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york. keep in touch there. i'll see you tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. "the reidout" starts now. >> you're headed to nyc to talk to one of the most interesting column most. >> amen. >> have a great evening. >> we begin "the reidout" with the gathering storm. anti d democratic forces fueled by the big lie and enabled by today's republican party are gaining ground and at an alarming pace. from the lowest level state offices to the halls of the united states senate republicans have abandoned whatever principles they once claimed to have and have entirely capitulated to donald trump and his delusions of a stolen election. that's it. that's the party now. and trump is marshalling those forces to seize power in 2024 whether you, the voters elect him or not. it's clear this is a five-alarm fire. it has been for months and those
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who choose to ignore it are putting this country in jeopardy. there just is no nicer way to put it. just yesterday, the second highest ranking republican in the house of representatives refused three times to acknowledge the simple and undeniable fact joe biden won the election. here is house minority whip steve scalise of louisiana. >> do you think the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump? >> chris, i've been clear from the beginning. if you look at a number of states, they didn't follow the state passed laws -- >> so you think the election was stolen? >> what i said is there are states that didn't follow their legislatively set rules. >> last time, i promise, do you think the election was stolen or not? >> it's states that did not follow the laws set, which the constitution says they're supposed to follow. >> i should remind you that guy is in leadership in the first place despite having compared himself to david duke without
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the baggage. it's been going in a trump direction for a minute. steve scalise is a leadership. there he is gulp, gulp, gulping that kool-aid down. fellow republicans have fallen in line and chanted the big lie trump supposedly won. as steve bannon writes for msnbc, the line between the gop fringe on capitol hill and the gop leadership is blurred to the point where it hardly exists at all. the big lie is so deeply entrenched in republican orthodox. they're poised to steal elections they don't win and that's prompted warnings from neo conservative scholar to libertarian comedian bill mar to chris krebs at the department of homeland security.
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he warned yesterday our democracy is in a death spiral. >> what we're seeing is congressmen schiff mention this constant erosion of confidence in the electoral system and it is ultimately anti democratic and we're frankly in a death spiral as i see it and two years, four years at the ballot box isn't good enough and there has to be other accountability measures for those that will continue to proliferate these lies. >> that's what makes the committee investigating january 6th so critical. and it's why the question of whether attorney general merrick garland will enforce and trying to defy the committee is a life or death question for our democracy. joining me is john brennan and olivia troy, former senior aid of the white house coronavirus task force and director of the accountability project. dr. brennan, i suffer from
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insomnia and one of the things that's made it worse is i feel like, you know, the people are sort of going about their lives and not facing the fact that our democracy really is falling into a deep sink hole, and i don't know if you having professionally had to look at countries that were spiraling out of if you see those countries lining up the way we lined down. >> i do, joy. over the last several years, i think we've exhausted all the words and phrases in the english language to describe the moral bankruptcy including of the course donald trump. i think each day we have more evidence of that bankruptcy and it's not just their rhetoric that we should be concerned about. i think they really are laying the groundwork for the elections in 2022 and 2024.
