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around this fall. we also have been told in the last little bit he is preparing a major covid speech, likely as soon as tomorrow to talk about the administration's efforts to battle the coronavirus, and of course, the spotlight will be on this saturday, 20th anniversary of 9/11, which will lead the president to mark the day of sacrifice and also the situation in afghanistan. >> yeah. speaking of 9/11, i accidentally said president bush because of that extraordinary apple documentary we saw on 9/11 that i think americans should be watching this week. jonathan lemire, thanks so much for being with us. go sox, please. >> that does it for us this morning. chris jansing picks up coverage right now. hi there, i am chris jansing, in for stephanie ruhle. it is tuesday, september 7th. here is what's happening. less than an hour from now, president biden will leave the
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white house, headed for the northeast to get a firsthand look at the damage left by hurricane ida. elsie huge parts of new jersey and new york remain decimated by deadly flooding. ida killing at least 45 people in those two states. some swept away by cars, others drowning in their own homes. new disaster declarations mean parts of both states are eligible for federal aid, but even that is fraught with complaints from counties left off the list of those eligible for aid. and down in louisiana which got hit by ida first, more than 400,000 homes are still in the dark, nine days after the storm rolled through, and high temperatures continue to raise the misery and risk. all three regions are at risk of more severe weather in the coming days. we have all of the angles covered. shannon petty piece at the white house, allison barber in new jersey, and some brock in louisiana outside new orleans.
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thank you all for joining this morning. sam, nine days have passed, still hundreds of thousands of people without power. what's going on there, how are people holding up? >> reporter: chris, it is a picture of disparity. driving into new orleans last night, you saw the skyline, benson tower and super dome were lit up. canal street, lights are on. but the second you step out of new orleans and go to some of the outlying parishes, you see blocks and blocks of neighborhoods still in the dark. the city of new orleans now this morning is about 70% restored in terms of power, which is fairly remarkable, when you consider that there was a transmission tower floating down the mississippi river only a matter of days ago. the state of louisiana figures from entergy, largest provider, 370,000 customers without power. more than half the grid is back online for the state. that's all great news.
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there are so many neighbors we have spoken with like here in kenner near the new orleans airport say we can only get by a couple more days like this. it is unfair some are getting power back and we don't have it yet. you mention heat and rain. blistering temperatures last week that easily approached 100 degrees, especially with heat index. monday, parts of the state of louisiana saw rainfall that prompted flash flood warnings, and now again, more rain in the forecast in terms of resources people are looking for. gas line situation has improved a bit. you can find gas if willing to wait a bit. it is food that's still having many folks in dire straights. saw a line yesterday, chris, stretched for two miles for chicken. combine food, gas, electricity, others are a scarce commodity as they're trying to cope. >> a horrible situation. take me to central new jersey where the president will be later today. what's he going to see?
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>> reporter: blocks and blocks of just utter destruction. elsie cars that are in resting places where they've been forced by flood waters, filled, covered in dirt, inside and out. won't just see the destruction, he will smell it too. in addition to flood waters that ida brought, it caused gas explosions, homes to burn. this home is still smoking. you can smell it as you walk by the street. you can also smell some of the mildew that's come from piles of trash that people moved, cleaned out of their homes. on the outside, it looks like trash, none of it is. all are memories left behind by people that experienced this. we talked to one person down the road from here had to be rescued from the roof of his house. he lived here for 21 years. he experienced weather events, said nothing like this.
