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ayman. >> enjoy the rest of your evening, alicia, and good evening everyone and welcome to ayman. republicans continue to block any movement on voting rights. so will democrats finally decide to end the ffilibuster? plus it's a democratic senator krysten sinema blocking president biden's agenda. we'll speak to a former adviser who now calls her an obstacle to progress, and in spite of all that, a deal may be just around the corner. democrats expecting a vote on both the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the build back better bill just in time for some key governor races in virginia and new jersey. an update on those for you. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. all right. so the investigation into the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol took a major step this week. on thursday the house voted to
find former trump adviser steve bannon in contempt of congress after defying a subpoena investigating the riots. nine republicans joined all house democrats in that vote and now that resolution is heading to the department of justice where bannon could face possible criminal prosecution. the investigation into that deadly attack on the capitol, though, is still in its early stages. but if you ask former secretary of state condoleezza rice it might be time to move on. >> let me be very clear. i said at the time january 6th was wrong. i called it an assault on law and order and assault on a democratic process. now, i think what senator mcconnell may be referencing is, yes, it's time to move on in a lot of ways. >> yes. >> i'm one who believes that the american people are now concerned about their what we call kitchen table issues. the price of gasoline. inflation. what's happening in our kids in school. >> now at the same time the gop is actually urging us to move
on, republicans at the state level are actually passing laws that will make it easier for them to do what trump couldn't do in 2020. just this year alone 19 states have passed over 30 laws that make it harder for people to vote. in texas, that state's restricted voting laws were tightened further with new rukzs on processes leak mail-in voting. don't worry. they did include some new protections for partisan poll watchers. over in georgia, that state's republican governor signed a law that replaces the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee decided upon by the state legislator, which, you guessed it, just so happens to be controlled by republicans. now, former president obama returned to the campaign trail today for virginia's governor race, and specifically candidate terry mcauliffe and spoke about the ongoing throat our democracy and republicans like mcauliffe's opponent who can or won't speak
out against these bills. they're trying to make you forget about january 6th rather than forcefully condemning it. >> what are you willing to stand up for? when are you willing to say no to your own supporters? when are you willing to say there are some things that are more important than getting elected and maybe american democracy is one of those things! >> this week alone congressional democrats once again tried to pass legislation to protect american democracy once again they failed. that's despite the bill the freedom to vote act being specifically redesigned to gain bipartisan support. in fact, senator joe manchin tried to negotiate that bill. that bill included popular provisions like making election day holiday and acting automatic and same-day voter registration and expanding early and mail-in voting. but on wednesday not a single
republican, not one republican, voted to open up debate for the bill. met the same as predecessors blocked by a republican filibuster. tonight you're probably sick of hearing about the dreaded "f" word. it's set to throw this into a spotlight again. is there a path forward for filibuster reform in this country. the republican side, no gop lawmakers come out in support of reform. that shouldn't be surprising since they aren't the minority party, but important to remember this. republican had no problem eliminating the filibuster for. see court justices in 2017. this kind of flip-flopping on the procedure rule is not uncommon. no 2017 former president trump urged senate republicans to get rid of the filibuster. before changing course once the gop was out of power. that's when democrats, we know the two senators most vocal in opposition senators manchin and sinema. according to reporting from
earlier this year, the worst kept xri in washington is that the two aren't alone in their opposition. so as long as they hold the line any meaningful filibuster reform is off the table for now, but change is possible. i mean, take a look at president biden. the senator for over three decades, long been a supporter of the filibuster, but watch what happened this week. >> if, in fact, i get myself into, at this moment, the debate on a filibuster, i lose at least three votes right now to get what i have to get done on the economic side of the equation. i also think we have to move to the point where we fundamentally alter the filibuster. >> voting rights. so i'm clear, you would entertain the notion doing away with the filibuster on that one issue? is that correct? >> and maybe more. >> all right. so that begs the question,
president biden. how long can we afford to wait in this country? right now it's a simple choice for those in power. the filibuster or american democracy? it's that simple. joining me now to discuss this, ann moore and people who know what they're talking about, the principal of the black of the future action fund and co-founder of the black lives matter movement and chris haines, professor of political science and national security at the university of new haven. great to you have both with us. alecia and start with this headline from the "washington post." in part it reads no issue is more important than voting rights, goes on to say, "voting rights are not just one more item of fixed ambitious presidential agenda, equal access to voting and state legislators across the country are targeting democratic constituencies putting the same posse agenda the president is pursuing in jeopardy come next election." do you think the democratic
