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without them, we face analysts months of chaos at our hospitals, damage to our economy, and anxiety in our schools. an empty restaurants. and much less commerce. look, i know the vaccination requirements are a tough medicine. it's unpopular for some. politics for others. but they're lifesaving in their game changing for our country. >> president biden gets tonight's last word, the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. >> well good evening once again day 261 of the biden administration. our nation has averted something of a financial catastrophe at least for now. tonight your u.s. senate voted 50 to 48, along party lines, to temporarily raise the debt ceiling, just 11 days before the deadline. that came after mitch mcconnell
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allowed it to happen, by agreeing not to block a simple majority vote. however this does not end the drama, over the debt limit. will be back at it again in december. rest assured when the battle over how much the nation can borrow, starts up all over again. meanwhile a confrontation is quickly shaping, up between the former president in the house committee investigating the january 6th riot, insurrection. and attempt to overturn the election. there is now less than one hour left for four former trump aides to comply with the subpoena for documents relating to the capitol riot. in the effort to deny joe biden the presidency. nbc news confirming a political report that trump is directing those aides to defy the committee subpoenas. trump's lawyer sent them all, letter telling them not to cooperate, also says, trump intends to exert executive privilege, but former presidents don't get to do that. here's what's to members of the january six committee had to say earlier tonight.
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>> the former president doesn't have the authority, to order them to not comply. we are prepared to take any and all actions, available to us, to force compliance. >> the former president has done everything he can, to try to get in the way of this investigation. i would expect that we would make decisions on relatively quickly on what the next steps might be. >> today that committee issued three more subpoenas, due to pro trump activists, plus an organization deeply involved in rallies, held before the insurrection. one request for documents and deposition, went to allie alexander. the leader of the group stop the steal, which as its name might imply, was one of the most prominent organizations pushing the big lie. the panel cited reports that say that alexander possibly used violence to achieve his organizations goals. and had been in touch with the white house, and members of congress. there is also stunning new
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information, tonight about the sheer intensity of trump's relentless effort to cling to power. senate judiciary committee today, released a nearly 400 page report, titled, subverting justice, how the former president and his allies, pressured the department of justice, to overturn the 2020 election. says it right there in the title. among the previously unknown revelations, trump directly asked doj, nine times to help him investigate, baseless claims of voter fraud. the report even includes a photo from an oval office meeting, with doj leadership, and new year's eve. december 31st. senate report also describes another oval office meeting, just three days before the insurrection, in which trump pressured the then acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen and others. trump discussed replacing rosen with another justice official, who promised to pursue the election lies. he only backed down after rosen, his deputy, even white house counsel pat cipollone,
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threatened mass resignations. cipollone is said to have argued that trump's proposed ban would be a murder suicide pact. senate judiciary chairman dick durbin says the reports finding the grave risk during those final weeks, of the last administration. >> we were so close to the constitutional crisis. do you think that we would allow donald trump to question the outcome, of a presidential election, and to defy all of the legal analysis, we've said there is no massive voted fraud. he looked flat out lost the election. that was a serious moment in history of the united states. shame on us if we just pass it by. >> republicans on the committee led by senator chuck grassley, are out with their own analysis, of the presidents, actions following his election laws, in addition to citing trump's concern about, what he perceived as an attack on the electoral system, this report also finds his actions were
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consistent, with his responsibilities as president, to faithfully execute the law. grassley by the, way the dean of the senate republicans, is speaking at trump's rally and iowa this weekend. one other item tonight, there is promising, news on the covid front, at long last. pfizer has now asked the fda, to sign off on its vaccine for children, between the ages of five and 11. we will have much more on this medical development, later in this hour. but with that let's bring in our starting line, on this evening, sam stein, veteran journalist who is now white house editor for politico, daniel goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney, for the southern district of new york. also served as general counsel for the house intel committee during the first trump impeachment, them and kimberly, previously of w b you are in the boston herald. now a member of the boston globe, editorial board. also one of the cohost of the podcast, sisters in law.