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at least 27 died in new jersey alone because of hurricane ida, and four people are still missing. that major disaster declaration signed by the president will help six counties in new jersey, but the governor here, other local officials say more counties need to be included, more people need help. when the president is on the ground, things you'll see that you cannot look away are places like this, homes that have been completely reduced to ashes. chris? >> allison barber, thank you. and shannon, president biden visited louisiana last week and used it as an opportunity to talk about infrastructure and need to get in front of climate change. do we expect that again today and does the white house believe that this raft of destructive weather we have seen this year, including fires in california, will give some momentum to his political agenda? >> reporter: it is certainly a recurring theme. we continue to hear from the president and the white house
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linking these severe weather events to climate change and trying to personalize that, and add a human element to what's been a scientific argument and discussion for so long. expect him to talk about that. also, expect him as you mention to use this as an opportunity to talk about his infrastructure plan. there's $500 billion in new spending, he is trying to get it through congress. in new orleans, he talked how it would go to things like levee, water infrastructure, drainage systems. you can hear him talk about that again today. a big part of that spending today the white house hopes is on environmental programs. while the bill has gotten past the senate, it faces a rocky road in the house and as part of the bigger legislative agenda. >> i mentioned that parts of new york and new jersey are covered by the disaster declaration but other parts are not. i talked to the mayor of
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cranford. this was her message to the president. >> our message is you cannot leave us, union county, essex county just off on our own. there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people whose lives have been turned upside down. ten years ago with hurricane irene, which was similar, it was $100 million of damage. in cranford alone, i expect it will reach that as well. >> to state the obvious, fema has its hands full. should people like the mayor expect more help in coming days? >> reporter: i saw that interview yesterday, chris, that you did with the mayor. you could hear the desperation in her voice. i asked a white house official about this. they said damage assessments are continuing. they said there are additional counties that may be designated for more assistance as they complete the assessment, that the full extent has not been
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determined as far as the assistance goes, to expect more for that. and the significance of this disaster declaration, which often has seen a procedural thing, it is heavy for these communities. that's what's going to qualify them to get billions in dollars from fema that so many of them are desperate for. >> shannon petty piece, sam brock, allison barber, thanks. donovan richards is queensboro president in new york city. thank you so much for being with us. wow, you guys were hit so hard. what's it like in queens now? >> reminds me of hurricane sandy. we have been here before, but it is catastrophic on so many levels, the loss of life, and thinking about those whose basements were underwater during the moment, whose livelihoods were effected by this, who lost everything. it has been a tough time, not only being the epicenter of the
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pandemic, but now to face continuation of climate change here in the borough of queens has been tough. >> i want to ask short and long term. start with what you're facing immediately. what needs to be done in queens to get back where you need to be, are you confident that you as a borough and citizens will have money to help get there? >> i want to thank president biden. i'm pretty confident we're going to get, it is going to take a lot of work, all hands on deck to ensure resources and checks are put immediately into the hands of those impacted, but also we have to think about those who are displaced, federal assistance, housing vouchers will be key getting people in permanent housing that won't be able to return. >> and science tells us this will happen again. >> how do you protect places
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like queens. does the infrastructure show that washington understands what's needed or is that just a bandaid on a disaster? >> let me start with we got about a $2 billion investment through the city going back a few years ago. and what we recognize is where the places, projects were completed, they did not have flooding. it is clear that infrastructure investment is critical. this is why i can't understand why senators manchin and sinema are dragging their feet on the infrastructure bill. i requested them to come to queens, look into faces of families that lost not only their belongings, lost human life. now is not a time to play politics with people's lives. we need the infrastructure bill passed, we need 3.5 trillion to come into localities like queens to ensure infrastructure can be upgraded. the only way we'll be able to combat climate change. >> you point to the cost in both
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lives and money. do you feel that everybody in queens is accounted for now, that you have a handle on how many people were lost, and do you have a dollar number now, do you know what the impact of the storm was on queens? >> we lost over a dozen lives. by god's grace, won't continue to see that number grow. the governor put that price tag at the moment somewhere around $50 million in damage, and that number is going to continue to go up as fema surveys communities and the state and local government can do that as well. i don't want to put a price tag on it at the moment because i would need to get more facts on it, but we know that hurricane sandy, for instance, cost the city billions. and an action will only continue, we're only going to continue to see inflation around these disasters if we don't
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combat climate change now. taxpayers will be on the loop for this, we'll need to continue to build that infrastructure to ensure that we're not here again and to ensure that residents feel safe. >> donovan richards, so many folks in queens have a long road ahead. thanks for taking time to talk to us, bring us up to date on what's happening. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much, chris. we turn to texas. couple of big developments making headlines there this morning. at noon, governor abbott will end a months-long standoff with democrats and sign his election integrity bill into law. at the same time, the new abortion law is getting push back from the justice department. attorney general merrick garland saying he will explore all options to challenge the law in court. i want to bring in julia ainsley that covers the justice department for nbc. also victoria defran chis
