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now it is almost certain donald trump will be put under oath in the servos lawsuit. that is tonight's last word. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. well, good evening once again. day 258 of the biden administration. that sound you heard earlier today, that was life in america without facebook. you also might have heard the sound of mark zuckerberg losing about $7 billion in the course of just today by one estimate. that's because facebook, instagram and whatsapp all stopped working for most of the day. 3 billion customers worldwide unable to access any of it, shares of facebook down 5% in just one day. timing here was curious because it was just hours after a
facebook whistleblower broke her silence on "60 minutes" saying its products are harmful to our children and harmful to our democracy. francis hougan walked out of her facebook job with thousands of documents, promptly leaked to the "wall street journal." she'll testify tomorrow morning before congress after she agreed to blow her cover and tell her story last night. >> one of the consequences of how facebook is picking out that content today is that it is optimizing for content that gets engagement or reaction. but its own research is showing that content that is hateful, that is divisive, that is polarizing, it's easier to inspire people to anger than it is to other emotions. facebook has realized that if they change the algorithm to be safer, people will spend less time on the site, they'll click on less ads, they'll make less money. facebook over and over again has shown it chooses profit over safety.
it is subsidizing, it is paying for its profits with our safety. >> facebook has responded, and you can make of this what you wish. their statement says in part, quote, every day our teams have to balance protecting the right of billions of people to express themselves openly with the need to keep our platform a safe and positive place. we continue to make significant improvements to tackle the spread of misinformation and harmful content. to suggest we encourage bad content and do nothing is just not true. in her opening statement tomorrow, hougan will urge senators to regulate the company, saying, quote, when we realized tobacco companies were hiding the harm it caused, we took action. when we realized cars should have seat belts, the government took action. i implore you to do the same here. the senate is also the scene of another drama, the battle to keep the u.s. from going into fault before the october 18 deadline exactly two weeks from
today. while it used to be a virtually automatic vote, not anymore and not with mcconnell and his republicans voting as a bloc. today the president called out the gop, in fact. >> defaulting on the debt would lead to a self-inflicted wound that takes our economy over a cliff and risk jobs and retirement savings, social security benefits, salaries for service members, benefits for veterans. not only are republicans refusing to do their job, they're threatening to use their power to prevent us from doing our job: saving the economy from a catastrophic event. as soon as this week, your savings and your pocketbook could be directly impacted by this republican stunt. >> mcconnell sent a letter to biden this morning, essentially blaming democratic leaders pelosi and schumer for the delay. but schumer insists his party is trying to move forward quickly. >> we will need to get a bill
extending the debt ceiling to the president's desk by the end of this week. we aren't asking republicans to vote yes, even though it's debt that they incurred. we're simply asking that they get out of the way. >> and the white house pointed out that this is to pay the bills the republicans ran up. >> this is their debt that they chalked up themselves. this is a period of time where we could easily solve this in the next two days and easily do that through allowing democrats to be the adults in the room despite the fact that republicans spent like drunken sailors the last four years before president biden took office. >> meanwhile, there is encouraging news tonight about the latest surge in virus infections. cdc reporting new cases are indeed down 13% compared to the previous week. >> we are seeing a turnaround, diminution in cases, diminution in hospitalizations. i fully expect if we keep going
in the direction of a diminution in hospitalization and cases that the deaths will start coming down. >> and johnson & johnson says it intends to ask the fda this week to authorize a booster shot of its vaccine. about 15 million americans received the j&j single dose vaccine. later in this hour we'll ask a doctor how soon that booster authorization could be in place. and with that, let's bring in our starting line on this monday night. phil rucker, pulitzer prize-winning correspondent for the "washington post" co-authored with carol leonnig "i alone can fix it: donald trump's final year." and carol swisher is back with us, technology and business journalist of the "new york times," host of the podcast called "sway." in her spare time, she also
hosts the podcast called "pivot" with our friend scott galloway. good evening to all. carol, because of today's news, i just saw on twitter before we came on air noted that the three evening newscasts all led with the facebook outage. he said it was the definition of addiction. i would also argue this goes to national policy, it goes to things like possible regulation, it goes to an attack on democracy and so on. but with that in mind and noting you know more about facebook than perhaps second only to mark zuckerberg, do you think today, do you think the aftermath of this whistleblower, the argument she makes and the documents she presents, is this different than what they faced in the past? >> well, it's always different,
