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good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead a defining moment. right now i'm like you, still processing what has not been an easy week for any and every kind of justice or social cohesion. our nation risked its fifth shutdown of government in a decade, disrupting the few life lines extended to communities of color in the midst of a pandemic that continues to disproportionately harm them. meanwhile, the two-party infrastructure plan that president biden devoted so much of his early leverage to is slated for an ambitious house vote next week, even as it is once again undermined by his presumed allies in the senate.
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it wouldn't all be so galling to the civil rights community if those negotiations hadn't stretched out over most of this year, demanding so much political oxygen, while at the same time the most concerted federal effort we've ever seen to reform policing effectively died this week as our most cynical selves knew that it would. as you can tell, we have a heavy show tonight, but it's still not as heavy as my heart and mind because two days ago i returned from del rio, texas, where i went as head of national action network to protest the jim crow treatment and forced return of thousands of mostly haitian migrants to their suffering nation one week after these images dislocated america, conjuring not only slavery, of course, but the violent
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insensitivity of the previous administration that this current one was supposed to stamp out. my message is not to the man with the whip, but to the man with the pen, because it is the president who claimed to have black america's back on election night, and whether it's a horse rein in texas or a police beating in harlem, our backs are bleeding, mr. biden. joining me now, congresswoman yvette clarke, democrat of new york. congresswoman, you cochaired a house haiti caucus. you chair the congressional black caucus immigration task force, and you were part of the cbc delegation that met with senior house officials over the dispersal and forced migration of haitian refugees.
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can you tell us any of what the white house had to say about the situation and the current enforcement of the previous administration's asylum policy, which homeland security says will continue because of the pandemic? >> well, first of all, thank you for having me, reverend. you know, this week has been a very tumultuous one on different levels. the treatment of the haitian migrants, you know, by the biden administration has really shocked the conscience and it's rocked us all. yes, i met with senior advisers as part of the congressional black caucus delegation and the chair of the immigration task force, and they listened intently to our concerns. we were very pointed. we wanted to see due process for
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these migrants like every other migrant group that has come seeking refuge here in the united states. we asked for an immediate halt to the repatriation of haitians into a collapsed governance structure in haiti itself, and we asked that human dignity be upheld, that the officers -- the border patrol officers that were involved in this horse incident be disciplined, that we know -- and a transparent investigation into how it is that they found themselves on the border using reins to corral and to harm these migrants. so we're expecting a number of responses from the administration, data on how many folks were on those repatriation flights, what the current status
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of processing of migrants actually is, how these individuals are being tended to while here in the u.s. and being allowed to pursue their own cases. and so far, i have to admit -- >> we were asking this because we have asylum policies here. i mean, what qualifies for asylum given the nature of where haiti is, a president assassinated, right after that you have an earthquake, right after that you have tropical storms, you have the chief prosecutor saying the prime minister may have been involved in the assassination. i mean, if that doesn't qualify for asylum of an unstable, unsafe government, i don't know what does. i talked to the secretary of homeland security and raised a point you did about holding not only the people on the horses accountable, but their supervisors. you can argue whether the reins
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were used on the horses or the haitian refugees, they weaponized the horses. the horses themselves were a weapon. >> absolutely. and you're absolutely correct. i think the definition of asylum is something that we're all focused on, and we want as broad an interpretation as possible. what's significant about this migrant group is that these are individuals who under the pandemic conditions and located in other parts of the western hemisphere, primarily in south america, they have faced a lot of discrimination. >> right. >> marginalizization, and the inability to be in a hospitable environment. that's how they made their way to our border. the united states is a place of refuge, and we expect that we will follow that guidance that has always been there for
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refugees from around the world. >> absolutely. i want to go to another subject, but you're right because i want allowed when i went to speak to some of the refugees that were there, there was still almost 2,000 there when i was there thursday. i was able to speak to them through an interpreter. in fact, former ambassador that you and i have known for years was an interpreter for our delegation. they said they were treated with discrimination walking through mexico and parts of south america, and that they felt america would treat them better, maybe because we told the world that's what we represented. but let me go, congresswoman, as so many of us expected, police reform negotiations in congress concentrated on the bill named for george floyd is now dead. this after more than a year of global outcry and a singular murder conviction of derek chauvin was supposed to give reform legislation his best
