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177,000 acres and tonight it's only 14% contained. surreal photos capture parts of the sierra in flames surrounded by a smokey orange sky. forecasters saying the region will remain at risk for critical fire the british invaded afghanistan in 1839. they were in charge in india, right next door. there reaches the british empire extended around the world. they were worried that the regime in charge in afghanistan, in the 18 thirties, they were worried that they were siding
with russia, instead of them, giving russia too much influence in a place where britain thought that they should be in charge. so in 1839, the brits invaded afghanistan, they tried to install their own, guy who they had handpicked to run afghanistan. who they thought would make afghanistan more closely aligned with them. the british army state for several years, fighting that war, but in the end that did not work out. the brits left in 1842. but then, 30 5:40 years later, the british army tried again. the brits were freaked out all over again, that a place they thought out to be aligned with them, was actually more inclined toward russia, same thing that has driven them 30 5:40 years before. in so in 1878, the british invaded afghanistan again. and again they installed their own handpicked guy. this time for a hot minute they actually thought they had one. in that afghanistan would have a long term alliance with britain, which is what they were seeking in that first and
second or. but their guy they installed on top of the afghan government, he abdicated in afghanistan went back to his previous raise again. and the british lost again. how long does it take to forget? it was 35 or 40 years between the first british war and the second one. it was another 35 or 40 years before they invaded a third time. at the close of world war i. the british again invaded afghanistan and fought another war than her. that one ended with afghanistan signing a treaty that recognized its independence. grape in in afghanistan three different times, to try to keep afghanistan in their orbit. three invasions. three wars. the answer was no every time. fast forward 102 years. it was just earlier this month, august 19th, that afghan celebrated with they to this day call independence day, afghan independence day, every year. they celebrate that peace
treaty, that gave them their independence as a nation, in 1919. independence from great britain at the end of the third british invasion of afghanistan. and it is gravely oversimplifying to say it this way. but if he did have to boil it down, the reason great britain kept invading afghanistan, over and over again, is because they really did think that afghanistan was to cozy with russia. they wanted to stop that alliance. they won in afghanistan in their british orbit instead. after the peace treaty in 1919, in which afghanistan formally got its independence, after fighting off three different british invasions, the afghan government at the time, actually did kind of sign themselves up with the russians. they were one of the first countries to recognize the new first soviet states after they had their revolution in 1917. in playground terms, again and grossly oversimplified terms, that means in the battle for
having influence over afghanistan, the russians sort of one. and britain lost. despite years and years of fighting in three different words there. to fight despite brits losing thousands of soldiers there. but the russians, soon the soviets, they would end up having their own drama and trauma with the afghan people, in the afghan government. because the afghan government well ahead recognize the post's artist soon to be soviet states, well they had aligned themselves with russia, this thing brain was so worried about for so many generations, ultimately, even when they had a government that had aligned itself with the soviet union, the population of afghanistan did not necessarily like that. they didn't necessarily like or want, afghanistan being run by a communist soviet allied government, and so they started insurgency. after all of those words, the
british fought in the previous century, to keep afghanistan on their side, all of which ultimately failed, it was russia, the soviet union, that felt it necessary to invade afghanistan themselves, in 1979. to try to keep the afghan government on their side. despite insurgency in the country, that rejected russian influence. in that war, after the soviet union invaded. the united states got involved tenants if we have first. then ultimately with some considerable enthusiasm. on the side of the insurgents, who were making things so hard for the ussr. but, with us or without us, the history of afghanistan, even the modern history of afghanistan, is enough to have made the outcome of the soviet union's war there, sort of a foregone conclusion. why do outside invaders, even big powerful influential rich
resourced invaders, keep losing wars there? is it because of something about the invaders? or is it because of something about afghanistan? think about, it the british tried three times and failed. it takes brass to call that a british possible i'm. especially since they did iterate, they did learn from their previous mistakes a little bit. they did get a little better at fighting those words, with each successive invasion. they had war one, a do-over, then wore to a do-over, each time they got a little better, achieving a little bit of an itchy jake -- pointed them toward some sort of victory. but regardless, in the end, big picture, three times, three ross is. in russia knew the history when they themselves knew when they invaded themselves in 1970. nine maybe russia thought it was just something wrong with the british that made them fail and all their wars. we the soviet union will do a better. who thinks they can do a better
job than last guy that failed. the problem, wasn't necessarily the character of the invasion, the way the invaders waged the war. they tried a lot of different versions of it. the problem, more likely, was afghanistan. which for all of its poverty, and conflicts, and everything else, afghanistan does not particularly want to be under any other countries remote control. and so when the soviet union invaded in 1979, the modern history of afghanistan would've told them how that would end. but they invaded, and then just shy of a decade after they invaded in 1989, the soviets went home to. they went home february 15th 1980. >> the end of an era. the last of the soviet troops leaving afghanistan, after nine years of defeat. nbc nightly news.
