tv American Voices With Alicia Menendez MSNBC October 17, 2021 4:00pm-5:00pm PDT
thanks for joining us. i'm in tonight for alicia menendez. this hour trump heads to court set to give a deposition this week in legal cases dating back to his prepresidency days. the case he's fighting may reveal the first signs of trumpism. also tonight, big old mess in texas. the gop is changing the rules to stay in power. how long will voters allow them toe do that? new details ahead about the plan to keep immigrants in policy. and we will hear from two organizers who are fighting for rights on snapchat, one senate snap at a time. let's begin withholding donald trump to task for his
lies and violence on january 6th. signs of what eventually would happen can be seen in his first days of his campaign in 2016, when he began the lies about immigrants and lies about the election he now lost. one thing that's for certain, the president better stick to the truth tomorrow when he's under oath giving his post presidency deposition as ordered by a judge in the bronx. it tied to a lawsuit by trump investigators who say trump's bodyguards roughed them up in new york in 2015. here's an attorney representing the protesters earlier this weekend on msnbc. >> we have every reason to believe mr. trump will be there monday morning and submit the video deposition. and per the court order, we expect the deposition be conducted in a professional manner. >> they say they were protesting
trump's campaign announcement about immigrants when he called them rapists and criminals. it's the first lie in a decade of lies. and they carry weight if they're believed and they are by his faithful who remain hell-bent and believing the 20 20 election was stolen from them, which gives to the point the gop all but withered since being voted out of office in 2020. helping us kick off our hour, "the washington post" reporter riley and msnbc legal analyst and former u.s. attorney barbara mccade, who also hosts #sisters-in-law. thank you very much for joining me. i want to start with you, barbara. what should we expect at tomorrow's deposition in new york by the former president? >> what's always difficult about donald trump is you never know what words will come out of his
mouth. he's been through this process many times in his prior life as a businessman, he will be asked questions but he's under oath. i think there's good reason the lawyers in the mueller investigation insisted on written questions and that is he's so unfamiliar with the truth that it's very difficult for him to tell it i think in a consistent manner. i think anything can happen in that deposition. >> could you see at all what could happen if he's subpoenaed by the january 6th commission? >> i think there's a likelihood he could have to testify in person. it seemed like in the past there's always been courtesies extended to presidents and former presidents. when bill clinton got to do his deposition for -- in preparation for grand jury in private in video, not in the open. but i think donald trump has shown such a flagrant abuse of the process that calling him before the committee and forcing him to testify might be the only way that we can get to the bottom of what was on his mind on january 6th.
>> and i want to bring you into the conversation, malcolm. just a few days ago we saw trumpism on full display at the governor's race and, quote, this is basically the governor -- gop governor candidate basically says i want to invite kim from chesapeake. she's carrying a american flag carried at the peaceful rally of donald j. trump on january 6th. i ask you all to rise and join us as we rise and say the pledge of allegiance. can you speak to this absurdity? >> it's truly absurd because what we've seen now is items that were carried in the insurrection, which was used as a debt to topple the u.s. government, they're essentially carrying them as relics to give them a deeper connection to donald trump and, of course, the
fact they tried to overthrow government. and it all slides in the face of their own story line, their story arc in which it was antifa and black lives matter that carried out the attack. now on some signs we see them actually not only recognizing that they've carried out this event but, as i said in the video, a peaceful protest at the capitol and now carrying an american flag, which took part in that. it's absolutely disgraceful that any of this is happening. but what you're seeing is a strategy by the republicans and trump play out where they're now embracing the popularism of that violence. >> i want to turn to you. you wrote an article for the huffington post saying the fbi had an interview where they become radicalized that convinced him that trump won the election. how are trump's own words right now being used to basically
bring people back? are people believing it or are they actually saying wait a second, i had a wake-up call that this was fabricated, there's no big lie, no steal? >> yeah, it's fascinating because t.j. rodriguez in this interview right after he was arrested back in march basically spilled his guts to the fbi explaining exactly how he got to the place he was. the fbi asked, how does this guy who goes through saying he's supporting the police and standing up to antifa go to then tasering a d.c. police officer, who a photo of which you showed on the screen a few minutes ago, and he basically explained he really thought the election was stolen. it makes sense so many people actually thought the election were stolen were proud of their actions that day because that's the logic you would follow. if there's actually a massive criminal conspiracy and this was 1776 2.0, you're going to do something about it. it's not going to be something you were necessarily ashamed of.
