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word." "the 11th hour" with brian williams begins now. ♪♪ good evening as we bring another week to a close. day 276 of the biden administration. tonight the january 6th committee appears to have scored a win in its fight against donald trump's claim of executive privilege. that is to say a federal judge has signed off on an expedited hearing for november 4th, about two weeks from now. trump had sued the committee, you will recall, claiming materials it was seeking are covered by executive privilege and, therefore, confidential. there is also news tonight about former trump justice department official jeffrey clark, cited in a senate judiciary panel report as a key player in trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election. the report said he was in direct contact with the former president and willingly pushed other justice officials to act
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on trump's false claims of election fraud. cnn reporting tonight clark will now testify before the january 6th panel next friday, a week from today. he'll likely be the first trump white house official to actually comply with a subpoena. one committee member says the panel's eager to hear what led up to the insurrection at the capitol. >> certainly has information about what was planned and what the intent was. >> meantime, the justice department is now weighing whether to charge the insurrectionist steve bannon with contempt of congress. that zilgs expected to take at least a week, possibly longer. so far, bannon remains the only witness to defy a committee subpoena. >> the vast majority of people we called up for interviews or we subpoenaed have either come to testify in an interview are or engaged in good faith
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negotiations with the committee. we are trying to get the information we have been commanded to do by statute about the worst attack on the u.s. capitol since the war of 1812. people who are ready to come to washington to do violence to the capitol -- >> this was also the day an associate of another promoter of the big lie was found guilty in federal court of violating campaign finance laws. lev parnas, you remember him, ally of former trump lawyer rudy giuliani was convicted of illegally funneling foreign money to republican candidates in the 2018 midterms to advance his business interests. parnas now faces up to 45 years in the slammer. he worked with giuliani in a search for dirt on the bidens in ukraine during the 2020 presidential election. also tonight, the legal battle over reproductive rights has escalated. today the supreme court again refused to block it to, block a
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texas law that amounts to a near total ban on abortion. they agreed to fast track its review of the law, scheduling arguments for november 1st, ten days from now. but importantly, this means the texas law remains in effect over the months it will likely take the supreme court to rule on it. the decision came in an unsigned order and only justice sotomayor filed a dissent writing, quote, women seeking abortion care in texas are entitled to relief from this court now. because of the court's failure to act today, that relief, if it comes, will be too late for many. over at the white house, president biden strategizing with schumer and pelosi on his sweeping domestic spending bill after the meeting the speaker hinted they were closer to a deal. >> it's going to be bigger than anything we've ever done for the american people. for moms and dads, who have
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family responsibilities, to children who take care of their senior parents, the women in the workplace. it's remarkable. for the children and for jobs, it's remarkable. >> house democrats are now aiming for a vote on both the spending plan and that infrastructure bill next week. stay tuned. there is also signs tonight that covid vaccines could soon be authorized for younger children. the fda today released data from pfizer showing its vaccine over 90% effective in children 5 to 11 years of age. late tonight, in fact, just before we came on the air, fda regulators said the benefits of the vaccine outweigh any risks of side effects in that age group. fda advisory panel, these things are all done a certain way, meets tuesday to consider whether approving the vaccine for kids. then it's on to the cdc. we're also following developments in the incredible story of the fatal shooting
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involving alec baldwin. officials say he fired a weapon on the set of an independent film he is shooting in new mexico killing the film's cinematographer, injuring the director. the gun had apparently been handed to him containing a live round and not a blank. we'll have more on this later on in this hour. with that, we bring in our starting line on this friday night. eugene daniels, white house correspondent for politico, co-author of each day's addition of playbook, susan paige, veteran journalist and author, long-time washington bureau chief at "usa today" and cynthia ox any, former prosecutor in the civil rights division of the justice department. good evening and welcome you to all. counselor, i'd like to begin with you because the law is at the crux of so much of the news we cover today. the federal bench known for moving with the speed of molasses has fast tracked this
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executive privilege claim which is really fast for them. what do you make of that decision? >> well, i think it's great news. we need to have a ruling on this. i expect that we will have one relatively quickly. i expect that the court will find that the documents can be turned over to the committee. after all, this executive privilege under the presidential records act, the decision lies with biden and biden said it should be turned over. it's not whether or not it protects trump. it's whether or not it's in the best interest of the country. and biden has correctly spelled out in his letter to the court and his -- and in the playedings that it's in the best interest of the country we find out what happened leading up to january 6th and what was the president's involvement in it. i would expect a ruling supporting getting the documents to the committee as soon as possible. >> susan, let's talk about this 1/6 committee. the committee has been out there
