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about books about the holocaust and why the district is now backtracking. high stakes standoff chicago's vaccine mandate for city employees goes into effect this morning. we're waiting to see the impact it will have after the head of the police union warned 50% of the officers could stay home this weekend alone. as we do say good morning, everybody, it is saturday, october 16th. i'm kendis gibson. >> i'm lindsey reiser. take you live to washington, d.c. and the capitol, the sunrise rising above there. we do know that president biden is in d.c. today for an event honoring police officers. >> what is that considered? is that fuchsia? what color is that? >> oh, you're putting me on the spot. >> i don't know my colors. >> lavender. >> okay. >> a little magenta. >> it's beautiful. >> back to some key things happening today, biden is also going to be on the phone with lawmakers because we know he is still negotiating that infrastructure package. we've got a team of reporters and analysts following the latest for us right now. we are going to begin on capitol
hill with the latest from the january 6th committee. now moving very quickly against former trump adviser steve bannon. the panel is set to vote tuesday night to recommend criminal contempt charges against bannon after he refused to comply with congress's subpoena. he's one of four former trump aides to get one of those subpoenas. cash patel and mark meadows are apparently engaging with the committee. their depositions along with the one for dan scavino have been postponed but could still happen. >> this is interesting. president biden is out with his strongest statement yet on all of this. nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill and we begin with you. this is a lengthy process. how confident are committee members about making it through tuesday? >> reporter: good morning, guys, they're very confident. they see this as their only shot to gather all of the facts and find out what the former president knew and did on january 6th and they want to get this look at what he did through
the lens of his closest aides, mark meadows, cash patel, dan scavino and steve bannon. of course who better than bannon to gather all of the facts from and really get the full picture in part because he crafted former president trump's campaign platform. also he was credited with being one of the organizers of the stop the steal rally that led to violence in this capitol i'm standing in. but he's evaded congress before, and members on the house select committee are very familiar with that both in the first impeachment trial of former president trump and also in the russia inquiry. now, pete agular, a member of the house life panel he was on msnbc last night. here's what he said on why it's so important to hear from these guys. >> what we hope to get is the full picture of the pressure campaign that the former president utilized on his own department of justice and how they in turn used it on other states. we think it's very clear that that's exactly what happened. >> reporter: now the question is
will the committee get the full picture? this process of holding bannon in criminal contempt is a lengthy one, and it remains to be seen whether they'll actually hear from bannon or get what they want from him. it's more likely to lead to a punishment, up to a year in prison or hefty fines. how this works, tuesday night the committee will meet to consider this report, a recommendation on referring bannon to criminal contempt of congress. now, once that passes the committee, it will go to the full house for a vote. if that passes, speaker pelosi then has to give it over to biden's justice department, and we'll see how it plays out there. it could be a lengthy process. >> you know, that said, josh, president biden is also weighing in on this, what's he saying? >> reporter: well, lindsey, the white house has really tried to keep its distance from the questions about what should happen to these former trump officials, particularly steve bannon, someone who was such an iconic figure of the trump white house. they don't want to make this about biden versus trump, or biden versus steve bannon and they also think that the former
trump white house had really blurred the lines when it comes to the justice department and the independence that its supposed to have about making prosecutorial decisions. they thought that was a particular weakness of the trump white house, something the biden white house has always tried to take a different approach to. so we've heard the white house emphasizing that those questions really should be left up to the justice department, the attorney general. but then yesterday when president biden was asked about this he seemed to change his tune. take a listen. >> what's your message to people who defy congressional subpoenas on the january 6th committee? >> i hope that the committee goes after them, and holds them accountable. >> should they be prosecuted by the justice department? >> i do, yes. >> that was the farthest that president biden has gone in addressing these questions about these prosecutorial decisions and, in fact, the white house later clarified he still believes it's up to the justice department to make its own independent law enforcement decisions but the other biden
white house move that's really getting a lot of attention here is to not exert executive privilege over the sensitive documents about january 6th from officials sought by congress. there's been some concern that by not exerting privilege, not protecting president trump's belief that those documents shouldn't be handed over, that it could create a precedent in the future for people to get the records from presidents, including president biden. but the white house hoping by making this narrowly about january 6th they can avoid creating that kind of a precedent in the future, lindsey. >> yeah, the white house saying it's way too important in this investigation for them not to hand over those documents. josh lederman, julie tsirkin, thank you. let's bring in paul butler, an msnbc legal analyst, also a professor at georgetown school of law. and also with us is democratic strategist and cofounder of purple strategist, steve mcmahon. paul, starting with you, the committee wants to take action