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their whole party platform these days is based on dishonesty. they hope with dishonest way, they can sway them. the fact steve scalise continues to refuse to acknowledge joe biden is the president of the united states shows just how much the republican party devolved at this point, the leadership and with rare exceptions a few others, all the republicans seem to be lining up behind donald trump and the fact that senator grassly continues to rubble at the feet of donald trump because he believes he needs the endorsement to win reelection shows the length these individuals will go. they don't care about integrity. >> olivia troy, that was described where the people who actually do know better and understand things realize that
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the looneys are taking over so you have two choices. when you see, you know, the factious take over, you join them or fight them. the neo conservative sort of wing of the party that spent its entire kind of adult life like looking at fixating on spreading democracy, they're like oh, crap, we have to spread democracy here. they are in the camp of saying i see this and recognize it. the rest are joining up. steve scalise in louisiana, the quote about him being david duke appeals to voters i'd like to appeal to the same white voters. that's what he was trying to say. instead of saying no, david duke is just absolutely wrong, he said this will work for me. i'll just take out the parts explicitly dead. let me play former -- this is
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fiona hill. >> this is what you think storming during the french revolution. storming the winter palace during the russian revolution that general milley was eluding to. we see many historical episodes where there is violence and people discount it and think there is just a passing occurrence, vice president pence has been down playing it, even though he would have been targeted. he was targeted. they wanted to lynch him. then people sweeping this away saying nothing happened here and the next time around you get the real thing. this was in effect a dress rehearsal for something that could be happening near term in 2022, 2024. >> i mean, do you agree with that olivia. that is what bill maher described, that is the future. >> i'm incredibly concerned at all of these people instead of taking a stand and instead of telling the truth, which they need to to their own supporters because that is how we'll survive as a democracy and
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country in terms of coming together and actually being honest with one another and getting back to true, i would say, governance and policy and politics on the republican side. that is how we need to come together to move forward. i think their all correct in saying this and concern for it. we've got all these people who instead of taking a stand for the truth are standing by and enabling what's happening here because it's the narrative of convenience for them. that's where we are. the big lie is the republican party's platform. there is no policies. they're not really pushing anything. they're lying and repeatedly and it's a platform for the past and a big lie for 2020 but certainly not in the past anymore. it's the big lie in the midterm elections of what will happen. it will be the big lie going forward and the big lie will be moving on and just like he said, it's the on going lane of the groundwork to put forth efforts in an attempt to overturn elections in the future that aren't conveient for them and all of these people decided they're okay with it because it keeps them in power in their
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eyes. >> you know, john brennan, you know, the elephant in the room -- donald trump at this point, jonathan karl has a book out that he was intrigued by the idea nest thermostats -- their engaging wild things, anything to say anything except donald trump lost the election and the elephant in the room is that the cause of the discontent on the right is that people who look like me chose biden and got their way. people who are brown and black are a rising majority and they because of the numbers, the 80/20 rule, you need 80% of people of color and you can get by of 40% of voters and democrats win. that's a fact. they cannot stand that reality so what they're saying to their voters that are mainly white working class voters is don't worry. we'll make sure those people can't vote. we'll believe any theory -- aliens came down and made donald
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trump lose. anything but you lost but they don't want to face those voters and say to them y'all can't always win elections. that's what this comes down to, no? >> and they know the demographic and political trends are against them. they continue to exploit the fears of individuals in the country by over stating the concerns that a lot of people have about what is happening in this country in terms of migration and economic issues and other things, but i must say that we're no longer the world's role model for democracy i think. given the authoritarian tendency, it's quite clear that the republicans i think are trying to resort to any tactic possible and i am concerned that what we saw on january 6th could that be rereplicated in the future? are there individuals who are going to try to stoke those fears to such an extent some people will try to take action into their own hands? in interviews over the weekend, i heard individuals say they see a civil war coming.
