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♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ good afternoon. i'm chris jansing in for ayman mohyeldin. we begin with disasters unfolding along the gulf coast and in the west. the misery just keeps spreading in louisiana as people who survived hurricane ida are now facing long lines for food, water, gas and ice and other necessities that they need to survive. as they wait in line, they are dealing with a sweltering 100-plus-degree heat index adding to the danger for nearly a million people still without power, but there is a glimmer of hope as the power companies serving new orleans says it has restored electricity to some customers in the eastern part of the city, but for many more, it
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will still likely be weeks before power is fully restored. and the white house announced a short time ago that president biden will visit louisiana on friday to tour the damage. and about 2,000 miles away in california, a desperate battle sunday way right now to try to save south lake tahoe as thousands of firefighters are struggling to deal with a series of wildfires burning across that state and the caldor fire's growth now heading to the nevada state line forcing people to flee the region just before the labor day weekend. we're going to begin this hour with the aftermath of hurricane ida. joining us to start off our coverage nbc news correspondent sam brock in la place, louisiana, roughly 30 miles northwest of new orleans and nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster in the big's. shaq, you're one of the places seeing long lines and lots of people waiting to get supplies they need just for basic survival. tell us about the situation as you've been observing it today.
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>> reporter: yeah. it's just a wait. it's a wait for basic thingsings basic things that people need considering the high temperatures that we have and of course the problem of the lack of electricity and no idea when that electricity will come back. that's leading to the lines like the ones you're seeing behind me and i've been telling you we've been here all day at this grocery store and this one just ran out of ice. people were waiting it and that's what the manager said this morning was the top item, the thing that brought the most people in. the ice that they need for medicine and for supplies to help keep some of their food refrigerated. i want you to listen to some of my conversations in line so you can hear in their own words about the struggle that they have been going through. >> the lines were just astronomical. they run from what seems like a mile almost. >> it's really uncomfortable, but we just hope that the city and entergy can get it together
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for the people. >> reporter: you get an idea of the cascading problems. you know, one thing that folks told me is as they wait to line to get in the store they will pick up some ice and then they are using that to put in their refrigerator, but they need to now power their generator keeping their refrigerator working and they need to go about 100 miles out to get gas because that's the only way they can do that and wait hours in line for gas. you get the idea it's problem after problem. all will be solved or at least partially alleviated by the idea of the power being restored of the still no word on when exactly that will happen, but until that happens you're going to continue to see lines in the city, and you're going to see that struggle for basic, basic supplies, chris. >> it's something that folks all across louisiana who were hit by ida are dealing with, sam. tell us what you're seeing where you are in la place. >> reporter: certainly very similar sights to what shaq was just discussing. entergy says they have now evaluated a little over a third of all of its infrastructure.
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they have found 2,000 or so power poles that were ruptured. 422 damaged transformers, so when we hear about the glimmers of hope which is, of course, a great thing that an eastern new orleans they are seeing more power come on or at least a small bit of it, we're really looking at, you know, a much longer timeline maybe than what many folks would hope because entergy says it's going to be about three days until they have an estimation as to when power will come back. they have two options right now, they can try to restore the transformer lines but they can also create a grid island for the area of new orleans and focus on people getting people the power back right in the population center. one other thing. we were driving down the highway where i am right now. path of destruction, roofs crumpled and power lines down and we saw a ton of cars. didn't know what it was. we assumed initially it was gas. we've been seeing that all day. look at this video. 300 to 400 cars wrapped around
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about a mile and a half to two miles of land. we put it on our google maps. it would equate to a roughly 25 or 30-minute walk. those cars are all waiting there for hours for louisiana national guard to hand out food, water, ice and tarps. much of the conversation that shaq was having a second ago, whether you're seeing the pop-ups or national guard or nonprofit groups that offer something that people need, the demand is off the charts where people are just coming from every single direction, even standing in the parking lot right now, chris. people walked by that said we want to tell you how badly we're in need right now. they want to offer testimonials and that's going on everywhere. and i would say lastly this area where i'm stand right now had more rescues than any other place in the state of louisiana. 800 rescues, according to the sheriff here. if the eye of ida did not come right over la place it came darn close, and it does look like some sort of natural disaster just came on down and inflicted