but this isn't like flipping a switch. could this all get derailed at some point? >> it could but i don't think that's likely because of the stakes. kendis, here's why steve bannon is an essential witness. on december 30th he tells trump, focus all your efforts to overturn the election on january 6th. on january 5th bannon is in washington, d.c., and he says all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. how did he know that? what did trump know? bannon is hiding behind this bogus claim of donald trump's executive privilege. two problems. first, no court has ever said that a former president can claim executive privilege. and second, executive privilege is all about protecting the confidentiality of official presidential deliberations. trump fired bannon back in 2017. he wasn't even working for the federal government during the period around the insurrection. >> that's an important point there, paul. steven, does bannon have to win
this argument over executive privilege, or can he essentially just run out the clock in hopes that republicans take the house next year? >> well, that's a great question. i think he's counting on the fact that he can run out the clock. it's going to be interesting, though, because the republicans are going to have to vote on whether or not congress should have the power to enforce subpoenas. and of course if they do take back the house they're going to want to issue their own subpoenas and have their own investigations and they're going to want witnesses to appear before them and they're going to want to have the contempt power to use against those witnesses that don't cooperate. this is a quagmire. from bannon's perspective, this is probably good for his brand. because remember, he's not in public life. paul's absolutely right about the fact that he's got no right to any of these privileges, or any of these exclusions or exemptions that he's trying to claim but he's got a radio show, a podcast and all those kinds of things where he's making money and his brand is all about standing up to the man.
>> yeah. >> and beating down the democrats. this is probably a moneymaker for him as much as i hate to say it but i do think the democrats will stand up and hold him accountable. >> i do want to get your take on something. because trump and the january 6th insurrection are on the virginia gubernatorial ballot, the republican candidate endorsed by trump, he tried distancing himself from a rally in richmond where attendees pledged to a flag that was used in the insurrection. trump has told supporters that -- unless republicans back his election lies. analysts actually say this is mostly a power play. you agree? do you see it that way? >> do i agree? absolutely. and i think, you know, this is donald trump trying to exert his control and dominion over the republican party and everybody in it and glen youngen is trying to squirm his way out of it because he wants to be trump enough but not too trump.
donald trump lost virginia by ten points. it was a state that was purple but now is pretty blue, reliably democratic. terry call mcauliffe has been ahead in every single poll. so it's probably going to be close. i think it's going to be terry's win. >> steven mcmahon, paul butler, we'll have to leave it there. thank you both so much, fascinating conversation from both of you. we want to get to some breaking news that is coming in from the houston, texas area where police there confirmed that three deputies have been shot early this morning, one of them has died at the hospital. >> the other deputies are either in surgery right now or about to go into surgery, and one was shot in the back. the other in the foot. we just got this video of the scene within the last half hour. law enforcement says this was an ambush. they're calling it evil. >> so this happened around 2:15
eastern time, central time zone at a nightclub there in the city of houston but these were not houston police officers. they were called outside for some kind of disturbance. that's when we're told they were ambushed. one person of interest, we're told, is in custody but police aren't sure if that person is simply a witness or a suspect, so they're still looking into that. and here's what police are saying about the enormous impact of a tragedy like this. >> this is a tough time for precinct four. i'm asking for all our communities' thoughts and prayers for our families. my main concern right now are the families of the three officers involved, and getting them the immediate care and support that they're going to need. we mobilized our victims' assistance and we will be giving them the support, you know, over the next couple of days. >> of course the head of that police force, by the way, is in washington, d.c. right now for that law enforcement conference that you were mentioning that the president will be taking part of. >> wow. >> so waking up to a really
rough time there in houston. once again, three officers shot after an ambush that took place in the north of the city of houston. and one officer has died. >> yeah, our thoughts are with those families. we'll stay on top of that story. still ahead on the mend, this morning former president bill clinton is still in the hospital recovering from an infection in a california hospital. we're going to talk about the treatment and how serious this could have been. plus, moderna and johnson & johnson clearing the first booster shot hurdle. but how soon can people expect to get their next shot? our doctor weighs in. if you're 55 and up, t- mobile has plans built just for you. whether you need a single line or lines for family members, you'll get great value on america's most reliable 5g network.