but what we see now because trump continues to not stop this rhetoric, it goes on and in many cases judges are weighing that rhetoric in their decisions whether or not to keep people incarcerated pretrial because they're worried about sort of the rhetoric trump is putting out there and continuing to say the election is stolen, continuing to lie about the supposed criminal conspiracy, and it really does have this impact and it's something, you know, i spoke to people immediately after the election who were very worried about the potential impact this would have. now when you have this much of american radicalized, it really is this ongoing threat that i think law enforcement really needs to worry about going forward. >> and one of the things we saw surprising, and things start getting more unveiled, is the goal that people who were in the justice department had, barbara, and i'm speaking specifically of jeffrey clark's role. he basically was willing, it seems like, to throw the election in favor of trump. will he get subpoenaed? if so, what can we expect from his testimony? >> yes, the committee is going
to want to hear from jeffrey clark. what he was plotting with president trump is so outside the lane of what the justice department normally does and is supposed to do. he was threatened to take over as the acting attorney general at one point, and what he wanted to do was send a letter to all of the swing states suggesting to them that they could vacate their elections and have the republican-controlled legislature suggest their electors instead, basically a roadmap for overturning the election. even if this were somewhat legitimate, that is so far outside the lane of what the justice department is supposed to do. so i think not only is the committee going to want to know what was he thinking, what was he up to, but who put him up to it? he had private meetings with donald trump. i think the substance of those meetings is critically important to understanding what happened that day and the role of donald trump in all of these insurrection activities. >> barbara, for the viewers watching, is it unusual for
someone of his rank and file inside the justice department to have that kind of private conversation with the president? >> it is. doj policies make it very clear they want to shelter lower-level employees -- meaning below the level of attorney general and the deputy, those two top positions, from white house communication. and the goal there is to avoid any impropriety of communications about specific cases or even the appearance of impropriety, because they should never be part of some politics controlling a decision of justice department. it should be based on facts and law. so just by having that private meeting with donald trump, jeffrey clark went way afoul of the rules. its not a little thing. it's a big thing in the justice department. everybody knows it. and he knew what he was dg was highly improcedure and that's also what makes it feel so nefarious that he had this meeting. >> so malcolm, you are an expert in russian propaganda and what they do to basically turn people on its head and basically create
walls of where there's truth and where there's not. a lot of what we are seeing here in the commission, a lot of this nefarious activity that seems to be coming from institutions and outside players, not knowing what is the truth and what isn't, what kind of playbook do you feel that trump's people and trump himself may have taken straight out of the kremlin? >> well, it's interesting because the russians developed an information warfare strategy back in the early 2000s that was develops by the chief of staff of the armed forces and it's known as the ger as mow of doctrines, an informing warfare strategy in which they i fill trait and project so much propaganda into a foreign population, that that population, according to the russian's own study, would welcome an invasion without a shot being fired. that didn't really happen. what the russians did in the year 2016 is they created an
information bubble in which the trump campaign was seen as friendly and then the trump data team took that information, including stolen information from the democratic national committee, and created their own information sphere. once the russian bobble was popped after the 2016 election, the trump team took the ball and ran with it. the russians barely have to do anything. the trump team created lies, the trump team created propaganda and indoctrinated their own followers into believing some of most insane lies in the history of the united states to the point where they view it, you know, you were talking about radicalization, they viewed their acts as not only patriotic but that violence is the only solution, and they're carrying out a second lexington, a second concord, as your other guests said, 1776 2.0.