right? every time facebook gets in these jams and they seem to have a lot of them, they seem to get out of it. they have nine lives, ten lives. i'm not sure. the stock went down for different reasons, including the outage. they never seem to pay for what they do over the many years. i do think the whistleblower, who is from the inside, carrying papers and documents out, is much stronger than anything they've faced before, and their response has been extraordinarily defensive. and that statement you read was -- no one is accusing them of creating hate or causing the insurrection. they were accusing them of using their platform, which is enormous, to amplify and weaponize. that's very different but very serious. i don't know, we'll see what congress will do. congress has done nothing. regulators in the united states have done nothing over the many years. i don't expect them to do anything yet until i see it. >> and yet phil rucker hitting
on facebook seems like a truly bipartisan issue, especially at a time when the administration is looking for any kind of distraction from things like, oh, i don't know, the debt limit and the president's agenda. >> it could be, brian, and what we've seen in the evolution of the criticism of facebook over the last few years is it's gone from election interference and these issues of democracy straight into people's homes. we're talking now about body image issues for teenage girls, for example. that's something that hits home for a lot of voters around the country and could create potentially some pressure on elected representatives here in washington. but you're right to point out that even as the facebook story is a huge story tonight, even as the testimony will be tomorrow on capitol hill, the focus of so many lawmakers, and especially the legislative leaders, will be on the debt ceiling showdown. october 18 is coming close.
we are already seeing jitters on wall street and among big business about the possibility that the u.s. could default later this month. president biden said he couldn't even rule it out that the u.s. would avoid default, and that is a very serious admission and i think a statement to how broken our political system is right here right now in washington. >> and, a.b., i said potentially it's a bipartisan issue, but i do want to ask a question in my statement to you. how do bipartisans approach facebook? i know it's en vogue for their party to tweet out for big tech, but for some it's an information delivery system, let's face it. >> right. what's interesting is that there has been a push from both sides. not a broad push but from senators josh hawley and senator
elizabeth warren and some others who are very, very diametrically opposed on every other issue trying to rein in big tack and they put a lot of their fire on facebook. it's just that now, in this environment, it's very hard to see that they would form a united front and bipartisan coalition and take on this very, very challenging task of regulating these platforms that say they are not publishers and they need to protect free speech, and that on two sides of this very polarized congress, you would see some kind of cooperation on this issue. i imagine -- also you mentioned the insurrection, that this will become an issue of whether or not this is focused on people who came to defend democracy at
the capitol on january 6th and become part of the narrative of the big lie and one seeks trutherism. i'm with cara, it's hard to see it ends up in any material change, and although i think there are many smart minds in congress who have ideas about how to regulate facebook and the other platforms that they have the will to reach across the aisle and actually do something that could get passed into law. >> cara, indeed our friend and your audio partner, scott was on another network tonight and he was wondering if this isn't some kind of intensive moment for facebook. he used the example of mothers against drunk driving. we all know the risks and horrors of driving drunk, but
not until parents coalesced and brought only the attention they can. i suppose if enough parents say, look, we've seen instagram. everyone is skinnier, happier, their puppies look better, they take long vacations, and this hurts in so many ways as their brains are developing. >> i don't know. he calls it mothers against mark and cheryl which is mams, i guess. i don't quite understand it but it was funny. i don't think that will be the case. i disagree with them. i think this company has shown themselves to be very deft at skirting out of problem or pretending we didn't know anything was going on with president biden. president biden brought together
a few people, tim wu, john kanter who possibly will be in the justice department on antitrust. that's very powerful. but they've got to get something done. and the only way they can get something done is through the courts. now, the courts have shown themselves very in need of more legislation. so everything rests with the legislature. in europe and new zealand and australia and canada, they've all shown a means to getting to this. but here in this country where these companies are located, our legislators, i don't know if you can guess how much legislation covers the internet, brian. how much do you think? how much would you imagine? >> i read as much as i should for my job. zero, would be my guess. >> nothing. there is nothing that protects them and gives them immunity. we don't have data protection
