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tonight on all in. >> you cannot fire. you cannot concede. this is the fun part. >> hi drama in the halls of congress, are there new signs of life for the biden agenda? congress moving ilhan omar and senator chris murphy join me live. then, >> saying to people, i know where you live. that's intimidating and threatening. >> why the national school boards association is asking the white house, and the fbi to protect members facing threats over public health. plus, the inglorious end of a
mega underworld all-star, and, she's the governor who wants to be president, who things are states attorney general should resign. >> i still continue to believe the attorney general should resign. >> why the disgraced attorney general assaults a code is looking into misconduct allegations against governor christie null. when all in starts now. [inaudible] democrats in the senate say they will not support the big reconciliation bill because the price tag is too high. progressive democrats in the house that they won't vote for that bipartisan infrastructure bill passed by the senate, until they have a guarantee on the broader build back better bill. the one that includes big
climate provisions, to get utilities to conferred to clean energy and time to avoid climate disaster. karen elder care, expanded medicare, and boma care. the house is supposed to vote, on that bipartisan infrastructure bill, tonight this was all set up this, week this deadline had been agreed to. and there was a run-up, and nancy pelosi is gonna vote. and people said but we don't have the votes. if we win today not knowing what would happen, leadership now says there won't be any votes, until nine eastern at the earliest, and top policy aides are apparently huddle up with white house advisers tonight. trying to figure it all. now, it's easy to get lost in the process, lord knows i have at times. the fundamental dynamics here of not change, the overwhelming majority of democrats, in congress, in both houses, support the 3.5 trillion dollar build back better bill. 95% of the democratic caucus, across all kinds of areas, both moderate and progressive, people in very safe seats, and
people in what's called frontline seats. people that are in swing, seats will have to defend next year. there's an amazing degree of consensus on this legislation, which again, embodies the agenda that joe biden ran, on if you printed out his website during the campaign, this is it. this is what democrats are bringing for the country after they won the election. the problem continues to be that these are very notable holdouts, and democrats need 100 percent consensus to get the bill passed. you probably know who these holdouts are. arizona senator kirsten cinema, she's not sent a ton about her position, but she did issue a statement today saying in part, quote senator sinema said publicly more than two months ago, before the senate passed, the bipartisan infrastructure bill, she would not support a bill costing 3.5 trillion dollars. and of course, west virginia senator joe manchin. he's been far more vocal. about the fact he's not on board. and more specific to his credit, today there was this leak of a document, that manchin signed in july, saying he would only
agree to his spending bill capped at 1.5 trillion dollars, instead of the 3.5 trillion dollars bill that president biden wants, and manchin came out with a statement yesterday, blasting the build back better bill. saying it was designed to, quote vengefully tax for the sake of wishful spending. and that's because most of the bill would be paid, for just to be clear, it's not a huge increase to the deficit, with tax increases, on big corporations in the very wealthy. today manchin told reporters quote, he cannot accept our society, moving towards in entitlements mentality, while making clear, where he sees himself in the party. >> i voted pretty consistently, i don't fault any of them who believe the much more progressive in much more liberal. god bless them. all they need to do, is we need to elect more, for them more liberals. >> i kind of agree with joe manchin there. he's not nor is he ever been illiberal. no one would confuse him.
