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don't forget to tune in to the sunday show this week. i will be joined by house majority whip. 10:00 eastern on msnbc. that is don't's last word. -- that is tonight's "last word." . >> day 220 of the biden administration, we are following dramatic developments out of afghanistan. following the deadly attack. the u.s. military retaliated for that taechblth a spokesman for u.s. central command released a statement. u.s. forces conducted an over the horizon counter terrorism against an isis planner. it occurred in the province of
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afghanistan. we killed the target. we know of no civilian casualties. >> for those who carried out this attack, as well as anyone who wishes america harm, know this. we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down and make you pay. >> word of the air strike in the province after the white house is learning the threat of another attack in kabul. they are rushing to evacuate before tuesday's deadline. they issued another new security alert, urging citizen to avoid four airport gates at the kabul airport. president biden was told another attack in kabul is likely,
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yesterday's bombing that killed 13 service members, biden referred to the on-going efforts. >> the mission they are performing is dangerous. now, come with significant loss of american personnel. it is a worthy mission. they continue to evacuate folks out of that region. out of the airport. evacuate more than 12,000 additional people out of the airport in the last 24 hours. >> tonight, the white house said that since august 14th, the u.s. evacuated more than 109,000 people from afghanistan. peter alexander asked press secretary about the deadline to have all troops out of afghanistan. >> so it is clear for americans right now, four plus days away from the august 31st deadline,
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is the white house commitment is that all americans who wanted to leave afghanistan will be able to leave before that date? >> that is what we are focused on, committed and and working toward. >> continuing to follow events in kabul. >> reporter: hundreds have been evacuateded in the last 24 hours, if you are an afghan, trying to get to the airport now, the path is blocked. 9d u.s. military says it is cooperating security with the ta ban closely. more needed now more than ever, after the suicide bombing killed 13 american service member, most marine, doing pat-downs of evacees. >> among them, max. and esspinos athe mayor calling him a fallen hero.
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marine, expecting a baby in just a few weeks. lance corporal, and corpal lopez from southern california. and a marine from missouri. more than 150 afghans were killed. and kabul's main hospital, a butcher's bill was poifted and -- posted outside. >> muhammad said he was playing a game when the bomb knocked him unconscious. >> the pentagon tonight revealed a zone strike has been carried out against the suspected isis planner. following the latest developments, courtney, what do we know about how this attack was carried out? >> this was a strike.
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it was carried out in eastern afghanistan. it is east of kabul and along the border with pakistan. it occurred as an individual who is believed according to the u.s. defense officials, believed to have been involved in planning for future attacks. he was driving with an associate. in an isolated area, and according to the officials i spoke with. carried out in a manner to minimize civil casualties, the department of defense, and central command don't believe there were civilian casualties, they are not tracking any. it is important to point out, this was a strike, the first counter terror strike that u.s. has taken that we know about in afghanistan in some time. the last one it acknowledged was
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in february of 2020. this strike n direct retaliation for the attack on kabul airport. >> should we expect more attacks soon? >> so, that is really going to be a policy decision for the biden white house. right now, they are going to have to make two big decisions, do they want to do some sort of targeted strike which this was here this evening. will they continue to do more or do they want something that would have a symbolic impact on isis, in reality, not overall take-out isis, or have an operational impact on that for the long term or do something bigger. the second big question is, if there is going to be a larger retaliation for this do they want to wait until the u.s. troops are out of the country? at this point, the u.s. military is still on track from a
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withdrawal, it is only a couple of days away, it will be a difficult decision, if they want to plan for something while there are u.s. troops there. they are in -- 5400 u.s. at the airport, surrounded by taliban. potentially dangerous elements in kabul. it is a dangerous neighborhood. they have to ask themselves, do they want to do anything while there are troops there. >> what message do they hope to send with the strike? do they believe it will serve as retribution but a warning to someone planning something similar?