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getting antibiotics and iv treatment. he's had a number of health issues in the past. you see them there on the screen. in 2004 he had a quadruple by pass heart surgery six weeks left a surgery to deal with fluid and scar tissue. he's dealt with high cholesterol and weight fluctuations for years and underwent a procedure to put in two stents. we have more from dr. john torres. thank you for being here, good morning. we are hearing that what started out as a urological infection turned into a broader infection. given his health record, how serious was this? >> this was serious, and it could have been even more serious but luckily i think they got to it in time and that's the important thing. what happened here, we think, at least from the information we're getting, is he had this urological infection, probably what most people recognize as a uti, a urinary tract infection. if it stays in the urinary tract, the bladder and the kidney, it's easy to treat.
but in some people it moves into the bloodstream. once it moves into the bloodstream it's what we call bacteremia, what we call a blood infection. if it moves to the next step, that's sepsis and sepsis causes organ dysfunction, the kidney, the heart, the brain, the liver, they start having issues working like they should. if that's not treated quickly enough or well enough it turns into septic shock and that's the life threatening condition that this could have advanced to. as you get older it's easier to get through that spectrum of illnesses and advance all the way to that septic shock but luckily he didn't. they got him at the early stage. gave him the iv antibiotics and fluid. and like we've heard the last couple of days he's doing great, up and talking and talking about discharging him today or sometime this weekend. >> we should mention despite the graphic saying coronavirus pandemic this has nothing to do
with covid-19 itself. we're still, however, not sure how bad this was. but could a major infection potentially have put more stress on his heart? >> it definitely could have put more stress on his heart and vice versa. the fact he had heart issues in the past means he's not as healthy as he could be. but the biggest risk factor he had is being over the age of 65. that's the biggest risk factor for getting into that sepsis region which, again, is starting down that area of life threatening illnesses and once somebody gets septic we definitely put them in the hospital. but pet them in intensive care unit. they're usually there quite a long time and trying to get them back to where they're healthy again and discharging. but the other thing is over the next few months they need to keep a close eye on him. >> now to the booster shot, switching topics to covid-19. you have the fda adviser panel voting unanimously to recommend a second johnson & johnson shot
for anyone 18 or older, after they recommended moderna's booster shot for some americans. fda is expected to rule on that in the coming days then the cdc will weigh in. how soon could we actually see people getting those shots? >> you're right, kendis, it's a four-step process. the fda advisory committee, then the fda, which will probably rule this weekend and then the cdc advisory committee steps in, middle of this coming week and then the cdc will make their decision. by guess is by the end of this coming week you'll start getting booster shots in arms. it was an interesting conversation we had, the other ones they've had, moderna and pfizer were fairly cut and dry with the data but johnson & johnson went back and forth as to whether this should be called a booster, additional shot or a two-shot program to begin with with johnson & johnson and at the end of the day let's make sure people are protected and go ahead and vote for that booster shot and more than likely that will happen by the end of next week. >> are we out of this pandemic
at this point? >> i'm sorry, say again. >> are we out of it at this point? >> we're not out of it yet and the concern is we got through this fourth wave. the concern is, we could potentially get into a fifth wave because of upcoming holiday travel and so cdc put out their travel and holiday advisories. they're saying number one point, make sure you're vaccinated and remember for these vaccines, except for johnson & johnson, which is just that single dose. the other ones it takes five to six weeks to get fully vaccinated because it takes a while to get through those programs. >> appreciate you being here with us, dr. john torres. the struggle continues at a texas school district, struggling to deal with diversity and inclusion. one administrator told teachers to balance holocaust books with opposing views. now they're walking back those comments after, of course, igniting a firestorm.