and if there were more liberals in the senate, we wouldn't be here. but whether you're liberal or not is not really the issue, the question, is is that legislation good or not, and whether manchin is right about its critiques. and i think he's wrong, joe manchin is someone i hope is subject to persuasion. so it's worth highlighting how his substantive and political critiques are wrong. first, you have to take issue with the description of taxes and the richest americans and corporations as quote, vengeful. can't speak for the emotional states for the people who wrote the legislation, but you tax the rich for the same reason that you john dillinger rob banks. that's where the money is. look at this chart. it shows america's revenue, from corporate income tax, as a percentage of gdp overtime, it is essentially at an all-time, low right around 1%, for context, the u.s. collects, fewer revenues, from corporations, than any other country in the g7, there we, are all the way on the right, nearly a whole percentage point
behind germany. in italy. corporations are more profitable than they've ever been, they are paying the lowest taxes ever, thanks to trump's tax cuts. which by the way, joe manchin to his credit voted against. you think if he was against lowering the corporate tax rate before, he'd be for raising it back up to where, was that's not even what's being proposed to be clear. if you think corporations -- the very richest people. we got this incredible reporting this year by propublica. just over the summer, that shows some cases the very richest people on, earth are literally paying no taxes. no income taxes. none. in 2011, a year in which wealth had roughly steady 18 billion dollars, amazon founder and chairman jeff bezos filed a tax return, reporting the last income. his income that year was more than offset by investment losses. what's more, because according to the tax like he made so little that he even received, a 4000 dollar tax credit for his children. well thank goodness, that tax
credit was there for jeff bezos. he was worth 18 billion dollars of the time, any qualified for a child tax credit. the richest people are paying next to nothing in income taxes. and it has nothing to do with a vengeance. again, it's literally where the money is to tax. mansions other buzz were the phrase in his statement is about entitlement mentality. what are we actually talking about in this bill? we're talking about for one thing, federal money to subsidize childcare, so that people can go to work. parents who want to work, who want to have a workforce, but don't have childcare to do it. we're talking about elder care, again which will allow more people to go to work, if they so choose. we're talking about dental care for seniors, maybe you think, i don't know an 80-year-old person deems dental care, should get a second job to afford. and if we give them free dental, care they will be to entitled. but i personally and not super worried, about the seniors of america getting really lazy,
because someone is checking their teeth. no one should lose fight of the fact that above him beyond the substance of its provisions, this, bill this build back better bill, is popular. it's pulling very well. people seem to like the whole vengeful taxation par, including in joe manchin's estate, the charleston gazette-mail reports a couple of six under west virginia voters, found 48% support biden's reconciliation plan. keep in, mind that's pretty good in a state that joe biden lost by nearly 40 points. and again, after we pulled borders, were given the option of raising taxes on the richest americans and corporations. we're closing the loopholes that have caused significant wealth disparities, support for the plan roses highs 70%. look, sometimes legislation is good legislation. it's not that popular. it's going to have a big backlash. i think that was probably true of -- or is true to a certain extent of the aca. i covered and written about, legislation move for congress over a decade, and there are
sometimes really hard votes. we have over it's the right, thing but you're going to get a lot of backlash. and this, this vote. this bill, partly due to some real pragmatic cleverness, i think from the democratic party and how they designed, this should not be like, that they should not be a hard vote. joe manchin and kristen cinema need to realize that. joining me now for the more perspective, from the, senate's democratic senator chris murphy, of connecticut. senator, i want to have you on because you said something, you said something that i think, jibed with my read on today. you said something along the lines of, getting statements from sinema and manchin, were positive steps today. elaborate on that. >> i see today as a good day. this is a bit of an artificial deadline that was created by the speaker of the house. it was a forcing mechanism to try to get her caucus to come to the table on the bipartisan
infrastructure bill. but also a forcing mechanism to get joe manchin and kristen cinema to be a bit more detail than what they support what they don't support, and in that sense, we have had a good day. right now as we speak there are discussions happening. there are more detail, more nuanced, than any point in the last few weeks, about what kind of agenda, all 50 senators can get behind. now, if it ends up being closer to one and a half trillion dollars, over ten years by the, way not over one year. we will have to make some hard, choices between whether we will save the planet, or whether we will see middle-class families from bankruptcy due to childcare costs and health care costs. but at least we're talking, it least we're making progress. and again, the ability to pass biden's agenda does not expire tonight. it doesn't expire tomorrow. we can still work at this over the course of the next several weeks, the next month, to get it done and get it done right. >> okay, there is a little bit,