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chance to pass. that obviously means that activists like myself will stop fighting for reform and i'm sure that cbc members won't stop fighting either, none of us will. and the president has seized possible executive actions, though no specifics. i increasingly find myself asking what back to the drawing board looks like at this point. after this moment that has been the last year, your response, congresswoman. what is going back to the drawing board -- what does that mean right now to you? >> well, to me that means we keep the pressure on. there is no going back to the drawing board, reverend. we know that we have put forth the most comprehensive legislation that is required to reform policing in the united states of america. and the fact that, you know,
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folks don't have the backbone in the senate to address what has been a long-standing issue for communities of color, for black communities, going back to the days of slavery and slave patrols, it's a disgrace and it's a shame. this is the 21st century. everyone has been focused on weeding out bad apples out of our police departments across this nation and it's a letdown to see there wasn't enough -- enough compassion on the part of some of our senators that we could advance this legislation beyond the filibuster and get the george floyd policing act passed in the united states senate. it's really a disgrace. but i think we have to keep the pressure on. there is no going back to the drawing board. we need to reintroduce the
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legislation on the senate side. the house has already passed a bill. we need to keep the pressure on. this session is not over, and the people of the united states need to raise their voices and let the senate know we are not satisfied with not having this legislation. >> what is we've lost, but the fighting is not over. >> absolutely. >> let me ask you this. democratic leaders in the house hope to pass both a physical infrastructure bill and a so-called mega bill for social spending next week. the moderate and progressive wings of the house democrats remain in disagreement over scale, scope, and price. speaker pelosi just sent out a letter urging colleagues to pass both as well as a budget resolution to raise the debt ceiling this week. where do you come down, congresswoman, on the viability of such an ambitious target at such a fractionist time?
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>> listen, this is a once-in-a-generation moment we have to advance our civil society in the 21st century. i don't believe that we should be short changing the investment to the american people, to our families and our communities that are still navigating their way through this pandemic. when we come out the other side of this pandemic, we had better have made those investments wisely so that the next generation inherits from us a much stronger, more resilient nation than the one that we are currently living in, because i can tell you, between climate change, between the ability for families to go to work and be able to afford the type of care for older parents and younger children, it's critical. for us to be able to have a robust public health infrastructure that protects its people from the types of pandemic that we are experiencing right now.
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it's critical we make these investments. i don't see there being one bill without the other. we must have budget reconciliation alongside the infrastructure bill. and i think that it's an imperative at this moment and you're listening audience needs to make sure that they speak up about this as well. >> all right. i'm out of time. have to leave it there. always great to have you. >> thank you for having me. >> from brooklyn, my hometown. moving on to my political panel. juanita tolliver is a democratic strategist, susan del percio is a republican strategist. both are msnbc political analysts. i want to start off with immigration. as you know, i went to del rio, texas, this week to see conditions that haitian asylum seekers were facing. while many of them will be heard by an immigration judge, the biden administration deported at least 2,000 people back to
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haiti. and the administration is facing backlash, including from their own special envoy to haiti who resigned in protest this week citing that, quote, inhumane counterproductive decision on deportations to a nation in crisis. susan, how should the biden administration handle this criticism with changes to foreign policy, immigration laws, or both? >> well, rev, i think this week we saw this nation at its best when almost every governor that was asked to take in an afghani refugee accepted and big businesses offered jobs. we saw our nation at our worst when we saw the violence against the haitian refugees. that comparison is important and it's something that the biden administration needs to look at very carefully, very seriously. yes, immigration's obviously a
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complicated issue, but the heart of joe biden's campaign promises was to be -- offer humanity and compassion at the border. that was what really got a lot of people out supporting him, and he owes them that. just clearing the site looking like you wished it away is not good enough. >> now, let's talk about the january 6th committee's ongoing investigation into the insurrection this week. they delivered subpoenas to four people close to the former president, former chief of staff mark meadows, strategist steve bannon, former director of social media, dan scavino, and former pentagon official, cash patel. trump is trying to stop their testimony. juanita, how should the committee approach this, and what does this step say about where they are in the process?