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the cost of this fear they have that they're going to again resort to any tactic whatsoever in order to hold on to what i think is their failing ability to hold on to power. >> and then it's push. right? they're saying they're going to reinstall donald trump. this is what the right olivia is saying they will reinstall donald trump in power by any means necessary. you had people on that mall attacking the capitol with military training who were active police officers or former police officers. so it wasn't all just, you know, real estate, you know, agents with nothing better to do. some of these people had tactical training and i think what is terrifying to me is that they have not wrapped into this wild orthodox and anti vax and anti mask, which also there are some people with the same training part of that and so i wonder if you worry that just as a matter of homeland security
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trying to deal with 2022 and 2024 whether we have any preparation whatsoever for what we're facing because it could be what we saw on january 6th on steroids. >> that's absolutely correct. i think that this is continuing to gain traction. these threats continue to increase and are on the rise. these grievances continue to be on the rise and these elected leaders that are actually supporting these types of endeavors are creating this prime opportunity for violence, for political violence and they're encouraging the use of violence to take a stand when things don't go their way. they encouraged it on january 6th and continue to encourage it today. we're in a very dangerous moment for our country right now that we'll continue going forward and i think we should absolutely be looking at the homeland security enterprise, which is why the january 6th committee's work is critically important so we don't repeat the same mistakes of the past and understand what failed
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that day. what led to that so going forward we're more vigilant and the homeland community is more prepared at the state and local level to prepare to deal with this and deal with it within their own ranks because we know it's there. these are our neighbors. these are our people that we know who have fallen for this whole sham and charade and it's so dangerous because it's really hard when you have this scenario to really counter it with truth and facts. you and i, the three of us are living in the real world, the reality. we're looking at it from rational perspectives. the messages i get from the people that love to hate me are looking at it from a different reality and watching echo chambers. they're watching leaders who are telling them these things and they're watching the narratives on right wing pundits coming together and it's a recipe for dangerous disaster. >> and john brennan, very quickly, have you ever observed
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a society in this state of breakdown that fixing itself without some pretty serious action and if so, what is that action? what can be done to reverse it? >> well, i think in the past sometimes there could be a galvanizing event where it's going to unite individuals against the common threat. unfortunately, the threats we see right now are within our borders or among us and i think it's really going to be difficult over the next several years. i think we're in for several years of real difficult political waters here that really are going to really test the medal of our democracy and this is the time for americans to try to push past the disinformation and try to return to the principles of this great democracy in this republic of ours? >> god's ear, john brennan and olivia troy. scary is caring. thank you for coming. it's scary but we got to deal with it. the right wing madness, the trump candidate for governor goes on full anti-vaxxer even as
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he lies in a hospital bed with covid pneumonia. young black children in tennessee locked up for one of the biggest rock stars of the '70s is off key and before we go to break, i want to wish everybody a happy indigenous people's day and happy national coming out day. joe biden is the first person to recognize indigenous people day. we recognize their resilience and strength and the i'm measurable positive impact they have made on american society and the first openly lgbt senator tweeted happy national coming out day. come out, speak out and engage if it was your right to do so because it is. do you. "the reidout" continues after this. iff clothes can feel rough on your skin? for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer,
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take a look at texas. on average, more than 270 people in texas died from covid every day in the last month. women have less rights than men in effect after a federal appeals court reversed a temporary pause and certain counties are banning books in school because they touch on race and that makes some white parents uncomfortable. you might be familiar with the practice. it's called censorship. the state's governor issued an order telling private businesses, they, these private businesses may not issue vaccine mandates. what happened to government staying out of the way? most of this is brought to you by governor greg abbott, up for reelection and wants to out do the hard right wing nuts. how about this man who is in a hospital tweeting with covid pneumonia. >> i can attest after this
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experience i'm more dedicated to fighting against vaccine mandates instead of enriching the pockets of pharma and governor of texas i'll crush, crush anyone forcing vaccine mandates on the lone star state. our bodies are our last sanctuary of liberty and freedom. i'll defend that for everyone. just not for women, of course. joining me now, jason johnson and host of "a word with jason johnson" and former spokesperson handling voting rights for the doj. last i checked monoclonal antibodies are even more expensive than all the other treatments for covid-19 meaning allen west is actually enriching big pharma by choosing those and lots of big donors to the republican party. your thoughts on the tweets from his covid bedside or covid bed?