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with joyce vance, and barbara mcquade. good evening and welcome to you all. sam it was your news organization, that broke this story. about trump influence on the one six committee. how if at all, does this bring us into new territory? given the players? >> well i, mean this is what we're building up to. right we knew that trump was has an urge to find participation from former aides in this committee investigation. we knew that he was going to pressure them not to cooperate, whether it was in respect for the committee or hand documents over to the committee. now we have it ordered, the question, is what you these four people do? with that request? do they honor, and defy the committee? defy the subpoena. and risk all the legal consequences that come with. do they fight it out? do they comply? and, everything that we know from the past, is that they
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will, confiscate, they will dig their heels in, and they will basically dare the committee to actually flex its muscles that it has. democrats seem to be talking much more aggressive game. we saw a couple clip saying we will pursue all in the, options but it becomes stacey obviously, it becomes this very hyperpartisan, hyper political proposition, once you get to that stage. so, now it's now the attention is on what the committee. does if in fact they do end up defying the subpoenas. >> that's a great question and it brings us to daniel goldman, daniel, here is professor lawrence tribe, up at harvard law school. he says this tonight. challenging assignment. explain why this is not criminal obstruction of justice, and of, congress committed in plain sight. daniel, i don't have a degree from harvard law, school or now that i think of, it from any college. and you are a lawyer and not a politician. so let me ask it this way, that
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seems right to me. the democrats have been surely browned by the republicans, at every turn, for going on what five plus years. lay out for us, what the committee can possibly do, can really do, real consequences, beyond kind of vague threats and promises. >> well, the committee doesn't have that many options. but one option that is available, that was not really available in the last congress that i worked for the house, is to refer over these witnesses to the department of justice, to initiate criminal contempt proceedings. which is a whole different animal, than enforcement in court, through either civil contempt, or civil enforcement action by congress. let's just take a step back here. because they're sort of two things going on in parallel, one is that donald trump, and ordinary citizen of the united
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states, is intervening in an official proceeding, and trying to influence others, not to cooperate with an official proceeding. that is obstruction of justice. and because he is no longer the president, when he did that when i worked for the house, he had the patina of being the president of the united states, and being able to invoke executive privilege. he no longer has. that so he is interfering in, this investigation. with absolutely no basis to do so. as for the witnesses themselves, they would like of course to rely on this assertion of executive privilege, with donald trump can not exert right now, in order to avoid having to testify. i would, way if i were in the house right, now i would wait until next when they were subpoenaed to sit for a deposition, and then i would refer that, over to the department of, justice for them to consider initiating criminal contempt proceedings. which could result in the
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witnesses going to jail. this is very serious. this is much more akin to if you violate a grand jury subpoena. then what we've seen in the past. in real briefly, brian the reason to wait for that, is that there's a reason opinion that the don mcgahn case, which basically said that there is no such thing is absolute immunity, so there's no basis for these witnesses not to show up to congress, they can try to invoke executive, privilege when they are there. but they cannot justify the subpoena at all, it's a much more straightforward and simple case, than dealing with these documents. >> will return to this subject, after we ask him, about politics, and capitol hill. and donald trump, this guy has been out of office, for nine months. he is able to command loyalty from elected republicans, and apparently from former
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employees. is that just simply fear? a new reporting >> it's not just fear. i believe that republicans see that his methods, of politics, especially with a party that is continuing to shrink, has been effective, if you look at 2020, it's donald trump lost the presidency, but they did not see this sort of beating the republicans could have taken, in congressional races for example. that's why we have congress, and i believe in its attempt to hold on to that power, any way you can. i think that's why you see attacks on election laws, because they know that voting rates, because they know that the fewer people vote, the better that they make out here. but i think there's also something more broadly going on. with donald trump himself. he is out of office. but one thing that i found very