with tom brokaw. good evening. it really is one of the most remarkable military stories of our time. a nuclear superpower, defeated by a sort of bands of rebels who waged a hit and run war for almost a decade. tonight, afghanistan is free of soviet troops, and the next bloody phase of this word said to begin. >> the soviets-long war in afghanistan officially ended as the last unit crossed over the river and entered soviet territory just before noon. the lieutenant general who has commanded soviet forces in afghanistan for five, years was the last two eve. he walked the final 200 yards, with his young son. you saw that i didn't look back he said. my thoughts are with the shoulders to fold up before. me and with those who did not get out alive. in this border town, the soldiers were told they did their patriotic duty. bravely, heroically helping the
afghan people. there was no plan that they won. with the pull out accomplished on schedule, the soviets failed military venture in afghanistan's come to an end. but there is no victory to celebrate, no proud ending to this war. it is simply over, over there. it's over despite more than nine years of battling the muslim guerrillas who have defied soviet supported regimes. at home, soviet mothers mourned their sons, and soviet leader gorbachev declared the war of leading wound. he decided last year to pull out the troops. in moscow today, there was relief that the pull out was finally over. >> i'm happy. happiness is all i feel. >> we all think the withdrawal is a positive move. >> i think the intervention was a mistake. but the withdrawal is what his although somewhat late. >> the band played, and patriotic speeches were made, but this was a defeat, as now
the country will try to heal what gorbachev called, a bleeding wound. nbc news, near the afghan border. >> february 15th 1989. remember we talked about the length of time between all the various british invasions of afghanistan, those three different wars. 30 5:40 years between them. how long does it take to forget? how long does it take to decide to do it again? today marks roughly 32 and a half years, 12,000 days. since the soviet withdrawal from afghanistan, the end of that war, and the end of today of ours. >> good afternoon everyone. i'm here to announce the completion of our withdrawal from afghanistan. in the end of the military mission to evacuate american citizens, a country nationals and vulnerable afghans. the last c-17 lifted off from
hamid karzai international airport this afternoon at 3:29 aircraft time. -- well the military evacuation is complete, the diplomatic mission to secure additional citizens and afghans who want to leave continues. i know you are going to hear more about that from the state department shortly. tonight's withdrawal signifies, both the end of the military components of the evacuation, but also the end of the nearly 20 year mission, that began in afghanistan shortly after september 11th 2001. it's a mission that brought osama bin laden along with many of his own kind of coconspirators, and it was not a cheap mission. the cost was 2460 u.s. service members and civilians killed. and more than 20,000 who were injured. sadly that includes 13 soon u.s. members who were killed last week, by an isis-k suicide
bomber. we honor their sacrifice today. as we remember their heroic accomplishments. no words for me, could possibly capture the full measure of sacrifices and accomplishments of those who served. nor the emotions they're feeling at this moment. but i will say that i am proud, that both my son and i have been a part of it. >> proud that both my son and i have been a part of. it it's a reminder of how concentrated u.s. military service is in our country. families often sending multiple generations into the service, even simultaneously, while the vast majority of americans don't serve in the military. also reminder that the young soldiers and airmen and marines that died just last week in afghanistan, some were literally babies on 9/11. they weren't even walking or talking at the time of the precipitating event for the war in which they died. they were toddlers at the time the starting gun was fired to
start this war, that ultimately ended their lives. the last u.s. planes left the airport in kabul today. august 30th, east coast time. which was basically midnight in kabul when they left. it's the deadline, set by president biden. the last two americans on the ground before the playing closed stores and took off, four general christopher donahue, who's in charge of the kabul airport airlift, that's him here. the last u.s. soldier leaving afghanistan. also on that plane, the other man left as the last man beside him was ross wilson, the top u.s. diplomat in kabul. tonight secretary of state anthony blinken gave his extended remarks on the end of the u.s. military mission in afghanistan. and why he called the start of a new diplomatic mission for the u.s. in that country. including efforts to continue to get more people out of that country, even without kabul airport as a bridge had for doing so. one of the first concrete signs