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we can strike you, you know, we can get you even out in a remote area, we can respond quickly, intent to hopefully stop them from carrying out any more attacks while the u.s. is still in the country. but again, this one strike, taking out these two individuals, this is the kind of thing that will have a middle ager major impact on afghanistan. it's not enormous. estimates are that they have somewhere in the neighborhood of 500, 1,200 to 1,500 total fighters in afghanistan. that's dwarfed by the size of the taliban. so that being said, even with that small isis-k presence in afghanistan, we've seen they can still carry out these kinds of spectacular, deadly attacks like the one they did yesterday. so the question is, does the
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u.s. here intend to send a message that they can get these guys where they want, when they want, or do they want to have a larger operational and strategic impact on isis operations going forward? >> courtney, as always, thank you. let's bring in our leadoff guest, eugene daniels, susan page, and frank figliuzzi. frank, what sticks out to you about this strike against isis-k tonight? are you surprised by how quickly this happened? >> i'm encouraged by how quickly it happened, and the fact that it happened while we're still on the ground evacuating citizens tells me that there's some degree of confidence that the
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military can stave off and deter another attempt. here's why the military event today is so much more than just a single drone strike. it is a projection of power, it is a message from the united states government that even though we're leaving, we're not done with counterterrorism operations, even though we'll have to do this over the horizon, from remote locations, and it's going to be far more challenging, we can still do it. one of the mysteries that i think hopefully will get solved soon is whether or not today's strike involved a partnership with the taliban. whether or not intelligence sources involved the taliban helping us. sometimes counterterrorism makes for strange bedfellows. >> i also think about what general mckenzie said, it's not what they say, it's what they do. eugene, what are you hearing from the white house tonight?
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could there be more strikes against isis-k? >> the thing that was made clear yesterday, they're going to find these people, and basically take them out. jen psaki said he doesn't want them to be on earth anymore. the president is upset about the attacks yesterday, and he knows that politically not only is it bad, they want to move out of afghanistan. and what we keep hearing from the administration, what i keep hearing from folks, is that this is exactly what we were scared of, of these attacks happening, and us having to attack back. and the thing that -- some other things we've been hearing, they have a pretty good idea of who they need to go after, and if more of that is coming, it's possible, right? we don't really know. but it depends on as courtney was saying, how long they're going to wait, do you do it
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while the troops are there or do they wait a little bit? this was a show of force to make clear, the president made a threat and a promise yesterday. more importantly, he hinted that he had a good idea of who they wanted to go after. and that's exactly what they showed today. >> susan, your reaction to tonight's strike after a somber week for the country and the white house? >> hearing the ages and stories behind the americans who were killed in that terror attack, and the scores of afghans who were killed, and the changing alliances, the alliance with the taliban is so interesting. a few weeks ago, the u.s. was planning the pullout with afghan forces as our allies, holding off the taliban. in the space of days, we're forging an alliance with the taliban. our original enemy after 9/11, when we first went into
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afghanistan almost 20 years ago. this has been pretty head-spinning. i think the strike shows the united states military is incredibly competent, to know who to get after, and using a drone to not put u.s. forces in harm's way. >> frank, how much harder did the cia's job just get? >> significantly harder. don't kid yourself that today's attack is going to be the norm, and it's going to be this easy all the time. we've lost our bases there, we've lost staging platforms for electronic eavesdropping, drone strikes, this likely came from
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united arab emirates, eight hours away. this all has to be done remotely. it makes the challenge for cia, for defense intelligence agency, and in the homeland for fbi, that much harder. the good news, we've done this before, we can do it again. but it's going to be tougher. >> richard engel described this as an attention-grabbing act on the part of isis-k. how does this strike factor into that? >> well, it's a slapdown for sure. i think it will also send a message to the taliban, you do want to partner with us. let's -- a little bit of a primer here. isis-k is a younger demographic than the taliban and al qaeda. they're far more violent, they believe al qaeda is not violent and extremist enough. they're the enemy of the
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taliban. this is going to be a unique partnership that we're probably going to have to move forward with, with the taliban. this puts them in their place for now. they'll want to retaliate, this is not over. >> thank you all so much for your time. coming up, we'll get an update on hurricane ida. and later, the latest surge of covid has been filling up icu beds all week. now morgues in florida are filling up, too. we have one of our best doctors standing by. "the 11th hour" is just getting under way on a friday night. ...then your bank should help you budget even better. (laughing) virtual wallet® is so much more than a checking account.
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can your internet do that? we're also keeping an eye on hurricane ida. tonight, northern gulf states are preparing for a direct hit later this weekend. michelle grossman is tracking this storm. what should we expect heading into the weekend? >> we're looking at the potential for a category 4 on landfall. we have about 30 hours before landfall. winds at 80 miles per hour as of 11:00 p.m. it just emerged into the gulf of mexico. very warm waters, low wind shear. quickly becoming a category 2 storm, by 7:00 a.m. tomorrow, category 3.