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>> this isn't a race to the right. this is a race to the bottom and that's exactly what is happening with the gubernatorial primary in texas right now. you have not only allen west who is literally hospitalized as we speak because he's not vaccinated and he had low oxygen leveling. you have another person in the primary that put out a press release today claiming victory for moving abbott to the right and having a ban on vaccine mandate. that's what we're talking about. this race just shows how important governor's races are and especially in the state of texas whether it is, you know, ensuring that people don't get vaccinated because that's what they want to do or whether it's women's rights or whether it's even keeping your electricity on for that matter in texas. this is a race to the bottom and that's exactly what this primary is. >> i mean, jason, basically in texas the grid is private but
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private businesses can't have mask -- vaccine mandates if they want to and the guy that wants to replace governor abbott who is so far to the right he's basically to the right is the guy i remember him from florida. he's the guy that mock executed an iraqi policeman and got in trouble in the army. here is his quotes on barack obama. if you're here to stand up, get your musket, fix your bayonet and charge. he said that black people are better off during segregation because they had better education opportunities and called islam not a religion. your thoughts? >> you know, look, speaking of educational opportunities. one of the other crimes we've seen in the state of texas is this book banning they have where they're chasing after books and don't want kids to learn about critical race theory. i have jeffrey craft behind me and he writes great books. allen west, he is the guy for the republican party right now. they want that same kind of -- they want that sort of all
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natural flavor racism but blackface with a 1990s flat top haircut, that's what they want and can get out allen west. if he can actually get out of bed and realize he can catch covid again because the imaginary antiboies can't keep him safe, many republicans in that state may want him. here is the problem. the state of texas is not nearly as republican as the idiots they seem to want to have running. 95% of the growth in that state has have been coming from minoriies and people from other more liberal progressive places moving into the state and at some point the dam will break and you'll see politicians that reflect the people that live there and not just moneyed interest that are paying their way. >> jason has a good point. one of the things republicans are doing and trying to find as many black and brown and asian-american people that spout those same ideologies. in texas saying we'll dress this up in sort of a black person and say see, we're not racist.
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look at us. we have allen west but allen west is the guy who says segregation was a better time for black people. right? so it's like ironic black people but that is their strategy and i wonder if in a party that is sort of showing itself to be terrified of learning about dr. king because it might make white students feel uncomfortable to talk about racism, whether or not he might be a threat to abbott. maybe far right democrats are saying i prefer my racist ideas in the form of allen west. >> well, abbott is feeling the threat right now. i think that you're having him take pretty hard right stranss -- stances and looking into the last election. he can't afford donald trump out there opposing him. he is scared about the right. at the same time, he's also scared about black and brown people voting. yes, the party in texas might lift off a black candidate where they can but if they weren't
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scared about black and brown people voting in texas then they wouldn't have pass the the voter suppression law to make it harder. yes, and fullactually, they're passing redistricting to figure out how do we silence black and brown people? that's exactly what is happening now. if you want to talk about a party that is -- tries to property up their black candidates, i'd also point you to a party that's trying to silence them. >> well, so the thing is, jason, the gerrymandering won't do anything about the state race. they will try to smash the votes in harris county and try to squash the non-white vote but i wonder if in the end, this game between turning the state into the hand mads tail state and going after black and brown votering with aggression, the lieutenant governor blaming black people for covid outbreaks. the accumulation winds up biting them in the butt if they wind up with allen west on the ticket instead of the current governor.