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cosoto. thanks to you both. when garland is exploring all options, do we know exactly what he is talking about? >> well, in short at least a simple thing he can do, he laid it out in a statement yesterday, he can use something called the face act and protect women seeking abortion and abortion providers from any physical harm or damage, if someone is doing damage to an abortion clinic, he is reiterating the justice department has that tool to protect those people. what's more complicated is what they can do in court. garland said he put all u.s. attorneys on watch to try to explore all options, see what they can do to go against the law to challenge it, but right now it is complicated because there's not been a lawsuit, a civil lawsuit that uses the new texas abortion law to sue a clinic or anyone that might be affiliated with a woman's abortion after six weeks. in part, that's because most abortion clinics stopped, they
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complied with the law, didn't want to be sued. they could have been sued many times over, that $10,000 limit, and they could have really run a lot of risk to being able to do their operations again. right now, it is hard for them to find a lawsuit that could actually see its way through to a point they could then challenge results of the lawsuit in federal court. right now, remains to be seen what they'll do. they're exploring all options. as we know, the president asked nancy pelosi to look at legislative options as well. >> meantime, victoria, the election integrity rule back rolls -- it targets harris county, a democratic strong hold that includes houston. what's the net effect now that it will be signed in law, do disenfranchised voters and democrats have options except waiting to see what happens on the federal level? >> right, the option at this point, chris, given we are in
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post section five repeal of the vra is to proactively sue. we have already sued in two lawsuits, even before the law was signed. one out of austin, one out of san antonio. to give you an idea how chilling this is, in terms of the voting ability of folks across texas, but especially in urban areas like harris county, was no longer have the ability to have 24 hour voting, something that helps those folks that don't work the 9 to 5 jobs, blue collar workers, voters of color in texas. we also know that there's now restriction on sending out mail in ballot. you have to specifically request it. we see additional restrictions in terms of voter id, and see the and the of partisan poll watchers to have the right -- this is chilling, this opens the door to intimidation at polling places.
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at once, we see roll back of ability for folks to more easily vote, and at the same time, opens the door for intimidation. >> speaking of opening the door, a lot of folks say it opens the door across the country. you look at the abortion law, election law, do you see a pattern, victoria, where texas is laying ground work for other states to follow their lead? >> i do. it is policy 101. liberal states look at liberal states, conservative at conservative ones, everything is bigger in texas. texas has become the bull wert of conservative policy in the state. we have seen in this legislative session, sessions actually, we had special sessions, a very hard right firm of any legislative body in the nation, and we see states already like florida taking notes. states across the south. what we're looking at right now
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of what happened in texas in the last couple of months is something that we're going to see in terms of a domino effect over the next year. >> always say when california sneezes, the rest of the country catches a cold. that may be the way it rolls out with texas in terms of conservative states across the country. something we'll be watching very closely and i know you'll join us. thank you both very much. coming up, busy airports, packed gatherings, fueling new covid concerns as the world health warns of a new variant already detected in every state. what you need to know next. as many kids head back to school today, we are live in one district. health experts point to it as an unexpected leader in the nation when it comes to covid protocols. you are not going to want to miss that. going to want to miss that. i'm so lucky to get him back.
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developing this morning, brand new polling that shows majority of americans support vaccine mandates, both in schools and for businesses. the latest "the washington post" abc news poll shows 59% of americans say teachers, school staff should be required to be vaccinated. that includes majority of democrats and independent voters, though most republicans oppose it. even as there's growing concern of trajectory of covid with half the u.s. population still not
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vaccinated, look at what the holiday weekend looked like. massive crowds gathering at sport stadiums, at airports as well. daily covid infections now more than four times higher than they were last labor day. the situation so bad, growing number of republican governors are begging people in their state to get vaccinated. >> we've got to get vaccinated for all, not just for you, but for everybody. we've got to do this. we can stop a lot of this terrible, terrible, terrible carnage. >> carnage. strong words there. after surpassing 40 million covid cases over labor day weekend, the u.s. is averaging more than 1500 deaths each day for the first time since march. joining us now, heidi pris balance a, an infectious disease
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physician, and joyce vance, professor at alabama school of law and former u.s. attorney. good morning to you all. detroit, heidi, unveiling this ambitious new plan to keep students and teachers safe this school year. a lot of folks are looking at it. what exactly are they doing? >> reporter: yeah, chris. detroit is one of the most underserved, chronically underfunded school systems in the nation. so much stacked against it. it may be about to show us all how it is done. started last week with every student and every staff member offered a test once a week inside these buildings. within 24 to 48 hours, lab tests come back. they go out to a lab in ann arbor, and the school will be able to use that to weed out not only students that may be showing symptoms but the asymptomatic can infect a classroom or school before people know about it.