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sunday, 7:00 a.m., 140 miles per hour, and we expect a landfall somewhere along the coast of louisiana, most likely south central or southeastern louisiana. then it will make landfall. we'll see winds about 125 miles per hour sunday, and flooding and up to 20 inches of rain in some spots. monday to wednesday, slows down drastically. we'll see a lot of rain falling, could see 20 inches in some spots, again. warnings from lake charles, louisiana, over to the border of mississippi and alabama. where you see that red color, new orleans, baton rouge, morgan city, that's where we're seeing hurricane warnings. you want to evacuate if you've been told. tomorrow is your day to prepare, if not tonight. rain and flooding, starting sunday. we'll see it monday as well. and it will rain itself out,
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tuesday into wednesday. but just awful amounts of rain. we could see flooding in new orleans, it's like a bowl effect there. that's why we have the pumping stations, and they'll be put to the test this weekend. sunday and monday, winds as well. when hurricane gets close to land, we'll see them really stretch out. these could span 250 miles. that will bring strong winds onshore, maybe power outages, and also pushing water on land. storm surge is a wall of water, the ocean water, the saltwater pushing on to dry land. it's life-threatening. 10 to 15 inches in the pink, 4 to 7 in the red. it happens fast. that's why you want to evacuate and be inland, away from the coast, if we see that storm surge. also power outages, the maroon color, morgan city, new orleans, where we could see widespread power outages sunday and monday.
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the further north you go, you'll see the heavy rainfall. 8 to 16 inches, up to 20 inches. before i leave you, i circled hurricane ida, and also watching two other areas of interest in the tropics. we're one week away from peak season. and we're starting to heat up. we'll be continuing to watch ida throughout the week, and also the other two areas. back to you. >> michelle, beyond those who are being told they may need to evacuate, how are people also being told to prepare? >> watch and listen to your officials. a lot of people who live along the coast, they're used to this. last year, four tropical systems moved onshore in louisiana. today, hurricane laura, sunday, the 16th anniversary of katrina.
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the mission there being performed is dangerous. and it's now, it's come with a significant loss of american personnel. and but it's a worthy mission, because they continue to evacuate folks out of that region. out of the airport. we've evacuated more than 12,000 addition people out of the airport in the last 24 hours. >> recapping tonight's breaking news, the u.s. military has retaliated for yesterday's attack in kabul. u.s. military forces retaliated against an isis-k planner,
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initial indications are that we killed the target. we have no sign of civilian casualties. the gop remains firm in its opposition. this was kevin mccarthy earlier today. >> i'm extremely frustrated with this president. if you want to be president of the free world, you have to have the faith, the trust, and the confidence of the american public. president biden lost that yesterday. >> as usa today reports, the gop is less unified on how the president should be punished, and what to do about the afghan refugees coming to the u.s., and those whose lives are in danger because they helped the u.s. here to talk about it -- tolliver and matthew dowd. good to see you both. i'm going to start with you, matt. republicans wasted no time
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coming down on biden for the exit from afghanistan. critique, accountability, those come with the job. but floating ways to punish the president seems counterproductive, no? >> they've never let facts get in the way of anything they've said, or the principles of the constitution or our values. none of that gets in the way of what they do. i find it amazing that kevin mccarthy talked about a president can't govern if they don't have the faith, trust, and confidence of the american people. he served a president for four years that never, not even one day, had the faith, confidence, and trust of the majority of the american public. this is not a time where we're supposed to be scoring political points in the midst of this. we just lost 13 service members, and we've evacuated 110,000 people, double what people said that biden couldn't do. i think as of right now,
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president biden has done yeoman's work in the midst of this, at a time of immense discussion and dissension. >> jen psaki saying it's easy to throw stones when you're not making the tough calls. what do you make of the way the biden administration has communicated around the president's choice to remain the course thus far? >> i think the white house has gone to great lengths to communicate with the american public, while also communicating explicitly what they're seeing on the ground in afghanistan. that's a delicate balance. the other thing mccarthy mentioned was that it took biden too long. i'm like, he needed to make sure he had the facts from his
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military leaders, domestically as well as on the ground in afghanistan. that's critical for him to be able to lead and communicate to the general public. i agree with matt's points, this work is hard. this evacuation operation is difficult. and biden and the white house are doing what needs to be done right now. i do think their backs are up against the wall as we approach the august 31st deadline to leave the country. so that is going to be another negotiation that the white house is going to have to make, as they decide to evacuate and remove all troops by the deadline, or continue to try to evacuate not only u.s. citizens, but afghans who collaborated with military forces, press, u.s. ngos and other entities who are targeted by the taliban, with the need to protect u.s. troops on the ground after losing 13 service members. >> you have the president communicating about these evacuations, you have the president communicating about
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our final exit. we spoke earlier about the tenuous relationship the u.s. will have with the taliban. how do you explain that about-face to americans? >> well, i think the american public is sick and tired, and they've been sick and tired for 18 years about this. and it took way too long for us to get out of there. we took on a mission that we should have never taken on, nation building. it's never worked in the history of the world when somebody comes in and tries to build a nation upon someone else, unless it comes from the nation itself. so i think as of right now, it's not just the taliban have taken control. afghanistan is a taliban country now. that is a fact. it was that way for a long period of time, we finally admitted it, and we finally had a president that took the courage to admit that to the public. and i think now the public has to move on. it's not as if all of the sacrifices made are gone.
