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moving back the final withdrawal date. good morning, i'm yasmin vossoughian in for hallie jackson and here with dr. john torres joining us this hour. a lot going on, and we knew it was going to come some time today and now we know the fda granting full approval for the pfizer vaccine. what does this mean? >> yes, we knew it would happen some time today, but they said this morning they have granted full approval for the pfizer vaccine which they are now calling -- an they have granted it 16 years and above. so what this now means is they have done six months of data on individuals after getting their second vaccine. they have looked at them, they have made sure it's safe, they have made sure it's effective and now it has permanent full approval. >> what does it mean for the possible mandates in the
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pipeline, dr. torres? >> this is going to make mandates a lot easier and i think you'll see a lot more, yasmine. it has the legal authority behind it saying this what has been vetted and it's been safe and it has the government packing for full, permanent approval. now the institutions like the military with say we will mandate. it was under emergency use authorization, it had been a faster approval process so they wanted to make until the more approval process happened before they start doing the mandates. i think you will see more of those. >> what does it mean for moderna and johnson & johnson going forward? >> pfizer first started to submit the data back in may. it had to be six months after getting vaccinated versus two months for the emergency use authorization. they wait until full submission of all of the date until recently and then got the full
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approval and moderna started theirs in june and johnson & johnson said they'll start in the fall process so they're behind it right now. so moderna possibly next month and by all indications they should be getting it as well and now the big important thing to remember, with full approval it's permanent but it's a more robust approval process. they look at everything to make sure they can give it the permanent approval process. >> i want to be clear on this so folks understand kind of the scope of this full approval and you mentioned it a little bit, but i think it's important for us to repeat. you have full approval, but still emergency use authorization and correct me if i'm wrong with 12 to 15-year-olds with getting the vaccines and then the booster shop for immunocompromised folks. >> exactly. it's for 16-plus, and that's when it first came out and it was for 16-plus. so that's the data they have from early on that they're using for the full approval process.
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for 12 to 15-year-olds it's still under the emergency use authorization and it's being used in different fashions. it can also be used by doctors in other situations, what we call off label situations. so theoretically somebody could get a booster, however, we're still waiting to hear about what the timing is son the boosters and the same thing for the third vaccination. they have already given that authorization for those that are immunocompromised, so looking forward u it looks like boosters again. they're taking september 20th as the start for booster shots and they're still holding to that. >> dr. torres, thank you as always. i appreciate it. i want to bring in the team of reporters. we have kerry sanders in florida, morgan chesky in houston where it's the first day of school there and then cal perry where the schools are shut down due to the outbreaks. kerry, we saw a doctor walk out protesting the high numbers of folks who are getting admitted
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into the icus there because they're not vaccinated. how could this affect things, the breaking news that the fda has authorized full approval of the pfizer vaccine? >> what we saw here, doctors are frustrated and they gathered in this parking lot where i am, more than a hundred or so, gathered here to say enough is enough. and this is coming at the same time as you say with the breaking news of the fda eliminating the emergency use authorization, and nows having approval for the pfizer vaccine. some people are saying i don't like the idea of emergency use and now it's fully approved. dr. jennifer butchner is out here and one of the organizers. your patients who have been fence sitting, the ones who said i don't want to get the vaccine how does this become a game changer? >> we hope this alleviates fear
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in our community and across the country. there's no reason not to get it, the science is there. we know that vaccines work and we hope that this is what our country needs to get to the next place. >> when we saw the folks gathered out here today, it's first time i have seen doctors gathering like this trying to send a message. what does it tell us about the level of exhaustion and frustration that those of you that we rely on say about it? >> we're counseling patients to get vaccinated and it's just not happening. >> does that change today with this approval? >> i hope so. >> but you just hope. we don't really know? >> i can't imagine how it doesn't. if it doesn't alleviate fear, it's so excites to on the frontlines, there's one less excuse that you have. it's fully fda approved. >> thank you for joining us. one thing to note here is when it loses that emergency use authorization, it can all of a