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here's what school officials are saying about hopes for the ambitious program. >> often times, detroit public school district is not looked to as a leader. i really think this is a space we have shown leadership, not only in our academic reform and work we're doing there, but in safety, our approach to covid safety. i think there are things other districts could learn from us. >> reporter: and chris, the question here is why are so many districts not doing this when detroit is doing this against all of the odds. the cdc says that school districts would be doing this, the governmental oh indicated $10 million for school districts to do this, yet it isn't happening in other parts of the state. we know there was a big outbreak in the spring due to student athletes. the city is now mandating all athletes have to be doing this.
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vaccination rates are low, 40%. school officials say there's not a choice. they say parents, call your principals. i'm sorry to principals, how are you spending that 10 million. this is important as you send unvaccinated children back into school rooms with a more transmissible, potentially more dangerous variant, chris. >> that's a very good question. how are you spending the dollars. so there's one city, they're doing what the money is meant for, it is one city. there are a handful of governors that banned mask mandates in schools, covid outbreaks forced a thousand schools to close across 35 states. covid hospitalizations up five fold among children and teens, and kids under 12 can't get the vaccine. assuming your school district isn't being proactive, many of
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them are not, what's your best advice to parents to keep kids safe. what can they control? >> i think that testing as heidi mentioned is an underutilized tool in the pandemic in the united states. it is one of the layers schools can add, parents could add, access to rapid tests that are now available, you can find them in cvs. get them in many of the pharmacies around you. so you want to layer that with the math game. still talk to your school about ventilation. that's an important part of keeping kids safe, making sure that all the kids that can get vaccinated in most schools can be vaccinated can and do get vaccinated. it will make a difference in the amount of virus kids are exposed to. those are the layers. part of it is just the will and the resources. not all parents are able to
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afford the different things. this is where it has to be cooperation between the school district and parents and state government. >> money has gone out for that. joyce, the battle over vaccines, wearing masks in schools is playing out in several states. we talked the last couple of days, 15 staff members in miami-dade county public schools died from covid in the past ten days. i was talking to irwin redlener who is looking whether there could be legal action against governors that say no to mask and vaccine mandates. take a listen. >> i am furious that we are letting governors get away with these crazy regulations, efforts to stop districts and states from enforcing basic principles we know are scientifically sound. this has got to be some level of criminal negligence on the part of the governors who are
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promulgating this nonsense, keeping places from keeping organizations and places and locations from doing the right thing to protect their students and their teachers, and i have spoken to some legal counsel about how much immunity do governors actually have from getting sudan more, being criminally responsible for policies that are killing people. >> key question. could governors face legal culpability, criminal or civil? >> it is easier for governors to impose mask mandates or even for local officials to impose vaccine mandates, something the supreme court approved in a 115-year-old case, jacobson. it is more difficult to compel them to take action or hold them accountable when they don't. first off, it is important that we not conflate criminal and civil penalties. it is unlikely criminal
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negligence on behalf of governors would exist here, absent some extraordinary circumstances where perhaps we had a governor engaged in profit earring while making the vaccine unavailable. haven't seen something like that. theoretically could be the case. if governors are sued civilly, there are federal and state possibilities. but governors are often cloaked in immunity or quasi immunity, how it would play out would be early dismissal of cases. we hear a lot about motions to dismiss. that's a point in civil, legal proceedings where defendants in this case governors would say even if everything the plaintiffs say in the complaint is true, even if all their allegations are well pled, this case can't proceed against me because legally i am immune, and i am afraid that's what we would see for the most part in these cases, early motions to dismiss, even if they survived that
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stage, there would be a lot of contentious questions on causation. i think the ballot box is more likely a vehicle for holding elected officials who behaved irresponsibly accountable. >> once again, you have to vote. doctor, what we're seeing driven by the delta variant, which is almost all of the cases, right, that we have now, i want to ask about growing concerns about the new mu variant. now present in 49 states. only nebraska hasn't seen it. 39 countries. early lab data suggests it could be vaccine resistant. labs are not real life but how big a threat could this be, how concerned should we be? >> chris, the new variant was first discovered in january, 2021. the amount has been increasing. again, low levels in the u.s. here, 2,000 cases so far. w.h.o. ranks it as a variant of