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this morgues of louisiana. it's so upsetting to see this. you describe the temperature, chris. if you're outside for more than five or ten minutes you're sweating. that's how hot it is right now, and these poor people have no electricity and, of course, as always seems to happen, this storm has affected many areas that are blue collar, people that don't necessarily have the resources to get out of town and get a hotel room. that's what we're looking at right now. very sobering and hoper we want power to come back on sooner rather than later. >> thanks to both of you. it also doesn't help that according to the cdc just 41% of louisiana residents are vaccinated, and in some of the low-lying parishes dealing with the brunt of this disaster that number is even lower. joining us now to talk about it, dr. patel, chief medical officer at the university of medical center in new orleans. he's also a specialist anyonefectous diseases and critical care medicine. so you kind of cover all of the boxes that we're concerned about
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right now. let's start with the whole idea that you already have a covid problem across louisiana. how concerned are you, dr. patel, that hurricane ida could end up becoming a superspreader event? >> well, i'm absolutely concerned. i think, you know, when you get groups of people together, congregation, that's where covid spreads, right, and so when people are sheltering and when they are in different environments or in a shelter or a group home or a group living situation, i think there's a deep concern for a spread of covid in that setting. >> reporter: so that's not the only concern obviously. you have people in extreme heat. we just heard from sam brock of you go outside for five or ten minutes. it can feel overwhelming. those folks are not going to get air conditioning back any time soon. clear, clean drinking water in short supply in many cases. i could go on and on and on. people trying to clean up that. often results in injuries. are you red for what might be coming in, and are you seeing some of it already? >> we are red, and we are seeing
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some of it. i mean, this hospital was built after katrina with some. lessons of katrina in mind, and so our situation is that we are staffed for dealing with trauma, with burns, with injuries that people experience after trying to clean up from a hurricane or a storm. south louisiana gets a lot of storms, and so we are used to this sort of event. i think the challenge point is the covid pandemic, which superimposes, you know, another complex layer on top of this routine natural disaster. >> so when you take all these layers including covid in the heat, what's your best advice to folks who are out there trying to deal with a horrific situation frankly? >> well, i think a lot of it is pre-planning right, and so in the setting of natural disaster prone state we want to make sure that people are planned and have a good plan in-mile-per-hour. now that the disaster has already hit, taking common sense precautions to prevent a further injury, right, so trying to make sure that when you're cleaning
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things up you're not using power equipment or power tools without protection, without protective gear and then, again, when you're dealing with the pandemic, doing things like staying masked, staying socially distant and vaccinating obviously can help a lot. >> we know a lot of hospitals have been overwhelmed by the covid cases. we know certainly not just in louisiana but all throughout the region and across the country for that matter. doctors, nurses, other medical professionals are exhausted. do you, first of all, is there room at the inn for folks who may need to be admitted and how is your staff doing because many of them, i'm sure, are worried about their own homes, their own families. >> absolutely. our staff has been heroic throughout this pandemic and throughout this disaster. i mean, i think they have stepped up. today, for example, we switched out our activation teams. we had another team come in today, and -- and this is despite them having their own challenges, as you mentioned. they are leaving their homes and they are leaving their families and may not have electricity and may have damage to their homes
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but they are coming in and they are stepping up to provide care for our community. they know that our community depends on us, and that they are here to serve of, and so there's a lot of actually hugs and cheers as staff came in and, know, despite the grim reality of the situation on the ground outside of the city, this hospital serves as a beacon for those who need care. that's what we do. >> doctor, thank you so much for taking time away from your busy day to talk to us, and our best to everybody there who i know have a lot of challenges ahead. we appreciate you. happening right now in california, meantime, fire crews are scrambling to protect vulnerable homes and businesses from the caldor fire that's raging near lake tahoe. right now, officials say, the blaze is only 20% contained, but also it has scorched more than 319 square miles. that is larger than the entire city of new york city, and i'm talking about all five boroughs. experts are warning this fire could be a preview of what's to come and trying to fully control
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it may be next to impossible. one official from the u.s. forest service told this to the "new york times," quote, you can save particular areas or particular homes, but the fire is pretty much going to do what it's going to do until the weather shifts. joining me now from south lake tahoe, california, nbc's jacob ward. jacob, that was really sobering when i read it today. it just shows you in a situation like to you have a fire that is so scary, so destructiving tell us what's going on and how it compares to fires we've seen there in the past. >> well, chris, the fire fighting efforts that have been honed here in california over the decades are entirely based on the assistance that the topography gives firefighters. you can rely typically on the geography of this state to help you in some ways and hurt new some ways travel. additionally something like the vale you see beyond me here is a help to firefighters this kind of geography can stop a fire,