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>> well, here is also the irony of this joy. for all of these sort of lack of election integrity and concerns that texas politicians have, if i was allen west, i wouldn't trust that the current system will be a fair primary. why isn't he worried about that? why isn't he worried abbott will cheat and manipulate the vote? if there was any integrity to this and not a chase to find a way to suppress black voters, they would be questioning the system of their primary. i don't know, joy, if i think this will bite the republican party in the butt because this will depend on what happens in washington d.c. the police the democrats in that state had to flee to. nobody in texas will face consequences for voter suppression. >> that's a good point. look at the past here. so, you know, the brothers said to me in 2012 eventually this state will be a purple state. it's moving in that direction
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but to the point jason just made, democrats in d.c. have a lot to do with whether or not that vote can be galvanized. maria, teresa kumar says there need to be issues that are patble. democrats are stalled pretty much in d.c. and yet, look at this state. ted cruz only beat beto o'rourke by less than two points last time when he ran. the current governor abbott did better against valdez but will not run against a woman this time. so i wonder if texas democrats are frustrated that the d.c. situation is not helping them to motivate more voters to try to overcome these voter suppress tactics? >> i think texas democrats are frustrated and not just frustrated because of the motivation because there are a lot of things that motivate voters. the pandemic, the economy, health care, all the issues front and center nationally are
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front and center in texas but i think they're frustrated more because they're asking for basic protection in voting rights. if republicans try to gain the system time and time again, it will be harder for a democrat to win in texas and they know. they're worried about the numbers between beto o'rourke and ted cruz. they're even more worried about beto o'rourke potentially running against greg abbott right now. so they will do everything they can in order to silence voters in the midterm election and in the presidential election because they're worried that it's slipping out of their hands and yes, democrats are frustrated but i think they're frustrated with the lack of progress on voting rights, which are basic protections for people in texas. >> that and women's rights. texas is the microcosm for all bad things republicans are trying to do. let's see how it goes next year. thank you both very much. up next, the fate of the democratic party as we were just discussing and the country is at
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and so we're just sick of it and we're not going to take it anymore. i see a civil war coming. i do. i see civil war coming. >> a glimpse of the rally of the disgraced twice impeached president over the weekend. if that's not the dimly lit future you want and you don't want her advocates at charge, the question becomes is the imperfect but democratic party left built to stop it? because with little more than a
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year until the midterms, there is one thing most observers agree on. the democrats are in trouble but is it as former obama data guru david shore argues because of the way politics are structured to favor white rural communities in a second and democrats are not connecting with the voters who they need in the communities or is it as "new york times" columnist charles blow suggestions that the democrats are not getting enough done with the power they currently hold in the white house and both chambers of commerce? because the reality is, we don't have another party that's built to save our democracy. the republicans are gone. if democrats don't have it in them to do it, that woman calling for civil war, she could be our future. joining me now is rachel, political scientist and co-founder of strike pact, and cornell belcher. i'll read you a couple bits and ask you to tell me where you fall on which of these two people are correct. here is what charles blow wrote in his "new york times" column about 2022.
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he says democrats need to do more. they will have no choice but to pass something no matter the size because the consequences of failure is suicide. democrats must go into the midterms with something they can call a win with something that at least inches closer to the transformations that biden has promised. on the other end, you have ezra klein and his data which he explains is democrats are on the edge of an electoral abyss to win states that lean republican and internalize they are not like and understand the voters they need to win over. i'll start with you cornell. actually, ladies first. i'll let rachel go first. which side do you fall on? is it that democrats need to find ways to appeal to people in a more sort of white working class conservativish world or do they need to get more stuff done? >> well, i think what i would say if i was able to talk with david is to say okay, well, then
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how did democrats exactly win over white working class voters if the main motivating, you know, factor other than partisanship that is motivaing them is white racial resentment. it is very clear. it's 2016. there's been a lot of research since to kind of get in controlled models what matters to voters. is it messages, issues, bread and butter? economics? no it's fear about winning and minorities taking over their, you know -- think about it. this is a group of people that had power in perpetuity and now that power is not only being challenged. it is being decreased. we celebrate that but in certain segments of the country, especially when you have advertising and messaging and
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propaganda news network that is stoking those things, making them focussing on dr. seuss and not on the covid relief money they got, right? you can't win back working white class voters. there are tons of working class voters that are not right that we could improve out reach to and we hit them -- we have to understand where these voters are. they're not us. they're not following politics so, you know, no one is telling them the republican party is bad for their personal pocketbook they will continue to be under the false assumption that voting for republican helps them. >> so cornell, to that point. thank down. that's one of the reasons i wanted rachel to go first. i wanted to ask you a similar question. democrats are obsessed with the middle class and when they say the middle class, they mean white middle class, white suburban voters. how do we make them like us?