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and aggressive, down to almost each individual member making public comments early and often on cable news. is this, in your view, a reaction to the worry on the base that this thing is going to get tied up for months, the fact that the democrats have been straight up played by the republicans for years now and charlie brown repeatedly in terms of two impeachments and all of the trump justices who strolled on to the supreme court? >> we really see this january 6th committee trying to learn the lessons of the four years of the trump administration when investigations were simply delayed until it was basically impossible to bring them to some kind of satisfactory conclusion. they have moved very quickly. you saw that quick vote on holding steve bannon in contempt. that sent a message to the other people that they have subpoenaed the idea that mr. clark is going to testify. that is interesting and a way to
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get into the trump side of things when it comes to january 6th. so i think that it is encouraging to those who want to learn more about what actually happened in the days leading up to january 6th, during the insurrection itself. clearly, this committee is concerned about not falling into some of the traps that democratic oversight has fallen into previously with the trump administration. >> eugene, president biden kind of stuck his neck out in voicing approval of going after biden aggressively. they later walked back those remarks. it does indicate the sensitivity now. this is not trump and his justice department. it's joe biden and an actual justice department. so this does put the investigation though on biden's plate. >> they had gone to pains to make sure that they had given enough room, more room than we'd
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seen in years against the -- from the biden administration, the white house, and the doj. and biden sometimes being biden, you ask questions. even if they told him not to answer it, he answers it. they walked that back. i think they want to continue trying to put up a wall between the doj and the white house, and that's what they are focusing in on now. let's be real. these are people who want to see this thing happen. folks are working the white house, they are hoping that the january 6th commission, first of all, finds out information, right. they are probing that investigation. they also want to see it move quickly. they want to see them assert their power against folks who say they don't want to come. that's kind of a no-brainer at this point, knowing those are the things they want to see done. whether or not they can say that, we have, obviously, seen them now go back to where they were, making sure they don't make comment on that.
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but this is about, for them, not just, you know, we were a part of this 2020 election, we were a part of, you know, being accused of the big lie, stealing the ex-will, which, obviously, did not happen, but more importantly, they see it as protecting democracy moving forward, finding out what happened and then if there is some kind of ramifications that have to happen, hoping that happens as well. >> cynthia, back to you and the federal bench. now, when the supreme court says they are going to fast track something, that's more like the amtrak regional. that's a euphemism for fast-tracking and they have the choice today to stay that texas law to take it off the books, to free up abortion access while they considered it. tonight on social media sheryl begging people to read the sotomayor dissent. she is sticking up for what
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everyone assumed to be settled law. do they send a signal in agreeing to consider it and a decision could take months, though the law remains in effect all that while. >> sotomayor very effectively ar -- articulates, they don't stop this unconstitutional law going forward. >> women are harmed by that. this is not just a legal discussion. this is central to many women's lives and whether or not they are going to be able to control their own bodies. she was very effective about it. there is a lot of tea leaves about the way this was written. here's what's important for the viewers to realize. the supreme court is going to take this case up on november 1st. the sba case, the texas law. they are not going to decide though the meat of it, which is whether or not sba is unconstitutional. they are not taking up that. they are looking at whether or not the lawsuit can go forward
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and whether or not a state can actually use this little tricky way to get around enforcement of the law. but the meat of the case, the real seriousness about the right of a woman to control her own body is really going to come in the dodds case in december, and that's what people need to know. >> susan, what an eventful week in washington. we throw out on the pile of other eventful weeks in washington. does the biden white house, in your view, and based on your reporting and your knowledge of washington, have reason to be more optimistic as this week comes to an end about maybe the next week or two ahead? >> yes, absolutely. there has been a lot of discouraging feeling at the white house and among democrats about whether they were going to get this biden domestic agenda through congress. democrats fighting with democrats, no margin for error.