party is failing to meet the moment in the severity of this crisis? >> well, thank you for having me, and absolutely. there's no question that the president and democrats are failing to meet the moment, particularly as it relates to the power that was given to them by black voters. black voters are the reason, a major reason, why democrats have majorities in the senate, in the house, and why democrats are in the white house, and, you know when we were on the campaign trail in 2020, the president and democrats were telling black communities that, you know, if we stood up and pushed them forward, that we would get a whole agenda of issues that we cared about. from voting rights to health care to infrastructure, relief from covid-19, and actually what we're seeing is that all of these things that were on the agenda, all of these things that got black voters to the polls,
are the very things that are being stymied right now from voting rights to police reform. black voters are not seeing the kind of things that we want to see. the reason for that, of course, as you alluded to, has everything to do with the ways in which republicans are using procedure to block progress, and this isn't a recent phenomenon. in fact, the filibuster has been used many, many times to block progress in relationship to civil rights, often for black people. and so i think it's time for the president and democrats in this moment to step up for the constituencies that stepped up for them, but bigger than black voters, it's time for the president and for democrats to step up for democracy. what we know is that democracy is fragile and it's fleeting and this is not a time to play games or play procedure. right now the country is in crisis and we need the party in power to step up to ensure that
democracy can continue. >> and speaking of democracy, professor haines, this is senator angus who recently came around to the filibuster reform. he was on rachel maddow earlier in the week. here what he said about that. watch. >> you can get 41 votes out of the current senate, enough to block any legislation. if you take the states that those 41 senators represent, add all the population together you get 24% of the american people. so the situation we're in now is that 24% of the american people have an effective veto over anything that 76% of the american people think is important public policy. i don't think that squares with democratic theory. >> so, professor, what do you make of senator king's argument there? how does the senate today and the use of the filibuster square up with what the founders intended? we just heard from the senator there, you know, 41 votes is all it takes and they represent
nearly 26% of the population. that is by no means a functioning democracy when minority populations can block the will of 75% or 76% or what have you? >> thank you, ayman, to having me here tonight. the founders wanted our congress to consider these types of legislation in a very deliberate way. especially in the senate, but it's a popular min that the filibuster was a piece of that story there. a myth. the filibuster was never a part of the original constitution and in a lot of ways it was just an accident it came about. vice president aaron burr suggested getting rid of the previous question motion which allowed senators, or house members currently, to cut debate with a simple majority. so, you know, in a lot of ways i think, you know, there's a lot of misinformation about what went on what the founders intended. they intended for a lot of deliberation, for consideration,
but they did not -- i believe, for stonewalling. >> quickly, professor. how do you counter the argument made by some republicans that, or at least some critics of the filibuster saying if democrats do away with it republican will come into power and completely undo everything. whether it's shoring up votes for minorities, climate change or anything else democrats try to pass now, makes it more vulnerable to repeal once democrats lose power? >> that's an interesting argument but that process is already started. in 2013, and '17, we've already done away, already made exceptions for executive nominations, and judicial nominees to be able to pass by simple majority votes. you know? the republicans of mitch mcconnell made it very clear that this is something that they
probably would not think twice about doing. so to not act for fear that the republicans would do the same, it almost seems as if republicans are going to do it anyway. >> to that extent, alicia, how concerned are you if democrats do pass protection of voting rights laws that don't have bipartisan support, two, four years from thousand if they lose control they'll get thrown out the window and we're back to square one? argument, do the hard work now, build the bipartisan support and the ultimately get a meaningful piece of legislation both sides believe and would endure? >> well, i think two things on this piece. number one what we know is that when you win real things for real people, your party stays in power. that has always been the key ticket for democrats, to stay in power, and to get power. and what we need to see moving
forward is them doing just that. win real things for real people. that way, mid-term elections aren't going to be that much of an anxiety-producing process for you. because you know that you've delivered on the promises that you put out during your campaigning. but the second issue here that i think is really important is that, i think what we're not taking into account when we start talking about bipartisanship is that actually the parties have changed drastically over the last decade. this is not the republican party of the 1990s. this republican party has gone to extremes and has become an extremist party. so essentially what you're trying to do is find middle ground between extreme and the center. and that's going to be a much harder process to accomplish. especially when you're not focused on winning real things for real people. that's why at the blacks of the future action sons we're calling on congress and the biden/harris administration to take bold action, or prepare to go home.