laws for the internet. we don't have a privacy bill. we don't have an anti-hacking bill. you could go on and on about lots of things. until we have just one piece of legislation that controls these companies, we're going to have this same outcome. and we were out there. whatever they feel like doing, we're going to have to do. the only power is the federal government to deal with this, and we'll see if they will. >> so, phil rucker, back to politics and the president you cover for a living. some democrats are concerned at the lack of a sales job for the biden agenda. other democrats are concerned that the abject lack of kind of anger and emotion behind what they need to pass. as far as you can measure, what's the level of concern right about now with the clock ticking in the west wing? >> brian, there is a great
amount of concern in the democratic party, and there is concern among democrats because of the inability to get the biden agenda passed in some form or fashion. we're seeing progressives turn against the moderates, and two of them, congressman joe manchin and congresswoman krysten sinema. there is talk that the target for this larger package is going down substantially, from 3.1 trillion to somewhere near 1.2 trillion. joe manchin wanted it to be near the 2 trillion mark. there is nothing attracting support for this government package. that's a cause of concern for the white house, for president biden and vice president harris as they look ahead to next year,
a campaign year, when the democratic majorities in the congress are going to be on the line and up for grabs, and the democrats want to have something big, a big ticket item, to say that they got done with their majorities that they governed competently and effectively and delivered for the voters back home, and without passing this build back better agenda, they're not going to have a ticket item to run on. >> a.b., games of chicken are always dangerous because as the title implies, they need one person to be chicken, whether it's a dark country road at high speeds at night, or whether it's mitch mcconnell vowing to supply not one republican vote for the debt ceiling. what is the danger of his gambit here, and do you take him at his word? >> brian, i said last week that the democrats believe mitch mcconnell and they still do. what they will do is try to push through a democrat only clean
bill that if it faces a republican filibuster will get more press and more rhetoric, but ultimately the democrats are going to find a way to do this on their own, and they know that he does not care if he is called a hypocrite or anything else. and they're not going to breach the debt limit. they're also going to pass both of these bills. i think we saw an interesting, unforeseen development last week in that while senator manchin and senator sinema will still sign this welfare package, the progressives were still able to roll nancy pelosi. ultimately president biden rolled the speaker, and that is something the majority conference did not expect. that's why we didn't see a vote, even though she held the
legislative calendar from thursday into friday from one month to the next and on friday she saw the president come up and actually side against her. so this is -- just as phil mentioned, it created a lot of distrust, a lot of anger. i still think they get it done. i don't know when it will be. it will be by october 31, but in the end, it's going to be what senators manchin and sinema determine in terms of size and scope, and i do believe that both of the bills are going to get passed. >> with great thanks to our starting line on this monday night. to phil rucker, to a.b. stoddard, to kara swisher. feel better. thank you, the three of you, for starting off our conversation tonight. coming up after our first break, he accused mitch mcconnell of destroying the senate when he was there with the filibuster.
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democrats need to stop sleeping through another crisis. democrats need to tackle the debt limit. we gave them a road map and three months' notice. i suggest that our colleagues get moving. >> again, all of that spoken with a straight face. the senate expected to vote again this week to suspend the debt ceiling, and the vote is again expected to fail because mitch mcconnell's republicans continue to block it. "politico" is reporting on schumer's gamble this way. quote, democrats are betting the
needed republican senators will eventually cave in order to stave off an unparalleled economic disaster, which could hit in as little as two weeks, but the gop refuses to fold. democrats are running out of time to remedy the crisis on their own. great night to have back with us former minnesota democratic senator al franken who these days has the good fortune to host a podcast bearing his name. hey, senator, what do you make of this mcconnell threat? are they really going to sit it out? and are the democrats doing enough, getting angry enough, making enough noise? >> he's going to sit it out. as you said before the commercial, i said he's destroyed the senate. he did that by -- he did more filibusters of executive nominees during obama than had been done in the previous history of the country.