they think they're restoring the united states, despite et fact they are physically attacking the united states, and believe me, the way that ammunition prices went up within the last year on the public market, i think these people really believe they're going to affect the revolution at some point. >> i think that's what the challenge is, we're now finding out want ploefrs were also involved providing protesters and coaching them what they should and shouldn't keep on social media. could you speak to, because we've seen a capitol policeman also part of this investigation, how far does the commission go and what other players might w see come to the surface? >> yes, it shows the line between the maga movement and law enforcement. it's one of the things i think that blanketed law enforcement to the potential problem before january 6th. there were a lot of people in law enforcement who are conservative, it's generally the fbi that's a conservative-leaning
organization. a lot of law enforcement agencies are conservative leaning. and because they sort of saw this crowd as someone who was on their side, quote/unquote, or backing the blue, it wasn't seen as a big enough threat as it was. if you remember back to the black lives matter protests in washington last year, you look at the police response to that and look at how over-prepared and sort of guarded and militarized a lot of that response was, they had people in full -- you know, full combat gear essentially protecting federal buildings. they brought in -- they brought in federal prison guards from across the country to protect different buildings in d.c., and then you look at january 6th and it was barely sort of a blip on the radar, even though it sort of, looking through the logic, it seems so easy to follow. you had a bunch of people who believed a crazy conspiracy theory all gathering in one spot on this really important date for that major milestone in the transfer of power.
and you had a charismatic president who was basically guiding them on what to do and sending them in one direction. the idea this wasn't a potential threat or wasn't identified as big of a threat as it ultimately ended up being is really troubling and i think it's something the january 6th committee should look into closely because that's not something as these criminal cases go on, that the justice department is prosecuting, that's not a question that's going to be answered. the fbi isn't going to say hey, here's where where we screwed up. that's something that really falls to the legislative branch to answer those questions. >> a lot to discover because i think there are so many questions that remain around the commission and what exactly did happen and what the president did or did not know at the time on january 6th. ryan, malcolm, barbara, thank you so much for joining me. next -- the plan by texas republicans to stay in power by rigging the game. what can congress do about it? i'll ask leon castro and brian fallen next. and later the administration's plan to enforce trump's remain in mexico policy.
why is biden bringing back a policy he once condemned? first, richard louie with a a look at the other stories we're following here on msnbc. a search is under way for a group of missionaries kidnapped by a gang in haiti. 16 are u.s. citizens, one a canadian. the group was returning from building an orphanage when they were kidnapped near port-au-prince. one person is dead following an overnight shooting at grambling state university in louisiana. the second shooting on campus within just one week. seven were hurt last night, one critically. classes and homecoming events are now postponed. the shooter remains at large. former president bill clinton is out of the hospital after six days of treatment for a urinary tract infection. we're told clinton will remain on antibiotics as he continues his recovery from home. and the chicago sky have made history, becoming the wnba champions. they beat the phoenix mercury 80-74 in the fourth game of the wnba finals. the sky overcame a 14-point deficit in the second half to win.