of the mission today was an faa notice to airmen, which is noticed pilots worldwide, and it was blunt as all. in case it was not clear before. effective immediately hamid karzai international airport is uncontrolled. no air traffic controller airport services are available. aircraft operating into out of her through kabul should use extreme caution. taliban now controls the airport. over the past 17 days, the u.s. airlifts brought more than 122,000 people, out of afghanistan. to that single runway airfield. single largest non evacuation in the history of the u.s. military. by a lot. president biden tonight said this in his statement, ahead of what's expected to be a major speech of the nation tomorrow. he said quote, i want to thank our commanders and the men and women serving under them for their execution of the dangerous retrograde from afghanistan is scheduled. in the early morning hours of
august 31st, kabul time, with no further loss of american lives. the past 17 days we've seen our troops execute the largest airlift in u.s. history, evacuating over 120,000 u.s. citizens, citizens of our allies, and afghan allies of the united states. they have done it with unmatched courage, professionalism and resolve. now our 20 year military presence in afghanistan has ended. tomorrow afternoon he says, i will address the american people on my decision not to extend our presence in afghanistan, beyond august 31st. for now, i will report that it was a unanimous recommendation of the joint chiefs, and of all of our commanders on the ground, to end our mission as planned. their view is that ending your mission was the best way to protect the lives of our troops, and secure the prospects of civilian departures for those who want to leave afghanistan in the weeks and months ahead. i've asked the secretary of state to lead the continued coordination with our international partners to ensure safe passage for any americans, afghan partners and foreign nationals who want to leave afghanistan. this will include ongoing
diplomacy in afghanistan in coordination with partners in the region to reopen the airport allowing for continued for those who want to leave and deliver a humanitarian assistance to the people of afghanistan. for now, i urge all americans to join me in grateful prayer tonight for these things. first, for our troops and diplomats who carried out this mission of mercy in kabul in a tremendous risk with unparalleled results. an airlift that evacuated tens of thousands more people than any imagined possible. seconds, to the network of volunteers and veterans who helped identify those needing evacuation, guide them to the airport, and provide support along the way. in third, so everyone who is now in who will welcome our afghan allies to their new homes around the world and in the united states. the president calling for grateful prayer tonight, for those three things. he then closes with a call for
gratitude, for the sacrifice of the 13 u.s. service members who were killed last week. well facilitating the civilian evacuations from the airport. he in his statement tonight listed them all by name. again, this from the president tonight, as the u.s. enters the longest war in our history, as the united states becomes the third world superpower, to leave afghanistan. after years of fighting. thousands of casualties. and no certain outcome that bears resemblance to the stated objectives that justified continuing the war for this long. it was the british. it was the russians. today it is us. president biden will address the country tomorrow. for now, it is something to see the headlines across the front pages tonight. at the new york times, at the washington post, at the wall street journal, usa today, all these papers with national reach. just stunning to see this day
will in fact live in history. tonight we have more on what happens next. for afghans who want to leave, for afghans to the u.s. has accepted responsibility for, in terms of agreeing to try to get them out. the airlift is done. the ambassador is gone from the u.s. embassy. but the pentagon in the state department are both explaining today that there are more people to still get out. and they are still planning to get more people out. how that will work with zero u.s. troops, in a closed u.s. embassy, and there's interesting reporting along those lines. like i said, we will have more on that tonight. that's a continuing developing story. and all of that of course is unfolding at the same moment, that the country's been dealing with one of the most powerful hurricanes to ever make landfall in the united states. was hurricane ida has now been downgraded to a tropical depression. it's still dumping heavy rainfall across mississippi tonight, as it makes its way toward the tennessee valley, and ultimately toward the northeast. when it made landfall in the louisiana coast around midday yesterday, ida was a cat four
hurricane. with sustained winds topping 150 miles per hour. one of the strongest hurricanes to ever hit the mainland united states. one of the top five. since dawn broke this morning, louisiana has been coming to grips with just how much have a kite a left in its wake. particularly along the coast, and along the great american city of new orleans. this is lit last louisiana today, northwest of new orleans. overnight some residents were trapped by rising floodwaters there, people were treated to their attics. calling for help. but the winds were too strong for any rescue efforts overnight. you can see why it was so dangerous to send out rescue crews last night. in this quite scary footage of people being rescued from a flooded highway in new orleans in the middle of the storm last night. there have been two confirmed deaths from the storm, one of them was a man who drowned when his vehicle tried to go through floodwaters and the same highway.