and this is just him being ruthless. merrick garland said, we have to start doing that. one, we are going to have to do this. it would be insane to default. absolutely insane, we can't do it. the dollars of default currency of the world. we can't let it not be. so it will happen. i have confidence that we will step in there and mitch will do exactly what he says. but we have to start being as ruthless as him. for example, the freedom to vote act, which was negotiated by amy klobuchar and joe manchin and others is a great bill. but we need to pass it because state legislatures have passed these voting bills, these election bills in these states that say that the state legislature can overturn the
results. that's kind of what trump wanted them to do last year. we can't allow that to happen. so joe manchin says he will not get rid of the filibuster, but we can modify it. the more we have a plan to do that, instead of 60 votes to stop a filibuster, you need 41 to sustain a filibuster and 41 senators have to show up on the floor and they have to stay there. they need 41 and they have to debate. it's a talking filibuster. if they have 50, they can go back and forth, but the average senator could only be off the floor, republican senator, only be off the floor for five hours. and it won't last long. >> but to your call to action from your fellow democrats, you know better than most people the cultural difference between the parties.
democrats have always been and continue to be kind of culturally skewed toward student council presidents, increasingly whole foods and electric car enthusiasts. as rick wilson famously said, democrats bring a soup ladle to a gun fight. meantime you're up against stone cold killers. >> yeah, we have to stop it. we have to be stone cold killers. and this is -- we're going -- by the way, i agree with a.b. stoddard exactly. this is going to get done. she described it, i think, perfectly. on the voting rights, this is an existential threat to our democracy. if we lose our democracy, we lose everything. so we have to pass this bill. and you can carve out and say for elections, this is our democracy. we can carve that out and pass
it with 51 votes. or you can do what i'm talking about, which would restore the filibuster to what it was, which is something that was rare when a minority cared about something. and i want -- i would love for them to debate these voting laws in these states. i would love to hear the debate on why you can't hand somebody water in a line who is still waiting for hours to vote. >> yeah, i'd show up for that debate, too. if memory serves you, you served with manchin but not sinema. what generally do you make of the mike nichols and elaine may of the u.s. senate? >> nichols and may were much funnier. joe i know very well. look, there's stuff he's proposed, i think, in the last
day or so that are good things. for example, getting rid of taxing carried interest as capital gains. we're going to get there. we're going to get there. and sinema was very helpful on the bipartisan infrastructure package. she's going to get there. they have to get there. and we have to start -- there is so many great things in this package. there is medicare negotiating for pharmaceuticals. we pay three times as much for the same pharmaceuticals as europe. and that's because the biggest purchaser of pharmaceuticals in our country can't negotiate. all their governments negotiate. that's ridiculous. a child tax credit reduced child poverty by half. biggest middle class, working
class low income tax cut in the history of the country. people like the elements. we have to start talking about what the elements are and not call it the reconciliation package. >> well, let's call this segment a blueprint and a call to action from a guy who knows from the u.s. senate because he's been there. al franken, friend of this broadcast, thank you very much for joining us from the twin cities tonight. >> thanks, brian. coming up for us, new reporting on how the january 6 committee is bracing for a collision and a legal fight with many of those who thought overturning the election was a good idea, including the guy who sent them down there. m down thee they may have lost an eye, or their hearing, or their youthful good looks. but there's a lot of things these remarkable dogs haven't lost... like their ability to lick, wag, and love with the best of them. join subaru in helping underdogs find a loving home and celebrate
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i want to warn people, once he takes office, if he were to win, he doesn't have to worry about election anymore. he would be about revenge. he would probably have some pretty draconian acts. >> quote, some of his advisors were concerned that democrats might use his announcement in their effort to frame the midterm elections around his candidacy boosting their own turnout and hampering his plans if republicans fall short next year. we have susan del percio,
political analyst and political strategist herself. good evening, and welcome back to both of you. cornell, let's start with you. do you buy the post reporting and the reasoning as to why they talked trump out of announcing early? >> i do, but it's kind of ironic that trump announcing that he's going to run for president again would somehow be a hindrance to republicans. if the guy who you want to be at the top of your ticket is problematic for you at the top much your ticket, maybe you should think about whether or not it's a good idea for him to, in fact, run again. i do think they're right. trump announcing would reenergize that 7 million-plus americans who is the difference between his coalition and biden's coalition and would energize a whole group of americans who, quite frankly,
don't want to see trump and trumpism in the white house and in power again. but also, brian, the moment that trump announces he's running for president again, it becomes really problematic for all those other republicans who are, quite frankly, from desantos on who are angling for that office as well. >> yeah, nikki haley is so desperate to be considered she came out in the last 24 hours against vaccine mandates. susan, speaking of trumpism, how ugly will the 1-6 committee get before it's over? and as a percentage of what they want, how much will they get from these witnesses? >> i think they're going to get a lot more than they did from the impeachment hearings, mostly because a lot of people are afraid of criminal charges being brought up against them if they don't comply with the subpoenas.