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situation for democrats as the texas tribune puts it, the map gives the republicans a bigger edge increasing from 22 to 25 the number of districts that would have voted for donald trump in 2020. it consists of 23 republicans and 13 democrats. a mother jones senior reporter ari berman points out the new map hands white texans control of nearly 60% of texas districts, shis spannics only 20% and black voters only 3%. so whether it's preproductive rights, preventing trans gender students from playing in sports or rigging the system to their own game, the republicans will stop nothing to regain power. before we dig into this, another transparency of latino, which i'm the founding president, has two active laws on their voting rights legislation. joining in he is former hud secretary and 2020 presidential candidate lee an castro, and he's also a msnbc analyst. also joining me executive of
justice brian fowler. thank you both for joining me. i want to start with you first because one of the things that seems to be so off-putting in texas is a lot of things that are seen to be legislative are not coming from the grassroots. a lot of it seems to be coming out of washington, whether we're talking about the her damage foundation when it comes to the voting rights restrictions or when it comes to the anti-abortion laws. can you speak to that, how this is inconsistent with what texans want if it's coming from outside of the state? >> there's a huge gap between the people of texas now today, the texas that we live in and the gop leadership that, of course, is in cahoots with gop leadership in washington, d.c. as you know, this is nothing new. folks will remember about 20 years ago when congressman tom delay led an effort, started an effort in texas to do mid-decade redistricting, and so that connection between texas
republicans and d.c. republicans to rig the system here in texas, to make sure that republicans stay in power, that has been there for a long time and now they have taken it to a new level. as you mentioned with these new maps that completely block out the ability of the communities that are growing in the state, people of color contributed to 95% of the growth in the state over the last decade, cuts them out of any new political power that they should rightfully get. the voter suppression legislation that they passed, any number of other measures they put in place just to try and squeeze out as many more years as they can in power because they recognize that what happened in arizona, what happened in georgia, will happen here in texas. >> and let's underscore, it is shocking that even though the texas population that grew 95% of the people of color, and they don't want to recognize that type of control and that kind of power. brian, what do you say to that?
i think that is what's most shocking, after the supreme court gutted the voting rights act, and i'm asking you because you do so much work on the supreme court, after they gutted this map right now, it would not have passed mustard prior to that. what do you say to this? >> well, the supreme court's actions, especially in the voting rights realm, have just emboldened republicans at the state level to get more and more aggressive in their voter suppression and gerrymandering tactics and i just think it puts into even starker relief the need for the senate and the house to act on comprehensive voting rights reform. next week in the senate chuck schumer announced they're going to vote on the freedom to vote ask, which is a compromised version of voting rights legislation that joe manchin says he can support. the measure is obviously going to fail, it's tested low. the question is what are the democrats and what is the biden administration going to do after that fails? are they going to press joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to
reconsider their position on the filibuster? that's what it will take to pass this law. i have to be honest with you, i think frustrations are boiling over in the democratic party with the biden administration that they're too focused on the infrastructure bill, not focused enough quite frankly on this law, this proposed law. you have voices across the democratic party, sherrod brown, who is not a productive, conflict-seeking democrat saying no, the biden administration is not doing enough. adam schiff saying this weekend he would like to see as much effort from the biden administration on behalf of this bill as they're putting into infrastructure, damon hewitt, a friend of mine who runs the lawyers committee for civil rights saying the pulpit could be bullier. i think that puts itle with. senator castro among those in the spring saying the biden administration should be prioritizing voting rights over infrastructure perhaps. and i think it's prescient now because neither bill has passed all of these months later and if jason derulo supports the freedom to volt act, it's hard to change the filibuster move, but if he supports the freedom
to vote act, which we can't say for the reconciliation package unfortunately. >> what does your crystal ball tell you will happen? i ask you this because what brian is flagging is unless the freedom to vote act is passed that provides and prevents gerrymandering, republican state legislators are rigging the map, and it will be almost impossible to appeal them back and it will be -- i'm sorry, it will be easier for the republicans then to win back the house next year. what does your crystal ball say? what advice and counsel do you have for the biden administration and legislators right now in the senate? >> my advice for the biden administration is, as brian said, they have to treat this like the emergency that it is, like the schedule threat to our democracy that it represents. a couple months back, there was a report that said for the infrastructure package that the