wednesday late came today, you can see here search and rescue teams finally reached ling where all those people had their homes filled with water, all those people were trapped in their attics, trying to get away from the rising waters, we louisiana's governor said tonight that the national guard had rescued 191 people. and seven pets. it's not clear how many people may need rescuing right now, as we speak. today's operations have largely been responding to the 9-1-1 calls that could not be answered last night. 9-1-1 systems were down. multiple locations for much of the night in the day today, including for a long time in new orleans. the governor of louisiana said teams will do a grim search in the hardest hit areas, took a street by street block by block and then do a secondary search to make sure they didn't miss anyone on the first one. meanwhile the state is bracing, for the knock on effects of the biggest problem facing southeast louisiana, in the wake of eta. a lack of electric power. this is a collapse transmission tower in louisiana today.
the power company enjoji says all eight of the transmission lines that come into the city of new orleans, were knocked out by the storm. the distribution lines within the city. the big towers, the big transmission lines that bring high voltage current, into the city. there's eight of those coming into new orleans, all eight knocked out. over 1 million homes and businesses, are without power in louisiana. including the host city of new orleans. he says i'll take days to just determine the extent of the damage. and far longer to restore electricity. that means most people will be without, for example air conditioning as the heat index tops 100 degrees over the next couple of. days officials are warning about the danger of carbon oxide poisoning, from people using portable generators inside. inside a home or a garage. that's what's actually cause most of the deaths in louisiana from hurricane laura last year. they're urgently trying to get that word out about the portable generators. the other thing we're keeping an eye on in louisiana, it is
the hospitals. as you know from recent reporting including on the show, louisiana's hospitals are already full to bursting with very sick covid patients. . navy medical team, uniform active duty meddled seem arriving in overwhelmed doctors and staff here in the navy team. this footage was remarkable to see that loud sustained ovation they got from the hospital staff. the staff that was overwhelmed with covid patients. that was the hospital which is about 120 miles west of new orleans. that same health care system, has had to be evacuated over 60 patients, from two of their smaller hospitals near new orleans, early this morning. because of what the ceo described as partially torn off roofs. fill generators, water running down the, was blown out windows from the hurricane. they also help to partner hospital evacuate 100 patients tonight. this is after we saw a
harrowing video yesterday, as a portion of the roof is being blown off of one hospital. but it is a challenge to find anywhere for patients to go right now. before the storm hit. all the states hospitals were full, as well as the hospitals of all the neighboring states, before covid. these hospitals are bracing for the arrival of people who are being rescued from floodwaters, or people who get sick or injured in the coming days. from what may baby an extended period of time, and what may be extreme heat conditions. so the challenges here are myriad. we're gonna watch a developing story tonight. that, and then use out of afghanistan is enough to power a normal new cycle until the end of this year, at least. but on top of that, we've also got our eyes on washington story. a washington's story that is historic in its own way.