i hear you on this, the sort of forcing mechanism, little bit of an artificial deadline. a transportation authorization which expires, but you can take care, and that you guys kept the government open today, like it was nothing. when you want to, vote you can vote. so, who is doing the talking here? right now, what is happening? describe for me what's happening? >> so right now, as i understand, that you have senator manchin, in cinema, and their folks talking to the white house and senator leadership about a framework, what are the things that they can, support what are the things that they can't, as you mentioned, you're picking from a grab bag of really popular items, but items that are frankly vitally necessary to get this economy up and, running you mentioned childcare, so i met a woman in, hartford connecticut, earlier this week. who is out of the workforce, for one reason and one reason only. because she cannot find
affordable care for her one year old in her three-year-old. she wants to be a social worker, she wants to be in the health care field, but she can't do it, unless she can find an affordable childcare space. as we have all these employers, who are clambering for more workers. for more applicants the investments in the build back better agenda, are good for them, just as much as they're good for average people out there, we are going to have to make really tough choices, here but if we don't, invest in things like childcare, then i don't think there's any hope to address some of the fundamental weaknesses in our economy. and i think it's those decisions, that need to be made by senators, that are holding out. in consultation with the rest of us in the white house. >> this is the thing that i have watched develop, and have been saying on this show. everyone has to kind of talk to each other. there's nothing gets done here by any kind of, game theory bluffing, or back-and-forth. ultimately, when you have to reach consensus, and if you've ever been in a room where you have to be consensus, it's my least favorite thing in the
universe is doing that, the only thing that happens, is people talk to each other. that's it. >> let's not forget the context here, we cannot lose a single vote in the united states senate. we have to come up with a major historic investment in regular people. in average middle class families. and we need to do it with every single democrat on board with a similarly slim operating margin in the house of representatives. i think up until today, some of us were not sure that senator manchin was really on board for anything. he was saying a week ago that he wanted to punt this whole thing to next year. it's good news, that this room exists now, in which we are working out the details. that's why i think a lot of us take from today, a bit of a boost heading into what we hope are some fruitful negotiations today through the weekend. >> that was my read on it to. the thing that i've learned the hard way over the last five
years, is boy the future is uncertain. it's not pre-women, and we don't know what happens next. we've learned that the very very hard way recently. senator chris murphy thank so much for checking in. >> thanks. >> democratic congresswoman ilhan omar is the whip for the professional caucus, and she joins me now. congresswoman. what are you hearing, what is the guidance you're getting from leadership right now. what is your understanding of what's unfolding right now? >> it's great to be with you chris. i think it's along the same lines as with the senator was just expressing. that there is some real progress that's being made. there are conversations that are being had. the white house is been working around the clock. the speaker and majority leader chuck schumer, have been in conversations with these two senators, and the questions that we have been asking, for these last couple of days, of
what do they want? what are they willing to compromise on. what are they willing to invest on. and they might soon get answered. and then we will move from there. so right now there was this vote that was going to happen today, on the sort of hard infrastructure bill. which is really, people should understand, it's a surface transit like a highway bill that has other stuff in it. but that's the kind of vehicle for it. that bill, the plan, and something that i think sinema and mention and i think most of the people in your caucus want, we'll just past that, and that will figure out the rest. and the progressive caucus said, not so fast. we let that go, we are afraid that the rest dies on the vine. which brings us to this point. my understanding is, you still have enough votes, no votes, that the speaker can't just walk to the floor and bring the bipartisan bill up, right? >> yes, the reality that we are faced with is that this bipartisan infrastructure bill
was sent to the house, we are not allowed to amend it. there is no work that we can do with it. and many of us don't fully agree with it, but we are willing to support it. because it was negotiated as part of the deal, to be included as part of the agenda that the president has, that includes the build back better act. and what we have said is that we are committed to passing the two pieces of legislation together so that we can implement that full agenda. we have made a promise to the american people that if you are locked by, then if you get us the house, if you get us the senate, and that we are going to make will investment. and childcare, inclement rig zelensky, in expanding health care, and expect the shortage of housing, these are the kind of promises that we made to people, and we must fulfilled.