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sudden move to a new level, for instance, the pentagon will now have members of the military getting vaccinated. i mean, there will be a few people who have a complication or underlying conditions that face it. but when it goes from the military it goes down the line to what have similar military structures like police departments, fire departments and of course we know that even in those ranks there have been those who have been really significant numbers who have not gotten vaccinated. as you heard the doctor, she believes everything changes today. >> let's stick with that, the possible vaccine mandates that could be put in place in florida, a place that's being battered by the delta variant. governor desantis has been outspoken about the fact he doesn't want mask mandates in place. what is the likelihood they'll be putting some vaccine mandates in place? >> well, look, you know, if you want to send your kid to school in florida, you must get your
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child vaccinated, mmr, measles, mumps and rubella and there are the few cases of students who are not for religious exemptions. but by and large, it is required. so now it can go to that next level. it's a process, it moves through the process. but, you know, now with the emergency use authorization lifted, it allows other pieces of the puzzle to fall into place. and as you noted there are seven counties in the state of florida with our 67 counties, seven counties that are saying we don't care what the governor says about not having mask mandates we're going to mandate the max wearing and it gets to the vaccines. this is for kids 12 and older so there's a whole elementary school component to this. but this is as we hear from the doctor and we hear from others today, this is a significant step forward in what is a
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growing problem. just in florida, florida, texas, mississippi, alabama, the icus are at 90%. they're 10% shy of full capacity which tells you the crisis that's unfolding here and throughout the south. >> providing a great transition for me to morgan chesky. kerry, i know you have to go so i appreciate you being with us this hour. morgan, let's bring you in the conversation. texas capacity, icus there, schools opening today, kids heading back to school for first time just like in florida, there's been a fight over mask mandates. this breaking news when it comes to the pfizer vaccine could feasibly be a game changer. how do you see things playing out there in texas? >> yeah. that's exactly what i was going to call this and it has full approval, and it's encouraging. a lot of the parents who brought their kids here to parker elementary on the first day of
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school, because they're too young for the vaccine, the next best thing they can do is mask up. this is an encouraging step that age is getting lower when it comes to who can get this vaccine and that's really going to give them a lot of peace of mind. right now, we have heard medical experts in texas say with the return of school, so many going back to in-classroom learning as the delta variant wreaks havoc across the state, it's called a recipe for disaster. and conrow, they have more than 1,400 students in isolation as we speak that have either tested positive for covid or are showing symptoms of covid and that's the reality playing out at districts all across the state and we know that some rural districts have chosen to do online learning.
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but with the full approval, i can tell you certainly an encouraging sign. note, for the parents, rather. as to whether or not anything will happen at the state level we have to look at the track level of -- track record of governor abbott and while he has advocated for the vaccines, recovering from covid-19 himself, i have to imagine with his mask ban still in place, only overruled by the texas state supreme court we're likely not going to see any vaccine mandates come here in message after message after tweet that the governor's put out, he has said while he advocates for vaccines it is always voluntary. so if we're going to see any vaccine mandate here in the state of texas it might come at the corporate level. but we'll be keeping a very close eye on that going forward. >> we have got florida and now texas and let's move on to kentucky where cal perry is standing there for us. you have low vaccination rates in kentucky, but there was a
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mask mandate in place for the students there and they saw a significant outbreak in schools. how can this change things in kentucky? >> look, i'm not sure that it will. i'm not sure i share the optimism of my colleagues and there's a warfare campaign going on on vaccines and masks. you take this appalachian health care system, 13 hospitals, 6,000 employees they made the vaccines mandatory and a number of the health care professionals went home, they walked off the job and they have created a staffing shortage which is why the beds are full and they're sending the patients as far as maryland. you mentioned the mask mandate it's not preventing others from wearing their masks, which is a problem. they had to shut down the schools there last week when 150 students were sent home. take a listen. >> we have had really good success with that in our schools, but when i get out in
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the community, i see that in a lot of public areas there's people -- people are not masking up throughout our county. i'm not sure if a lot of the contamination occurred outside of our schools. >> and this is the pandemic affects all of us story. if you take your kids to school even if they're over the age of 12 and they're vaccinated but others are not wearing masks that can put others at risk. that's a broader story as is true with the vaccine story. keep in mind here, we're at a 13% positivity rate in the state of kentucky. that is a dangerous situation, as the hospitals continue to swell. schools are closed. icus are overrun. it will affect you. if you have an injury or some kind of treatment that you need that is not urgent here in this state, in southern west virginia, it will likely be put off. >> okay. this is a question for both of