according to a report from cnn, the phone records of former president donald trump are being requested from telecom companies, by the committee that is investigating the january 6th attack on the u.s. capital. the attack by trump supporters as they try to stop the certification of the election, and which mr. trump wants to joe biden. last, week as we reported on the show, they can many investigating the attack, they contacted a different federal agencies, including the national archives and records administration. along with a department of justice, the department of defense, a whole lot of other infancy's. -- related to the attack on the capitol, and related to the broader effort by former president trump to try to seize power, to try to stay in power, even after he lost reelection. those eight federal agencies said those demands last week. then, after that, social media companies were sent those demands as well, asking them to
preserve records, related not just to the capitol attack, directly but also to efforts to sabotage or overturn the election. well now, in addition to the federal agencies, in addition to the social media companies, now it is telecom companies, cell phone providers, or being told to preserve communications related to a whole bunch of people, including former republican members of congress, who attended or promoted the events in washington on january six. events that led to the capitol attack. telecom companies are also being told to preserve records from adult members of president trump's family. members of his family who were also involved in those same events on january six, including the former presidents children ivanka, don jr., and eric. they're also being told to preserve the phone records of trump himself. which is a pretty remarkable thing. to have a congressional investigation trying to obtain the detailed personal phone
records of the former president, and his kids, and serving members of congress, who may or may not have embedded his efforts, to try to seize power and stay in office after losing the election. that is something, right? i know we are just buried news right now, but this itself would be a shocker at any other time. we're gonna have more on all of those stories, and more over the course of this very busy hour this night. stay with us. ay with us instantly clear everyday congestion with vicks sinex saline. for fast drug free relief vicks sinex. instantly clear everyday congestion. and try vicks sinex children's saline. safe and gentle relief for children's noses.
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republican congressman jim jordan has had trouble giving a straight answer to a pretty simple question. congressman, did you speak to president trump on the day trump supporters attacked the u.s. capital, on january 6th? >> did you talk to the former president that day? i talk to the former president all the time. countless -- times on january six congressmen? . >> yes i talk to the president a lot. >> on january six, did you speak with him before, during or after the capital's attack? >> i spoke with him that day after, i think after.
i don't know if i spoke with him in the morning or not, i just don't know. i have to go back, i mean, i don't know when those conversations happened. >> so the answer is what -- the answer is yes? those answers to forward questions. those answers are the closest we have had to an admission from republican women jim jordan, that he did speak with president trump the day supporters attacked the capital. now thanks to the scoop from politico.com, we know that congressman jim jordan did speak that day multiple times. congressman now admitting that quote identity spoke the president that. day i don't recall i know it was more than once. perhaps, he will have the opportunity to have that memory refreshed soon. today, the house committee that's investigating the
january 6th attacks sent letters to multiple cell phone providers, directing them to preserve phone records that may be relevant to the committee's investigation. cnn is reporting that the list of individuals includes president trump himself, several of his family members. the committee also once the companies to preserve the records of several republican members, including lauren bober, taylor greene, jim jordan, matt gates, scott perry and yes olive home played some role in promoting or furthering the aims of the rally that preceded the attack on the capitol that day. it is really something though for investigating committee to obtain phone records from a former president, from a former president's family, and from serving members of congress. joining us now to help us understand the ambition of this request, and why this is necessary, it's a member of the house select committee on january six. congressman ellen laura from
the great state of virginia. congressman, it's a real pleasure to have you tonight. thank you. >> thank. >> you do agree that this is a remarkable request. i feel i've covered a lot of congressional investigations -- i don't know if it's exactly unprecedented, but it does feel like a big deal? >> rachel, this committee is tasked, fully discovering an understanding everything that happened on january six and everything that led up to january six unprecedented attack on our democracy. the committee is using these requests to ensure. the telecom companies preserve these records. this is the preliminary staff, and it wants to curb list of people who were involved. i won't promise pacific on any
of the names, but we are taking a broad look forecasting a wide net, to make sure that we understand all of the facts about what happened that day, and have these records available to the investigation. >> do you or other members of the committee anticipate that these requests are gonna lead to legal fights, either when it comes specifically to the former president, or to serving members of congress. i know you don't want to talk about any individuals, but given the reporting, and given with chairman thompson has said about the scope of these requests for information, are you still building into your timeline an expectation that some of these things may end up in court? >> it is certainly possible, and i think the committee's approach has been so far, with these record requesting these preservation requests. we're sending out requests and providing a deadline, in order for the telecom companies, or agencies depend on their press to comply. and we have more moving forward. there is the possibility of adding subpoenas if necessary.