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>> look, rev, i think the step says they're still looking to get concrete evidence about trump's state of mind, what he said, when he said it, what he did throughout the january 6th attack, as well as the days leading up to it. these four individuals are essentially witnesses who were right beside him, who were in the room with him, who were tweeting from the white house, who were in meetings with him talking about, as reported, apparently how to pursued members of congress to not certify the votes on january 6th. and so they are going to be looking to get that information to piece together a full time line. i think the other piece is that it shows that what's critical here is getting trump's movements down, and i also appreciate representative schiff saying if these people don't comply with their subpoenas, we are willing to leverage criminal contempt charges to compel them to comply. as you mentioned, rev, trump is already fighting this, but we
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know we have a white house and a doj that is encouraging former trump administration staffers to comply with congressional inquiries, and that falls under this same umbrella as well. so it looks like the select committee is ready to leverage even those, again, criminal contempt charges in order to compel these individuals to present for depositions and turn over documents. >> now, speaking about trump, the disgraced former president refuses to give up his campaign rallies, spreading his big lie against all evidence to his most loyal supporters. he'll be speaking tonight in a small town of perry, georgia. susan, that is man who lost by millions of votes, and yet still has the party in lock step with him. is there any way trump doesn't end up the 2024 republican nominee poised to repeat his coup attempt? >> actually, i think there is, rev.
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right now he is the front-runner, but 2024 is a long way away. donald trump has even indicated when he left the white house that he would be four years older and may not want it. most importantly, i think people are getting tired of what he's trying to sell. we've seen some of that in the polling. 50% of republicans don't want to see him run for 2024. he will milk this for all it's worth. plus, let's not forget there's a couple of investigations into him that can certainly sideline him for a while, especially if they go into a deposition. >> all right. after months of negotiation with the black republicans in the senate, senator cory booker announced that bipartisan police reform had hate dead end. juanita, briefly, please, was senator tim scott negotiating in good faith or trying to run out the clock? >> absolutely run out the clock, rev.
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when democrats went to him with the bare minimum, which did not include ending qualified immunity, no knock warrants, he still said no. it just goes to show he was not planning to reach a deal with democrats at any point, so all eyes need to be on senate democrats as well as the white house to take action because nothing with republicans seems feasible, rev. >> we're definitely going to keep the pressure on because police reform is absolutely necessary. juanita tolliver and susan del percio, thank you both. coming up, the trump presidency is over, but the former guy is still finding fresh ways to stoop to knew lows. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. richard? >> rev, a very good saturday to you. stories we're watching for you this hour, the united states reached over 42 million covid cases. the death toll peaking over 690,000. a federal judge temporarily blocked new york city schools from enforcing a vaccine mandate
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for teachers and school staff. that mandate required new york city school employees to get at least one dose before monday. a panel of judges will review and potentially rule next week. hurricane sam strengthens to a category 3 in the atlantic with 120-mile-an-hour winds. it could reach category 4 by sunday. it's the 18th named system this hurricane season. commercial flights around spain's island of la palma are banned for safety reasons. large amounts of ash lingered due to a massive volcanic eruption sunday destroying 400 buildings and causing more than 7,000 people to evacuate. more "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton right after this short break.
