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you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome, everyone, to "alex witt reports." a busy week ahead in washington as the january 6 select committee is gearing up for a vote to hold steve bannon in criminal contempt after the former trump aide was a no-show for his deposition last week. here's what one member of the committee, congressman adam schiff, had to say about it this morning. >> we're not messing around here. we're moving very expeditiously. to me this is an early sign of whether our democracy is recovering, whether it's true that no one is above the law, that the rule of law must apply. so we intend to go after anyone who doesn't provide information that they're lawfully compelled to, to our committee. also on the hill, new reaction from democrats as the white house is likely to drop a key component of biden's plan to battle climate change from the build back better package after facing opposition from senator joe manchin. house budget committee chair
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john yarmuth tells msnbc what it could mean for negotiations. >> there is a renewed understanding from both progressives and moderates that we have to get done what we can get done, that taking 80% what have we want is a pretty good victory at this point. also new today, transportation secretary pete buttigieg firing back at tucker carlson after the fox news host mocked him for going on paternity leave. >> as you might imagine, we're bottle feeding and doing ittal all hours of the day and night. and i'm not going to apologize to tucker carlson or anyone else for taking care of my premature newborn infant twins. the work that we are doing is joyful, fulfilling, wonderful work. it's important work. and it's work that every american ought to be able to do when they welcome a new child
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into their family. >> 100% right, there. for a deeper look at the headlines, nbc's monica alba and julie serkin join us. monica, how are the lawmakers reacting to the clean energy component of the bill that's being dropped? >> reporter: president biden is ever the optimist but he offered a dose of reality on friday that's a pretty good inside on where things are right now on the so-called human infrastructure bill. while campaigning for his build back better bill, he acknowledged the bill will be slashed significantly. what we read into that is behind the scenes they're deciding what stays and what goes. but a giant element of this that the white house has been touting for months was the climate
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initiative, all these programs that they put on the same footing in importance as childcare, elder care, paid family leave, all these other things that would be included, again, we just don't know what may end up on the chopping block because these different sides of the democratic party are still hashing it out. when asked today by chuck todd on "meet the press," the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, said he didn't want to get ahead of the negotiations but it speaks to where climate fits into the overall agenda, priority-wise. >> i'm not going to predict legislative mechanics. what i will say is we've got to get this done and we've got to get this done for the american people and the american economy. the build back better vision and the infrastructure bill are supported by a majority of americans. they're going to make lives better concretely in this country. they're going to strengthen the economy. >> reporter: so what's so complicated here is of course the compressed timeline, alex. and we did hear from white house press secretary jen psaki just
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in the last couple of days that time is not unending, these talks can't go on forever, they're not interested in that. so you hear a little bit of the impatience and the frustration growing. part of that is because this major u.n. climate summit is going to be taking place in scotland, cop 26. the president will be there, the former president obama will be there. half the cabinet is going. and they were hoping to really tout some major progress on these climate initiatives, when really at the exact same time what might be happening is maybe they'll be stripped out of this thing entirely and then votes may not even take place by the halloween deadline. congressional leadership is aiming for all of that to come together around the same weekend, october 31. it's going to be quite, quite a huge test for this administration, alex. >> 100%, there's a certain unwelcome irony in the fact that this would be the issue at this time that would be withdrawn from the bill overall. okay, monica, thank you for that. let's go to capitol hill where the focus tuesday will be on
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trump's former aides subpoenaed by the january 6 committee and criminal contempt proceedings against steve bannon. let's go to julie serkin. lawmakers are framing this as a message to anyone thinking about defying the congressional subpoenas including donald trump. >> reporter: alex, exactly right. many democrats on the house select committee have conducted oversight of the trump administration for years and they're unfortunately familiar with trump allies obstructing congress. that's why they're pursuing this subpoena against steve bannon no matter how lengthy or tedious it may be. they're working out whether to issue a subpoena for the president himself. chairman bennie thompson said nothing is off the table. but they are deciding whether that should be something the committee spends time on, even steve bannon's testimony being
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held up here. adam kinzinger was asked this morning whether the investigation would even be complete without the former president's testimony. here is what he had to say. >> what we really want to do is make sure we're getting every piece of this puzzle. that's going to include people that will come in and talk to us, people who we're going to subpoena in the future whose names you probably have never heard of who have good incentives to come in to us to talk. speaking quite honestly, if we subpoena all of a sudden the former president, we know that's going to become kind of a circus so that's not necessarily something we want to do up front. but he has information we need, we certainly will. >> reporter: congressman kinzinger there very much leaving the door open for this. but what he said there about it being a circus, you can imagine how that would play out with the former president fighting tooth and nail even now to prevent his former aides from testifying,
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from handing over documents, asserting all kinds of executive privileges. it remains to be seen if this would be worth the committee's time. as you heard there, if they need to do it, they will. >> okay, julie tserkin, thank you very much for that. breaking news on former president bill clinton. clinton has been released from a california hospital after dealing with a serious infection since early last week. >> reporter: alex, a positive development. the former president was given the green light this morning to head back home to new york for further treatment. he was seen leaving uc irvine medical center earlier this morning, in what appeared to be good spirits. we were told he had been joking throughout his stay at the hospital. as he left, he had his wife, former secretary of state hillary clinton, on his arm. someone shouted, asking how he was doing. and he flashed a thumbs up before proceeding down a line of health care workers, shaking their hands, giving hugs.