but i hope it would be especially, current or foreign members of the -- fully comply with these requests. we do have tools available, in order to enforce this request with subpoenas later on if necessary. >> i said at the beginning of the show tonight this is a showstopper of a development, in terms of the investigation as to what happened on january six, particularly given the committee's willingness to look not just specifically at the physical attack on the capital, but how it was seated, and what it feels to have been a larger effort to try to subvert the election results, and keep the former resident in flower. have these requests going out and to think about the scope of this investigation. it also happens at a time that we've got these incredibly historic and harrowing other developments in the world, not just hurricane ida, which we
are watching the continued impact off in the southeast. not just these terrible moment that we're at in terms of covid and restrain our country, and its hospitals particular in the southeast. but today is the end of the u.s. war in afghanistan, and as someone who served in the united states navy for two decades, who rose to high-level in the united states navy, and in fact wasn't a command position for very long time, i just have to ask your reflection on this moment, both this work that you're doing, and what it means today to end this longest war? >> rachel, i reflect back on myself on 9/11. it was actually a time when i was potentially coming to the end of my service commitment. being commissioned as an officer. when i saw those tragic attacks on our homeland, on the united states and the twin towers and our aircraft carriers, it was a moment where i knew that i
needed -- because what i was doing was important. i knew it was important to defend our country. even for another 15 years -- i think there's so many people who are warned of the tragic loss of the 13 americans who died and evacuation, and they put their life on the line to continue to serve our country overseas, and understand that we have enemies overseas. they're still there, and they're still seeking to harm us and our allies. and you know when i look back and think about our 20 years in afghanistan, you know, the success of that was truly that we did prevent terrorists from gaining ground and planting a seed in afghanistan, from which they could launch attacks against our country. but now with a withdrawal, i think it's a very tenuous time. we've seen this in evacuation, that there are terrorists there who promised harm. there is loss of life of 13 americans and others injured, and many afghans killed from
this tragic terrorist attack in recent days. so, it's a very tenuous and dangerous time. and we've left behind americans. we've left behind partners, who served with us during these 20 years. we still have a mission at hand, to make sure that we can rescue them, that we can bring them back, if we can bring them to safety. so this mission is not over until the mission is complete. until we bring every american home. >> we still have a mission at hand, indeed. and that's gonna be the focus for the rest of our hour tonight. congresswoman elaine luria, thank you for your extended service in the navy. thank you for joining us tonight. thank you. we've got much more ahead tonight. stay with. us ay with. us red sofi. lower interest rate. my principal is going down. sofi is a place where you can start to tackle those money goals today. ♪♪
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be a military mission, will be a diplomatic mission. he told reporters both americans that are in afghanistan, they want to leave, and afghans that want to leave, they will not be denied that opportunity. they said the state department will work that very hard the days and weeks ahead. what does that mean exactly? clearly, in concept, now that the u.s. military is no longer on the ground in afghanistan, we are witnessing in administrative handoff of this issue, from the military to the responsibility of the united states state department, and the nation's diplomats. tonight america's top diplomat secretary of state, gave us the first outline of what that might look like going forward. well he reaffirmed president biden's commitment, that the u.s. government will get out, everybody out of the country that wants to leave. >> an american afghanistan tells us they want to stay for now, in the new week, or a month, or a year, they reach out and say i change my mind, we will help them leave.
additionally, we worked intensely to evacuate and relocate afghans, who works alongside us. we will work to secure their safe passage. this morning, i met with the foreign ministries of all the g7 governments. as well as the european union, turkey, and the secretary general. we discussed how we will work together to facilitate getting people out of afghanistan, including the civilian airport getting opened his soon as possible. >> secretary of state anthony blinken state speaking tonight announcing a multi lateral initiative, to try to continue to gets afghan allies, and u.s. citizens, dual citizens, out of afghanistan. in part by planning to reopen the country's main airport in kabul. how is that going to work? and unless and until that happens, one of the other ways out. joining us now is the host of andrea mitchell reports, anemone see, andrea, it's been great to see, it's been too
long my friend. it's great to see rachel. >> so, we heard a lot from secretary blinken about americas commitments and thanking our partners, and talking about what has just happened. what is the nitty-gritty in terms of the plan going forward, to get additional people out, who the u.s. has committed to get out if and when they want to leave. >> this is very very tough, and it depends on relying on some very uncertain people, especially the taliban. they say they don't rely on them, that they don't trust them once they prove their living up to those commitments. commitments they have made not only to the u.s., but to 100 other countries that have demanded this. in the un security council, with russia and china both abstaining. the rest of the security council. as well as the g7. saying that they have to live up to this commitment, to let their be freedom of movement. of no repression of women, freedom of move to the borders,