administration had, had 300 separate meetings with folks on the hill. you know, i want to see the 300 meetings for making sure we pass voting rights legislation and also, you know, other important pieces of investing in our social infrastructure. there needs to be that full-court press, because if not, then the field day that texas republicans, that georgia republicans, that other republicans across the country are having, rigging the system to stay in power, is going to become absolutely the norm, and the question is not just going to be whether democrats are going to get elected, it's going to be is our democracy even going to exist in the way that we know it today if they don't do something about it. in a few years' time the answer could be no. so the biden administration needs to treat this as the emergency that it is. >> i think as those facts said, you have an actual group of republicans who don't believe everyone should have access to the voting booth, that is
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with me now are nbc news expandant julia ainsley and co-director of the national day labor organizing network. julia, i want to start with you because one of the things that was a bit surprising was the walkout. this administration had started talking to immigration advocates long before they even actually put officially into the white house. can you talk about where that friction is and what you expect to be the fallout, if anything, from this? >> yes, it's a fascinating area
and one that we don't always get to talk about because it seems like we're just jumping from one thing to another when it comes to the immigration policy and what's going on at the border with this administration. but what we're understanding now is a lot of advocacy groups that had a lot of high hopes for this administration, a lot of people even came over from the administration from advocacy groups and joined government, they're starting to have a friction now because they have not seen daca passed as a permanent fix to daca, they're still seeing title 42 in place. in fact, it's a lot of advocacy groups suing the administration to lift title 42 as you mentioned not only to support the haitians but haitians coming to the border this year. and now mexico. and president biden said they're only reimplementing because they were forced to do so by court. but all of this culminates in frustration and it's not just advocates of the administration but real divide in the
administration. we know of several d shxt officials who have recently left and told me this is an administration at war with itself because it can't decide how progressive they want to be when it comes to the border. >> nadia, one of the things we are seeing is the parliamentarian basically axed a lot of the work the immigration advocates want. what is the state of play, given what julia was saying -- i was about to change your name to spanish, hula, but what julia is saying that there seems to be friction within the administration and, again, what she pointed out is so unique that there are so many advocates who were on the outside now on the inside, where do we find ourselves right now with the parliamentarian saying no daca decision? what are you seeing and what are the pathways forward in your opinion? >> well, i mean, right now as you mentioned, things seem to be going wrong for immigration reform. things are not moving forward in
congress, on border enforcement, with mcd and title 42. on the other hand last week there was one area where there was a glimmer of hope, which was the announcement from dhs that they were recognizing, finally, that labor enforcement and immigration enforcement policies in the united states are in direct conflict, and the new policy creates a system where there can be an incentive for workers to come forward and blow the whistle on their employers and that's a good sign it's moving in the right direction. >> julia, i met with secretary mayorkas a couple weeks ago. one of the things he stated is that work enforcement inside the united states by i.c.e. was down roughly 70%. what impact does that have overall? >> you know, it's important that we're talking about different
populations. that does have a big impact on those immigrants living here sometimes for decades. some immigrants or maybe even people who came in with their parents, daca recipients living in fear, people who really went underground during the early years of the trump administration, very fearful offese raids. think about mississippi a few years ago when there were children waiting for their parents to come home from work who were never coming home because they were roundedp in widespread raids. that pressure has really been alleviated by this administration. but that does not change the calculus for those asylum seekers crossing the border. they have a harder time coming in here today than you would have at the beginning of the trump administration pre-covid 2019, it's harder now because of title 42 being in place. a lot alleviated inside the united states for that population but it's a different story when you look at the border. >> i think one of the challenges, as julia pointed
out, we will oftentimes conflate the immigration issue and recognize we are talking about two populations, roughly the 11 million, nadia, that live here within our border and lived hoar about roughly 20 years at minimum versus people who are trying to keep asylum. when you are talking to the administration, what do you hear folks saying when it comes to the 11 million and likelihood for an eventual path to citizenship, nadia? >> i mean, when -- i think it is true that there are different populations but the other truth is that the main reason that people come to the united states and what every worker is engaged in here and what immigration worker is engaged in is work. so immigration is key and recognizing the connection between immigration enforcement and labor policy is also key, and inside the administration, i don't know what the discussions are inside, but i do know that