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his doctor this morning had said that his fever and white blood cell count had normalized, allowing them, allowing clinton to go back home for further treatment. clinton had been in town for an event with his foundation. last tuesday, he fell ill and was admitted to the hospital. he was diagnosed with a urinary tract infection that we're told infected his bloodstream. he was given antibiotics through an iv rather than orally, which were hearing led to a longer stay. and the 45th president has a history of heart problems, undergoing several major surgeries which prompted him to make some major lifestyle changes including becoming vegan. president biden over the last couple of days said he talked to clinton and he was encouraged by his recovery and progress, progress that ultimately cleared clinton to head back home, alex. >> as we said earlier, i'm sure he will be very happy to sleep
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in his own bed tonight rather than a hospital bed with an iv hookup. thank you very much. turning everyone to a very shocking story. an investigation is now underway after philadelphia's transit agency says a woman was raped on one of its trains while that train was in service. officials say witnesses were on board that train and could have stopped this sooner but they didn't call 911. reporter brian sheehan from our nbc station wcau in philadelphia has the latest details. >> it's not right. it's not right. >> it's disgusting. >> reporter: riders on the frankford line say no one called police when a man sexually assaulted a woman on a train last night. a septa employee called police when she noticed something wasn't right on the train headed to upper darby. >> if they weren't present there, he would have walked off and who knows if we would have
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found him. >> reporter: video shows a man, identified as a 35-year-old, sexually assaulting the woman. the video also shows witnesses sitting there doing nothing. >> it's disturbing that there were definitely people on the "l." and nobody intervened or did anything to help this woman out. >> reporter: riders we spoke with are also disturbed by the witnesses' lack of action. >> it makes me sick, everybody saw but didn't do everything. >> that's crazy. nobody said nothing, nobody did anything? that's ridiculous. if you see something, say something. >> reporter: burnhart says it's not too late to do just that. they're asking for anybody who may have seen something to come forward. >> we're working to see what people saw and trying to identify them and get information from them as well. >> that was wcau's brian sheehan reporting. joining me from philadelphia is
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a defense attorney. when this first crossed the wires, i was sickened by it all. that was certainly reflected in the interviews my colleague did there for wcau. is there any likely responsibility of witnesses in this situation from a criminal perspective? is it illegal to not stop a crime or at least call 911? >> well, so pennsylvania doesn't have a good samaritan law, which is a law that some states have. it basically is that if you are a position that you can do something, that you should do something. and if you don't do something, you will be held liable for that. but unfortunately here in pennsylvania there is no such law. when i heard about this report, it was very sickening, and i was very upset. i actually contacted the superintendent, mr. burnhart, talked to him today, on a sunday, i said i'm sorry for bothering you but i have to get more details on this. unfortunately it is just as horrible as it sounds. the information that's been reported is pretty accurate to
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what happened. this woman was just brutally raped and assaulted on the train. fortunately for septa police and upper darby police, they were waiting for this guy when he got off the train and were able to do something in this case. >> how about legal repercussions civilly speaking? these riders could face something for watching a woman get raped and their inaction. >> it's sad and disheartening but unfortunately it's not illegal. some of our viewers might have thought this was some sort of consensual act but that even goes to say how are you not disheartened to watch something on a train and not think to call 911 anyway, even if you believe it was consensual or you thought you didn't know what was going on? this lady was getting raped and nobody did anything about it. thank god the septa worker
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thought something was up and thank god police were waiting for him when he got off the train. but nothing legal will happen to anyone who did not intervene in this case. >> how often do you hear officials in philadelphia making an appeal to bystanders, essentially telling them to, if you see something, say something? you heard that phrase from someone who was interviewed. we've heard that phrase so many times now. do you hear that as commonly in philadelphia? >> yes. what you have going on in philadelphia right now, and this is basically something that's going on across the nation, it's kind of what i would like to say, an experiment of sorts. we all lived through the tough on crime, the mandatory minimums, and the really crackdown, hard on crime. we lived through that time. and then now there's been a progressive approach that's been more of a rehabilitation approach. and yes, time will only tell whether or not -- which side was right. is hard on crime better? is a hammer better? or a more progressive approach