that anyone that wants to, leave including americans who have aligned with the u.s., with targets on their back, to be allowed to leave when they want to. is that going to happen? it happened until the u.s. left militarily. but now it's a diplomatic mission, what leverage do we have? will they have some financial leverage. but basically, they have to make this happen by pressuring the taliban, with the finances, in trying to get pakistan around to keep their borders open. pakistan primarily does not have much leverage with iran. the pakistani border they have not made any commitment. there was a meeting of the five countries minus china surrounding afghanistan. and they have not said that they made a commitment to keep those borders open. in the past, pakistan has, but those roots are patrolled by the taliban. are they going to let people through? they know who the people are, who they suspect they know are involved with the americans. there are thousands and thousands of people, who were sivs and people who did not
even get through that process. who should have been through that process, and warn people. the women lawyers, the judges, the teachers, others who have been prominent. judges who have put taliban in jail. they've got documentation of. these avery been going door to door, there is plenty of evidence that they have not lived up to any of these commitments, outside of kabul and their relationship at the kabul airport. >> in terms of that airport, obviously, kabul is not the only airport in the country. and the taliban takeover, of the airport today, was also simultaneously in necessarily a statement to the worlds, that the karzai airport in kabul is closed. is there after, or is there going to be after by turkey, or by forces from any other nation, to get kabul airport back open? obviously the taliban can't run it themselves. they don't have air traffic control capacity and all these other things.
the idea that this airport will reopen, and that will again be some way that people can leave, how do we get there? >> that is exactly what blinken has been working, on with turkey and qatar. he met in talks with the g7 and according to target in cutting today, and has been doing this for weeks. in this started actually with the president talking to turkey's president in brussels, when we were there for the nato meetings. there was no commitment then. now they say they have that commitment. that the airport is a mess. and we destroyed a lot of equipment. we left a lot of 73 broken aircraft, making them unusable. that's where general mackenzie said enlisting all of those assets that we left. and made them incapable flying again. they also took out all of the staff, all of the traffic controllers, the airport workers, the mechanics. so there's no way that they can reopen without qatar in turkey putting people in.
that is with the relying on. and it's going to take a long time to get the airport up to speed. they need those overland routes, but what we're learning tonight from the ngos. the veterans that we're talking to and the colleagues were talking to the refugee groups. they're telling people right now to shelter in place, because there's no evidence yet that the taliban are going to let people pass. people are being told to go to safe houses, many of which have been financed in the past by american aid groups. go to save houses, go to shelters. try to hide out, until we see what the taliban are going to do. and then the other thing is, with general mackenzie also emphasized, there are now 2000 fighters, and isis-k fighters, at least he said. hard-core isis-k fighters. many of whom were released from the jails by the taliban, with commanders was their biggest mistake during their march to encircle and take kabul. those are the hardest of the hard. they --
with the 13 fallen service members. that they killed. and so many others injured. more than 100, we don't even know, 200 afghans who died in that terrible assault. and the suicide bomb. but they also had the rpgs, five that were aimed at the kabul airport today. that was repelled by american equipment. that equipment, i would say the attack on the airport in kabul, was the opening of the civil war. and there are resistance groups against the taliban in some of the outline provinces, under the some of the war lords that have not been part of the taliban, tell a bit loyal group. but the other group, is isis-k. and they are now going to be going after the taliban.
and the taliban has control over kabul, but can they control the rest of the country? this is going to be another terror war, right in the same place as you described at the beginning of the program. has been this subject, the country that's been unconquerable, by so many invasions. so many times by the brits, by russia, by us. in all leading to defeat. >> nbc's sheen news chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea this will be a fascinating story to keep, watching the end of an era in terms of u.s. military presence. but the start of something new and complex, thanks for helping us understand. >> you bet. fascinating and tragic as well. >> indeed. we'll be right back, stay with us. eed. we'll be right back, stay with us us with a revolutionary, rollerball design. because with the right pain reliever... life opens up.
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it for us tonight. thanks for being here on the big news night. i'm particle grateful when you try to spend some of that night with us. we'll be back again tomorrow night. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening rachel. president biden's going to address the nation tomorrow about the warren afghanistan. which is something we've actually never seen before. i've been looking back a lot with my partial memory of events, researching april, may 1975, the end of the vietnam war. presidential route for never said a word. there was no press conference,