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reason. a texas school district is apologizing after a recording surfaced of an administrator telling teachers if they have a book about the holocaust in their curriculum, they should include a book with an opposing view. >> it's just mind boggling. the superintendent of the school apologized in a statement, and said we recognize there are not two sides of the holocaust. this community, southlake, texas already in the spotlight due to a very public battle over what kids should be taught in the classroom, especially about race and lgbtq issues. >> antonia hylton's reporting has been featured on a podcast, talking to two of the teachers in that district. >> hi, kendis and lindsey. southlake, texas is a community outside of dallas, it's one of the ground zero towns where this national fight over critical race theory and how to talk about tough subjects in school
has gotten its start. the battle has some for books. take a listen. wes fryerson, a parent of two daughters in southlake is uncertain about his kids' education. >> some of the local politics right now i'm not sure that teachers feel supported. >> reporter: the district already in the spotlight after parents clashed over its diversity plan, now facing new pushback over which books are allowed in their libraries, with some teachers placing caution tape over bookshelves, calling the move censorship. it all started when a fourth grade teacher was reprimanded after a parent complained about her having a book ant anti-racism. >> i couldn't believe it. she's the kind of teacher we would hope the district would be trying to attract. >> reporter: the district guidance to vet all books, considered offensive, this coming after texas passed a law banning the teaching of concepts that could make individuals feel guilt or anguish due to their race. nbc news obtained exclusive secretory recorded audio after a
school training. >> we are in the middle of a political mess. >> reporter: the director of curriculum gina petty offers an example for teachers. balance books about the holocaust with an opposing view. >> make sure that if you have a book on the holocaust, that you have one that has an opposing -- that has other perspectives. >> how do you oppose the holocaust? >> reporter: i met with two concerned teachers in southlake, we obscured their identities because they feared speaking out could cost them their jobs. >> i was in such shock when i heard these words. >> we felt this was necessary because we felt like no one was going to listen until a teacher spoke up. >> reporter: and it's not just in southlake. across the country, educators are facing new policies restricting how they can educate students about race from tennessee to pennsylvania. southlake school district told nbc news they were helping
teachers comply with texas law and the district has not and will not mandate books be removed. the district says they have not told teachers to ban books, to completely shut down libraries. what are you seeing? >> that's a lie. it is a flat out lie. like there are -- how could you even make that statement? >> reporter: what do you think is at stake here? >> in books, children see what the world can be and to have that taken away because we're afraid of a few parents getting upset about a word or two, or an idea that they've imagined is in a book is unthinkable. >> reporter: wes fryerson says his daughters see what's happening. >> unfortunately for kids the age of mine, i think the last -- as they become aware of the world i think they just see the world as very highly politicized. >> reporter: but parents hope that politics find a way out of public schools. teachers say they're speaking up because books are how students often learn about the world and
build empathy for other people and they say that what's at stake here is the quality of everyone's education. they say they're going to keep speaking up in the coming days and weeks. >> our thanks to antonia hylton for getting us started with all of this. we're happy to have antonia's reporting partner on the southlake podcast. mike hicksenbauh. he got the initial tip that led to this firestorm. good job for you. your investigation started with one piece of video of students chanting a racial epitaph. many parents pushed back in the meantime, and now there's new leadership at the school board. what does that tell you, say that it's taken this long, and still there's some cultural clashes taking place in this suburb of dallas? >> well, i think what that tells you is that these issues that we're seeing in school board meetings across the country this year with parents clashing with
school boards over concepts about racism and lgbtq issues under the umbrella, phrase of critical race theory, this didn't come out of nowhere. these issues in southlake have been building for years. and you can trace it back to, you know, charlottesville, the racial awakening that's happening across the country during the trump years. certainly after george floyd and what you see in this mostly white but diversifying suburban community is an effort to try to address these issues. the same kind of efforts that were happening across the country, especially in 2020 after george floyd with a plan to try to address racist bullying, to try to address curriculum that, you know, centered the perspective of white students and maybe not other cultures. and so now, since then, there's been a backlash. but that began in late 2020, into early this year, and it's just building and building and
we've been tracing this story, that is a national story, in this one community that got a head start. >> yeah. >> and it kind of has offered us a preview of what's to come in other places. >> so, mike, that said, what was your reaction when you heard this latest, not only the fact that this administrator is saying you have to show an opposing view, but that it was in southlake, the very place that you've spent so much time investigating? >> you know, when i received a copy of that audio last week, right after it happened, i received a copy of that audio, and it was sent to me around the same time that the school district had sent out a note denying that those trainings were really happening. but when i heard the clip -- >> wow. >> i was standing in my kitchen and i actually -- i was like, what? i even called my wife, can you listen to this? i want to make sure i'm not overreacting but i think that if the world hears this audio, that
there's going to be incredible reaction to this because what i think i hear is an administrator telling teachers that they should have books in their classroom that provide an opposing perspective on the holocaust. which is what the audio shows and this is part of this bigger reaction that states have passed laws, districts have passed policies, saying that if you are teaching about controversial subjects, and this is all tied to the critical race theory blowback that you need to have balanced perspectives. this is how this administrator interpreted that, and directly instructed her teachers, and it told me, like, this is where we're -- where we've gone. this is how far we've come and this is where this is heading. >> mike, i'm curious. they've stepped back those comments about there being two sides to the holocaust but i wonder if they're teaching other things that are controversial. are there two sides to -- >> there are recordings for.