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where we're focusing on rehabilitation? and yes, you know, the officials here in philadelphia do appeal to the public, they're trying to bridge a better relationship with the public by being more progressive and trying to get people to contribute or call 911 and participate more in their community. >> can i ask you quickly, is this a slam dunk case because of the video? typically rape is a he said/she said or at least two parties together contradicting what happened. here there is videotaped evidence. will this man go behind bars? >> he's looking at 20 years in jail, lifetime megan's law. i had a case like this recently that the incident took place on a trolley, there were so many videos, it made a big
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back now with the breaking news from haiti. the reported kidnapping of 17 missionaries, mostly americans, believed to have been abducted yesterday afternoon in a town east of port-au-prince. nbc's sam brock joins me from little haiti, miami. as you work to independently confirm details about this, sam, what are you finding out about conditions in haiti for aid workers on the ground? >> reporter: alex, it's a great question. in a country that's been rocked by government dysfunction and earthquakes and all manner of problems there, the very people that are trying to help those in need with aid and education and
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schooling and shelter, in some cases are the ones being targeted. alex, we have breaking news to bring to you. previously the u.s. state department had only said reports had been confirmed of kidnappings. the department would not confirm the actual kidnappings. but christian aid ministries has been based in haiti, missioned in haiti for a number of years, put this on their website, saying a group of 16 u.s. citizens and one canadian citizens includes five children. the kidnappers, the families, friends, and churches of those affected,. this is a trend we've seen in haiti. one of the most dangerous places on the planet for a very long time but it's gotten worse since the assassination of the president over this past summer and another earthquake that
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killed thousands of people. there have been 328 reported kidnappings since the first of the year. the scale could be even bigger. >> at least 628 people have been kidnapped since the first of the year. dozens of foreigners. oftentimes they were doing it even without face coverings, mean they don't really care who knows their identity at this point. and so it's brazen, it's common. and if the reports are true that 17 americans have been kidnapped, including children, we have to get them back immediately and we have to hold those accountable who did the kidnapping because they don't want open season on americans or anybody at this point with regard to kidnappings. >> reporter: alex, there is other developing news we're following right now. the associated press is reporting according to haitian police, it is the same group that committed this abduction
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that also kidnapped five french priests and two nuns. we've seen this kind of activity before, it's children sometimes caught in the middle, that seems to be the case here. again, five kids according to christian aid ministries. >> and you're still awaiting word from the state department to confirm all these details, correct? >> reporter: that is correct. the white house also appears to be deferring to state right now, alex. so no official word from the white house, no official word from the u.s. state department. but certainly the requests right now are coming for them to weigh in on this. >> 100%. sam brock, thank you for that. the big lie is on the ballot in 2022, according to new reporting from nbc news, as donald trump's false election claims remain one of the central issues motivating campaigns of both republicans and democrats leading up to the midterm elections and the outcome could have some major consequences.
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joining me now, one of the reporters who wrote that story, henry gomez, nbc news national political reporter. henry, big welcome to you. in this article, which we'll get into right now, you write, consciously or not, voters in 2022 could render a final judgment on the conspiracy theories that trump and his allies have spent 11 months nurturing. give me some more details about your reporting and how consequential you think the next election is. >> yeah, alex, we've been living this for almost the last year, all of these false claims about the last presidential election. we've been through a very partisan audit in arizona that did not show any evidence that would change the outcome that have election. so what we're seeing now are candidates on both sides, but especially among republicans, lining up for races up and down the ballot in 2022, from governors' races, senate races, secretaries of state, all the way down to state legislatures. and they're running in many cases primarily on this issue.