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especially about it gets up above the tree line. trouble is we're standing in a place right now echo summit that should in theory have been that kind of gap. it's mostly granite around us, but, unfortunately, the winds that we're currently feeling, that i'm feeling currently at my back caused the embers to jump long distances and that's why we see these stand-alone fires like the ones you see beyond me. it comes out of nowhere when embers touch down and then because the fuel is so dry, the ventilation here is so low in moisture, it starts like that, and suddenly you have a fire that is more or less inaccessible to any kind of heavy equipment and is only really a stone's throw from dozens of homes that we can see here in the valley below us. all of this, of course, is working against the efforts of fire fighters to keep this fire off of lake tahoe. just a few miles in that direction is where that fabled place begins, and that basin all of it is in between now. two fireworks the caldor and tamarac fire that are trying to
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join hands right here where we're standing and if they come together that could spell disaster. right now, chris, firefighters are absolutely focused on trying to keep the flames off of the shores of lake tahoe because if the fire gets all the way to the lake, it will be the first time in modern history that that has ever happened. chris? >> the danger from the fire, the air quality that goes even beyond where the fire, is jacob ward, you stay safe out there. thank you so much for that report. coming up, new until c. just announced in the death of elijah mcclain two years after the teen was stopped by police, put in a chokehold and injected with a powerful sedative. texas and their new ban on abortion before many women even know they are pregnant. what happens next on "msnbc
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similar restrictions in the past. so texas could provide a road map for other states also looking to effectively end abortion and escalates the threat to lowe rowe. joining me now is nbc correspondent julia an israeli. give me a sense of the scope of this law and why it's so different. >> reporter: well, it's so different, chris, because it allows people the chance to sue in civil court if they find that someone who they are not even connected to some connection to an abortion. so let me walk you through that. that means that as a member of a residents of texas you could sue an uber driver who took someone to an abortion clinic to have a procedure there. it can be that disconnected. so rather than previous laws that look to criminally charge abortion prove vieders, doctors who performed abortion after a certain number of weeks, that just gives people the tools to go get these civil penalties in courts, and you can get up to
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$10,000 by suing someone. i heard someone today say it's essentially like enabling bouncing hunters on abortion, so this is a different way that we've seen done in the past. the supreme court did not stop it as they could have last night, and so it went into effect, and right now effectively abortions are completely banned in the state of texas because of this six-week rule. >> julia an israeli, thank you for that. for more on think want this bring in jeffrey rosen, president and ceo of the national constitution center and professor of the george washington university law school. that's for being with us. this law went into effect because the supreme court did not respond to an emergency request filed by abortion rights advocates so what now? >> well, the court could step in at any point and it might, but the fact that it hasn't it very significant. it takes four justices to agree to a case so we know that there weren't four votes to stop a law clearly inconsistent with "roe
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v. wade." roe says you can have an abortion until fetal viability which is 22 to 24 weeks. this is the most restrictive abortion law in the country, banning abortion at six weeks. now the court will hear a big case from mississippi later that bans abortion at 15 weeks so then it may speak decisively about the future of r o'but the fact that the procedural posture is so complicating because it's hard to know who it's being forced against suggest it could be a road map for other states trying to ban abortion before the court has spoken clearly in the mississippi case. hugely significant. again, things could change in any day. the court might step in, but the fact that it hasn't is not promising for those who are concerned about the future of "roe v. wade." >> yeah. we were looking at pictures of the members of the supreme court. obviously president trump appointed three of those justices, folks who he believed
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or he said would -- would help overturn "roe v. wade." look, there are a lot of organizations that have worked literally for decades for this moment. they believe now that they have what they need to really overturn roh moo-hyun. could they be right? >> yes, they could be right. the court can do a lot of things and in the specific case it might narrow roe without formally overturning it and it could reach a compromised decision but the fact this law is going into effect, a banning as you were saying, 80% to 90% of women in texas who tend to have abortions during the first six weeks preventing them from having abortions suggests that this court may well be inclined to very dramatically narrow the scope of abortion rights. we'll know decisively by the end of this term. the court may not rule decisively until june but as an early sign this is not promising.