>> lgbtq rights, or two sides to slavery, what are they teaching people here? >> listen, i -- when i received -- after i received that audio, i sent the district and the administrator written detailed information about what the audio showed and offered them a chance to amend or walk back that position. one of the questions we asked was, is it the district's policy that teachers should provide opposing perspectives on the holocaust? in their classroom libraries? what about other contentious issues, should there be two perspectives on slavery? should there be two perspectives on racism? and the response was simply, we are trying to help teachers comply with new state requirements, period. >> mike hixenbaugh, we know you and antonia will stay on top of it. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> you can listen for free
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democracy. police are labeling it a terror attack and officials say a 25-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder. amess's death, by the way, comes five years after another british member of parliament, jo cox was killed by a far right terrorist just before the brexit referendum in 2016. correspondent raf sanchez has the latest. the attack is sparking new concerns for politicians. >> reporter: lindsey, that's right. sparking a real debate how to keep members of parliament safe without cutting them off from the people they represent. a little bit like the debate in washington about the steel fence surrounding the capitol after january 6th. now, london's metropolitan police are declaring sir david's killing a terrorist incident, saying the attacker may have been motivated by a radical islamist ideology. they have a 25-year-old british man in custody. they haven't yet released his name, nor has he formally been
charged. now sir david was beloved across the political spectrum in the uk today, and this morning you saw prime minister boris johnson and the leader of the opposition laying flowers at a memorial outside the site where he was killed. the prime minister leading a wave of tributes last night. take a listen to what he had to say. >> above all he was one of the kindest, nicest, most gentle people in politics. and he also had an outstanding record of passing laws to help the most vulnerable, whether they're people who were suffering from endometriosis, passing laws to end cruelty to animals, or doing a huge amount to reduce the fuel poverties suffered by people up and down the country. >> reporter: one of the most urgent questions does there need to be either more security or
more screening before members of the parliament go into these meetings with the public. guys? >> certainly a question out there. raf sanchez, thanks so much. michigan's water crisis is making waves yet again. a lakefront town is seeing levels of lead in its water worse than the first water crisis in flint. well now a major effort to get people clean drinking water. nbc news correspondent megan fitzgerald with the story. >> top officials in michigan are taking action in benton harbor. >> we are bringing a whole of government approach to ensuring that the residents of benton harbor have safe drinking water. >> reporter: this comes after elevated lead levels have been found in the water for three years, reporting showing the highest readings nearly 60 times the state limit. the state now stepping up the response in the water crisis, promising to fix all lead service lines in 18 months, and ramping up the water distribution that started two weeks ago. >> more than 20 semitrucks
totaling 35,000 cases of water are scheduled for delivery to benton harbor every week until this is no longer necessary. >> reporter: residents frustrated with the response. >> they're stepping in but they're stepping in a little too slow and a little too late. >> reporter: frank jones has nieces and nephews under the age of 10 and worries about their lead exposure. >> everybody is concerned about this water. they don't know if the kids are sick or not, they're not doctors. >> reporter: the state says it's known about elevated lead levels and that residents had access to the information but many say enough wasn't done to warn them of the dangers. are you upset? >> yes, i'm very upset. >> reporter: michigan's department of health and human services, also stepping in, offering blood testing for every child to monitor lead levels and providing access to medical care. >> it's always concerning whenever we're talking about children being exposed to environmental hazards that could potentially have long-term ramifications on their development. >> thanks to megan fitzgerald in
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the fate of many chicago police officers is up in the air this morning, up to half of the force could be facing unpaid leave after missing yesterday's city mandated deadline to report their vaccine status. the illinois governor now says he's prepared to deploy the national guard in the case of a police shortage. throughout the standoff chicago police union president john katanzara has been the loudest anti-mandate voice speaking out against the requirement. it's safe to say the city of chicago will have a police force at 50% or less for this weekend
coming up. >> our membership spoke loudly, and i can tell you they are absolutely, even the ones that were vaccinated, against a mandated vaccination program. >> and in a new twist a cook county judge issued a temporary restraining order against catanzara banning him from publicly encouraging members to not comply with the mandate. joining us right now is political reporter with chicago's pbs station heather sharrone. what happens today. are officers going to show up to work and half their colleagues aren't going to be there? >> well the city is not going to start disciplining officers for not entering their vaccine information into the portal, at least until tuesday. that's what city attorney celia mezza told the judge yesterday before she stopped john catanzara, the president of the fop for making additional comments about the city's vaccine mandate. we won't know until tuesday how many officers, how many city