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for this week's gotcha, i want to address the former president, a man who has never
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reached majority support in any presidential election and whose fall from grace seems to be accelerating by the day. it started on tuesday as the united nations convened where president biden offered a repudiation of trumpism without ever uttering his predecessor's name. and the current president's poise and diplomacy stood in stark contrast to donald trump who was famously laughed at when addressing the same body. >> in less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any other administration in the history of our country. america's -- so true. [ laughter ] didn't expect that reaction, but that's okay. [ laughter ] >> the list of things that trump
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didn't expect could fill a sizable library full of books, but this week alone trump world was caught off guard with several new revolutions about his time in office, the first was a memo that showed the trump campaign was fully aware that the election fraud and voting machine lies they were spreading and continue to spread were completely made up. but the most damning information reportedly illustrated just how determined trump was to carry out an actual coup d'état. a lawyer on the trump team apparently drafted a six-point plan to have vice president mike pence overturn the election on january 6th with the cooperation of republicans in the congress. according to the new book "peril," when pence refused to go along with trump's treasonous coup plan, the former president reacted in the way he knows
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best, like a petulant child. trump reportedly told pence, quote, i don't want to be your friend anymore if you don't do this. this week he also filed a lawsuit against "the new york times" and his own niece, alleging that their reporting damaged his reputation and demanding $100 million. experts agree that this lawsuit, like so many, is unlikely to go anywhere. trump's niece released a statement calling her uncle a loser and characterizing it as desperation. the walls appear to be closing around him indeed. the january 6th congressional committee sent out a wave of subpoenas this week to the people closest to trump leading
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up to that fatal day and those that spoke to him during the actual insurrection. of course, that led to another trump tantrum where the rage-filled statement repeating his big lie about nonexistent election fraud, and one of the most absurd, baseless, ill legitimate screams under that figure lie failed hilariously this week as the clown's show of a so-called audit in arizona couldn't find or manufacture any evidence of fraud. instead it showed that biden won the state by an even larger majority. as trump continues to lie about the election and whine about federal investigations and file bogus lawsuits, he shouldn't forget about the ongoing criminal investigations under way into his conduct in georgia and new york. the majority of the american public never embraced you, donald, and we never will. and now, your own desperation
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welcome back to "politicsnation." president biden is facing puckback from some of his democratic colleagues in the house after his $3.5 trillion social spending plan cut back on the amount of money that would be going towards funding historically black colleges and universities. the current budget reconciliation bill reportedly has less funding for black education and facilities that initially were promised by president biden. joining me now is a lawmaker who is taking a stand by threatening
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to vote against the budget unless hbcus get more funding. democratic congresswoman of north carolina and founder and chair of the hbcu caucus, alma adams. congresswoman, hbcus and minority-serving institutions are slated to get less funding than what was first promised when president biden issued his proposal in march. hbcus have been underfunded in the past. why is it so crucial that they get the expanded funded that was promised? >> thank you, reverend al, for having me. you know, i support the important parts of this bill. i'm proud to have worked with the biden administration to include millions in tuition for our students. but there is, as you said, a long history of hbcus being underfunded, if they were funded at all. so there's a broad agreement in
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both chambers and both parties since the founding of the first hbcu that goes back to 1837. we've gotten the short end of the stick in terms of government and private sector support, so it's a major equity issue that has forced hbcus and more than 300,000 students who attend to always do more with less. so we have a time now where we can -- if you're going to build back better, we must build our hbcus back, better infrastructure on these campuses. it's led to hbcus holding about $25 billion on deferred maintains on these campuses, and by comparison, if you compare the endowments of every hbcu across this country, the total comes to somewhere around $4 billion. so we really need to make sure that these institutions not only survive, but that they leave the. this is our opportunity to do this now, to be a part of this
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infrastructure. the president has made that promise, our schools are counting on it, our students are counting on it, and they need it desperately. >> now, i want to show a lot of people agree with the support of these colleges because the historically black sorority alpha kappa alpha raised $200 million for hbcus. in a press release this week, the sorority confirmed that it exceeded its goal and was met with donations from people around the world. president glen da but over with a vision for pushing this should be commented. it's exciting news to hear. and as a member of aka, i know you must be very proud. but after announcing -- >> i am. >> -- you would vote against the spending bill if the needs of hbcus have not been met, what conversations have you been having to ensure that this gets done? >> well, first of all let me just say i am a proud alpha