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biden's approval rating sinking into the high 30s in some solid national public opinion polls. that was very troubling news. but as we finish this week, they are on their way to a deal on this big social spending bill, the reconciliation bill we talked about so much. not as much as liberals, progressives hoped, 1.5 and $2 trillion, but down to the brass tacks of talking about the specific content of a bill that would cost about that much. so, i think, yes, i think it is -- you don't want to bet against an action with congress. but democrats are extremely encouraged at the end of this week that they are going to pass this bill next week, the infrastructure bill, have at least a framework for the reconciliation bill that they can deliver, and it is true what president biden said yesterday. he said this is a very big deal if they do this -- these pair of
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bills. this is a huge amount of money. it includes new programs on things like climate change and childcare. he said it was bigger than the affordable housing and i think that may be true. >> eugene, that's where i want to pick up with you. judging from your reporting and the mood of people you're talking to inside the biden white house, are there real hopes that a bill, any bill, will be passed before joe biden leaves for europe? >> i think they are. like susan said, they are hopeful. as we've seen over and over and over again, they have the rug pulled out from under them by joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. and so they are cautiously optimistic, right. i think they are pretty sure they are going to get a framework on this reconciliation bill. if they get that, it's possible that progressives will go ahead and say, you know, we feel confident that we agree on this framework. we have the agreement of the very important moderate
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conservative democrats in the senate. we're willing to go ahead on vote on this infrastructure bill, this bipartisan infrastructure bill in the house. and that's what folks want. and president biden especially as he goes overseas, as they start having talks about climate change worldwide, he has to show that in this country we take it just as seriously as he says. being able to say we have a framework with however many billions of dollars fighting climate change in this reconciliation bill, taking that to other leaders and saying, now you put up whatever you guys have, that gives him a stronger case. i think the white house knows that and congress is helping work towards as well. >> cynthia, before we scoot to a break, a closing question to you. while people in polite society may deny it wherever people gather over this weekend, this subject is likely to come up and it's a tragedy. someone hands and actor a loaded
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gun on a movie set. the actor believes the gun contains a blank round. a woman is dead. a man is injured. where do begin assessing where the legal culpability might be in this case? >> well, it sound like a civil case to me, number one. and number two, the local authorities are, obviously -- they have already issued search warrants and finding out who loaded that gun and whether the unrest on the set had anything to do with what was put in that gun. and at some point there will probably be a civil negligence case. it's such a tragedy. i would hope that we never find out that there is a criminal case, that nobody ever did this on purpose. i'm confident that mr. baldwin did not. he apparently was told it was unloaded. my guess is this is going the civil route. >> we'll end on that note.
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eugene, susan, cynthia, our starting line for this friday night. have a good weekend. thank you all so much for helping us to start our conversation off. coming up for us, he is sounding a dire warning about what he says is a deceptive new trump venture under the banner of truth. steve schmidt stand big to talk to us tonight. later more on the movie set tragedy in new mexico, including new details on the lethal weapon fired by a 63-year-old movie star named alec baldwin. "the 11th hour" is just getting underway on this friday evening in view of the washington monument. monument ♪darling, i, i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪girl, i don't know, i don't know,♪ ♪i don't know why i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪oh no, babe girl, if i could only make you see♪ ♪and make you understand♪
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side, the post-trump democrats are very different from the pre-trump democrats. it comes close to fascism as we want to come in america. we are not putting up with the nonsense anymore. >> a warning from january 6th committee member, the democratic congressman from maryland, jamie raskin. but the nonsense he refers to seems far from over. the twice impeached retired former president attempting to amplify his reach with a new social media platform called truth social. as former gop strategist steve schmidt aptly put it, quote, trump's truth is a hideous deception, a mirage cloaked in cynicism and malice. indeed, back with us tonight is steve schmidt, strategist who led john mccain's 2008 campaign. since left the republican party.
