidly. >> always a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with me. >> good seeing you always, jose. excellent program. congratulations. >> thank you so much, mike. that wraps up the hour for me. thank you for the privilege of your time. good tuesday morning. i'm chris jansing in for craig melvin. millions of americans are waking up to nightmarish weather conditions, a nor'easter in the east, a bomb cyclone in the west. we're live with what else folks should expect today. we're also keeping a very close eye on a potentially game change in