that is literally what we can expect in 2022, unless the voters that turned out in 2020 start to see some concrete results, and material changes in our lives. >> let's talk a little about this administration, because earlier this year the "new york times" reported white house officials and close allies of the president expressed confidence that it's possible to out-organize voter suppression. a lot of people think that is not accurate, that it's not possible to do that. have you heard that message from the white house? do you feel that organizations like yours are on their own to solve this issue as the state level and is it even possible to out-organize voter suppression laws in this country? >> it is not possible to out-organize voter suppression laws in this country, just to be frank. what it is possible to do, right? is to flex the power to black voters, hand it to you to get you in position of power you're in right now. i think when we start to say things like out-organize voter suppression at the state level
essentially what we're doing is punting the ball. what we have to do is make sure we're winning real things for real people and it starts with voting rights. if people do not have the ability to make decisions and weigh in on the decisions that shape their lives every single day, that is exactly where we start to see the erosion of democracy. when we look at state ledge laichers across the country we have to understand the conservative movement far out-organized us and, in fact, they have a majority of control, in state houses across the nation. it's up to the federal government and it's up to the president to set the tone for what is going to be the bedrock of democracy in this nation. and we can't keep punting the ball down the field. in fact, that's exactly how we got donald trump. we started to punt the ball down the field, and talk about how it wasn't that big of a deal how we needed to listen to all sides, and that's how we got here right now. somebody has to tell the truth
and somebody's got to set the tone. that's what we've done with the build back bolder mandate and that's what the president needs to do. he needs to make good on the promises that he made to our communities and to voters across the nation, but he also needs to set the tone for what democracy is going to look like and how this country is going to run, and unfortunately, he's falling short of that right now. >> professor haines, one more to you and it's a point alicia brought up and that has to do with the state legislators. is it a little too late? even if you do away with filibuster and pass some type of voter rights act. the way legislatures are redrawing maps same time passing restrictive voting laws that voting rights in the country are being erode and what it on the table now is simply not enough to preserve or democracy? >> in a lot of ways proposing
the freedom to vote act is the bear minimum what is necessaries to combat what's going on in terms of voter suppression. a lot of damage has been done especially by supreme court chief justice john roberts' decision to eviscerate the position there and it really is problematic what is going on. it's necessary, i believe, for our congress to level with what the supreme court was saying, which was, go ahead and legislate voting rights, and the only way to do that at this point is to modify the filibuster is to modify standing precedent of the senate rooms and allow for majority votes, carve outs for things like voting legislation and election legislation. >> trying to ring alarm bells on this show, the biggest threat is getting anything done and things to preserve our democracy like voting rights is the filibuster and why we wanteds the spotlight
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house democrats expect a vote next week on both bipartisan infrastructure and president biden's build back better bill but no deal yet to be clear. in thanks to no small part in opposition from arizona senator kristen sinema the lesser known mention of the duo but unlike senator joe manchin hails from the red state of west virginia, arizona trending blue, and sinema's beginning to experience what the "new york times" describes as a "crescendo of anger and pressure" allies
saying they are perplexed by her recent tactics. on thursday five members of the senator's veteran advisory council resigned accusing her of being one of the principle obstacles of progress because she refuses to back provisions of president biden's agenda. the group says support veteran communities and protect the very heart and soul of this nation. here's a bit of the ad released by the veterans' group. >> as members your veterans advisory council we feel we are being used as window dressing for your own image and not to provide council on what's best for arizonans. are you choosing to answer to big donors rather than arizonans? you are a no-show on the vote to establish a commission to investigate the insurrection. these are not the actions of a maverick. as such we respectfully resign from your council. sincerely -- >> dana.
>> call on senator sinema to support the buy back better act now. >> my next guest worked with senator sinema since her days and advertised him as a proud member of team sinema, but this week the former green beret was one of the five veterans who left the team and he joins me now. david, welcome and thank you for joining us. appreciate you making time. i want to play for you and viewers a part of that video you did back in 2018. watch. >> she is strongly supported of veterans in education and training, in jobs and economic opportunity, and in health and wellness. my name is david cruiseer and i'm a proud member of team sinema. >> what caused you to change your mind and what was the final straw for you? >> ayman, thank you so much for this opportunity. this is hugely important to our
community, veterans community, and american citizens across the country. and i just want to thank you for that and all the members of the family of msnbc. they're a hugely important voice. what changed? in a word, everything. it was -- and as you mentioned, i as well as some others had worked with her at the state legislature, and she was very supportive. we were advocating at the time for in-state tuition for veterans. she helped push that through and made it law. right across the street is one of the largest institutions of higher learning, arizona state university. because of that law, one of the reasons for that law, one of the reasons is that, one of the impacts is we went from over 100
veterans to over 10,000 going to asu right now today. what i marine by being supportive of veterans in education and training. so we knew her from there. we worked hard for her. a lot of people worked hard for her to get through the senate race, and to become victorious in it. it took three weeks to count the votes. that's how close it was, and all her supporters got a call at 8:00 at night and we all ran down and they made the official announcement that she had won. that was then. this is now. many of us went on to that advisory council with high hopes and high expectations. it was heartbreaking to me personally to see her drift in the direction that was absolutely contrary to everything that we had talked about, not the at least of which are voting rights.