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among the founders of the lincoln project which set out to defeat trump and trumpism, a job that goes on to this day. great to have you with us. i would like to ask you a dual question, both of which i have asked several guests this week. if democracy has a clock face, if it ends at midnight, what time is it now? the second part of the question is, are the democrats in your candid opinion up to this? >> well, let me answer the second part of that first, brian. it's good to see you. objectively, since the insurrection on january 6th, the republican party is far more radical, far more committed to the lie that trump has told, fully committed to the authoritarian movement.
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and should the events repet themselves, the republican party is much -- in a much different place this past election with regard to being prepared to try to subvert the legal and lawful results. the democrats have done nothing since coming into office, not on the question of voting rights, not on the question of ethics reform. they have done nothing to prevent any of the abuses that we've seen, done nothing to harden any of the infrastructure. so with the democrats, what they are going to have to do in the next year is to lay out the case about a danger, and it's important to remember there has only been three elections in the last 120 years where the incumbent president's party has picked up seats in the first part of the election. clock, brian, there is a moment on the second day at gettysburg where that clock moves within 15
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seconds of midnight, within a few minutes of the republic being extinguished. we are in trouble. we have a real-live autocratic movement alive and well in the united states. we have a political party that seems committed to the project of taking power regardless of what the results are. this all rests on faith and belief, and that's what's been poisoned over the last year. so we're in trouble. but in the end what has always been the case is democracy's rally late in defense faced with these types of movements. but it's a serious moment. >> why, in your view, having heard your answer out just there, has there been such an appalling lack of consequences, and is it the cost of good intentions? as i always say, is it because
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democrats culturally tend to be former student council presidents who just happen to be involved in a gun fight with killers every day? >> we've had some hard-core democratic leaders in this country's history who haven't lacked for toughness in the moment. in the aftermath of the second world war when he was writing his memoirs, churchill described it as the unnecessary war. and when he talked about the rise of fascism in retrospect, he said the malice of the wicked was aided by the weakness of the virtuous. none of this is unpredictable. we have hundreds of pieces of maliced legislation intended to deny people on the basis of skin color the right to vote. we have hundreds of pieces of legislation that have been filed
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aimed to nullify the results of a legal election to declare the loser the winner, and other extreme politics and policies as we've seen this abandonment of a commitment, the small ""l" liberal policies to the american republic to the idea of democracy. it's important to understand democracy is the only moral form of government that's ever been because it's the only system of government that's ever been that places the individual, the human being, on top of the power of the state. all others place the state on top of the human being, and that usually ends with disaster. >> steve, what are we doing wrong that we could be doing better? have noticed in the news media business this false equivalence reporting is sneaking back in
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like nothing ever happened, like we woke up in 1978, all the old rules and all the old politicians were back in action. what can the media do to better enforce the idea, this was an attempt to change the outcome of a presidential election and, as one of your colleagues put it tonight, only one political party now remains in service to that democracy you just spoke of. >> well, i think it's incumbent on the political leadership of the country to be able to speak out in favor of these values. the reality is these ideas have sustained the country through all matter of crisis for more than 245 years, and they are being challenged. they are being contested. they need to be defended. the assertion of the values that built the country and calling out the dividers.