him 96% of the democratic caucus within the house and the senate agrees with this agenda. it is ready to vote as it is right now. we have 4%, less than 4%, that are holding up progress on the part of the american people. and are blocking the agenda of the president. and this is a once in the lifetime opportunity for us to make these kind of investments, and we are willing to fight for. it >> it's funny you say that, because having covered the version of this ten years ago, a decade ago, last time democrats controlled both house of congress, the block of people in the house and the senate that were more aligned ideologically with manchin and sinema, and even gottheimer who's in the house with you, was much bigger. i mean what is striking to me actually is when you are talking with the scope of the agenda, climate investment,
childcare, huge changes to obamacare that would expand on the csis, to make health care cheaper to people, more affordable, more accessible, a huge part of the bill. that you don't actually have a ton of fissures that of the democratic party, which is somewhat surprising honestly because if you run this ten years ago it would be all out civil war. >> that is the thing that we can be optimistic about in regards to the fate of the democratic party. these policies that used to be fringed, are now very popular. and not just with our base, but with our colleagues as well. it's been really surprising to see that the folks that are leading the charge in childcare. and others are frontline members. frontline who have won trump districts, and members who understand from their own personal experiences. and the experiences that our constituents are having with
that these kind of investments are needed right now. and they are investments that are needed now because we have neglected for many years to make these kind of investments. the last time we were able to do anything as bold and as transformative, was in the 1930s. sinema and manchin seem to forget that these investments are also going to help their constituents. they were sent to do congress to represent the voices of their constituents and speak up for those that are being left behind in the policies that are made in washington folks, that believe that washington doesn't work for them. that government doesn't work for them. and people who believe that once you elect politicians to office that they are going to listen to a lobbyist and not you. and so i do hope that they don't approve their
constituents right, that they do the right thing, and they help bring us and these investments into peoples. life >> congresswoman ilhan omar, thank you for taking so much time on a busy night we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> as the house breaks for a potential vote tonight, though we do not know, i think they have this blue screen up when they're in recess, which means something crazy is happening. there's a lot of frantic deal making happening behind closed doors. -- you would be hard-pressed to find better experts on what is happening right now, with those conversations look like, with my next two guests. what it's like behind those stories tonight. after this. we
whether or not the house votes to advance that bipartisan infrastructure bill, or pulls the vote at the last moment, or we just stay in the state of suspended animation for a while. derek had something managed to do, to keep the government open, that's important and good. just before the midnight, the house senate approved a message from the government until december 3rd. so will be back here again in a little bit. but it diverts a partial shutdown and we are happy about that. that buys them time to find out how to convince republicans not to plunge the country, into physical crisis or figure out -- either one. in the meantime again they face one of the most difficult high stakes legislation understating in a decade. and i am joined now by two veterans in the senate, adam former deputy stuff to senator,
read the rise of the modern senate. and jim manley who worked on capitol hill for two decades serving under ted kennedy. and six under senator reid. jim manley, as a younger man i'm gonna go to you first and ask you what do you think is happening right now. you've got reporting that you've got, white house staffers, staffers for mentioned and sinema, i don't know if they're in the senate, but what is happening right now to the best of your knowledge and your experience. >> well the emphasis on best of my knowledge and experience because i am not operating on a lot, but the traitor tells me that the white house stuff is going over to senator schumer's office as a ten or 15 minutes ago. if i have to take a guess of what they're trying to do is put together a framework, an outline, a whatever you want to describe it, that they can show to everyone in the house, hey we got a plan. let's vote for this thing.