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interest. means that the laboratory analysis shows it may have features that allow it to evade some antibodies from prior infection or vaccinations, some medications that are depending on immune response, but not yet a variant of concern. we don't have clinical data what impact it has. one thing i will set people's mind at ease, so far doesn't seem to be outcompeting the delta variant, the predominant variant in the united states. we always have to be looking on the horizon. one way to stop them is stop transmission. images you showed of the very crowded college football stadiums in areas that don't have high vaccination rates make me hyperventilate, make me worry about again that transmission that could bring the new variant. >> no mask mandates there either. thanks to you all. still to come on this
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tuesday. we are live in doha, secretary of state blinken working to get americans out of afghanistan. what he says the taliban is promising this morning. what he says the taliban is promising this morning
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this morning with around 100 americans and thousands of allies stuck in afghanistan, secretary of state blinken and defense secretary austin are in qatar, working to keep evacuations going. qatar is the base for diplomatic
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negotiations, a country that has been central to the evacuation missions. in afghanistan, blinken says we are working with the taliban to get more americans out. >> we also engaged with the taliban on this topic, including in recent hours. they said that they will let people with travel documents freely depart. we will hold them to that. >> raf sanchez is on the ground in doha, qatar. four americans were evacuated by land, the first over land evacuations. what else are we hearing from the secretaries for the plan to get everybody out that wants to leave? >> reporter: chris, a lot of focus this morning on an airport in the north of afghanistan. we've known a couple of days there were charter flights trying to take off from there, but the taliban were refusing to let them out. there's been a lot of confusion here.
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over the weekend, representative mike mccall from texas said it was a hostage situation at mostly sunny ar a sharif. we finally got details from secretary blinken. he confirmed there are a number of americans trying to get out on those flights, but the problem is those americans are mixed in with afghans that don't have travel documents. the taliban is not allowing those flights to take off at the moment. a lot is murky. this is what people were concerned about, when u.s. troops left afghanistan, the americans who remained behind would effectively be at the mercy of the taliban as to whether they could leave or not, and the taliban and government of afghanistan now, they can hide behind bureaucratic procedures, saying we're not stopping anyone from leaving, just making sure everybody has the proper travel documents. as you said, secretary blinken says they're in touch with the taliban, even as early
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as this morning, trying to work through this issue. also in kabul we have seen some of the largest protests we have seen in the city since it fell to the taliban on august 15th, both men and women on the streets protesting against the taliban. chris? >> raf sanchez, thank you so much. appreciate that update. there's new fallout in the wake of former new york governor andrew cuomo's resignation. the head of the largest lbgtq advocacy group in the country has been fired. yet the latest person that reportedly helped cuomo do damage control amid his sexual harassment scandal. the human rights campaign says its now former president, alfonso david, violated his contract, was removed by a vote of the board. new york attorney general report accused david of trying to help discredit a cuomo accuser. in response, david says the group's board unjustly provided notice of termination. he is vowing to bring a legal
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challenge. still to come, an nbc news exclusive interview. first reaction from the woman whose allegations of sexual assault led to bill cosby's initial conviction in 2018. she's talking about that conviction being overturned on procedural grounds. andrea constand speaking out the first time about his release from prison. >> i was really shocked. i was really shocked, disappointed. >> what does it say about the american justice system? >> that it is flawed. >> that it is flawed
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to speak with her. i can't even imagine. she went through the conviction and now this. >> back in 2018 i spoke with her in an interview then that was deeply personal, raw, revealing. she shared the story that became a dateline hour. things changed with the supreme court of pennsylvania decision and bill cosby's release. she has a serenity and renewed purpose. she won't obsess over things she can't control, including bill cosby. shared thoughts about when she heard news about the court's decision. >> i was really shocked. i was really shocked. disappointed. >> what does it say about the american justice system? >> that it is flawed. >> they found the district attorney had promised bill cosby