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if you're a republican, you're running on the falsehood that the election was stolen and that we must elect more republicans to these offices to make sure it doesn't happen again. if you're a democrat, you're running on the importance of protecting these elections from office holders who might choose to overturn results simply on partisan grounds and bad faith arguments. so we're really going to see voters in a unique position to rule on this next year. >> and what's interesting, you mentioned, it really runs the gamut. you write about the fact that secretary of state campaigns here, they're not usually seen as partisan, they're not even high profile, typically. why are they now, especially in specific states where you're seeing this? >> in many states the secretary of state is the office that oversees, administers, tabulates, and certifies election results. when you look at georgia, which was a close race last year,
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former president trump pressured republican secretary of state brad raffensperger to find him enough votes to win the election. of course raffensperger refused. now raffensperger is up for reelection and trump has endorsed congressman jodie heiss who is unabashedly promoting trump and the big lie. >> these candidates who say the election was stolen from trump, do you sense they are pushing these unfounded, disproven claims that have been overwhelmingly shown to be completely false, because they believe them? or do they just want a trump endorsement? >> no question, the possibility of a trump endorsement is a huge factor in this messaging. and one example i can give you is in the ohio senate race, there are six candidates, five are working strenuously for trump's endorsement. one of those candidates, josh mandel, we wrote about in the
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story. he talked about how even if this hurts him in a general election, because a majority of voters when you factor in democrats and independents don't think the election was stolen, he doesn't care, he says it's the right thing to do. but when you're trying to stand out among other candidates, it's become a rush to be the most extreme when it comes to your messaging on what happened in 2020. josh mandel is certainly leading the republican field in ohio when it comes to that count. >> so interesting, you have to obviously get through the primaries and win them to get to the general election, but this ideology seems so short-sighted, to your point. a lot of voters are like, no, the election is done, let's move on. henry gomez, good to chat with you, come see me again. about those backlogs at u.s. ports, they could cause deep, long term damage to the economy. we'll have more on that in just a moment. stay with us.
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stuck off the coast of california and what it could mean for the economy. nbc's scott cohn joins us again from long beach, california. one of kind of effect, scott, will this issue have on the economy overall? i don't see anything good coming from it. >> reporter: no, you're absolutely right, alex, it's truly gumming you want works. we can show you, actually, some of this. the ship behind me, we actually watched it pull into port here yesterday morning when we were on the air, just before we went on the air with ali velshi. you can see they're still unloading it. it's probably going to take a couple of days before they unload it, reload it, and get things on their way and get the goods to where they need to be. this ship actually came a port in eastern china. that is normally about a two-week journey. it actually left china on
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september 21. so you can see that it's been taking about twice as much time because of the big backlogs here in the ports. these delays are costly on so many, many levels. that means inflation. and what economists say is really concerning is, they don't know when this will end. >> you don't know if it's going to resolve itself in 2023. you don't want to snuff out demand and make things worse for these workers down the road. but it is going to be a very tough call going forward. >> reporter: so the thinking going into this, and sort of coming out of the worst of the pandemic, was yes, there would be inflation and disruptions. but the big buzzword in economic circles was that it's transitory. they've kind of dropped talking about that now. no one is sure how long it will take for these bottlenecks to work through and more importantly, the costs to the economy. that means inflation. that means your dollar doesn't
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go as far as it used to. that ultimately could be a really big drag on the economy, and a drag on all of our household balance sheets. so that's the big concern here. these supply chain bottlenecks are just part of it. experts say one of the issues here is that we had a supply chain system going into the pandemic that really had no margin for error. i mean, everything comes in when it comes in, it gets to where it has to go. a lot of this is concentrated in ports from asia, probably more so than needed to be. that is likely to change coming out of pandemic. but again, that leads to more costs, potentially more inflation. and it's one big aspect, big effect of this pandemic that we haven't been focusing on too much. but we will be for some time to come. >> we're doing it today with you, my friend. thank you so much, scott cohn. new information about a key player in former president trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election. jeffrey clark now faces a subpoena by the house committee
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investigating the january 6 attack on the capitol. and joining me now is msnbc daily columnist and editor hayes brown. his latest piece is titled "doj official jeffrey clark pushed trump's coup from the inside. we need to know why." welcome, my friend. let's get into this. walk us through who jeffrey clark is and why he's so crucial to the january 6 committee investigation. >> so jeffrey clark is not the kind of person you would have expected to be backing trump's coup at the start of things. he was a republican lawyer. he was at doj for a while, two years running their environmental division. just your typical run of the mill governmental bureaucratic lawyer. he became the head of the civil division of doj last september. and by the time the election had passed, especially by december, he had become someone who was convinced that there were weird irregularities and fraud in the 2020 presidential election. all the things that trump was pushing. and as a lawyer inside doj, he
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was primed to be able to push out this idea that the state legislatures could overturn biden's win and invalidate the electors, for the electoral college that they were going to send to washington. he is a key player because he was a member of the establishment, someone you would not expect to be someone all in on trump's idea that he could overturn the election. >> but what's so interesting, he's certainly not alone there. he's an example of the larger theme that we saw with the president trying to overturn the 2020 election. in fact in your piece, you ask, quote, how did so many mild-mannered, otherwise intelligent americans become convinced that former president donald trump really did win the 2020 election? are you any closer to answering that question? >> i wish that i was. i think that's part of why jeffrey clark's testimony to the january 6 committee is going to be really useful in that effect.