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>> meantime, as we look at this texas law the attorney general says he doesn't think the supreme court has the right tonight convenient. in fact, he wrote this. this court cannot expunge the law itself. rather, it can enjoin only enforcement law. he went ton to say government officials explicitly don't enforce the law. explain what he means and what's the significance of this. >> usually if you want to stop a law from going into effect, you sue the government because it's the government that's preventing you from doing something. this law is designed to make a suit against a government official impossible because the people being punished are private individuals as you were describing. uber drivers or doctors and so forth, so the fact that it's not the government formally that is actually stopping the abortions from taking place is that kind of tricky legal technicality that is hugely significant because it in effect prevents the law from easily being challenged in federal court. that's why the initial suit that
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was filed was against the state officials who were allowing the law to go into effect even though they knew that it violated row. basically the court could duck this question under the technicality that they don't have jurisdiction. they could just cut through this technicality and say this is clearly inconsistent with row. its practical effect is to ban abortions and we're not going to let this happen but it's a very clever strategy for the anti-abortion movement to make the law very hard to challenge in court. >> jeffrey rosen, always good to have you on the program. thank you so much. >> next, the taliban in talks today to get the kabul airport up and running again. what it means for the 100-plus americans still stranded in afghanistan. plus, the results of a brand-new covid study showing just how effective masks are. why one researchers calls it a nail in the coffin for any arguments against masking up. you're watching "msnbc reports." you're watching "msnbc reports."
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elijah mcclain. the 23-year-old black man was in a neck restraint and injected with a sedative in a denver suburb, stopped as he was walking home from the store, according to a city investigation. all five are charged with manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide. there are 32 charges in all. some of mcclain's last words, i'm just different, have become a rallying cry at protests in his name. joining me now nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez and reverend al sharpton, host of "politics nation" and president of the national action network. gabe, talk to me a little bit about these charges, and is it unusual that not just the officers but also the paramedics are charged in this case? >> chris, it's very unusual, and you'll remember that this case actually, you know, elijah mcclain died in 2019, in late 2019 but it wasn't until the death, the murder of george floyd the following year that this case really began to get
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national attention as more and more people took to the streets and more and more people protested, and no charges were filed initially, but that increased pressure did essentially reopen the investigation, and so now, you know, this -- this is a result that had been -- that is welcomed by elijah mcclain's family. such a heartbreaking case, chris. this young man 23 years old while walking back from a convenience store was stopped by police, and his family had said that he real he no reason to be stopped, and on top that have he was wrestled to the ground and, yes, these paramedics are now being charged because police say that they injected elijah mcclain with that powerful sedative ketamine that police say contributed to his death. chris, i also want to mention that we have just heard a response from the police union which just released a statement and still despite this 32-count
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indictment has called a response to this case, quote, a hysterical overreaction and the aurora police union says our officers did nothing wrong, the union maintains and sadly mr. mcclain died due to a combination of exertion due to his decision to violently arrest and a pre-existing heart condition and the family and many activists involved in the case say that's completely outrageous saying he should not have been stopped in the first place. certainly a very emotional case, and, again, now the breaking developments that five officers and paramedics now charged with various charges. chris? >> so, rev, i want to get your take on the significance of these charges but also that statement by the police association. >> well, i think the significance is that had it not been for the family and the activists there in aurora, there would not have probably been a
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case because the governor gave this to a special prosecutor, the attorney general did the case and it was felt as it is in many cases that i've been involved in, that if you leave it to the local prosecutors who have this kind of bonding relationship with local police, they will not do a real investigation and when we see this not only indict the police officers but the paramedics, i think it's because of how the case was handled, because of the diligence and pressure of local activists that stayed on it. yes, it was given some oxygen by the george floyd movement that all of us were involved in, but they stayed on it locally, and i think that this is -- is a thing that shows that the pressure does matter. we must have a society where you don't need pressure to get equal justice. to think a young man goes to a convenience store to get ice tea for his brother and he gets