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you guys. morgan, i'm going to start with you in your reporting, how often have you heard from those who are vaccine hesitant once this thing is fda approved i'll get immunized? >> that's the sentiment we have heard not only from people outside the school, but particularly there are some health care workers that i have spoken to that have expressed that sentiment as well. we were reporting in louisiana that was incredibly hard hit by the delta variant and some workers said they'd be more comfortable if this received full approval by the fda. another thing i was struck there by is there's this misconception if someone isn't vaccinated by now they're anti-vax, but it was much more being uncertain so hopefully this full approval from the people i encountered gives them the peace of mind that it -- you know, they can go
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out and get this. as so many hundreds of millions have done before, and that was kind of the one thing that in a lot of these people's minds was holding them back because they felt the process was rushed despite seeing the studies and seeing the numbers that it did make a difference. that was the one thing that was keeping them. so we can only hope that pfizer getting the full approval can give the green light for so many other people and going and getting vaccinated. >> cal, same question to you. >> agree with morgan only so far on the undecideds. they say they were worried that this process was rushed will likely now have a little bit more confidence in getting that vaccine, but i'm concerned and i think we need to be realistic about the large number of folks who are unwilling to get the vaccine, who said i'm healthy enough and they will mimic what you see on social, on fox, and it's sticking in a lot of places. >> thank you both for your
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reporting on this. really appreciate it, a big day when it comes to the fda authorization for the pfizer vaccine. so with that, i want to bring in msnbc medical contributor dr. azar. that was a good conversation i had with kerry and with morgan and with cal, because it really kind of paints the picture of what we're dealing with across the country. there's some optimism as there should be with this fda authorization, but cal brings up a good point. there are some folks who say, i'm good, i'm healthy. i don't need this thing no matter what. how optimistic are you especially in your anecdotal reporting on the ground? >> i wish i could tell you i was very, very encouraged this would move the needle where we need it to be. unfortunately, i don't necessarily think that that's the case. yes, i agree, look, it's been
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eight months since the eua, eight months more since the rigorous process to vet the quality of the vaccine, the manufacturing of the vaccine as dr. john pointed out. last week, i saw a patient in the office for the first time. she is a health care worker and she was hospitalized for covid-19 and still only agreed to get vaccinated basically because she required it for her job and that was again someone who was in the health care worker force. in spite of having access to all of the data that we in the medical profession and what we're trying to communicate to our viewers and patients every single day, there are still those folks who are so deeply entrenched in their mistrust and their hesitancy. if they already didn't trust the process, i don't necessarily see how this makes them trust it any more because it's still the same government agency, you know, green lighting something that
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they were already reluctant to do in the first place. >> well, i appreciate that. and that's important, right, we want to be candid about this. that's why we rely on you guys. while i have you, i do want to talk about a little bit about emergency use authorization when it comes to kids getting the vaccination below the age of 12. where are we on this? when we talk about the mask mandates and the people getting vaccinated, and there's a large population, my kids being two of them, cannot get this and once they get that we'll breathe a sigh of relief. where are we on that? >> right. well, first of all, we are only at about a third of eligible kids between the ages of 12 and 16 who have been vaccinated. so i don't think it's going to turn the tide quite as much as we think it's going to just if and when the authorization is
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expanded. but remember, the process while very, very rigorous for adults is even more so when it comes to children as it should be. remember, there are a number of different approaches to studying the vaccine in children. there's de-escalation, meaning you're going down in age and waiting for the 5 to 11 group. there's different dosing strategies making sure they're giving the kids the minimum amount of vaccine that's sufficient to produce the immune response. to specifically answer your question we are hoping to get that really important safety and effectiveness data this fall, meaning as early as, you know, next month in september, and then of course applying for the expansion to the authorization, it will take a number of months before the fda approves and then they'll determine who should be administered it. >> i remember it took two or three weeks -- before we saw the first approval. >> yeah.