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i mean, we're still all trying to wrap our heads around what that appeal is that trump has in terms of the big lie, in terms of saying that there was massive fraud in the election even though there is no proof that there was a coordinated campaign of fraud in the 2020 election. and the fact that trump is still moving forward and pushing this idea going into 2022 and 2024, i think that clark's testimony and hopefully they ask him how he got from point a from point b here. how is it that he became so enamored with the big lie when all of his legal training says otherwise, all of the evidence says otherwise, and when we all know for a fact that there was not the level of systemic fraud that other republicans claimed there was. >> it's an extraordinary question. it's become rhetorical, almost. i ask myself almost every day, how did this happen? anyway, let me ask you also about another piece you wrote, this was on friday, about critical race theory. critical race theory, it's become the latest cultural
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flashpoint for republicans that they're focusing on. do you think this debate is going to bleed into the midterm elections? and if it does, how does it affect things? >> i think it absolutely will, because it's the nicer way the republicans have to talk about race and say that basically black people and people of color are whining. that's what this is all about. this is the nicer -- talking about, oh, we don't want our kids to have this pushed on them, we don't want them to be told what to think, saying systemic racism doesn't exist. it's the kindler, gentler way, in a sense, to push this what it supremacy narrative, to push this idea that the grievances that you have, things are changing and you don't like it because you're old and white and don't want to face the truth that systemic racism has been built into this country. i think that is an unfortunately potent thing for republicans to latch onto. it's less vitriolic than trump
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but it also doesn't accept the realities of america's history. it wants to push this sort of rah-rah narrative of america, this very patriotic, we have done nothing wrong in our lives ever, idea that a lot of people really want to cling to. so i really think this is going to unfortunately play into a lot of the midterms. >> virginia as well. >> virginia as well. >> because of education, that's an issue there too. >> yeah, what's really interesting in virginia, and it highlights how critical race theory is kind of lumped into this "won't someone please think about the children" narrative that's spinning around the right wing now, they're talking about how their kids are having to wear masks, they're having to talk about critical race theory, transgender kids will be able to play sports and go to the bathroom that they want to, all being clumped into this moral panic situation and the fact that we have race and antiscience and
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anti-lgbt-rights, all in this toxic morass being fed to the republican base, but being framed in a way that the people in the suburbs can look and not say, you know what, i care about children, i want my children to be happy in school, i'm going to be okay with this right now. >> okay, hayes, do me a favor, keep asking the questions, keep writing about it, and keep coming on to talk about them, i love our chats, appreciate them. following the money in the january 6 attack. what investigates are hoping to learn, next. liberty mutual.i love they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? you got it. ♪ liberty, liberty - liberty, liberty ♪ uh, i'll settle for something i can dance to. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need.
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a new investigation by "the washington post" raises questions about a donor that helped finance donald trump's january 6 rally. reporters say they reviewed records that showed the same donor also gave money to the republican attorneys general association, a nonprofit group that helped republicans get elected as top prosecutors in states around the country. joining me now, jacqueline ailemany. welcome back, good to see you, jacqueline. these donations are in and of themselves not unusual. but did you see anything in the records that links the organization with trump's january 6 rally? >> yeah, alex, thanks so much for having me back. this investigation by my colleagues beth rhinehart and
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tom kemperer and i found two donations that ultimately went into helping plan the stop the steal rally. one is to one of the organizations that was involved with putting on a rally that preceded the january 6 insurrection. the second payment we uncovered and reported for the first time is that $160,000 payment to the republican attorney generals association which in part helped fund this robocall that was put out by the rule of law defense fund, the nonprofit arm of the republican attorney general association, that encouraged people to go to the stop the steal rally, again, that receded the insurrection at the capitol and encouraged people to then go to the capitol and to tell legislators and lawmakers to not certify the election and to support donald trump's bid to overturn the results of the election.