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it's an important moment. we have a real-life extremist moment in this country, a real-life movement in this country. it has to be confronted. it has to be confronted directly and honestly and context cooley, understanding that this isn't the first time we have seen movements like this arise. we have seen this before. and the fact of the matter is, turns out there were hot embers under these ash heaps that we thought were extinguished. so this moment requires, as have previous moments, political leaders who can talk about, one, what we have in common, but the profound importance in defense of the governmental systems that protect human dignity, human life, the pursuit of happiness. that's what's at stake. >> democrats indeed may need to
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. my greatest regret, i had three majors pieces of legislation that are going to change the circumstances for working class folks and african americans as well that i've been busting my neck trying to pass. what is done has prevented me getting deeply up to my ears which i'm going to do in dealing with police brutality, dealing with the whole notion of what are we going to do with voting rights? it's the greatest assault on voting rights in the history of the united states, for real, since the civil war. >> strong words there from the president during that town hall meeting last night on the need for voting rights legislation and then some. but this week's failed senate vote is just more proof there is no path forward for democrats as long as the filibuster remains and, candidly, as long as manchin and sinema remain in
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their ranks. back with us tonight author-activist median former producer for the daily show, host of the podcast how to citizen, he'll also be hosting the pbs series america outdoors. even though to be honest we have only seen the guy inside. and susan, msnbc political analyst and a veteran political strategist. welcome, gang. happy to have you. it's been too long since we've spoken with you. i would like to start with this. did president biden stack his priorities wrong? devil's advocate here. it was at the height of an uncontrolled pandemic and all the resulting economic damage. but as so many democrats have pointed out, voting rights are ball game. voting rights are about the casting of votes and the counting of votes where so many states have been quietly busy
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making sure perhaps the fix may be in for next time. >> brian, it's so good to be back. susan, nice to meet you this way. i love that you use charlie brown as a verb earlier in the show. i can't get over that. and i do go outside. it's where i get the clothes. thank you for the question. thanks for bringing me here tonight. i sympathize a lot with what president biden is dealing with. we have all been dealing with a lot. delta kicked our butt, supply chains are twisted in knots. we are burned and flooded and rained on. it's been hard. and he is trying to push through this agenda and there has been some in-fighting and i expect that, but there is this faction of people. steve schmidt talked about this. i think of the folks who lied about covid. they lied about the election. they blocked the investigation into an insurrection and they are blocking this freedom to vote act. it's got the word freedom in it. the one thing that unites us
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all. we should focus on the freedom part and remind ourselves of what we're here to do in terms of self-governing. i think these people are desperate and they win only by cheating. they gerrymander and they cheat before the election. they stack the deck with people who won't count every vote and commit election sabotage and they try to cheat after the election. so i was glad to see last night that president biden is aware of and has a handle on how dire the situation is. i am hoping that these principal politicians can push this through. adjust the filibuster because without voting rights, without true legitamacy to the government, we can't do all the other cool stuff that a majority of people want to do. 70% of people want to do this stuff and we are being held hostage by 40 senators who represent 21% of the country. that's not a functional democracy. >> susan, and then there is the
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state of texas. not content merely to restrict the right to vote. they restricted the right to an abortion. i want to play foursome of what texas state representative jasmine crockett said earlier with nicolle wallace. >> it's sad that literally i have to laugh to keep from crying, right? and so what i am looking forward to is for aggression out of our u.s. senate. we have got to expand the court and get rid of the filibuster. these are the only ways that we are going to start to have some semblance of normalcy in this country. the fact that the supreme court is acting like this is an issue we need to vacillate over, that they are acting like roe v. wade didn't take place before i was ever, like, born, that is a problem. >> so, susan, here's the question. provided votes will be cast and counted in 2022, can the democrats get out of their own way and actually run
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successfully in congressional elections on the right to choice? >> well, a lot will depend what the supreme court does say and how they rule on this case as well as the other case that's coming up in alabama, i believe. it is going to be central, but democrats have never gotten their act together as far as using the courts as a way of voter turnout. this should certainly do it. if the courts rule against roe v. wade, it should make the women's march that we have seen look like a picnic and like a small turnout. there should be millions upon millions of women and men calling out that the courts and saying we need to have representation and follow the rule of law. every one of the nominees that got confirmed under trump said, yes, president is important and that is what roe v. wade is and i wouldn't want to overturn it,
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without saying the overturn part. and here they are, and they are literally causing so much pain and problems for women today by not putting a stay on that. and these women are kwon frontled with real life problems that are going to affect them the rest of theirs lives. ten days is not soon enough. we know they are not going to give a decision after they hear the discussion. so, hopefully, the democrats will use this, among other thins, including voting rights, as saying we must fight for the rule of law. that's it. full stop. go to the streets, get people registered to vote because turnout will be the thing that causes the democrats to lose the house and the senate. >> well, it's that callousness you just talked about that is at the heart of the sotomayor dissent. the lone voice of dissent on this court for now. our guests have agreed to stay here with us this friday night.