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>> thank you. great to see you this morning. still ahead, everybody, here in the northeast, you have flood watches. you have a lot more going on as well. you have deaths and missing people in tennessee because of the historic flooding there. we have a lot of weather coming up. bill karins will join us to tell us what's coming up next. ins wil us what's coming up next r and i'm still working. in the kind of work that i do, you are surrounded by people who are all younger than you. i had to get help somewhere along the line to stay competitive. i discovered prevagen. i started taking it and after a period of time, my memory improved. it was a game-changer for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. one, two! one, two, three! only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ [grunts]
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welcome back, everybody. in tennessee this morning, at least 21 people are confirmed dead. the deadliest flood event middle
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tennessee has ever seen. you have more than two dozen people still missing as emergency responders are searching for the survives there. sam brock's on the ground for us in waverly, tennessee. astounding stuff and really sad. you have 21 dead, still dozens missing as well, sam. what have you been seeing on the ground there especially when it comes to the efforts to find the missing people? >> those rescue efforts are ongoing and people who live here tell me they were seeing homes and storage units and pools floating down their streets. if that sounds implausible because certainly most people would think it is, you look over my shoulder here and what you see are the shell or foundation of where a home used to be and then glance up and i'm told from neighbors here that that house was on this foundation, twirled around completely on a circle and is dangling over the creek nearby. what is normally a docile creek, but the water raged not only through this lot but managed to
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make it across the street up to the porch level and then on the other side, yasmin, there's a highway about a quarter of a mile away. i'm told the water went over the highway. there is a home in a gas station wedged up against it beyond the trees here that's how extreme this situation was and again, if you keep the same line of sight and move further out, you will see what looks like one or two homes, it's actually three, all compressed on the corner lot and one of the homes came from the other side of the street. that's the reality on the ground here. one man described this as a biblical proportions in terms of the impact of the flooding. humphries county which is where i am right now, the sheriff there described the heartwrenching process of who they were finding in the recovery process. >> they just went and got one of my best friends, recovered him. when he was -- he drowned in this. and it's -- i'm sitting here and thinking about that, yeah. it's tough, but we'll move
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forward. >> and yasmin, in terms of just what the levels were like the previous record in tennessee for rainfall in a 24-hour period was 13.6 inches according to the national weather service. they breached 17 inches on surrender so went way beyond a record level. i'm told from a business owner, that people were being rescued on top of her roof. at least four people whose lives were saved as all of this running water was running through a normal neighborhood. they said that the last 100 year flood happened in 2010. here we are, it appears there's another 100 year flood. >> hey, sam, did they have any kind of heads up? did they even think that something like this could happen? did they see it coming at all? >> what i'm told is that there was a flood emergency issued. but no one expected to see something like this happen. i mean, it's hard to predict and
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i guess the question becomes is this a function of global warming and how much moisture could be captured in the air or is this a one off? but we have seen so many of the extreme flooding events across the world and now once again it happens on our home turf here in tennessee. middle tennessee right now is devastated. no one here expected something like this ever could have been possible and yet this is the reality they're living in right now. >> yeah. that's part of the bigger conversation that we do need to have and continue to have. sam brock for us, thanks for your reporting on this. appreciate it. right now, over here in the northeast, henri is triggering more dangerous downpours and flood watches are expected in pennsylvania and new england as well with more than 64,000 homes out of power and more than half in rhode island alone. kathy parker is on the ground for us in narragansett, rhode island. henri made landfall yesterday and now you are getting a better look at the damage.
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what are they seeing? >> hey there, yasmin, good morning to you. the damage looks like what we are seeing right now right behind me. this tree apparently toppled some time yesterday at the height of the storm and pulled down power lines and the entire neighborhood has been without power for several hours now. at last check we have 40,000 customers still without electricity. we are told that the majority of customers will be back online at some point tomorrow, but we spoke with some crews out here as well and kind of depending on how bad the situation is, how much damage your neighborhood sustained, it could be several days before that power is restored. but the big headline here, yesterday, you probably saw it was kind of whipping around. we were closer to the shore yesterday, right by the beach. the winds were just so intense.
