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>>. >> why it was so important for you to do this with them? >> what is their life going to be like in the next faze? it also becomes more responsibility for us as parents to say what can we do to allow them to add some value to society nap is very important to us a as parents. >> way to go, they saw more than 10,000 treats. that is going to do it for me this our, andrea mitchell report starts right now. right now we're waeting for president biden and vice president harris speaking at the 10th anniversary of the dedication of the martin luther king junior memorial.
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this is just a few blocks from the white house in washington after republicans once again blocked and brought a compromised voting rights bill to the senate floor for debate. and democrats are in the final stages of negotiations on that scaled back version of the social policy agenda. the white house signaling the plan has been reduced to two trillion dollars. gas emissions are also on the chopping block. today the committee is going to decide if they should prosecute steve bannon for not showing up for his subpoena. merrick gar land at a hearing today is not tipping his hand. >> the house of representatives
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votes for referral of the contempt charge. it is a decision consistent with principals of prosecution. there is booster shots from moderna and j&j recipients. and also backed the option of mixes and matching. we're following all of these stories today, and joining me now is weekend today co-anchor kristin welker and garrett haake. they are raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporation that's would still be below levels before the huge trump,
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corporate, and business tax cuts that are individuals. >> yes, and remember that was one of president biden's key campaign pledges. he may be backing away from that. this comes amid pressure from senator sinema who today saw five of her aids resign. garrett will have more on all of that, but the bottom line is the white house knows they need senator sinema to get this done. they're looking at a different way to tax the wealthy. we're told that the president and his top aids here briefed lawmakers that they were considering dropping an increase to the corporate tax rate. so what would they do? among the options under consideration? a tax on billionaire assets. potentially a new minimum tax on corp
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corporations, and going back to some of the ideas long been on the table like a broader irs enforcement. those are among the ideas being discussed. overnight a white house official saying that this plan will cost zero, andrea, but again a lot of questions remain. how specifically are they going to get to zero. what does that time horizon look like? the white house insisting that he will not raise taxes on those making less than 400,000. that is another key campaign pledge and there is a lot of pressure on him to keep that one, andrea. >> among those cuts are the longer expansions. free tuition nap is a program for particularly dr. joe biden. but explaining they will tackle
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that in another year, but another big issue is senator joe manchin. there was a mother jones article that he vigorously denied that he was thinking of switching a parties, but he clarified that today, let's listen. >> have you ever had a plan to switch parties? >> no, if i'm an embarrassment to my colleagues, my caucus, the president, chuck schumer and all of them. and i said me being a moderate centrist, but i will still be caucusing with democrats. >> we know the huge margins in his home state of west virginia,
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that means he would be independent and it would not change control of the senate. >> that's right. look. david corn's reporting on this was the idea that manchin could leave the democratic party. leaving the party and becoming a republican is two very different things. we saw him vigorously deny the latter. and confirming that it had been discussed, the possibility, that he could become an independent that caucuses with the democrats. that is what angus king does, that's what bernie sanders does, but by staying with the democrats he would keep his chairmanship of his committee and the position as the critical power broker on all of these issues that he enjoys being in right now. this makes more sense than the
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way the story took off and was running. joe manchin is the most powerful or second most powerful man in washington and that is still mostly the case as long as he keeps caucusing with the democrats or keeps that d behind his name. >> and he never misled people on that. that is exactly right. garrett haake and kristin welker. we're talking about today or tomorrow. thanks so much to you. let's bring in our panel, eugene scott, and peter baker, chief white house correspondent. claire, how is this going? are you glad you're not a senate these days? republican the democratic caucus
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and the 50/50 senate? >> i miss my friends, but i do not miss what the senate has become. what we're seeing right now is how difficult it really is and these incredibly partisan times which as you know the senate has not been a hyperpartisan body. that has been changed. mitch mcconnell and his obstructionism. but i'll tell you what, i think they're going to land the plane. we have always had different opinions in our party. you goat majorities by having different opinions. you can elect people from place that's are not just bright blue. i think a lot of this is unfair to kirstin sinema. she is not talking what she is for and against in public. so everyone is trying to fill in
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the blinks. i think she's in favor of a bill that will be paid for but it will do major important things for the american people. >> i agree i think they will land the plane, but i think it will be lop sided, and it will be wobbling on the run way. that deadline is not artificial. and importantly to the climate summit, he wants something to take with him. >> he has, and so do lawmakers. they want to land this plane because they want to plan to american people that they're moving forward with some type of package. this is the biggest domestic package so far that biden is
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putting together that can really shape his agenda to give americans a sense of what it is that his presidency will be about moving forward especially as democrats head into the midterms. as you imagine they have not been enjoying this press they have been receiving as critical as it has been, and in many ways not accurately presenting their positions and views on the policies related to these views and they want to go on the record saying this is what we were able to get behind, this is what we pushed back on, and this is why. >> let's talk about the president in the polls. there is a poll that has them down, as you tweeted he is in trump territory. that is concerning, especially heading into the all important virginia gubernatorial race.