and trump is no longer in office, and they know that trump will not be loyal to them, will not cover them, will not pay for their legal bills, so people are going to come forward. when it comes to trump specifically, that's going to be certainly a challenge, but i don't see people, you know, being there for him knowing that he won't be there for him when he needs it. >> and cornell, listening to al franken, one of the things al said was, in effect, wait until people learn what's in these bills that the biden agenda is contained in. that is a criticism, actually, of the messaging. why don't people understand what they're going to get, how their lives are going to be improved and enriched? where is the barnstorming? where is the pr campaign? biden is going to michigan, but that leaves 49 other states that haven't seen an itemized list of
what bridges are going to get blown up and built back and what people are going to be served. >> well, the short answer, brian, is democrats are really good at governing, they're really bad at messaging. and that's nothing new. i mean, the guy i once worked for, obama, a lot of his stuff that he was putting forward was really popular, including, you know, the aca which right now is above water and people really want to keep aca, but at the time the messaging was off. profits 101. if you're losing profits, you're losing. democrats have been really bad at explaining the process. if you look at the headlines, all the headlines are talking about is democrats can't figure out how to avoid the debt ceiling crisis. none of the story, quite frankly, is about mitch mcconnell and republicans
filibustering the process. my criticism would be simply this. it would be that i think, brian, in the end, is not about the debt ceiling, it is not about whether or not you get a child tax credit that's going to rally americans. it's got to be bigger than that. i think to rally americans, the next election really should be about what franken -- the former senator was talking about is bigger ideals. do you want democracy? you know, to you, suburban mom, what does the future of your children look like in an america that is no longer a democracy? i think there is bigger, more profound, more fundamental ideals and values that play in the next couple elections right now, and i think that's a simpler task for democrats to try to message around than getting to all the details and policy positions of some of these bills, which are very good. not to say we shouldn't do some of this, but we have to get
bigger for the moment than simply talking about a child tax credit. >> and, susan, as someone like you who knows all the mechanics of this and literally how a bill becomes law, does schumer have any cards to play on something like the debt ceiling that we don't know about or we're not smart enough to be talking about? >> he's the majority leader, brian. of course he has cards to play. i sometimes wonder if he gets his roles confused with mitch mcconnell, because mitch mcconnell seems to be calling the shots in the senate. i mean, along with krysten sinema and joe manchin, true. but schumer knew three months ago that mitch mcconnell was not going to help him at all. as a matter of fact, he said he was going to get in the way of their agenda wherever possible. so the fact he has done nothing should not be a surprise. you do not play chicken with mitch mcconnell.