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kappa alpha sister myself. i'm very pleased with dr. glover's leadership and the support we've given to hbcus. i talked with my colleagues, of course, members of the cbc. i sent a colleague letter and talked to the entire leadership about the concerns. i'm just hoping that before we get to getting these bills voted on that the conversations that i had that, others have had, members of the hbcu community have had, that we will be able to address the problems in reconciliation because this is, reverend al, the most impactful, substantive bill that congress has ever considered. if we don't do it now, when else will we have this chance? you know, i'm counting on the
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leadership. i've been working with congressional leadership, the biden administration to protect the interests of these schools, and i'm hopeful by the time it comes to the floor that the build back better act will represent a big step for our schools. >> this summer you announced over 100 cosponsors for the institutional grants for new infrastructure, technology, and education hbcu excellence act, otherwise known as the ignite hbcu excellence act. it would invest in infrastructure for hbcus and authorize funds to be used and all aspects of furthering black excellence through education, technology, and research. additionally, the act has co-sponsors from all across the political spectrum. how were you able to bring both sides of the aisles to get on this legislation? >> let me just say that, first of all, education should not be
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a partisan issue. and our schools live in every community or many communities. and many of them are in republican communities. and so everybody has a stake here. when we started the bipartisan hbcu caucus, three goals. first of all, to expand the knowledge base nationally, to educate the public and to educate members of congress and their staff, and then to put together bipartisan legislation that would address some of the problems. and so we've been able to educate members of congress and we have now 101 members on this bill. we have ten sentences on this bill. it is bipartisan. there's a lot of support for it
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because these individuals realize not only the importance of our hbcus, the contributions that we're making to these communities across the country. and so, you know, we want to get it passed. ignite, ignite, ignite. >> all right. congresswoman alma adams, always good to have you with us. thank you for joining us tonight. coming up, music to my ears. the first black composer in the metropolitan opera's 138-year history joins me after the break.
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in the midst of this week's turmoil and disappointment, i was lightened when i saw this, the metropolitan opera here in new york, our largest performing arts institution, reopening after closing its doors to covid last year with a long overdue milestone. its first title from a black composer in its 130-year existence, from an artist that has dramatized our experience for more than 30 years. i'm also pleased to say it's a long time collaborator with one of my longtime collaborators.
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joining me now is jazz artist and composer terence blanchard. his latest album, "absence" is available on blue note records, by the way. brother blanchard, thank you for joining us tonight. it's a treat before we get into this week's big opening at the metropolitan opera, i want to talk about the piece you composed and orchestrating. i know it's named for and based on the book "fire shut up in my bones" from columnist charles blow about his experiences growing up in louisiana. and i understand the words come from filmmaker cassie lemons who directed, among many things, "yves by you" which is a classic. talk us through what reverend with you to inspire you to write
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an entire operatic piece that's a heavy lift and a real artist able to do this. >> thank you. first of all, let me say it's an honor to be on your show, reverend. been a fan of yours for a long time. with charles' book, i think the thing that resonated with me the most is the idea of isolation within our own communities just because we can be a little different. i was never molested like charles was, but i did experience, you know, the solitude of being different in my own community, ostracized a bit. with his success as a writer, my thought was hopefully if some kids were to see this, they could understand and overcome anything. actually, when we premiered it in st. louis a couple years ago, after the premiere i asked charles if we were okay, because i didn't let him see anything,
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he said i just realized that's not me anymore. that statement was a powerful one for me that i hope resonated in the hearts and minds of a lot of our youth today. >> now, you know, i read a lot online. i read "the new york times" piece and then i got it this morning that the sunday story of you. it says this came about as a surprise to you, essentially coming down to the metropolitan opera calling you, telling you that they wanted "fire" to be the first of the 300 odd titles that have been on its stage to have been composed by a black person. in the same article you mentioned black composers in previous eras who deserved the honor but were, of course, denied because of racism. do you feel any of that charge of history when you're orchestrating or conducting this show? >> oh, of course. i mean, you know, my composition
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teacher in new orleans roger dickinson, howard swanson, there's a number of great african-american composers who were definitely more qualified than me to have a piece premiered at the metropolitan opera. i feel like i'm standing on strong shoulders, that's why i made sure this could be the strongest show possible because i don't want to let those souls and spirits down. there's a lot riding on this in terms of our history. one of the beautiful things about this project is that everyone, and, i mean, everyone in this production has taken ownership of this piece. it's almost like it doesn't belong to casey and myself anymore. you know, and that's been a beautiful thing to witness because there's some extremely talented young people that are going to grace the stage at the metropolitan opera on monday.