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as we if fit in a break. coming up, what the only twice impeached retiree in all of florida has been telling people about trying to get his old job back. old job back
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alka seltzer plus cold relief. dissolves quickly. instantly ready to start working. so you can bounce back fast with alka-seltzer plus. on the likelihood of a trump 2024 presidential run, axios reporting the former president is telling almost anyone who will listen he will run again in 2024. quote, almost every top republican we talk to said it would take a severe illness, death or criminal charges sticking to stop trump from walking away with the race before it even begins. remaining with us are our friends. susan, so let's play this out. if you're abbott, if you're desantis, if you're mike pence, do you just say, thank you, sir, can i have another? fade away and it's like you
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never existed? >> almost. at least for the next 18 months or so because you are not going to have a choice. donald trump will continue to dominate the republican party field in the polls. he will continue to cause trouble wherever he can. he loves raising money. and he will also use, i think, the fact that he will run for office as a potential tool to help him legally, meaning, brian, that some elected officials have actually agreed not to run using that as a chit within the legal system as to help deflect the amount of potential crimes he is charged with. >> i want to talk about the virginia governors race as a springboard into a related conversation. here's the quote from politico. glenn youngkin is betting on parents' anger with local school boards to edge out a victory in
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the governors race against terry mcauliffe. if it works, it could be a playbook for republicans to seize on frustrations over covid school closures paired with culture war fights over how race is taught in schools and the rights of transgender children to recapture suburban voters, rocketing fights over education to the top of campaigns across the country. there is a larger issue here. i have always believed we should be more critical of ourselves. the press corps, people we read and the people we see all day long on cable news tend to live in blue dots. no fault of their own. it's where their employers are located. it helps explain why the press corps largely was shocked at the rise of the tea party, shocked at the election of donald trump. out beyond the last exit for a whole foods, people have been listening to steve bannon and trumpers have been running for
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town and city council and boards of ed and this is happening in town after town across what is still a very red country. >> i will just acknowledge your analysis there, brian. there wasn't a question. but i will share some thoughts. i think that a lot of people are afraid. i think people have been sold a path to power through grievance. i think folks are feeling a little lonely and a lot scared when power shifts. and make no mistake. mauer is shifting. virginia was the capital of the confederacy and now they are taking down confederate flags. it's becoming younger, brown,er and all kinds of colors that aren't white and that makes certain people feel afraid. what i want to see from the media is not to pretend that things are like they were in the before times and also i want us to talk about some of these challenges, especially in schools, through a different
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lens. i hear parents afraid of critical race theory and a see a liberal or a democrat arguing on those terms. critical race theory good. i think about it as being willing to teach american history. are we willing to teach american history? do we trust our children and students enough to handle the truth? can they handle it? do they love? do we love the country enough to see its less than attractive parts and paint a complete picture of who we are. with when we truly know somebody, that's real love. i think whether in the media or the campaign trail, stop engaging on terms of defeatism and defensiveness and assert love in a positive way. whether it's mccall i have or operative in another state, we have a lot to gain from reminding people what they have to gain and not just what they have to lose.
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we have to gain wholeness and strength. that's different than talking about quote/unquote culture wars. >> we are stronger for knowing the both of you. before we say good-bye, another project you're involved in of late. he is a founding partner in puck, a new media company where he is writing a series on race in america called "after the tide." with that, our formal thanks to our friends. have a good weekend. coming up for us, the stunning news. the story that broke last night at about this time. one dead, one wounded after a gun was fired by alec baldwin on the set of a movie apparently containing a live round and not a blank. le ivround and not a blank.