they need to take this head on, take on this opportunity to use the authority that the administration had at a time when every other avenue is stuck. they need to take that opportunity to encourage workers to come forward and change the dynamics so that employers are not the ones who are incentivized to exploit workers and drive down wages. workers are the ones who are incentivized to come forward, regardless of their immigration status and are able to actually enforce their rights. >> and this week is going to be an immigration rule that we will be following closely. julia, one of the lingering impacts of the trump administration is the incarceration, sadly, of children. we're learning there are still roughly 11,000 children in detention. what is the biden administration doing to alleviate and remove them from those places and bring them into guardianships of some
sort? >> well, first, it's important to remember that these children are in the care of hhs. it's not i.c.e., it's not punitive, and it's hard really for any administration to imagine a difference in that system where children would go straight from a border processing center to be released at large in the united states. these are children who are need to have some kind of shelter and be provided for and then have the people who are coming forward to be their sponsors, to have them vetted. the problem is sometimes there's a back log. it could be over a month or two months before people who are begging to come forward, parents who are calling the hotline every day saying i'm in the united states ready to pick up my child, until they're actually able to be reunited. we know they have tried to speed up the process in a lot of ways but there's also been a number of problems. we've had reporting here on msnbc and on nbc about whistle-blowers who have come forward saying i have solutions myself that can come forward and this administration, these contractors were not willing to
do them. still a lot of work that needs to be done in our area. >> please continue your reporting and i'm sorry i called you hula, julia. julia and thattedia, thank you so much for joining me this evening. next, empty shells and higher prices, american inflation and supply shortage ahead. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ at t-mobile for business, unconventional thinking means we see things differently, so you can focus on what matters most. whether it's ensuring food arrives as fresh as when it departs... being first on the scene when every second counts... or teaching biology without a lab. we are the leader in 5g and a partner who delivers exceptional
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left in a spot where they may not see all of the ways they're paying more for less. this the result of so-called shadow inflation. you may have heard of inflation and even shrink-flation. what is shadow inflation? >> inflation is usually when you're getting the same thing for more money. but in this case something that you purchased in the past isn't as good as it was before, but you're nonetheless paying the same price for it. >> reporter: to keep up with their rising cost and labor shortages that hit the country in the last year, businesses need to pass on costs but don't want to scare customers off by raising prices too much. so some are instead cutting their service quality. for example, hotels cutting down cleaning services. an end of daily room cleaning means up to 39% of housekeeping jobs may be gone forever. according to a hotel workers union. >> i think there was a lot of
people that came out of the big chain hotel market and moved into residential due to either being fired or they didn't feel that they wanted to go off on their own. and as far as inflation goes, it's really just the gas prices and then the equipment and all of that. >> reporter: many other businesses across the marketplace also cutting costs to keep up. >> when it comes 0 airfares, you might have found you're more likely to be bumped or canceled, sometimes you just see it as little details like when you're in a fast food establishment, how many of the soda machines are broken or buttons on the soda fountain don't work? if you're trying to get a contractor to come work on your house, it seems like they're even less responsive than they normally are. >> reporter: but many of these changes like adjustments to customer service are hard to measure with traditional metrics of inflation.
which means it's hard for customers to see how much they're actually losing out. >> what happened in 2020 and 2021 is a lot of products had changed really suddenly. so you had a lot of these very disruptive, very big changes that are hard during inflation to mix value are happening at once. >> reporter: so shadow indplags or secret pay cut, and what can workers do to make sure they're getting their money's worth? for now, it's a bit of a gamble. save for when prices fall -- >> you'll find better value for your money in the future but if you can't afford to wait, if you really need a car now, then you're kind of left in the lurch. >> or spend before they go up again. but experts warn if enough shoppers start doing that, it could drive inflation up even higher. >> that was nbc's ben hawkin reporting. next from snapchat to the debate stage, welcome to american politics in the digital age.