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interesting about this senate report, was saying that, his ongoing claims, that the election was stolen, his ongoing perpetuation of the big lie, continues to pose a threat, the threat is not over. after him leaving office, it's one of the things that is spring, and worrying folks like those who stormed the capitol on january 6th, to take those actions in that there would be more. this is a really serious report, yes it lays out and gives details on reporting that we've already seen. done in the past. but it also really creates a very clear message for americans, why they should care about, that is why this is a big deal, and why this is still an ongoing threat given that the president continues, the former president, continues to play. >> sam, i saw you on social media tonight, commenting on this. let's talk about chuck grassley. he gets a past, generally impressed coverage all day long
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and weighs on sundays. as the kind of cantankerous, but lovable, dean of republican senators. he's going to run again, a reelection term that would bring him to i think if my math is, ray age 94. let's underscore what it means, that chuck grassley is speaking at a trump rally this weekend. >> first off i thought you were going to talk about my social media admit of the red sox tonight. i'm glad we didn't go down that route. as for my social media comment and shook, grassy i thought this was an extraordinary thing. here you have, an actual, the dean of the senate, especially on the republican side, going to a trump rally, right after he announces his reelection campaign. in this is someone who, while he did not vote for impeachment, the second time around, he did put out a very blistering statement. that condemned trump, for how
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he handled the postelection lead up to the january 6th, riots india here, today, he issued a report, i thought this report in some ways was even more notable, then the senate democratic's judiciary report, and that is set essentially, that trump should be absolved, and almost applauded, for not going down the route that he explored, nine separate times, that he was just testing this, system in doing is constitutional responsibility, to make sure that it was done accurately. it's a wild conclusion to reach, akin to saying someone who's, conspiring to rob a bank, and asking all these people to help him do it, should get a pass. because he didn't ultimately go through with the active robbery. but that is where we are. intermediate symbolize that the institution of the republican party, the bravery. the people you think would say you know we don't want to go down this route, they have a memory to hold two large. deliberately january six.
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they moved on because they think it's advantageous for them. and daniel goldman, in your first answer, you kind of matter-of-factly stated that donald trump, this does meet the definition of obstruction of justice. in public and out loud. with his order is conveyed through the letters to the former employees, wait about that. what about consequences there for all the folks watching or heard that part of your answer, and are wondering where the consequences are for the former president. i've been saying for a while now, the department of justice needs to open up an investigation. i different an overlapping investigation into donald trump and his close associates post election conduct. because in many ways but they did between november and january 6th was even far worse from what they did, specifically on january 6th.
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and it prompted and perhaps caused the horrible consequences that we saw from the insurrection riot and that it requires a criminal investigation. this is positive and parcel, or perhaps a separate investigation. but it all dovetails together, with a clear intends to overthrow the government. to overturn the election. and what we learned in the senate judiciary report, today, adds to that fire. and, we are basically learning something just about every week about how it was actually worse than what we knew before. and it just requires an investigation, because we cannot allow a president or other senior government officials to try to overturn an election, without, at a minimum, a criminal investigation into seditious conspiracy, subverting the election, whether be obstruction of justice for what he did today,
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can all be part unable. >> kim, as you're probably aware, fox scored a rare an exclusive phone interview with donald trump, and surviving that withering questions from sean hannity. trump let it be known again, that he thinks mcconnell should be replaced atop the gop leadership in the senate. this may call for a prediction on your part, and may borrow from your reporting, but is mcconnell going to be tough for the next time that the debt ceiling comes up, in december, having been called out this time? >> we look, i think mitch mcconnell has sort of mastered this ability to distance himself, and try to move on from donald trump, while simultaneously not running afoul to what donald trump's priorities, or losing support from his supporters.