he sees this as a political game and he sees chuck schumer as being a weak majority leader. and when he sees weakness, he pounces. so yes, chuck schumer can do a lot. but it doesn't seem like he's willing to or maybe the president doesn't want him to, but he step up his game. >> i don't know much, susan, but your comments just now should be clipped off and played all day during programming tomorrow, because they're important. and there's a verb for what we're seeing, and that is the charlie browning of the democratic party. cornell belcher, susan del percio. after being called the grinch, dr. fauci tries to set us straight about holiday
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the best way to ensure we'll look good going into the winter is to get more people vaccinated. that was misinterpreted as my saying we can't spend christmas with our families. that is not the case. i encourage people, especially vaccinated people who are protected, to have a good and normal christmas with your family. >> dr. fauci, who yesterday warned it's too soon to know how covid will impact holiday gatherings forced into a little bit of damage control today. tonight new infections are on a steady decline. there has been no similar decline, however, in the death toll and experts warn that a winter surge is still possible. it's a lot, so we're happy to have back with us tonight dr. celine gounder at the nyu school of medicine in belleview, new york. she was part of a panel that advised the incoming biden
transition team. she also hosts a weekly podcast on the impact of the pandemic called "epidemic." so, doctor, let's put it this way. if you were putting together a pamphlet for how we should behave in family settings this coming holiday season and it had to go to the printer tomorrow, so some of it had to require you looking into the future, what would your guidance be? >> brian, my guidance would be, number one, number two and number three, get vaccinated. if you are not yet vaccinated, please get vaccinated. this is going to be the best way for all of us to celebrate safely over the holidays with our family and friends. a couple other things i would add to that list, number four, number five and number six would be testing. rapid testing is something you can do at home. this was not widely available last year and really could be more available than it is even now. it is not affordable for everybody, but if you are able
to get your hands on rapid test kits to use at home, test in the morning before you hang out with your family. as long as you're negative, you can relax that day. then the other two pieces i would add is do as much as you can outdoors, especially if you have more vulnerable elderly people or immunocompromised people in your household and have some masks on hand, especially, again, if you have some of those more vulnerable people in the household. >> i also wanted to get you on the record on the j&j shot. what's your read on the effectiveness of their shot and their booster, and so many people are asking if they can mix brands. if people have had two modernas, can they get a pfizer booster. if people have had one j&j, can they get a moderna booster. can you take that on for us? >> so the data on two doses of j&j, a second dose after the first one, is looking really good. protection well into the 90s for severe disease, hospitalization and death, and also very good
protection against infection. as to those mix and match options, the nih has been conducting mix and match studies of every single possible combination of pfizer, moderna and j&j. they have already collected the data on using moderna as the booster. i believe they are completing collection of pfizer as the booster as we speak, and will have also soon data on j&j as the booster. so i think by mid to late october, we're going to have that data to inform how best to mix and match. >> we've got about 45 seconds left. our death toll is stuck around 2,000 souls a day, though as we mentioned, new cases are down. what's your degree of optimism going into the holiday season, which, of course, could be the middle of a winter wave? >> i do think we're looking at an ebbing right now. things are declining. i think we might hit that low
point in mid to late october, and then we'll see likely another rise again over the holidays. i'm hoping it won't be as bad as last year since we'll have vaccines and other tools at our disposal. but i would just urge everybody to be safe when you see your family and friends and do take precautions. >> dr. celine gounder, thank you. every time you can come on our broadcast we appreciate it as we do taking our questions and addressing viewer questions. coming up for us, millions of leaked documents revealing where trillions of dollars have been stashed by some of the biggest names in the world. a report on what's being called the pandora papers, when we come right back. right back next. the next generation of visionaries. rule breakers. game changers. and world beaters. we certainly aren't here to do what's been done before. and neither are we. at palo alto networks, we are ready to secure our digital future.
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leaders, politicians, celebrities hiding their wealth in offshore accounts, as one does. npr reports it this way. quote, of 12 sitting heads of state implicated, most are from low or middle income countries. our report tonight from chief nbc correspondent andrea mitchell in paris. >> reporter: in a leak of nearly 12 million documents called the pandora papers analyzed by 150 news organizations, including the "washington post." heads of state and other major figures have hidden vast amounts offshore. today the president responding. >> you said if you could fight this corruption in your national security, what is your reaction? >> we're looking at that right now. >> reporter: why should people
care about this trove of 1 million documents? >> it means the wealthy and the elite and those who can take advantage of this aren't paying any taxes at all. >> reporter: according to documents by the "post," vladimir putin financed the royal banks. the kremlin brushing off the claims. >> so the big concern, do we know who owns assets in the united states and what are they doing with that control? >> reporter: the papers also revealing jordan's king spent more than $106 million on luxury properties in malibu, california, washington, d.c. and other countries. the purchases are legal but embarrassing given jordan's economic crisis. a jordanian official tells nbc news the king is spending his own money, not public funds or the millions his country receives in u.s. aid. i asked secretary blinken about it tonight as he arrived in
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