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at times, the waves were just crashing over the sea wall and one of the main roads right along the beach had to be shut down because it was so dangerous for cars to kind of pass through there. but obviously, much different situation today. things are starting to clear up. at least for now, but our understanding is that the storm will eventually kind of make its way around here, so right now there's a lull in the weather so folks are out and clearing the damage. you can hear the generators humming in the background, but once again that rain threat looms later on this afternoon and then you have that potential for flash flooding once again. >> all right, thank you. good to see you this morning. we have two breaking headlines, the president is going to deliver remarks on the covid-19 effort at 1:30 eastern today and we'll bring that to you live and we're minutes away from the update from the
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pentagon officials on afghanistan. we're watching the podium there, where an evacuation effort is still going on in kabul. we had afghans trampled in a crowd of thousands and in a memo obtained by nbc news, every time the gates are opened, some 150 people rush through and slowing down the process for those already approved for evacuation. so far, the u.s. has removed 28,000 people out of afghanistan and up to 65,000 still will still need to be evacuated with only eight days remaining before the august 31st deadline. on sunday, sky news was told that that date was a red line. if the united states or the uk were to seek additional time to continue evacuations, the answer is no or there's consequences. for more, i want to bring in
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matt bradley at ramstein air base in germany where thousands of evacuees have started to arrive and mike memoli and welcome to all. matt, i want to start with you on this one. i know you're speaking to a lot of folks on the ground, a lot of afghans that have evacuated from kabul. take us through what you're seeing so far. what they've been telling you. >> well, what we have been hearing from the afghans who have evacuated from kabul who have arrived here, they have not come here directly from kabul. some have come from elsewhere in asia where they have come from kabul before. some came from doha where in colleague richard engel is right now. when they get here, you know, they're well taken care of, they're quite safe. health care, food, they're put up in tents or large hangars that are normally used for equipment and airplanes and there is a palpable sense of relief, but at the same time, to get here, to get all the way here is to have run through a
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horrible gauntlet and that includes a taliban gauntlet at the airport and then we talked to those who slept on the tarmac amidst trash for days with their children, and then after that they went to doha where they were processed and then they came here. everything is taken care of except for one thing -- information. a lot of them have no idea where they're going, when they're going, or what they need to get processed. they have no information from authorities and many of these people i should tell you, they're carrying u.s. passports. they are american citizens and they're very, very angry. but there's a lot of hope and i spoke with one young woman, she's actually a nurse for the army and her name is erin bremer. she's only 28 years old. she on saturday gave -- helped woman, an afghan woman who had gone into labor on the flight to here in ramstein air base.
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and when the flight landed on the tarmac, they even didn't have time to get her off the plane. this young nurse had to help this woman give birth right there on the tarmac. here's what she told me about that. >> she was understandably quite scared and i didn't know if she spoke any english so i was like, you've got this, mama, and trying to reassure her that the team knew what they were doing and she had landed safely in germany. >> so yasmin, there's a lot of tragedy, a lot of anxiety. a lot of concern and a lot of anger, but as i said, you know, there's also some moments of some rare beauty and some surprising tenderness that you just heard from that young military nurse. >> yeah. i have to say, having given birth to two children myself, hearing a nurse saying you've got this mama, i have heard this before and you may not understand it if you don't speak
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english but i'm sure she could feel it. mike, let's talk policy for a moment because i know the president was scheduled to meet with the advisers this hour. what do we know about that? >> well, yasmin, the focus here at the white house continues to be on maintaining if not accelerating the evacuations and the president said they we have been able to expand the perimeter at the airport and while he didn't give the details on trying to get them to the airport from around kabul or outside of kabul. that's one of the big questions over the past week and the latest numbers that we have gotten from the administration officials show that that pace has indeed accelerated. there are 28 military flights that took off from kabul airport yesterday. evacuating more than 10,000 individuals and that's significant as we await the