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so that deadline to get it done is very hard to be doing this and banging heads and worried about your next big meeting. november 2nd is the virginia election day and he wants to get this down so jerry mccallife can have something to campaign on. >> that's right and the poll may be a outliar. but the point is that those numbers have been shrunk since the beginning. and he lost momentum in washington and that's why he wants to get this past and it under cuts the argument that he made last year. that he knew how to make washington work and he would be
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an effective president. he would not be tweeting out hate insults. he could make the gears of government turn and he needs to prove that, and you're right, it is imperative before his trip overseas. it may not mean anything, but psychologically a lot of people attached a great deal of important to that. it is so close. terry mccauliffe, youngkin who is trying to maneuver around the party. >> claire, one of the paid fors that they were pushing is more irs enforcement. that gets back to the old "we're going to cut fraud, waste, and
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abuse. does that pass the smell test? that this is credibly paid for? >> i do think that it is important to know that under the republican majorities and under president trump, there was a systematic dismantling of the irs. if you imagine having a debt and a business and the way you go about addressing that debt is to cut off the accounts receivable department and make sure no one is working there, there are legitimate issues that can be raised about what the irs needs to make sure that people are paying their fair share. most americaning do. the ones that avoid taxes do not and there is a reason that staffing the irs makes sense. will it pay for $2 trillion worth of spending? no. so there has to be some adjustment to the trump ax rates in some regard to get more money
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in the door if they're going to legitimately say they're paying for these programs. >> we're about to hear from the president and the vice president on the voting rights bill that was a compromise with joe manchin. they did not en get a debate on it because it was filibusters by the republicans. so, as angus king said importantly here, if that were the case he would begin to think about the filibuster rule and that is exactly what he then later said last night on rachael maddow. is that going to happen? >> it seems to suggest that the white house has been listening to voters on the left, particularly black voters that said they have been frustrated
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that the biden white house has not been more aggressive and if this is not something that booids tactic and efforts for being more aggressive on. we know it is affecting so many states with large black populations. and we continue to see biden support with black voters, a demographic that was really influential in their success. >> as we speak the president and the vice president looking up at that monumental memorial. i was there for the construction, we were profiling it and it is truly inspiring. we'll be back very shortly as we talk about that. voting rights, legislation, and in a few hours the house is expected to vote on whether or not they will hold steve bannon for contempt of congress.
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welcome back this around. the house will vote on whether or not to recommend that the justice department prosecuted trump ally steve bannon for criminal contempt of congress. attorney general merrick garland testified today and giving to hint as to what he will decide to do. joining us now is joyce vance. if the house refers to bannon has is respected with all republicans going against, is the attorney general going to go ahead and charge him? what do you think the justice department will do? >> it is hard to predict what this justice department right now. what merrick garland has done is
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committed that doj will use the same principals of federal prosecution that they have used to decide in any other situation whether or not there should be an indictment. whether or not that is evidence to obtain and sustain a conviction. if it the prost kus is a matter of national interest, and and i suppose it is possible that he could, the civil remedy is sufficient. in a case like this where there is just a raw effort for the oversight abilities, this would be the case. >>. >> what about the prosecution? is it contempt? >> thee ratically congress can file a lawsuit and we saw them do that with don mcgann and it was 750 days from the time he was subpoenaed to when he
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appeared for closed door testimony. so that civil remedy is not an adequate one here. given the si of the issues around january 6th. that would be a legitimate reason for going ahead with the prosecution. >> what if he goes ahead? >> yeah, and here is the trap, it would go to a grand jury, there would be an indictment as with any other case. there is a speedy trial. the case theoretically should go to trial in 70 days. sometimes there is more delays. even if bannon is convicted that doesn't mean that congress will be able to obtain his testimony. he could go to jail, serve whatever time he is giveen, and that would be between 30 days and one year. all of congress's remedies are