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killed unarmed, given a sedative that he should never have been given by paramedics, and you have to do all of this to just get an indictment and then now the police union has the contempt for the loss of human life, blaming him on being killed by police saying i can't breathe, i'm just different. it shows what goes on in this country too often, and that's why we need national federal law to stop this. >> you know, rev, i was taken by the fact this a lawyer for in mcclain's father said that he, mr. mosely wept, he wept when he heard the news about the indictments today. what does justice even look like here? he was never accused of doing anything wrong when he was stopped. he wasn't doing anything wrong. >> no. justice would have been -- you
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can't bring his life back but it will bring justice to his family that his death will be used to treat others that break the law in law enforcement, we need to have law enforcement protect the elijah mcclains, not kill them. here's a young man suspected is of what, walking home? yes, he had on a covering because it is cold in colorado and because he was walking home and the color of his skin he could be killed and backed upped by paramedics that would overmedicate him, this is the fear that too many lives in our community, too many families have, so when elijah mcclain's father wept, he wept with the kind of demonstration that too many of our families have because it reminds them of the pain of losing your son and it
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gives them relief that at least this time he may get justice. you still have to have a trial and face a jury. we just went true george floyd and other cases, and it wasn't until the very end that we knew then that the policemen would be convicted so this is far from over, but at least we have a beginning. >> again, that breaking news. five people charged in his death. thank you so much, rev. thank you, gabe gutierrez. we appreciate it. let's turn now to afghanistan because there's a lot of news still coming out of there. we know that there is renewed hope for an estimated 200 americans and thousand of a gan allies left behind with the taliban in talks to reopen the kabul airport as they navigate control of the country with underlying threats from isis-k. the pentagon today announcing that the defense secretary will travel to the gulf next week and acknowledging the possibility of future coordination with the taliban against isis.
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joining me now nbc new correspondent raf sanchez live from doha, qatar and courtney kuby is live in washington. i know you have information on the reopening of the airport. what can you tell us? >> chris, a source familiar with the matter tells us that a qatari technical team flew into kabul today for talks with the taliban about what it's going to take to get hamid karzai international airport up and running again, and this really matters to the u.s. for exactly that reason you just said. the biden administration needs that airport open so it can start getting both americans and afghan allies out. there is no timeline right now for when the airport might reopen, and you can imagine that is a whole range of very complicated issues here. some of them are technical. can the taliban run an air traffic control system? but a lot of them are to do with security. civilian airlines do not want to
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fly into kabul unless they know that it's safe to do so. now our understanding is that the qataris are pushing the taliban to accept an international presence at the airport to oversee security procedures, but the taliban are the new rulers of afghanistan. they are rejecting any international presence at the airport because they see it as a violation of their sovereignty, but what's interesting here is we've been talking over the last couple of weeks about the u.s. and the taliban, enemies of 20 years, finding ways to cooperate and the airport might be one place where they can work together because the taliban want this airport open, too. they want to show that they are the legitimate government of a functioning state, and to have a functioning state you need a functioning airplane. chris? >> without a doubt. courtney, many people are skeptical actually that the taliban will ever be stable or allow stable passage going forward for those 100 to 200 americans, for the afghans who are still there, but you do have
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some exclusive report begun how the taliban had cooperated in the final weeks. >> yeah, that's right. so, chris, we've been hearing for some time now, basically since this evacuation mission began, that the u.s. had been coord rating from a military-to-military level with the taliban in kabul so u.s. military leaders were talking to taliban leaders there on the ground and coordinating with how to get americans safely to the airport, but now that the mission is over, we're -- we have some new details about exactly what was going on. basically the state department would reach out to americans. they would send them a piece of paper via text and the americans would take to several different locations where taliban members, taliban fighters would essentially process these americans. they would have their names. they would show them the passes that would get them through this taliban checkpoint and in some cases to the gate and through the gate, but it wasn't just that, chris. in some cases these taliban fighters were clearing the