let's get it going. and what they are doing now, if that reporting is making sure that mention and sinema are on board with this idea. and what i find wild is the idea that i saw a reporting that they may just take the bill before, and keep it open for hours. and that is where the while part is going to start happening. you are going to have this speaker circling through the house for trying to get in the face of everybody one-on-one, along with her whips and whatnot. the president i assume is going to be called into the house cloakroom, and they're going to meet at the house staff, and they're gonna be pulling members off the house floor. they're going to you know, this thing is going to play off for a couple of hours, or as suggested maybe -- maybe they postpone as they sort it all out. but i'm [inaudible]
to hear, but i don't wanna mischaracterize your view, but i see that you are not really concerned with the [inaudible] violence as i, am because as far as i'm concerned it's pretty bad. >> well maybe i am being, needlessly saying, adam jentleson what is your, if you were a family therapist, what is your interventions that you are making here? >> i think i would emphasize that everybody has the same goal. and i actually think that that is true. and i think what progressives have done is bring back into the picture, that is really critical here is to envision the full biden agenda. and not just think about the infrastructure bill as what you said is a glorified highway appreciation bill. this is not the core of biden's agenda. the core of biden's agenda is in the reconciliation bill. the 2 to 3 trillion dollar package. and that is looking very dicey
to passage of that large in the bill, we are looking very dicey even a week or two ago, and progressives have brought that back into the picture, and said wait again this is a two track deal, this is a two for one. we will pass the infrastructure, build the highway bill, but we have to have some greater level of assurances that reconciliation is going to pass. because we went into this without a single of moderates, we're not talking about moderates broadly, i think it's a small faction in the moderate caucus, -- or kill it altogether and progressives have put a stop to that, and brought both things back into the picture. >> yes, and i think that on the assumptions obviously i think people know where i am on, this and i think we get once in a shot to do something on climate, which is just absolutely necessary no matter what. and all of these investments are long overdue. and will make people's lives. better and politically popular, so let's do. it the human aspect of this to me is interesting jim, and i was just talking about this earlier today, with somebody that i knew as a good
negotiator who when i was on the other side from him. i would go in not wanting to get in drawn into a conversation, but before i knew it i was responding and rebutting, and once i was responding in rebutting it was like, now we are having a conversation. which means we are going to get to some settlement here. even though i didn't want to have the conversation. and i felt like that was kind of the breaking point today with manchin and sinema, oh boy are responding. now we are talking now. and you've got to get to their, because now it feels like there is a consensus that we are going to pass something. which i didn't feel yesterday. >> god i hope you're right. if i am trying to channel the house progressive, i am looking at the comments by senator sinema and a letter from mentioned, and i'm saying that i don't trust these guys as far as i can spit. so as adam suggested, and you know them, well everything is
on the line here. it's a make-or-break time, and if we don't pass something. it is going to be real damage in the election in 2022, and do real damage to the rest of the biden agenda. but i still see people taking hostages, i still see dried legs in the senate, yes it's great, i mean leaving aside how manchin got how. >> well he leaked. it >> -- we finally have a bottom line but we will see, there is a lot of twists and turns left to go,. >> yes we are blackening that we're living in the real good that doesn't exist right, now just to this weekend focus >> but finally though adam i think this week of possible lines in the sand, is that their does have to be good faith and faith building measures happening. that is key here. that exists, i really think they're minority factions within each, within the
moderate caucus, that sort of push this to a point of tension. because i think really, everybody else understands that if democrats have a bit here in 2022, in the midterm elections, moderates will be the first to go. will be the first to lose, and so every single democrat is better served by passing this moderate agenda, i think the best thing to have the votes sometimes is clarifying for, that even if it fails. i will know manchin cinnamon up in 2022. although you know who, is mark kelly from arizona. probably can use a little help there. thank you both >> still to, come the right-wing cultural some new battleground school board meetings across the country, in the face of growing, that's and intimidation. officials now asking the white house to step in. that's next. in that's next.