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we should honor it. but we honor it by telling the american public the truth. >> this conversation thus far has been about our exit and evacuations. congress has said it will probe how and why what happened has happened. but there are already rumblings about the resettlement of afghans in the country. what does success look like? >> make sure that any afghans coming to the country have what they need immediately, as soon as they get to the ground. they have shelter, food, resources available to them. i think that will take a lot of work that we have seen from a number of governors across the country who have opened up their states. maryland, iowa, virginia, and we'll need more, as tens of thousands of afghans are still looking for refuge in the united states. what comes along with that is president biden raising the refugee cap, so we can accommodate them and have the
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funding and federal resources they need to transition to the united states as well. and so success looks like all of those resources being made available, it looks like congress on the hill applying pressure to biden to raise that refugee cap. and governors across the country stepping up to help provide refuge for afghans. >> i want to get both of your thoughts on another big challenge facing the country. listen to this. >> we definitely started a movement in this country. we've made it clear that voting rights is under attack. so long as they can do this at night, which is what they like to do in texas, when nobody is paying attention, and sweep it under the rug, hey, who cares, who knows, right? but instead, we rang the alarms and said, hey, listen up. things are getting really bad. our democracy is under attack. >> despite the best efforts of democrats in texas, the
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inevitable is moving closer to reality. statehouse republicans pushing through restrictions on early voting, protects partisan poll watchers, and institutes voter i.d. for vote by mail. that means it's up to the federal government to step in and protect voter rights, which so far seems unlikely. matt, what is happening in you're state? >> well -- >> you're like, i don't even know where to start with that? covid, voting rights? let's start with voting rights. >> this is what is happening in our state. this is a clear demonstration why leadership matters. and the republican leaders of this state, it's not just the governor, it's the law enforcement lieutenant governor and the attorney general, they're doing bad policies that
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are hurting people, and then they're trying to put in to place a system where they can't be held accountable. texas is 50th in ease of voting. and that included the things that we did last year, in 2020, to make this easier. in the 1990s, texas was 14th in ease of voting. they know what they're doing is bad for texans on a number of issues, including covid. what do they want to do? put in place walls so they can't be held accountable for bad policies. >> take a listen to this exchange from the texas floor. >> courts have pointed out intentional discrimination against african-americans, latinos, and people of color. these are three federal courts cross this country, making ten
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findings. >> intentional discrimination, is that racism? >> that is -- those words, intentional discrimination, i think, can be fairly characterized in this manner. >> we can talk about racial impacts without accusing members of this body of being racist. >> juanita, does that tell us everything we need to know about this legislation? >> absolutely. did you see how tight he got, hearing the word even mentioned on the house floor? i want to shout out to those state representatives for naming it, calling a spade a spade. what we have across the country are racist voter suppression bills, passing across republican
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led statehouses. texas, georgia, arizona will not stop. and so what now is needed is congressional action. i'm really grateful that we're discussing this in relation to the march tomorrow. that's what this is about. keeping pressure on congress to protection our elections, make sure we don't have systemic barriers to the polls. when we call out the targeted, intentionally discriminatory practices for what they are, racist, this is the reaction we get. that's why it's important for congress to act, to make sure our rights are protected. >> matt, you had some senators saying they're optimistic that federal legislation can move. what do they know that we don't know? >> i don't know what they know
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that we don't know. but i wish they'd get the backbone of lone star democrats, who made tremendous sacrifices without getting any help in washington, d.c., in this fight. looks like they're going to end up losing it, but at least they were able to fight. they need to adapt this to washington and do whatever they possibly can, including a carve-out on the filibuster to get this done in washington, d.c., now. >> i understand we'll be watching these marches in war washington, but this will move somebody like joe manchin? >> i think it's important so that additional pressure can stay on them, because they have to be implored to use every tool