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he would never be criminally charged, though he made no formal agreement. when cosby was charged ten years later, it was a violation of his due process rights. >> how can the district attorney enforce a decision on a back room handshake? how can you give any credibility to that? >> all the time you put in, the years you put in, what you put your family through on this journey. i wonder if -- i might feel like wow, was it even worth it. >> i have come way too far to go back to that place to wonder whether it is all worth it or to have regrets. it was worth it. but it was worth it because i didn't feel alone. i had a whole community, a whole army of women and other survivors, strangers, family, friends who were right there with me. >> in her new book, the moment, she writes that she just wanted
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to be believed. >> bill cosby walks free but it doesn't change the fact that my testimony was believed. >> why did you want to write this book? >> i had a story to tell, but also it was what was going to bring me true healing. >> she found that healing in a new home she moved to in the countryside outside toronto. for her own health, she tries to avoid news about bill cosby. but she couldn't miss this scene after cosby arrived home. >> when you watched him celebrate, how did that make you feel? >> disgusting. didn't surprise me, given the level of the arrogance and having no remorse during the time he was incarcerated, absolutely zero remorse for what he did to me. >> he has said he will never show remorse because he in his words never did anything wrong. >> he's a sexually violent
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predator who basically was let out of jail. >> cosby said he is ready to go on tour again. >> waiting, waiting, waiting for the okay, for my fans. >> i don't really care but anybody that gives him a platform to speak, to joke, rape is not a joke. >> she knows cosby has defenders. >> fill essentially a ra schaad made headlines with a tweet after his release that said a terrible wrong is being righted, a miscarriage of justice is corrected. >> it is disappointing to hear somebody who is in such a powerful position herself not to support survivors. >> after backlash, she wrote my remarks were in no way directed towards survivors of sexual assault. i vehemently oppose sexual
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violence. >> good. i'm really happy to hear that. >> would you speak to her if she wanted to learn more about you or talk to you? >> sure. yeah. why not. >> andrea is concerned what's happened in her case could have a chilling effect on survivors of sexual misconduct. >> as i sit here today, i want to send a message to not let this deter you from coming forward, from getting the peace and healing and closure that you need. >> she's running a foundation called hope healing and transformation, with an app for survivors containing research, legal assistance, and a holistic healing program. >> i will fight. i will be a voice for the change that is needed, whatever country, state, wherever i'm needed, i will be in service there to fight. >> andrea understands a lot of
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republicans are hoping this could give them a shot to regain political power in a state where they're outnumbered by democrats 2:1. steve kornacki is at the big board. what are you watching for in this final week? >> take you through here again just to backdrop in california we all know in extremely democratic state in 2018, when gavin newsom was elected governor, here were the results, a 24-point victory for gavin newsom over his republican opponent then in the 2020 presidential election, joe biden beat donald trump in california by 29 points. you got to go back all the way to 1988 to find a republican presidential candidate who won california, bush sr. in '88 or came within ten points in california so that's how blue california is, that's the backdrop for this. the polling in the early part of this summer, mid part of this summer was suggesting this was a competitive recall election and the more recent polling in the
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last week is starting to trend back in the other direction, keep or remove. a bunch of double digit for keep pollers that have come in the last week. if you average together everything that's out there right now in this polling keep gavin newsom, don't recall gavin newsom, right now leads on average by 11 points, a significant jump from about two weeks ago, so a solid lead here for newsom's side for keeping newsom. california actually 18 years ago had a governor who was recalled, gray davis, at this same point, a week out from gray davis' recall election back in 2003, it was double-digit remove in the polling, and gray davis was in fact removed. so now it's double-digit for keep in this polling. there is a week to go. we will see what happens. the world is full of surprises. if newsom were to be recalled in
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this election next week, simultaneously voters are voting on a giant list of candidates to replace newsom. whoever gets the most votes on the list would become the governor immediately. this is the polling average right now, these are not all of the candidates, these are some of the candidates but the headline here is larry elder who is a conservative comment nator, he leads the way right now in this very crowded field here in the replacement race. if it ever came to it, if gavin newsom did get recalled next week larry elder looks to be the front-runner. >> steve kornacki, thank you so much. >> you got it. >> that? wraps up this hour. i'm chris jansing in for stephanie ruehl. hallie jackson picks it up next. president biden is scheduled to leave the white house any minute now and going to tour storm damage in the northeast. stay with us. and our customers rated us #1 for network quality
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