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>> i hope it's not an insult to say that you're perhaps best known for your film-scoring work with my good friend, director spike lee, going back to "mo better blues" in 1990. what kind of connection do you have to have as an artist to always find something in another artist' work that inspires you? >> i think it boils down to sincerity. i think it boils down to people that are honest about what it is that they're doing, you know. one of the things i like aout spike, i remember seeing "she's got to have it," and i kept thinking i would love to work with someone like that, someone who's driven to the point where he would find the funding to tell his story and he wouldn't shy away from tough topics, you know. and the next thing? >> yes, i'm working with spike and it's been a beautiful relationship for over 30 years
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now where really don't even need to have many conversations about what it is we need to do for the films because i know exactly what he likes and wants. when he puts to get a film, i'm like, oh, my god, he did it again. so i can't let him down. i can't be the weak link in the chain. it's inspiring working with him and he's helped me to grow to this point where you can get to this level of writing an opera that would be at the met. so i'm very thankful and very grateful for our relationship. >> you know, spike and his wife, tonya have made me expand my cultural view over the last 30 years i've known them, and maybe you are going to get me to go to the opera. >> i hope so. i would love to see you there. >> terence blanchard, thank you and good luck on monday's premiere. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. . (man 2) yeah, but we need to go higher. (man 1) higher. (man 2) definitely higher.
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when i saw the picture of thousands of haitians under a bridge with no covering and no support, i knew we must stand and do something to dramatize our support for them, giving human dignity, human rights, and a fair hearing of asylum here. and i went to texas, like i went to texas when they were putting mexican children in cages under last administration, or like i have gone to sudan or rwanda down through the years. and when i saw those border patrol people on horses weaponizing those horses, i said, no, we have to go now. and we got ministers from across the country from reverend freddy hayes, reverend jamal bryant, attorney jennifer jones austin, civil rights leaders like jonathan jackson. and all of us went down. and we prayed with them. and we talked to them through the interpreter, as i said,
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ambassador -- ambassador gas par. and of course, when we got back fox news attacks us and the president and says that president biden has gone full sharpton. he didn't go full sharpton. if he had gone full sharpton they wouldn't have sent any of them back to haiti. they would be saying what do we need to do to deal with their status of asking for asylum. as i said earlier in the show, they qualified for that. but he did go full decency, trying to deal with the fact that he denounced this violent act that happened there at the border when horses were weaponized against people seeking to come in the land of the free and the home of the brave that we told them they were. that is also why at the same time we are fighting to keep and maintain and expand voting rights, so that we can vote
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people out that think preachers' praying ought to be heckled, but people on horses e menacing people looking for a way out -- they ought to be oh, i guess treated like they come from eso countries like the former president called them. maybe we want to vote to keep the hen out -- to keep the fox -- pun intended, out of the hen house. that does it for me. thanks for watch. imsee you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for another live hour of "politics nation." my colleague alicia menendez picks up the news coverage at the top of the hour. and just being sustainable isn't enough. our future depends on regeneration. that's why we're working to not only protect our planet, but restore, renew, and replenish it. so we can all live better
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♪♪ hello, everyone, i'm leashia menendez, we begin with graduality 2.0, donald trump in georgia this hour stumping for former nfl runningback and possible 2022 senate candidate warner. we are not going to be carrying his speech live because of our disagreement with what he states as facts. one thing is clear, he will work to further his own big lie about stolen elections and unproven voter fraud. despite the election audit in maricopa county, arizona, wrapping up and yielding the kind of results no republican should want


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