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so i predict, although i like tuned predictions, that he will continue to do the same thing. certainly, donald trump has not forgotten the speech about mitch mcconnell made that one day on january six, condemning him. one thing i think that the shows, the way donald trump can attack those who are formerly his allies. of, course donald trump's greatest accomplishments which was -- sifted jenner's share with the appointments. how we can turn on a, dime with those who do not do his own bidding. we see this in their support, i think that is a lesson for these for folks who stand real criminal liability, if they try to fight these subpoenas on these really baseless claim of executive privilege. they can ask michael cohen, the moment that donald trump is done with someone, he is done with them. and they could be left out on their own with very serious charges, having to face a lot
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of legal expenses to fight them. that is one thing that they should consider, when they're making their next-level moves. >> i want to thank you all for taking our questions and starting of soft tonight, sam stein, daniel goldman, kimberly atkins store are great thanks. coming up for us, the big lie, turning to washington's longest running drama. it would be cute if it didn't mean real consequences for our democracy. more, over the top performances today in the house, shocking details in the senate about just how far someone wanted to go to simply stay in office. now wet, james carville and mark mckinnon join us with some suggestions. later, but it's really going to take before you can really declare the pandemic behind us. one of our leading doctors will take our questions tonight, all of it as the 11th hour is just getting underway on this thursday evening, just beneath the truman balcony. , just beneath the truman balcony the truman balcony (video game vehicle noises, engines revving,) (horns beeping, cars hitting one another.)
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priorities, and i have my priorities, he has my president, that means we ought to communicate and be honest with each other. i think that's but we. have >> it's joe manchin's world, the rest of us are just grateful were allowed to live in it. the president's economic agenda hinges largely on support from the senator from west virginia. on his thinking right now, haunts nichols from axios reports that this way. we report, manchin is telling colleagues that progressives need to pick just one of
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president biden's three signature policies for helping working families, and discard the other two by forcing progressives to choose from an expanded child tax credit, paid family medical leave, or subsidies for child leave. -- but also signaling his willingness to negotiate. back with us, tonight two bruh friends of this program. we -- james carville, the co-host of the politics war room. and mark mckinnon, former adviser to both giorgio bush and john mccain. also the cohost of the circus, senate unions on showtime. gentlemen, welcome to you both. james, i really want to hear you out. let me proffer to things. only democrats are to blame right now for joe biden's agenda be in frozen solid.
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the blame goes no further than democratic party. democrats are also watching right now as donald trump like a bulbous tells his former cop owes not to write. so, what is the solution to you, but we hear advice of the party be. >> first thing, on the first question, we have 50 votes. we have to get all 50 and the vice president. joe manchin is an italian roman catholic democrat who gets elected in west virginia, and he said pretty much up front, he is willing to negotiate, that's the big thing. i think it will end up with something. you know it's bismarck's adage, you should watch josh be made, wow you give it some time and he'll come up with something. i'm fairly confident of. that but he represents a different constituency, comes
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from a different place, that a lot of people in the democratic caucus. and it's not gonna do any good protecting him or anything like that. and i think president biden indicated at that talked him, that he's open to negotiating maybe a will end up with 1.8 of three. these things have a way of resolving themselves at some point. but it takes time. it takes time. it really does. >> james, any criticism from the left? >> well, just understand 50, understand the concept of 50. you've get everyone the concept of a four vote majority. i don't want to be criticizing everybody, because one day everybody is going to go to sleep, and they're gonna be progressive, moderate, and it -- and i think that's gonna happen. and everybody's gonna go there and say, what can i do to advance this.
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because i'm telling you, we are getting ready to have an explosive economic recovery here. the covid numbers are starting to look pretty good. and if the democrats, and trump some legal trouble, don't kid yourself, he's in profound legal trouble. so if the democrats show some motion and some momentum here, they're not doomed to have a bad 2022. but they gotta get in, what could be a positive turns to things in the united states. it's very possible, not say it's gonna have been, but many of these things are farfetched at all. >> all right mark, i've got one for you. join us and watching ted cruz on the senate floor, on the subject of the debt limit. >> in the game of chicken, chuck schumer won this game of chicken. as true trucks roads to towards each other on a country road, one of the other was gonna turn, or you're gonna have allotted
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and chickens. i wish republicans hadn't blinked, we shouldn't have done that. >> so, mark, other than a new nihilism which taken at face value means he is, would have been cheering for a triggered recession, what is going on there? >> oh he's just playing the politics of the moment, brian, it's so hypocritical of gingras, not only do the republicans vote to increase the debt limit during the trump presidency. but what we are voting on now is to pay off the trump debt. so this is republican debt that the democrats are responsibly voting to pay off. and ted cruz is simply playing to the cameras for the critical moment. but the reality is, at the end of the day, if we did children to an economic crisis, it would be on a republican -- if it's gonna be the republicans that are gonna get run over by the truck unless
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they start acting more responsibly for the debt they create, with a huge tax cut for the higher income earners. listen, it's pure political theater and hypocrisy, but ted cruz is pretty good at that. >> yeah, he is pretty good at that. both of these gentlemen to our viewers, have agreed to stay with us. when we come back and continue our conversation with them, a republican congressman exposes the divide between reality and republicans in congress. s. s. feel good play good. gillette proglide, five blades and a pivoting flexball to get virtually every hair on the first stroke. look good, game good. gillette.