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in a sense imperfect here. >> with lawrence, as he pointed hot that he has so many conversations with steve bannon, he says that bannon loves this. it makes him a martyr, it sighs him to president trump, and he was indicted on depletely unrelated charges. >> i think that he has been willing to face the music. >> i think that explains why doj has been so hesitant. they make a very, very careful decision on the merits of the case. >> thank you so much, joyce
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advance. zlrnlts and the noble struggle for equal rights. republican senators blocked even having debates on the voting rights legislation. blocking it in it's tracks. you're watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. reports only on msnbc. a
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. >> should tens of millions of americans get a booster. but as millions of third doses are set to roll out millions are pushing workers to get their first shots through vaccine mandates. katy park is in new york city home to a new mandate for for employees. a friend of the show, katy, first to you, only 16 president of new york city's work force is unvaccinated but you have real large numbers of unvaccinated
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firefighters and some police as well. so how are they going to close the gap that the unions are protesting. >> as you know vaccine mandates are doing this. they have until october 29, and mayor bill deblasio says they have plenty of time to get vaccinated and he is standing firm on that october 29th deadline. this applies to 160,000. this includes firefighters, ems, and police officers. and it shows you where the vaccination points are, right. it impacts thousands in that category and union leaders are pushing back. and there is resistance already.
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leaders are saying they're prepared to take action to blox this mandate. hear their also offering an incentive. they're eligible for $500 if they got their first dose at a city run vaccination site. the clock is ticking and it should be interesting to see where things shake out this week. >> so you have a real push and pull here, let's talk about this. it is pro ton be effective. the numbers do climb, and america is still far behind europe in other places in herd immunity. so how important is it for the mandates to hold? >> good afternoon. great to see you. i expect that once the occupational safety and health administration released their
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emergency temporary stand, they're saying test your employees weekly or mandate the vaccine, that order is still waiting an issuance. it is still going through rounds of it ration with the white house. once that happens, the devil is in the details, there will be a lot of friction for them not to mandate the vaccine. once children have access less than 12 years of age, you're going to see those rates really deline there. that's really going to get this country up to a very high level of vaccine uptick. >> let's talk also about the boosters. we expect that this will tleed a final vorgs for boosters. is that mostly for johnson and johnson patients? or is there an advantage for
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people with moderna to get their third shot. how should our consumers think about it? >> you know i would say probably the body likes this good type of confusion. in terms of powerful, i mean they really increase their level of antibody protection for covid. if you have one shot of johnson and johnson, getting an mrna is that second shot, really strong levels of protection, very safe. i should also note that this approach has been adopted in varying shades in canada, the middle east, and the uk now in is not unfamiliar terrain. i think they will allow this approach broadly and the cdc will adopt it.
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making and matching causes good confusion to your body's immune system if is very safe. >> just a footnote to that, they should wait for the prescribed booster of a half don't, not getting the half dose. >> if you're immunocompromised, you're still advised to get a third full dose. but for everyone else that is eligible, that half dose is going to be prescribed for you. that is an important distinction, thank you. >> thank you, coming up, inflation nation. we're all paying more for every day essentials. can the $2 trillion spending bill make that trend worse?
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recession is at historically high levels, but the biden administration say it's is all paid for and that will be harder to do. they are raising the tax rate to 21%. joining us now is the white house council chair. is there a way to pay for this $2 trillion? >> i certainly hope so. i would not mind borrowing for some of it. preschool, investments, they pay
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out overtime. the president doesn't want to borrow, he wants to kor all of the costs and there is a lot of things in the tax code, a lot of look holes that has been cut back by senator manchin's opposition. so what tools does it have including for executive actions. it meets the president's targets by meeting emissions he is going into this climate summit. if you don't have a carbon tax, how do you get there. >>. >> the car upon tax is in discussion right now and i'm not sure that day is going to happen in the next month or two.