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about that fatal shooting on the set of alec baldwin's new film called "rust." the ap reports court records indicate baldwin was, quote, handed a loaded weapon by an assistant director who indicated it was safe to use. the assistant director did not know the prop gun was loaded with live rounds. and "the l.a. times" says a crew member recently texted the unit production manager warning, quote, we've now had three accidental discharges. this is super unsafe. we get our report tonight from nbc news correspondent miguel almaguer. >> reporter: after the fatal shooting, a distressed alec baldwin outside the sheriffs department in santa fe. investigators say the veteran actor fired a prop gun on his new mexico movie set thursday killing the fim's director of photography and seriously injuring the director. >> was it loaded with a real bullet? >> i cannot tell you that. we have two injuries.
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>> reporter: but just hours before the deadly shooting on the set of "rust," an independent movie in which baldwin is also one of the producers, nbc news has learned several crew members walked off the set over safety concerns, including multiple previous misfires of the prop gun according to a source familiar with the matter. baldwin, who is 63, expressing remorse. there are no words to convey my shock and sadness regarding the tragic accident that took the life of halyna hutchins, a wife, mother and deeply admired colleague of ours. i'm fully cooperating with the police investigation to address how this tragedy occurred. >> one of the things about firearms on the set that people don't realize is that even if it's set up to fire blanks, federally it's still a real gun. >> reporter: larry zanov, a hollywood weapons expert, says when strict guidance are
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followed, accidents should never happen. the industry's safety bulletin spellsous blanks can kill. treat all firearms as though they are loaded, live ammunition is never to be used. no one shall be issued a firearm until they are trained >> the way we handle firearms and the blank ammunition on set, that seems very difficult to imagine how a blank would do that. >> reporter: in 1993 after brandon lee, the son of bruce lee, was killed in a filming accident involving a prop gun, industry safety measures tight end. >> to my mind this accident happens because somebody missed some check they should have done. >> reporter: hutchins, who was 42 and posted photos of horseback riding near the set, was quickly becoming a star. "rust" actress francis fisher posting this tribute saying rest in paradise dear helena. tonight a tragic accident and
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now mounting questions as to how something like this could ever happen. the production company says they were never aware of any safety concerns but say they are fully cooperating with investigators. back to you. >> our thanks to miguel almaguer for that report tonight. another break. coming up, a preview of a tough conversation. it's actually been going on for a couple hundred years around here. a couple huneddr years around here [sfx: radio being tuned] welcome to allstate. ♪ [band plays] ♪ a place where everyone lives life well-protected. ♪♪ and even when things go a bit wrong, we've got your back. here, things work the way you wish they would. and better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. ♪ i like it, i love it, i want some more of it♪ ♪i try so hard, i can't rise above it♪
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this day, and the stories we refuse to tell. here's a portion of what to expect. >> no one on the civilian side, on the confederate presidency, was ever forced to concede and repudiate what they believed. and we allowed a group of people that waged in our insurrection against their government to build statues to their heroes. so that has kept it alive. we have never solved the core problem of the civil war. >> we have never really had a racial reckoning. the problem started first immediately after the war. if you want north and south to get together and get along again, you don't talk about causes and consequences. you talk about the mutual valor on that battlefield. >> the documentary is called civil war. it airs sunday night on in
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network, 10:00 p.m. eastern time. that is our broadcast for in friday night and for this week with our thanks for being here with us. have a good weekend, unless you have over plans. on behalf of all our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. happy friday, here's a thing i do not get the say very often. today was a day full of good news. when it comes to whether or not we are going to stay a democracy in our lifetimes. we have been covering this beat pretty relentlessly for the past several years now, as you know. the republican party, over the past several years they have more and more overtly embraced donald trump's denunciation of elections. the promotion of false claims about elections to undermine faith in them. the rejection of clear our election results, the promotion of changes to election

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