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at the end of the day isn't rachel correct the base, base of the party is also unsatisfied but it's more because they're not getting what democrats promised? no? where do you fall on that trajectory between sure and charles blow? >> my head is about to explode about this. what would barack obama, would we have barack obama if we listened to that thinking and truth of the matter is democrats have not won the working white voter in decades and the trim line is moving in the opposite direction. where we're doing better is among better educated white voters, college educated white voters you saw from the past election, biden was able to do what hillary clinton nor barack obama was able to do in winning
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white college women. that's where the new majorities are in fact built but to your point. there is the theory about winning aunts and uncles and not letting them go. the truth of the matter is if you look at the majority that both obama win and biden won, they look at diverse people and better educated americans showing they're in fact majority. that's where the majority is. at the same tame, i don't like the idea of pitting one against the other. look at the biden agenda overwhelmingly helps working class white people, working class americans, the middle group of americans but to the
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early point, tribalism is so strong now. are they putting pocketbook considerations or transactional considerations above higher interests above the trouble? no, when have americans ever done that? never. >> right. >> they've never done it. so i kind of reject that idea but also, you know, to blow's point, democrats need to put up points and score points but i'll remind you, joy, that in 20 -- the early part of obama administration, we passed -- they passed an awful lot of legislation to pull america back from the brink of an economic catastrophe and then they got their tails whipped in 2010 partially because quite frankly what we're seeing now is the base of the party is not energized and republicans do a good job of energizing their base while democrats are afraid to energize the base because they're afraid of this myth swing voter that might be turned
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off. >> let me very quickly put up for everybody so you guys understand the democrats had the majority of state legislatures as recently as 2009. they started to lose it in that 2010 armageddon midterm and it never came back. democrats are not focused on the state elections enough. very quick lightning round starting with you cornell. are you concerned about democratic turnout in 2022? yes or no? >> if we don't get justice and policing and we don't get voting rights turned around, yes, i'm very afraid those african americans won't turn out. >> are you concerned about turnout in 2022? >> yeah, i'll tell you this. the republican party understands how transactional the democratic electret is. they're going to deprive us of the victories there is no way the republican party will do anything to help or really just, you know, not put out every stop to keep the things that cornell wants done from getting done
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because even if the democratic consultant class doesn't yet understand turnout, the republican party does. >> they -- like al qaeda, they think long term. rachel, cornell, thank you very much. up next on the "reidout," a report uncovers for years a tennessee county, get this, has been arresting and imprisoning black children as young as 7 years old for a crime that does not exist. one of the reporters that broke that story joins me next. ry joit
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so this next story is something everyone should hear about something that should never take place. according to a scathing propublica report a county was profiting off the jailing of black children as young as 7 years old for a crime that doesn't exist and they have been doing it for more than a decade.
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they use a filter system to give jailers discretion for jailers arrested sent to the juvenile defense center. 11 black children were arrested for witnessing, not participating but witnessing a fight between other children. just seeing it happen. which by the way, is not a crime. at least six of the kids were handcuffed, four of them at their elementary school. one girl fell to her knees as she was arrested. another threw up. police handcuffed the youngest, an 8-year-old with pigtails. four of the 11 kids spent time in jail. overseeing this was the county's only juvenile court judge who described her work as god's mission to discipline children. somehow she still holds the job today. just to understand how bad it was under the judge's control. the statewide average to juvenile court was 5%. in rutherford county was 5%. one of the co-author of the
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piece joins me now. i think everyone who saw this story rightful across twitter was shocked and appalled. thank you for coming and talking to us about it. how on earth this would happen where children are being routinely locked up by this judge? >> yeah, this is a story about one county with a staggering history of detaining children. like you said it all resulted from a mass arrest of 11 kids. it happened through a couple different mechanisms. the first part was decoloration, by the judge to law enforcement that every child arrested even more minor violations like truency was step one. step two, once they were at the juvenile detention center, this filter system as you described was applied to the children and what it meant was that any child could be kept if they were deemed a true threat.