you know? i fought three wars across four tours and five countries for this idea of democracy. i turned 21 years old on the ho chi minh trail and ineligible to vote an wasn't able to vote for a president until three years after i got back from vietnam. more recently, i -- i had a contract in iraq and helped take an iraqi citizen, iraqi citizens to voting polls. we knew we were viting ieds and small arms which we did and we got those people to the voting polls. that's how important this was. >> what's your understanding of why she has changed her position? do you consider her having changed her positions? you say she's kind of gone astray, but, you know, do you as a member of this advisory council, were you interacting with her, was she answering your questions? she's certainly not speaking to members of ed moo the media and
constituents. have you had butter luck than we have. >> the answer, again in a word is, no. that was one of the things. there were several elements, but that was one of them. the non-communication that we had. and it just didn't look like some of the things we had proposed or indicated that we would like to see, didn't really come to fruition. and so -- now those were aggressive packages. i'll admit, but they were packages that would have a high impact on a lot of people. a lot of veterans. all for the good, i think. so that was another element, the non-communication, with her. in fact, we hadn't talked to her directly in almost two years. >> what happens now? i mean, are you prepared to support chris support kyrsten sinema?
is there a way she can win back your support and get you back on the advisory council or is it too little too late? >> the council, a little bit, to little too late. that's a bridge we've crossed, but we continue to encourage her to step up and get behind the president's agenda. it's a -- he's proposing a government for the 21st century. things that we need. things that working people need. things that veterans need. and at the base of all of that is voting rights. we absolutely -- you know -- the idea of voter suppression and election -- you know -- eliminating, you know, election fairness, know, it's veterans. those are values to us veterans
that are near and dear to our hearts and at base of that and i watched your other two guests talk about the filibuster, and senator king talk about the imbalance of representation. >> yeah. >> and i'm 100% behind all that. i agree 110% to that. so the filibuster needs to go. as a first important step. because without the filibuster going, we get no voting rights and without voter rights we don't have a democracy. those are the connecting dots that i look at, and that i see, and those are important to me, obviously, as an american, again, more so even maybe as veteran and so those are the dots, and i want to make sure that, you know, senator sinema has a path back, and so a we're focused on issues. we're focused on, you know, the legislation.
>> i couldn't agree more on the point you can saying in terms of our throat our democracy and why it's so important. thank you for joining us. i greatly appreciate your insights on this. coming up, former president barack obama in virginia today firing up the crowd for the state's governor's race and why he calls the election a turning point. you're going to hear him for yourself next. plus, president biden also making another attempt at climate legislation ahead of next week's u.n. climate summit. we're going to break down his latest plan for you. that's next. (sfx: continued vehicle calamity.) just think, he'll be driving for real soon. every new chevy equinox comes standard with chevy safety assist, including automatic emergency braking. find new peace of mind. find new roads. chevrolet.
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add that to the fact the last time any meaningful climate change legislation tried to pass through the u.s. senate was way back in 2009. when congressional democrats failed to pass a carbon pricing system. u.n. secretary-general himself saying this week "it is obvious the u.s. negotiating position will be strengthened if congress passes the climate provisions in their reconciliation bill." in case it wasn't hard enough to get the support of global leaders, gop decided they'll send their own delegation to cop26 because nothing says you've got your act together like, well, sending two separate delegations from separate parties. so what power will the president have to negotiate and is it enough to actually save the planet? who better to answer these questions than coral davenport, energy and environment policy correspondent for the "new york times." she knows every aspect of our climate policy, and has been covering this from the outset. great to have you with us. thank you for your time this evening. i know that for us who follow
what is happening in d.c., we don't even know what's in this new bill and what is reportedly being removed from it, what is being put in it. what do we know at this time about what is actually in the bill specifically for climate change? >> so there was one big climate provision that the president had really hoped to bring to this conference in glasgow. called clean electricity program. if they had been in the bill and had passed into law, the program would have paid electric utilities. second largest source of pollution in the u.s., paid them to rapidly shut down cool and gas-powered plants and replace with wind, solar, nuclear, clean energy and force those that didn't do that to pay a penalty. multiple analysis found had that
piece be introduced into law it would have been by far the most mow powerful climate law ever enacted in the u.s. and given the president something extremely powerful and strong and permanent to point to when he goes to glasgow to say, look, we just passed a law that will rapidly cut u.s. emissions and put us on track to cut u.s. emissions in half by 2030. so that piece of the legislation at this point is almost certainly out. >> do we know why? yeah. sorry. go ahead. i just jumped in, but were you about to say. go ahead. >> and the reason is due to something you've heard many times on this show before. objections from senator joe manchin of west virginia. he is from, of course a major coal-producing state. he himself has investments in