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. we don't know, because it demonstrates very clearly there are a lot of issues with this election that took place. we are gonna go through those today, but you can continue -- you can continue to perpetuated as long as you. what >> that was meant so society regional vice president, and republican arizona congressman andy bags today. still refusing to say out loud, what we all know to be facts. joe biden won the 2020 election in arizona, joe biden is indeed the president of the united states. >> still with us, james carville and mark mckinnon. mark, here's the question, already caused republicans to say that joe biden won the election fair and square in
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2020? >> well, brian, that's what's just so amazing, the security test -- you've been in the face of obvious facts, republicans got a bunch of conspiracy theories to run an audit. even they discovered that joe biden won more votes, not less than donald trump. as they controlled and paid for the whole audit themselves. they were completely controlled by trump, but they found more votes for biden. that shows just how much of a stranglehold holds trump has. the greatest lie in politics is election fraud. -- hundreds of lawsuits, and they need to come up with literally a single example of voter fraud. dan patrick in atlanta governor texas, offered 1 million dollars, is yet to pay out a nickel. -- 22,000 man hours trying to find fraud, they found six batted dresses, but that's 300 hours
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per address. 1300 hours per address. by the way, it's getting worse, even after the arizona audit, in the spending last week in texas. trump is giving greg abbott hell that they're not doing an audit in texas, oh and somebody should remind the president's sudden he won texas, and he won a big. >> so, james, to take mark's argument in turn it upside down. if you wanted to fuzz up the results of the 2020 midterms, and the 2024 presidential in advance, you'd launch a nationwide campaign to fuzz up confidence in our electoral system. >> see georgia, five january 2021. he kept on this crooked election so, some republicans didn't show up. it's 30% of the people in this country they don't believe in evolution.
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we have geology departments, we still have medical schools. i mean, these people who believe this are just chronically stupid, and we have to just paint attention diamond move oven. he is such a buffoon. we can't tied down by these idiots, everybody else got to get to get together and hammer out a deal, let's get this country rolling in here. we've got some good things getting ready, let's get in the groove and will see. but this is insane, how many times you gotta tell people the earth is round. it just is. and if you don't believe it, okay fine, there's no point in arguing anymore, it's just a waste of time it's a waste of breath. >> james, how much patients do you have left, how soon do they have to get out? it >> you know, i don't know, everybody puts a deadline up there. just quit talking about
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deadlines, and talk about numbers, and talk about how this is can affect people. what these republicans are doing with the debt ceiling, first of all it isn't anything constitutional, second of all this horribly unpatriotic. they're playing with matches at a very difficult time, and they're talking about doing away with military people, social security, medicare, having a worldwide recession and depression. and this is where dead cruz is talking about? i mean, my god, people of at least rally together and not try to hurt the country. i would even get it, it's ugly, of sir, they're so obsessed with power in politics, they don't care about the country anymore. i think senator manchin is watching this, and i doubt that he's very impressed by this. i don't think is the kind of guy who believes in defaulting on the debt, i really do. >> an update, no other
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broadcast to our knowledge. offers that same men with only men in hats. always a pleasure gentlemen. have a good rest of your. evening coming up, the other threat, alaska health care workers are facing, after a caring for covid patients in the rewards in overcrowded hospitals. overcrowded hospitals.