back at the beginning, the obama administration, 2009 2010, all of the conservative anger and energy in the country's marshal toward defeating the new democratic presidents, signature legislation. the affordable care act. this is when the tea party movement came about. we saw republicans across the country, the right-wing media just absolutely frothing at the, mouth losing their minds about governing getting involved in your health care. and they were protesting and shouting about politicians pulling the plug on grandma. now more than a decade later, there's another new democratic president in the white house. and we see very similar scenes, again sometimes almost identical, this time they're yelling at school boards, about mask requirements for kids, and critical race theory. they're protesting covid vaccine mandates, and big government trying to keep us alive in a pandemic. you might think it looks literally like the same groups of people from ten years, ago and that's correct actually. the conservative groups, freedom works and tea party
patriots, which played pivotal roles in the beginning of those tea party protests, in the early years. have spent the pandemic, fighting covid restrictions, beginning with anti lockdown protests last year. it's getting really out of hand i have to say, last night in new hampshire, crowd of protesters opposing a plan to listen to this, expand the vaccination efforts in the state. expand trying to get people vaccinated. effectively took over and shut down a meeting of the governors objective council. they threatened the state officials who were considering new spending aimed at increasing the vaccination rate. one protester shouted, we know where you live. two state officials in attendance. 30 let yelling lead several officials to leave the meeting, escorted by state police. out of fear for their safety. and this is exactly what we're seeing and a lot, of violence antics and threatening at school board meetings in particularly, across the country. this is a scene in minnesota school board meeting this week. wherein unmasked man, attacked
another attendee, who spoke out again, in favor of a mask mandate for children. now, the national school boards association, is asking the federal government to step in and help. writing a letter to president biden, quo americas public schools in its education leaders are under and immediate threat. chip slavitt is the interim director and -- coauthor that letter to president biden. and he joins me now. first of all, maybe can you tell us what the experience has been like, across the country, for the school boards, that make up your organization? >> thank you for having me first of, all we appreciate the opportunity to talk about this letter, and why we felt the need to send it. school board members are facing a very critical time, they're trying to reopen school buildings and provide educational opportunities for their students, it is safe and positive environment, and we're facing these challenges of both a school board meetings but
also when they're out in public. on social media, and it's not a typical having a disagreement in a meeting. and then everyone goes home afterwards. these meetings are being disrupted, by crowd screaming and yelling, there's been physical assaults, there have been threats being received by school board members. one incident that i'm familiar, with a letter sent to the school board member saying we're coming after you, and all the members of the board of education. it really, unfortunately the video that you showed your peers, a few minutes ago, that is becoming all too common. as this issue has grown, it's made the challenges, for local school board members, who i might add are nonpartisan officials. in most of the districts across the nation, there are only a few where there are partisan elections, so they're making these these situations very difficult for the local school board members to do their job, which is to protect the children, protect the teachers and protect the community. we have to get back to a more
civil discourse, quite frankly our children are watching. and we need to be setting a good example for them. right now we argue that america school children are actually setting the good examples for all of us. they have endured difficult challenges during the pandemic, like we all, have but they have been resilient in their efforts, and it's time that the adults start following their example. >> one thing i want to confirm for you, we have live now in an era which everyone has a cellphones, you see a lot more video, of people acting terribly. i think in our daily lives. and i always wonder, are people acting terribly more often? or we just seeing it more. in so i'm hearing from, you want to get in the letter. is it's actually happening more often. it's not just there's a few viral videos, but actually the experience of the school boards is such that they feel, way more under threat. and way more intimidated than they have in the past, is that correct? >> that is absolutely correct. this is not an isolated incident, where we have
difficulty meeting, over a school consolidation. or who the new superintendent is going to be. these are really serious threats that are occurring. and as a national organization members of the state school board associations, the 90,000 locally elected school board members, we thought the time was, rain we needed to get the word out on this. it's not just school board members. its principles, it's superintendents. it's our teachers. and this is really a growing threat to public schools. and it's distracting away from the issue school board member issues need to be talking, about we have a teacher shortage, we have students with disabilities that require a lot of special resources, particularly during a pandemic. we have a digital divide in education, impacting millions of students. that's what we should be focusing on. instead of trying to deal with situations a school board meetings and threats of violence. >> chip, sullivan who heads the national organization of school boards. i appreciate you coming. on maybe will have you back to
talk a little bit more about. this is something we're tracking very closely. we appreciated. >> thanks for having. me >> still to. calm ever had a week so bad that you try to distract everyone from the scandal in the headlines, by getting everyone pumped for next year's fourth of july? >> or is that just governor kristi noem. allegations, the investigation, and they leads to the disgraced attorney general leaving the probe after this. attorney general leaving the probe after this we don't use just any wipe, is there any planted in the we use dawn disinfecting wipes. they're tough enough to cut through greasy messes, yet gentle enough to clean the surfaces that matter most.