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available. that's the intention here. calling it out, keeping it a part of public discourse, and making sure that since we know republicans in congress are not going to be able -- not willing to step forward and help to preserve our democracy, senate democrats have to do whatever is necessary, including a carve-out for the filibuster to get this down. >> almost every conversation we have loops back to republicans, 2022, 2024, and it's motivating a lot of their decisions. but can they continue to ignore public sentiment when it comes to voting rights? maybe this helps them in 2022 and 2024, eventually doesn't it come back to bite them? >> that's a great question. i think it will only be answered by the people watching and listening to this, and americans across the country. if they get away with this, and they're not held accountable, it
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will only get worse. fundamentally, it will be answered by every voter getting to the polls in 2022, and deciding what they want in leaders, and whether integrity matters, and whether service and interest in the public good matters. it will be up to the voters to decide. the only ones who can rein the republicans in are the voters. >> thank you both for your time. coming up, the good news is, the rate of vaccinations is up, but so are the number of americans hospitalized with the virus. an update coming up, when "the 11th hour" continues. continues ♪♪ ♪♪
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sing in harmony and can keep schools and day cares open in person, and we have evidence mounting that if you have even one unvaccinated teach, and doesn't wear their mask, they can infect their classroom, and that can spread. as you know, it can be prevented. >> the president mentioned his administration is looking into offering booster shots to vaccinated adults sooner than the eight month window he had previously announced. you wrote an article warning the confusion could paralyze vaccination efforts. you write, we need a centralized information system to verify vaccination administration, and clear guidance ahead on how to prioritize doses, and we need it before september 20th, when
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boosters are expected to start becoming available to americans. our current system is not adequate. i think anyone who has gotten the vaccine and looked for their card has some experience with that. what issues does the government need to address, and what happens if those issues go unresolved before the boosters become available? >> thank you for bringing it up. this has been a decades-old battle. it's one thing the government can start to do today, actually put incentives for an information standard that all of these disparate vaccine systems, new york, texas, d.c., maryland, every state is doing something differently. they can put forward standards. it doesn't have to be a federal database. it just has to be the ability to communicate. it gives the same language used across these systems.
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and the second thing is truly just consistent communication. i have had so many calls from patients of mine, doctors, friends, and family, they heard five months from the president today. some have heard six, eight months. when i ask for a card, they say, i didn't bring it with me. we're relying on people's memories to aid what i would say is one of the most important vaccination efforts of our generation. >> i want to ask quickly, as hospitalizations and deaths surge throughout the country, any indication that we're approaching a peak? >> yeah, we're seeing numbers cresting, even in some of the dire areas, florida, texas, not all of the parts, but numbers are starting to plateau. what will change the trend is schools. i'm hopeful and we're looking at other countries where they're also plateauing ever so slowly,
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one last thing before we go. as we mentioned earlier in the hour, this sunday marks the 16th anniversary of hurricane katrina's landfall in louisiana. and the state is once again bracing for a major storm. ida became a hurricane today, and forecasters warn it could become a category 3 or 4 hurricane by sunday. that would make it the biggest storm to hit the u.s. so far this year, the potential of 140-mile-an-hour winds and life-threatening storm surge. the mayor of new orleans has ordered an evacuation for those that live outside of the levee
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system. we'll be closely tracking this storm this weekend. and be sure to tune in to "american voices" saturdays and sundays at 6:00 p.m. eastern. tomorrow we'll be joined by julian castro. that's our broadcast for this friday night. with our thanks to you for being with us, on behalf of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. on in the world tonight we are tracking what could be a very, very dangerous hurricane that appears to be aimed at new orleans on the gulf coast. with potential landfall this weekend on sunday. and yes, you are remembering correctly that that would be 16 years exactly since the devastation of hurricane katrina, in that exact part of


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