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hospitalizations are falling nationwide, some parts of our country are still experiencing overwhelming outbreaks, in some places the death toll is still on the rise. tonight, some hospitals in alaska are having to ration their health care, an already stressed out health care workers are also having to battle pandemic politics. and tonight, we get our report from alison barber, who has been covering the surge in alaska. >> brian, alaska is isolated,
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it is beautiful, but none of that means it is immune to covid-19, or the tension that so often surrounds. it in anchorage, where you have the biggest hospitals in all of alaska, health care workers tell us they are being paraded, physically assaulted, just for doing their jobs. and they say a lot of the hostility, the aggression that they're seen, it's rooted in misinformation, disinformation, and politics. listen. >> i got assaulted when i swab from somebody for covid who was, literally on the verge of dying from covid. she didn't believe she had it, and she struck me in another nurse after we swabbed her. >> sometimes, when i go to work when i go home, other times i can't stop thinking about what i had to deal with. with >> those comments and obscene gestures, those threats. that's what's sticks with us, even more than the lives that we save. and, that's one of the reasons
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why a lot of the people in the er in the icu quit. we >> just need you to calm down and step back, and really reevaluate where there's anger is coming from. >> in recent days contentious assembly meetings of an indoor mask meetings, i really shined a light on the harassment anchorage health care workers are facing. -- it's not just something that is just now happening, if they say it has been building for months. the big picture question is how will this impact the industry moving forward? they're already dealing with a unprecedented health crisis. add in verbal, even physical schultz, and some people are walking away from the profession. we already have a nationwide nursing shortage, it's difficult to recruit health care workers to places like alaska. and some worry that all of this will make people think twice about entering the health care profession. brian. >> what a situation there,
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alison barber reporting from alaska for us tonight. with our thanks. for more on what we just heard, we welcome back dr. dr. vin gupta critical claire in seattle, who's advised us he's -- on the faculty in university of washington center for health metrics and evaluation. doctor, your evaluation in that report we just saw? >> good evening, brian, it's sobering to hear that, i've heard that from colleagues, not only in united states but other parts of the world. i'll say that for all our viewers, we don't talk a lot about this, all reference my own experience just a few days ago. but health care worker shortage, as ellison emphasized, is the existential crisis of our time from a health care standpoint. the reason, brian that we have hospital surges, is not because -- it's we don't have enough nurses.
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other support staff i have a patient who transferred to meet two nights ago in the icu, from a hospital in western washington. near the pacific ocean because no longer has access to a respiratory system, we are moving people hundreds of miles so they can access skills staff, not to get a ventilator it best. airbus well an incredible turn of events. doug stay with us. we're gonna take a break. we will continue our discussion in just a moment, and coming up just in fact, we'll talk about how shots could be going into millions of smaller arms. in just the next few weeks in our country. i our country. it's a sunny day. nah, a stormy day. classical music plays. um uh, brass band, new orleans. ♪ ♪ she drives hands free... along the coast. make it palm springs. ♪ cadillac is going electric.
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the best result possible. response coordinator there, ♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪ with some welcome news for a lot of parents remaining with us is doctor vin gupta, and doctor that does not mean that parents are without obstacles. i want to play a clip for you and our audience from california, these are parents walking their children to school. >> this is rave. they're trying to rebar children with this poison. he needs to be traumatized because it put a lock on. him you don't let him breathe freely. your traumatizing him. that's my choice that's my. choice you better respect my. choice no. no you're a propaganda. you are not going to be told the truth. masking children's child abuse. you mask your child, your child abuse or. >> what's a country we live in doctor. what a great job the anti-vaxxers have done getting their message out.