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this is something, this money trail, as you noted, is something we're going to be following closely, something that the select committee is looking at very closely to see who else in part helped plan and foment the insurrection that we saw ultimately happen on january 6, on the capitol. >> all right. so the heiress who donated the funds told "the wall street journal", quote, i'm a proud conservative yet i would never support any violence, particularly the tragic and horrific events that unfolded on january 6. the publix chain says she's not involved in the company's business operations, that the violence on that day does not reflect their values. but what does your report show about what she knew her money was being used for? >> yeah, look, you know, the reporting shows that she wanted to in part support the rally
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that was going on. did anyone know prior to the insurrection, though, that this was something that was going to turn violent? no, those are not threads that we can connect here. but we do know the intent was in part to support getting people from across the country to this rally and supporting the republican attorney generals association's involvement in the stop the steal rally. of course there was lots of peripheral planning that was more under the radar and didn't run through raga, at least based on what we know at the moment. and that is also a part of this investigation but not something that we are connecting to this donor. >> okay. so what about prosecutors who are members of the attorneys general board, group, rather? were they on board? >> yeah, that's another thing that lawmakers on the select committee are looking to
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investigate. attorney general ken paxton wrote the brief that ultimately went to the supreme court, arguing to overturn the election results in michigan, wisconsin, georgia, and one other state that i'm blanking on at the moment. >> we should say, by the way, he's the texas attorney general. >> yes. >> so he, from texas, was writing about these other states, of which he is not in leadership. i'm sorry. >> no, that's important to note, alex. he spoke at the stop the steal rally. he was the attorney general that showed up on behalf of the republican attorney generals association. he in particular is of interest to the select committee. he was mentioned in the documents request that went out when the committee first started for communications between paxton and state officials, as is listed on the letter
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transmitting the request. we'll be looking closely to see if other states' attorney generals were actively involved in the planning surrounding and involving the ininsurrection. >> as this all unfolds, come back and tell us what you found, jacqueline, thank you, it's an important story. a new poll says nearly 70% of vaccinated americans say they will get a booster shot if recommended. that's next. ready for subway's eat fresh refresh™?
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officials about this? >> reporter: alex, good afternoon. health officials are saying there's so much interest in those boosters right now. people are showing up to vaccination sites like the one here at the american museum of natural history in new york and asking about them. soon even more people will be eligible for them likely, as you mentioned. the fda has to sign off on both the moderna vaccine boosters as well as the johnson & johnson boosters. for the j&j booster, it's for anyone over 18 who had the shot as recently as two months ago. new york health officials here tell us they are ready for a surge of people coming to get those boosters. >> we are expecting a surge of individuals that will come by to receive our ask about the moderna booster. for the is i didn't do depending on what the fda and cdc guidance say, it was administered much later in the rollout of the
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vaccine, so we'll see what they say in terms of the johnson & johnson vaccine. >> reporter: now, that j&j booster would help bring a person's resistance from infection from about 74% to 94%, something health officials say is a good indication that it is effective for preventing that virus and 100% effective for preventing death from the virus. meanwhile, the advisory panel is expected to discuss more issues like the possibility of approving a vaccine for children ages 5 to 11. that's one of the many things still on their plate. alex? >> with regard to the pfizer vaccine boosters, though, steven, do you have any idea how popular that has been thus far? >> reporter: yeah, alex. we spoke to a woman who just got her pfizer vaccine booster. she says that many of the people that she's spoken to are doing the same thing. pfizer, of course, is approved for people in certain categories, over 65 or with underlying health conditions.
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i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're following news on several fronts this hour. we got a lot to cover. breaking news out of louisiana. a deadly shooting at a college campus during homecoming events there. a desperate search for a group of americans kidnapped in haiti, a group that included men, women and children as well. we're 48 hours away from a key vote on a move to hold steve bannon in criminal contempt for defying a january 6th committee subpoena. plus, new fallout today from joe manchin's latest demands about the reconciliation bill. also this hour, we are going to focus on the gabby petito case as the search for her boyfriend, brian laundrie, is continuing. i'm going to look at why the cause of death in this case is so important. one columnist's powerful perspective on why the fact that gabby

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