coal brokages, profits from coal companies and will not support the overall legislation with that provision. as of right now the president basically conceded publicly that it's almost impossible to pass the broader, this giant bill, which contains his entire domestic agenda if it doesn't have that piece. looks like it's not going to happen. >> unbelievable the way you laid it out blocked by senator joe manchin, and i wanted to ask you specifically about something the president what he had to say about these negotiations on thursday. take a listen. >> to clean electricity performance program has been dropped now from this spending bill. >> no it hasn't. >> it has not? senator manchin is opposed? >> the concession not agreed to by senator manchin. >> nothing formally agreed to. >> we know production of coal is at a 50-year high. he's hedging there. joe manchin is getting to call
the shots. president biden set a goal by 2030. net zero by 2050. is that possible with coal production as it stands in this country, and if not what can we do about it? can we see action from the epa. the environmental protection agency, or an executive order? >> oh, absolutely. so recent analyses that came out in the last week found even without that clean electricity provision that powerhouse central provision it remains technically mathematically possible for the united states to reach president biden's target of cutting u.s. emissions 50% by end of the decade, which is a huge initiative and what science said we need to do. how can that be done? well, there's one other provision that remains in the build back better act. so far joe manchin is okay with it. it's $300 billion in tax credits
for clean energy. and for purchasers of electric vehicles. what the analysis has found that is, if those tax credits stay, and looks like they will, that can get the u.s. about third to a half of president biden's goals. it can cut u.s. emissions a third to a half by as much as they need to be cut by end 69 decade. that's a good, big bite. if the bill gets passed into law, president biden can go to the rest of the world and say, look. the u.s., we passed a law that gets us one-third to one-half where i said we're going to be, where do you get the rest? >> hmm. >> a lot of the rest comes from -- what is in the works right now. they don't exist. they're not written but president biden wants the epa to do very, very aggressive regulations on pollution from automobiles and pollution from coal fired power plants. major, big, tough regulations.
the auto pollution regulation is trying to aggressively basically end production of the internal combustion engine, and use electric vehicles by end of the decade. the question, can they right a regulation that will do that and will it stand up in court? it's possible -- >> yeah. sorry, go ahead. >> and the regulations -- >> i was going to say. i appreciate you breaking this down for us. when we think about climate change people think, oh, it's something to do with the future. we think about it in dense terms, but you helped us wrap our heads around how urgent it is and more importantly what's at stake and why nothing is actually being done about it right now. we'll have to see how this plays out with the build back better bill and dp it does in fact get passed with that provision. hopefully you'll come back and join us for more. thank you so much. coming up, biden continues to make big concessions on his build back better bill, but what's still on the table, and
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yup! i'm hiding from my kids, as we speak. in tonight's edition of "that's what they said" former president obama is back hitting the trail saturday stumping for gubernatorial candidate terry mcauliffe. this star power could be the key to victory who's stuck in a deadlock race ahead of the november 2nd election. watch. >> what are you willing to stand up for? when are you willing to say no to your own supporters? when are you willing to say there's some things that are more important than get eeg lected and maybe american democracy is one of those things. [ cheers and applause ] virginia, we got too much to get done. to be dealing with -- the
okey-doke. here we are trying to recover from a global pandemic that has killed more than 700,000 americans. that shut down thousands of small businesses and put millions out of work. we don't have time to be wasting on these phony trumped up culture wars. this fake outrage. the right wing media peddled to juice ratings and the fact he's willing to go along with it instead of talking about serious problems that actually affect serious people, that's a shame. that's not what this election is about. that's not what you need, virginia. instead of forcing our communities to cut back at a time when we're just starting to recover we should be doing more to support people who are educating our kids and keeping our neighborhoods safe! [ cheers and applause ] instead of spreading
misinformation and disinformation about the last election, we should be trying to strengthen our democracy and make it easier for more people to vote in future elections! instead of -- [ cheers and applause ] -- instead of stoking anger aimed at school boards and administrators who are just trying to keep our kids safe. who are just doing their job. so angered to the point some are actually getting death threats. we should be making it easier for teachers and schools to give our kids the world-class education they deserve, and to do so safely while they're in the classroom. [ applause ] so we're at a turning point right now. both here in america and around the world.
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