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roads. they were clearing them and securing them so americans could pass through, an at times they were even carrying their luggage to get them to the gates. so i need to point out, of course, that there are many, many cases that we've heard about where taliban fighters at these checkpoints, they were abusive, at times beating afghans, not allowing them through and there were cases where americans weren't allowed through as well, but what's significant here is that we now know that there were -- there was a coordination and that the taliban at times were actually helping americans get through. the defense officials i spoke with though are very skeptical that this will lead to some longer relationship. this was a confidence-building measure though and we heard from general mark milley who was asked specifically if he sees a future, if it's possible that the u.s. could coordinate in some way with the taliban going forward and he did say it's possible. >> raf, what does the diplomatic pressure that blinken promised look like when it comes to getting people out of afghanistan? are we talking about an exchange
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of funds? decode this for us. >> so money definitely could be a big part of it. the u.s. and its allies are trying to figure out what are the carrots and what the sticks here? how can it incentivize good behavior from the taliban and how can it punish bad behavior so on the list of carrots the taliban is looking for humanitarian aid coming into afghanistan, especially as the winter approaches. they want afghanistan's national funds which are largely held in the federal reserve bank in new york sob unfrozen and to be handed over to them, and in the longer term they are looking for international recognition. they want to be seep on the world stage as the legitimate government of afghanistan. in terms of sticks, there are sanctions. they are keeping afghanistan isolated, cut off, potentially not helping with the airport, but this diplomatic effort that secretary of state blinken has promised has made all the more complicated by the fact that
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america's for torres like embassy in kabul has been evacuated, shut down and is in the hands of the taliban. that, chris, used to be one of the biggest american diplomatic missions on the earth. there were 4,000 people working there. that mission has now been moved here to doha, qatar. it is in exile, a long way from the people they are talking to, and it's very trick toe do diplomacy from 1,200 miles away. raf sanchez and courtney kube, thanks to both of you. coming up, new data into nbc news, how many millions of covid vaccine doses the u.s. has thrown away. why is this happening, and what's the impact? you're watching "msnbc reports." ? you're watching "msnbc reports." my moderate to severe crohn's disease. then i realized something was missing... ...me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there for her. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is the #1 prescribed biologic for people with crohn's disease. the majority of people on humira
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the news coming as early results from an important new study were released about the effectiveness of masks. joining me now physician and nbc news medical contributor dr. patel. worrying about global vaccine inequity and booster shots taking up some of the vaccinations should we be concerned that 3% of these shots are being wave, sore that an acceptable rate given the logistics of a mass vaccination campaign? >> yeah, chris, so we should both be concerned. any wasted dose is just a tragedy when we have so much of the world waiting, as you know, but we can also accept that there is going to be some waste. i think the question is how much waste is accept and, and what can we do to minimize it? our clinic, we have to throw doses away almost on a daily basis, and it has a lot to do, chris, with how the vials are configured. we get up to 15 doses and we want people who walk in to be
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vaccinated. we don't wait until we get 15 people. we give people a vaccine if we can but we have 12 hours to use the end of it and we end up wasting doses. it has to be better but that will take working with the manufacturers to get smaller number of doses in the vials. >> let's talk about a study, being peer reviewed. authored by scientists in bangladesh, at yale and stanford and it tracked more than 340,000 adults across 600 villages in rural bangladesh. it's the largest randomized study examining the effectiveness of masks in combating covid-19. >> yeah. >> here's bottom line. it found mask-wearing increased -- as mask-wearing increased they found decrease in covid-19. what do you see as both the significance of the size of this study and these findings? >> yeah. briefly, chris, this is the very kind of, quote, gold standard study that a lot of people who are dubious or skeptical about
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the effectiveness of masks have been asking for. hundreds of thousands of patients, randomized, as you said, but i think it also points, chris, to something really important. this is probably, one, an undercount on the decreatures infections baus they only looked at symptomatic infections. we know a lot with asymptomatic and, number two, it's how to get people to wear masks. they went door to door and gave people free masks and educated the ones that were in the quote, unquote investigation group, and that's what we should be doing here. we still have no kind of supply for masks for even the people who want them much less the education around how masks help. >> yeah. >> i also want to ask you about something that happened monday. the commissioner of public health in georgia, dr. kathleen toomey was speak, and she said anti-advantages protesters not only disrupted several vaccination drives, they shut one down. here's part what have she had to say. >> many of our line workers who are doing these vaccinations are