galaxy with more shady people in it than trump world? one lawyer went to present, the other is under investigation, his top confident had to be pardoned, so did his campaign chairman. and then, there is cory lewandowski. trump's very press campaign manager turned advisor, and super pet chair, he has a long history of gross behavior. back in march 2016, lewandowski was charged with battery for man-handling a reporter. something that he initially denied until the surveillance
video showed what happened. he grabs her, charges were later dropped. just two months later he public screening match with a trump spokeswoman on the public street of manhattan. the next year a pro trump singer, accused him of sexual assault, saying he slapped her but repeatedly at a trump hotel holiday party just moments after this picture. none of that was enough for trump world to fully [inaudible] , and again why would they? a trump donor has come forward to say that lewandowski, has made sexual advances towards her at a charity event this weekend. on the record telling politico, he repeatedly touch me inappropriately, said vial and disgusting things to me, stopped me, and made me feel violated and fearful. her attorney also said that lewandowski threw his drink at her and called her, stupid. just hours after the story, broke a trump spokesperson tweeted that lewandowski would
be going on to other endeavors. and we very much want to thank him for his service. he will no longer be associated with trump world. i guess that sort of finally took. not grabbing a reporting, not fighting, another campaign staffer, not even being accused of sexual assault by a trump supporter, and assaulting someone who gives trump money. that is when trump world finally kicked lewandowski out. and get this, it is not just trump world, lewandowski is now exiled apparently, from known world to. because for months, lewandowski had been acting as a unpaid advisor to south dakota governor christine no. today her communications director told that he was always a volunteer, never paid a dime, campaign or official, he will not be advising the governor from a guard of the campaign or official office. now as crazy as it sounds the lewandowski issue has been released and there have been no problem, the corruption scandal brewing south dakota next.
through his will to. he is widely seen as lying in the state i think it's fair to say that he is not but he has a real perception issue. he is facing impeachment. and that wants to resign and wants to investigate the scandal against no. >> yes it's a remarkable turn of events he had just four weeks ago was resolving his own legal saga and had the governor once again, reiterating her call and what was a pretty forceful state he said that the attorney general is back and respect remorse for what he. did -- and now and rounds book is definitely looking at a lot of water to potentially go after a governor that has potentially become -- not once he becomes this remains to be seen. we don't remember with the scope of his investigation will, be we reached out to his office
yesterday and i didn't hear back, but a legislative owner committee said that there are also going to be looking on the matter in the committee has the power to subpoena documents from the government, and that obviously is -- as you put it quite a. big >> you wonder if it's an understatement to say there's a lot going on tonight in washington, a lot of moving parts just this hour on capitol hill. a lot of stuff we are going to see develop. we think over the course of this hour while we are on the air. at the very end of last night's show you might remember we showed you footage we got in just at the last second before we got off the air from last night's congressional baseball game. this happens every year. it's been going on over a century and is supposed to encourage camaraderie among lawmakers. how's that going?