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the power plant part, i don't have a creative idea, but i'm sure they're scrambling to figure one out. it will help shift to vehicles and other sectors of the economy. the easiest most efficient parts are in the power sector. >> first koring this debate, a member of the house of representatives. we have been talking about a carbon tack that will never go through. they reduce poverty in those families in the first couple
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months when it is in place. is a one-year extension going to do the job. what about try trying to revisit this down the road. >> i would love to see them extended permanently of all of the policies among the most popular would be the hardest to undo. i think we will figure out a way to extend it. there is another piece that is the refundability and making that permanent is important. we can always extend it when we need to. >> you're not an inflation hawk? >> i think i have been out there saying inflation will be higher than people expect it to be and inflation is a problem and the federal reserve is the agency
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charged with dealing with inflation and they should probably be taking some steps to keep it under control. i'm not worried that this legislation is going to add to inflation, it is spread out overtime, mostly paid for, increases the productive economy. >> do you think the federal reserve is linked to the game? is it almost too late to moderate? is it going to be baked into the cake before too long? they keep overoptimistically sending it away. they are going to taper, announce that almost certainly next month, and they will start reducing near asset purchases. the question is how fast do they get to the interest rate increases? it's not too late for them to
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get this better under control, but they are certainly behind the curve. >> thank you, we're going to go to the martin luther king junior memorial. the 10th anniversary, and kamala harris, our first black vice president is speaking. >> love is pervasive around us right now. speaker nancy pelosi thank you for what you're doing. i have known the speaker for a very long time having started my elected career with her. a fighter for working people and a voice for those that must not be seen and heard and among who all include the dignity intended.
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chairwoman joyce bade and my, still, colleagues at the congressional black caucus, thank you for your leadership. and to the king family. it is their commitment to carry on the legacy of the family and to erin here today, thank you there are so many leader who is are here. this monument has in many ways been distinguished. this monument for most of us here is dedicated to a man who lived among us. many of us were alive when doctor king spoke.
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the words echo not only across the city but throughout our country and our world. dr. reverend martin luther king jr. was a prophet. he saw the present exactly as it was being clear eyed and he saw the future. and he pushed our nation toward that future. and it is important to remember dr. king pushed even as on a daily basis his character was being maligned. he pushed as his family on a daily basis was being threatened. he pushed as his very life was
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in jeopardy. and toward what would be the end of that short life. he pushed even harder. drawing a straight line between racial injustice, and economic injustice. demanding more for black people, people of color, for working people. for all people. and it may not sound radical now, but it was radical then. so as we remember his life and celebrate the anniversary of this beautiful memorial let us be guided by those same connections he made as they exist today. racial injustice today is
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inextricably linked to economic injustice. to the impact of the climate crisis. to the impact of covid-19. and to the threats to our democracy. and i believe then knowing and seeing that, that the path forward is clear. we must put people to work in good union jobs. and invest in the care, the child care, the home care, that people need to be able to go to work. we must reform our criminal justice system and our immigration system. we must defend and strengthen the right that unlocks all other rights, the right to vote.
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as we all know 2013, the voting rights act that dr. king and so many others voted for was guided by the supreme court decision. that opened the floodgates for the laws that we see being passed throughout our states today. and to be sure we should not have to keep fighting so hard to secure our fundamental rights. but fight we must. and fight we will. so right now there are two bills in front of the united states congress that would help to restore the votes rights act and strengthen the right to vote for all americans. the freedom to vote act, and the john lewis voting rights
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advancement act. these two bills are among the broadest efforts to protect and strengthen the right to vote since dr. king died. but yesterday, as senate democrats voted to advance the freedom to vote act, senate republicans voted against even debating it. even debating it. as though it is not a debatable point. they refused to even come to the table to talk about it. today i am reminded of the words from many of our young leaders, the words of dr. king's partner in that struggle, coretta scott king. she said "freedom is never really won. you earn it and you win it with
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every generation. with their sweat, with their tears, and with their blood. the leaders of the civil rights movement and the coalition they built won the voting rights act. these voting rights act is for young men and women. after all, we remember dr. king was only 39-years-old when he died and, yet, they knew their power. they knew that there is real power when your cause is just. and they used then that power to push democrats and republicans to pass that landmark bill. so today as a nation, we must strengthen our own ties.