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receiving threats, are receiving hostile e-mails. when i heard that one mobile event in one town had to close down because of the harassment, bullying and threats that were directed at the -- at our team, i just said this is wrong. these people are giving their lives to help others, to help us in this state. we in georgia can do better. >> this is wrong seems like almost an understatement. i wonder what goes through your mind when you hear that. >> yeah. chris, this feels like something, i'm not a lawyer. i'm not in law enforcement. it feels lyrics one, criminal charges should be brought against people who are actively interfering an putting someone's life in jen dishes of course, but interfering with the ability to save someone else's life. we would not hesitate to arrest someone if they stood in front of an ambulance with their lights blazing, and it's just stunning to me after watching 18
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months of death and despair that we're trying to -- it's one thing individually if you do not see your responsibility as getting vaccinated. it's a whole other thing to prevent people to step up and the workers who administer the vaccines. >> i also think about the fact that the poem who were only getting vaccinated now may be hesitant and finally are doing it and then they find themselves in a situation where there's harris hasn't. threat. doctor, always great to have you on the program. thank you. >> up next, inside our nbc news podcast that just debuted at number one and the texas suburb at the center of the battle over critical race theory. you're watching "msnbc reports." as stages, it's more treatable. because when caught in early stages, it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive and detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers even in early stages. tell me more. it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk.
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with students' lives up-ended for a year and a half due to the covid-19 pandemic, some school districts are facing a new challenge. the debate over critical race theory. south lake texas, a suburban town northwest of dallas, has
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become a flash point over the fight between school administrators and parents. nbc news correspondent antonio hilton has this report. >> reporter: this woman is anxious as she gets her daughter ready for the first day of school. not only about covid but about the school's culture after such a divisive year. they live in southlake, texas, one of the first suburbs caught in the national fight over diversity and history. after video surfaced of students using the n-word conservative voters delivered a landslide victory this spring. as a minority family in southlake, do you think the schools are a safe environment? >> i think it is a safe environment. we feel safe here, but i would say i am preparing my child to deal with these issues when they creep up because we're not immune from it. >> reporter: from virginia to missouri alleged teaching of critical race theory.
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>> and just because i do not want critical race theory taught to my children in school does not mean that i am a racist. >> reporter: it's a decades old study of the legacy of racism in society. no evidence it's been taught in schools. dozens of state leaders have tried to ban it and conservatives have turned the phrase into a catch-all for any lessons that might make white students feel guilty. dr. ledbetter of southlakes carroll schools gave us an exclusive interview. a lawsuit and restraining order block him from working on diversity and inclusion plan for the kids. is there racism in southlake and this carroll? >> let me think about that question. i will stop there. i think it goes back to people understanding each other almost from an impathy standpoint, understand varying differences.
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>> reporter: at some point will you be forced as a leader to pick a side? to pick a yes or no? >> i doan know that i necessarily have to have a yes or no to that question. for me i am focused on my priority. my priority are the students. >> bye. have a great first day. >> reporter: at times they have wondered if it was a mistake to raise their daughters here. >> trust is important in every aspect of life, and it feels like in southlake neighbors have lost trust of each other. >> reporter: for now the family will educate their daughter on american history and diversity at home. >> antonio hilton joins me now. it's fascinating. i have to say since covid i've been describing to some education newsletters and suddenly critical race theory is all over it. i'm so curious. you did this deep dive. what's your takeaway about the future of the debate? >> reporter: as you mentioned these fights are spreading all
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over the country. southlake was a ground zero town where it all began. my takeaway when you look at someone like dr. ledbetter or others, they are the ones who have essentially been put in the position, whether they want to be or not, of having to forge the path forward, try to get the two sides that have been having really emotional, at times very nasty conversations with each other, to somehow come together now. and that's a really difficult challenge. you can see right there he struggles to answer some of the questions and it's indyk tim of what administrators are facing as the fights just rage on, chris. >> antonio hylton, sorry. i lost my ability to hear you. thank you so much. a fantastic piece and, again, a quick note, the first two episodes of "southlake," a
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