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information on thousands of local elections and tips for getting on the ballot. it is an effort already bearing fruit. as one tells nbc she is ready to head to the hill. >> my dream is to run for u.s. senate. i have this conversation with my parents all the time. i am saying this is what i want to do. they're like, go fight for your dreams. go get 'em. i'm like, where do i really go from there? >> joining me now the co-founders of run for something. amanda also serves as its executive director. let me ask you. you have to know that i absolutely love this because you are meeting future leaders where they are with this snapchat program and what folks don't often realize is that generation z is the largest most multi cultural generation in american history. speak a little bit about the partnership and what you all hope to accomplish. >> well, a thing most people
don't realize about snapchat is something like 90% of americans between the ages of 13 and 24 are on the platform. so we are thrilled to be able to recruit these young people to really engage not just as voters, not just as volunteers, but as future candidates. they are the kind of public servants i think our democracy really needs. >> well, and one of the things that is so striking is that over 65% of gen z voted for president biden. when you start recruiting them not just to vote but to re-imagine themselves as running for office, what do you think this generation's values will differ from those currently in office? >> i think having representation of folks from gen z and elected office would change this so much. i mean if you really think about it the folks who are currently in office, a vast majority have no student loan debt. huge numbers of folks in gen z, huge numbers of millennials have
large numbers in student loan debt and i think huge numbers of folks are interested in criminal justice reform, large numbers of people are interested and really motivated by climate change. issues of the previous generation just no longer resonate with young folks today. >> when i do voter registration latino work i don't need to convince a young voter climate change is real, i just need to convince them to vote. how do you change that equation and encourage people to run for office? something i found really fascinating was that according to ballot-pedia 70% of elections go uncontested with no challenger. how will this initiative possibly change that? >> it is as simple as simply asking them. since we launched nearly five years ago what we've found is more than 85,000 young people across the country have raised
their hands because we asked. the snapchat partnership in the first week brought in 4,000 of them mostly young people 85% under the age of 30. about one-third under the age of 21. two-thirds people of color. more than one-third lgbtq plus really reflective of what the future majority i think of the american people are and more importantly once we asked them they raised their hands. i just think no one had ever asked young people to run for office before. it is what makes this partnership with snapchat so revolutionary. it is the largest ever recruitment of candidates as far as we know. >> one thing that is revolutionary is you are encouraging young people to run for office. what are often the obstacles besides not being asked? what are the obstacles that young people face in order to get into the ring. >> some of them include young people need to make money. it is really difficult to campaign and have a job at the
same time. you know, oftentimes you get older folks who are already running, you know, essentially telling you to wait in line. there's tons of issues that are specific to gen z that are also really specific to women and people of color as well. when you think about running for office and that is what we're trying to do, run for something, and trying to do with the snapchat partnership. >> amanda and ross, thank you so much. young people tuning in and those parents, tell them to run for something. more on "american voices" next but first a preview ahead tonight on msnbc. hey there. tonight at 9:00 eastern on ayman who will control congress for the next ten years? it could come down to the supreme court. i'll discuss the impact scotus could have on redistricting with my sunday night panel. catch ayman tonight at 9:00 eastern right here on msnbc. n t eastern right here on msnbc. knowing you understand your glucose levels.
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of all of the threats to american democracy, republican gerrymandering could be the biggest of all and could decide not just the results of the midterms but the next presidential election as well. i'll explain how. plus former president trump is holding his own court. we'll get to the what and why with mary trum's attorney. and finally, a south asian super hero. i'll speak to acclaimed comedian actor and now muscle bound star. good evening. i'm mehdi hasan. we are a little over a year away from crucial midterm elections in this country. if republicans win back the house they could block not just joe biden's entire agenda but also the certification of the next presidential election in 2024. for that, they need to flip five just five democratic seats next november. now, what if i told you that republicans could win back