employees across the city have agreed to tell the city their vaccination status and if they're not vaccinated, have agreed to get tested twice a week. so this is all very much up in the air. >> wow, all right, well, you know, should we expect, here, a potentially potentially massive in the city of police when we have a rise of violent crime? what does this mean for safety in the city? >> so, i think it is important to note that chicago is relatively well vaccinated. roughly more than 70% of chicago adults have gotten at least one dose of the vaccine. if that is reflected in the police department, it is not 50%. the reason they took the fop to court yesterday is this called from the union president to defy the order which was going to push down that number. it was going to put the city in a situation where they had large number of officers being
insubordinate. we heard from mayor lori lightfoot that it was not acceptable. she cast this as a health and safety issue that officers often are forced to interact with chicagoans and firefighters, however you want to do it, and they have to be vaccinated so they don't spread covid. chicago has emerged from the delta variant. we have seen the pandemic turn on a dime. i think the mayor is concerned as people start to go inside and it is about to get really cold in chicago, the virus will spread, perhaps driven by people who have so far either declined or refused to get the vaccine. >> you know, according to the officer down memorial page, covid is the top cause for police deaths in the last two years. with 500 officers killed. earlier this week, we mentioned
the police union president urging to defy the mandate. >> if somebody orders you to go into the portal, refuse. document on body cam. we will keep fighting the mandate and dictatorship. >> now that he has been silenced until a hearing toward the end of the month on october 25th, do you think more cops will comply? >> so, it is hard to say. you know, these are high paying jobs and i know many police officers who take great pride in what they do. if they defy this vaccine mandate, they could face discipline up to and including separation which is what we heard from first deputy eric carter yesterday. it is unclear what people are going to do and this has really been the culmination of two years of tension with the mayor and police union. they have been at odds from the very beginning of her time in
office and it took nearly four years for the city to reach a new contract with the fop and this is all happening at a time when officers are getting significant amounts of back pay because they didn't get pay raises for the past four years and due for pay raises going forward. there are almost 1,000 vacancies in the department. there is a lot of concern of short staffing. >> heather, thank you for joining us. hollywood. all shiny and glamorous. it can go dark. not in front of the screen,prod. they are bracing for a big strike that could come monday. the coming attractions next. the coming attractions next. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪
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so if you think "squid game" is a nail biter of the show, there is a more tense problems behind-the-scenes. workers are threatening to walk off in hollywood because of aggravated work conditions. >> what will we do? >> talk to each other. >> this is part of the showdown with employees and employers. it is emerged over various industries. here is nbc's erin mclaughlin. >> reporter: hollywood on the brink of calling cut with 60,000 behind the scenes workers potentially walking offset
halting the live shows. >> i'm excited. >> reporter: the union alleges the streaming and pandemic elevated working conditions. bringing those behind the scenes to the breaking point. creating what it says are excessive work are hoare hours unreasonable rest. >> to expect this to continue working no matter the conditions or how long. >> reporter: now hollywood heavyweights are speaking out. >> it is staggering. the amount of abuse that i've seen. no one gives a [ bleep ]. i have seen a lot of that. >> reporter: the alliance of motion pictures say it deeply values the crew members and is committed to reaching a deal. the alliance is univeuniversal. anger overworkers rights is hardly confined to hollywood.
from auto and agriculture to health care workers. it is all part of the growing nationwide showdown with employees and employers. sparked in part, experts say, by the pandemic. now spilling on to the silver screen. if ongoing negotiations fall through, thousands in hollywood are set to join the picket lines monday. >> erin, thank you. i have puzzles leftover from the pandemic. >> you can crochet or whatever it is you do. >> i knit. >> said with attitude. this has been in the talks for some time. it seems as if barring anything, come monday, production will stop. they have a lot in the pipe. >> we'll keep an eye on it. thank you for watching. i'm lindsey reiser. >> i'm kendis gibson. we are back tomorrow morning at 6:00 unless joe decides he is going on strike. velshi starts now.
today on "velshi." the january 6th committee is speeding ahead. we will go ahead with the twice impeached the inner circle is talking and counting down to criminal referral. as they fight it out, joe biden escalates his future with bernie sanders. i'll ask a negotiator who pledges to get it done and how they will do that. the state law which has teachers punished for books in the classrooms. this is not a dispatch from a distopian novel. the story behind the huge fund that might be coming after your local newspaper. "velshi" starts now. good morning. today is saturday, octer