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that's direct quotes. true threat. however, in the manuel, there was no definition for what a true threat it. it was up to interpretation and the officer who was seeing that child before them to decide did they think they were a true threat and threat. now obviously that's incredibly problematic. >> seems to me the people deemed a true threat were black children, especially black boys. >> well, the thing about juvenile court is to difficult to report on is that it's all sealed. we don't know the records for children but we do know that yes, as this example showed with the 11 children, they were all black. talking with lawyers who have represented children in her courtroom, overwhelmingly these are black and brown children. >> there were lawsuits attached to this. what happened with these families? particularly the families of these little kids? >> yes. so all 11 children sued in
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federal court. they had settlements. in many of those instance, there was money earmarked for counseling. one of the young girls, ej, had a few months of counseling. after this happened, she had terrible dreams. scared to go back the school. you're a child, you're scared someone's going come in and arrest you at any point. you don't know. that was one aspect of it. the other aspect that is really important for this story is that because of this culmination of lawsuits and because a handful of them were taken by a group of three lawyers themselves, over the course of the year, seven lawsuits materialized around this juvenile court and the juvenile detention center. what that does is it cracks the door open into this secretive world of juvenile court and that's really the basis for this story that we told. we obviously found other aspects of oversight mechanisms that were completely woefully
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inadequate and didn't happen, but these cluster of lawsuits allowed us to look into this world that is usually shut off from the public. in order to protect children. >> and this was a money making scheme in this county, my understanding. is they made quite a bit of money doing it and this judge, how in the world is she still seated and what is becoming of her? >> yeah, the money aspect is interesting. it is a little decoupled from the children at the top of the story. the fact of the matter is that they get 17 -- $175 a day for every child they detain. one of the positive things about the lawsuit that came before the federal court, one of these many lawsuits, opt that filter system, so it really made them curtail who they could take into their detention facility from their own county, but what that did was kind of allowed them to shift gears and market
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themselves to other counties around tennessee and that was actually, yeah. yeah. so they started making money off of other children. so your question about the judge. judges in tennessee are very hard to remove. really it's up to the voters. she is an elected official and it is up to the voters to decide they want another judge. one of the things that's really unique about this story is that she is the only juvenile court judge that this county has ever had. so no one else has ever held this position. >> vote, vote, vote. and this is why you have to vote, to get rid of people like this judge. i thank you so much for being here and sharing this horrific story for us. tonight's absolute worse. as if that wasn't worst enough, another celebrity has been spouting anti-vaxx rhetoric and weirdly, the right is not telling him to shut up. be right back. ing him to shut up be right back. - had enough? - no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis.
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morrison's four antilockdown concerts last year. blaming pro-vaccine propaganda. clapton then released an anti-vaxx song, this has got to stop, and went on tour in red america where he took a picture with texas governor, greg abbott. what really stands out about white anti-vaxxers is that they act like they freedom had been taken from them. like jim brewer, who blamed the cancellation of his shows on segregation and declared quote, i'm not going to be enslaved to the system. yeah, because getting a free vaccine is exactly like slavery. clapton is no different. he claimed vaccine mandates are discrimination. the lyrics include do you want
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to be a free man or you want to be a slave. as rolling stone puts it, he used a derogatory term to describe his friend in 1968 and went on a racist rant saying stop britain from becoming a black colony. keep britain white. that was particularly shocking at the time because clapton's music was heavily influenced, one might say, appropriated, from black musicians. one of his biggest hits was a cover of i shot the sheriff. as someone wrote -- clapton has apologized for his racist past, blaming it on his addictions, but his behavior over the past year is questionable. as rolling stone put it, he went from -- to becoming an outspoken
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