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that is the situation in beverly hills. so the parents brave enough to go ahead and vaccinate their children, what assurances have you for our audience that they are making a safe choice? >> you know brian, the reason this has taken a longer time, is because, pfizer, moderna olive, the companies from the united states, have double clicked on the specific issue. safety. what is the right dose? because what we are seeing, is that in 16 to 29 year old, certainly older group and 5 to 11 age group that we are talking about here, there tends to be a higher risk a very mild card ideas. of inflammation of the heart. so what we don't want to do is coups younger kids an unnecessary risk. because this is less likely for them to end up in the hospital. that is why we are trying to figure out the right dose. that is why it's taken a lot longer. to make sure we are studying this for safety. for effectiveness. and that is why, frankly, other
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countries across the world have said, instead of two doses, maybe will go for the one dose option. there are discussions that we have to have here with the fda. who is going to lead it. is there basically going to be two doses, at a lower dose, spread three weeks apart. is one dose? enough for those who are less than 12 years of age. these are the essential questions in the next 2 to 3 weeks. that's why every parent out there should rest assured that safety has been top of mind. in addition to effectiveness. and what is going to ultimately being recommended, is what is most safe for kids less than 12 years of age. one dose, or maybe two doses with a diminish concentration. >> and in about 45 seconds, what do we need to know about this coming flu season. >> we'll all say as a pulmonologist, we are worried about this twindemic as we're calling it. this concept that people are going to be more vulnerable to the flu in a way that last year we did not see. and maybe it will come back with a vengeance. so it is really important, for
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everyone in the audience right now, get your flu shot. now is the perfect timing to get the flu shot. because in two weeks, if you get it tomorrow brian,, you'll be protected throughout the end of february, early march which is the perfect window. >> next week for me, doctor vin gupta, grateful as always for your time. and taking our questions tonight. coming up for us, an unusual moment in washington today. just when you thought the u.s. senate was out of surprises. that story when we come back.
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tucker carlson appears on fox news and distributes bogus information and science. to hundreds of thousands of households across america. tucker carlson is the biggest anti-vaccine quack in america. >> last thing before we go tonight, that is kind of the definition of good news, bad news. as on the upside you get to hear your name read aloud in the u.s. senate. such an honor. unless your name is tucker carlson. fox news was in the news today because it's their 20 it anniversary. much more than the network is getting publicly shamed for its role in giving oxygen and attention and credibility to the anti-backs movement. and genuinely casting doubt on
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the vaccine through countless guest on countless segments. indeed in emergency room physician who has been a guest on this broadcast. posted a video today calling out fox news among others. specifically for a scene he witnessed in his emergency room, involving a very sick patient. >> we [inaudible] but i had a patient today, specifically we're giving them we [inaudible] , because they had covid, and that is one of the few things that is shown to definitely provoke them, in hypoxic people with covid-19. and this person was adamant, pressing the nurse to make sure they weren't giving him a vaccine. that it was in fact a -- i asked him multiple times because he is so against getting the vaccine. even laying there, strapped to all these tubes and lines, and oxygen. still against the vaccine, i
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don't get it. i could pretend like there is something i understand about it but i don't understand. and we -- have to put some blame on the people who are so against it but just the poison by people's minds, and facebook, and facebook groups, fox news, republican politicians who are out there. no questioning vaccines who are opposing mandates. we need mandates. because we have to get people vaccinated. i don't care how we do it. if you don't want to get vaccinated then you just don't get to participate in the parts of society that so many of us do. like going on airplanes, going on buses, going on subways. and that is just how we have to get their. that is how or else we won't get there any other way. and i am absolutely sure of it. and so now we have just another day of the host of people coming in who were not vaccinated. who now have covid. who are either sick enough to be hospitalized, their oxygen slow. or they're not a sick, but they qualify for monoclonal antibodies. they will not take it fully
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approved fda approved vaccine. but they are willing to take an amusement c use authorization monoclonal -- vaccine is approved, vaccine cost about $40 for the two doses, at the monoclonal antibodies cost about. if my frustration is showing it just because it's their way that were office traded paramedics, doctors, nurses, texas, all of us. just so fed up. we show up, we do our jobs, we love doing our jobs, we like taking care of the people in our communities we just wish they would take care of themselves. so people be safe. get their vaccines. get your loved ones to get vaccinated. and we have to get the. >> a report from the real world tonight to take us off the air, which just might be the new benchmarks for true vaccine hesitancy. that is our broadcast for this thursday night, with our thanks for being there with us, on behalf of all our colleagues at the network of nbc news, goodnight.
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