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as leaders, we must leverage our own power. and we all have a role to play. and the president and i are clear on ours. we are and must be unwavering in this fight. and we must use our voice to call out any effort to obstruct justice. and to call for justice everywhere. remember, and dr. king knew this, america is not defined by her perfection. america is defined by our commitment to perfecting and in our nation, that will forever be the work forward. as dr. king did, we must keep believing a better future is
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possible. and as dr. king did, we must keep pushing towards that future. so as i have the great honor of introducing our president. let me in today by recognizing the impact that this memorial has had for ten years, think aboutist. for a decade, visitors from all over the world have come to this very place. the words that are etched in these always now etched in their hearts and on their smartphones. the history that is told here because of this place is now a part of their own and i know that when they leave here, they do so derryl to do their part to
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build a better future. so an behalf of our nation, on behalf of our world, thank you all for making this memorial possible and now it is my great and distinct honor to introduce a phenomenal leader who was here when this memorial was first unveiled. a leader, because i see it every day, draws so much inspiration and reminds so many of the work and word of dr. king, our president of the united states, joe biden. >> thank you. thank you, kamela. thank you all as to very much. mr. president, i already thank
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you for your stew wardship. you know, here in the heart of the capitol of the united states of america the tensions and the heed of the nation are bitterly on display. dr. king stands determined and brave looking out on the promised land, across the tidal basin stands another giant, thomas jefferson whose words declared the very idea of america that we are all created equal, endowd with certain inalienable rights and we all deserve to be treated equally, throughout our lives. to state the obvious, no audience knows it better than this one. we have never lichd up to that idea. but we've never walked away from it fully. you've never pac u walked away. in a sermonsh to the march in
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washington, dr. king called on all of many earthquake to live up to the full median promise of our declaration of independence. and so, i stand here in perpetuity in time, land and inspiration inspires us and challenges us, reminds us how far we've come, where we need to go, how far -- how much longer the journey is. it's a conversation that shapes our days that we must carry forward. madam vice president, madam speaker, chair of the black caucus, congressional black caucus members, and moral foundation,, leaders of faith and community, distinguished guests, from here we see the ongoing push and pull between
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progress and struggle over the self-evident truths of our democracy and in our nation, we now face an inflection point and the soul of america. it's up to us together to choose who we want to be and what we want to be. i know the progress does not come fast enough. it never has. and the process of governing is frustrating and sometimes disspiriting. but i also know what's possible. if we keep the pressure up, if we never give up, if we keep the faith, we're in an inflexion point. i know i have maybe overused that phrase, it is an inflection point in american history, delivering on economic justice. it was the dignity of work that dr. king was in memphis on that fateful day, helping sanitation
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workers, not only no safer pay and greater conditions but to be granted more dignity at human beings. in our time, it's for recognizing that for much too long we've allowed a narrative crammed view of the promise of america. a view that america is a zero sum game, particularly in the recent past. if you succeed, i fail. . if you get ahead, i fall behind. maybe worst of all, if i can hold you down, i lift myself up. instead of where it should be, that's self-evident. if you do well, we all do well. that's keeping the promise of america. i've never seen a time working folks did well that the wealthy didn't do very well. look, it's the core of your administration's economic vision.
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it's a fundamental paradigm shift for this nation. for the first time in a couple generations, we will be investing in working families, putting them first and helping them get ahead rather than the wealthy and the biggest and most powerful people out there. we're investing in black families with rescue checks and tax cuts that reduce black poverty by 34%, black child poverty by more than 50%. this year, we're addressing the leadership of some of the people i am looking at right now, combating housing dim nation and how did every other person make it to the middle class from a working circumstance? just like my dad did, built equithe i in a house, granted it wasn't small, it wasn't much, but it was enough to build a little equity. we'll use the federal government purchasing power, to unlock billions of dollars in new
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opportunities of minority-owned small businesses and access to government contracts. is there any doubt that providing more people with just a little more breathing room to take care of their families, generate a little bit of wealth that they can pass on to their children and create jobs in their communities with uplifting the entire country, all the country, every one. as the economy recovers, we are determined and focused on rebuilding it over the long run. no one should have to hold regret as they cross a run-down bridge to determine whether it's safe enough or dangerous intersection in our hometown, a nation, every child should be able to turn on a faucet and drink water not contaminated by lead or anything else. as a nation, everyone should have access to affordable high speed internet.
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gone are the days when you have to pull up to mcdonald's and sit in the parking lot with your child to do their homework when there is virtual learning going on. dr. king said, of all the forms of inequity, injustice in healthcare is the most shocking and most inhumane. this is a once-in-a century pandemic that's hit this country hard and especially the african-american community. it's like off all lost someone to the virus or know someone who has lost a loved one. one in 600 black americans have died from covid-19. it's been reported that blacks are more than twice as likely as white children to have lost a parent or care giver to covid-19, to have to experience the trauma and loss. many of my colleagues say we have to now work on even more fervently. that is mental healthcare.

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