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pentagon briefing because it was about this time last week that the pentagon officials were hoping to evacuate some 5,000 to 9,000 individuals per day. so they're beginning to pick up the pace as we see not just military craft but the white house pressing civilian airliners to get involved in this evacuation effort. now, the biggest question continues to be will these efforts continue beyond the august 31st deadline. the president yesterday saying that he was open to it, there are discussions about it, but it was not necessarily his preference, especially we're hearing from the taliban representatives there would be consequences if they do so. but the other thing that the white house is preparing for, the president is convening a virtual discussion tomorrow and we heard from some of them, including the uk prime minister boris johnson who plans to press the president tomorrow to extend that deadline. remember, it's not just americans or our afghan partners but so many allies have individuals on the ground they're trying to get out
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safely. >> douglas oliphant, we heard from the president yesterday and he talked about getting the people out. first and foremost was americans and i said in the speech yesterday, if you are an american, you will in fact get out. when he was asked about that august 31st deadline, he said we're in talks and negotiations amongst my team as to whether or not we'll have to extend that deadline. we'd like to get everybody out before august 31st but if we have to extend that deadline we'll try to do that. now speaking with the taliban spokesman saying that's a red line, how does that go? does the white house continue to negotiate with the taliban and who's making the call at this point? >> i think we'll know more and more as we get closer to the deadline. one of the huge problems i'm not sure anyone knows what the denominator is here. how many u.s. citizens are in kabul, how many people decided
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to stay there in august. i have been having phone calls with people who worked on, you know, neo operations. noncombat operations and they said that the u.s. citizens pop out of the wood work, you're never sure how many are there in any given country. i don't think we know how possible it is i think as we get closer to the deadline, if the number of u.s. citizens is down to a trickle by say friday or saturday, well, then we'll have a better sense of what the scope is. if we're still getting hoards of u.s. citizens on friday and saturday then we know we have the problem. >> there's the possibility of leaving behind the other folks beyond the u.s. citizens, right, the allies, the afghans that have helped us for two decades. putting their lives on the line, the interpreters and green card holders and need to seek safety
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while the taliban is there. >> right, at some point there has to be a cutoff line and that's a sad fact. maybe we can get all of the interpreters out. we certainly can't get all of their family members out. we certainly will get all of the green card holders out. but again, maybe not all of their family members that they would like to bring. so there is going to be a cutoff point. whether that's august 31st or some time in september where we just have to say, we are shutting this down and we can only evacuate so many people. as your reporting showed, there's all kinds of people who would like to leave that country, many of whom didn't have any formal relationship with the u.s. government but are still liberal or western enough they would like to get out of there. >> it's interesting that you bring up this idea of a cutoff line, right, because we heard this from the president yesterday talking about the cutoff line, explaining the decisions in the lead-up to the
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evacuation of the military and the troops there. the idea is listen, we had to pull them out no matter what. whether i did it a month ago or i do it a month from now, either way, these types of images, this type of suffering would have emerged from afghanistan. where do you stand on this? >> this was always going to be ugly. now, that is not to whitewash the obvious mistakes that the administration made in the first few days of this. but look, these 5,000 americans -- that's the number that's being tossed around. maybe it's 4,000 or 7,000, again, i don't think we really know. these americans thought it was a good idea to stay in kabul in august of 2021. these were the americans that weren't going to leave until the very last possible moment. so getting them out was always going to be ugly and while some -- again, we all know there could have been better planning.
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we all saw the ugliness of the early days and we'll never forget the images and that needs to be accounted for but that doesn't take away from the fact this was never going to be pretty. >> i want you guys to stick with me as we await the pentagon briefing. i'm going to squeeze in a quick break. we'll be right back. eeze in a q break. we'll be right back. like the new deli-style oven-roasted turkey. and new hickory-smoked bacon. it's the eat fresh refresh™ at subway®. there's so much new we don't even have time for this guy! but i'm tom brady! oh, and there's smashed avocado too! i've spent centuries evolving with the world. that's the nature of being the economy. observing investors choose assets to balance risk and reward. with one element securing portfolios, time after time. gold. agile and liquid. a proven protector. an ever-evolving enabler of bold decisions. an asset more relevant than ever before. gold. your strategic advantage.
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mission control, we are go for launch. um, she's eating the rocket. ♪♪ lunchables! built to be eaten. welcome back, everybody. we are awaiting the pentagon briefing on afghanistan. the minute it starts i'm going to bring it to you, but the president is feeling the effect of multiple ongoing crises. a new nbc news poll showing the approval rating taking a steep dip following the surge in the coronavirus cases and the complicated withdrawal from afghanistan and this takes on added significant as the midterm cycle is beginning to heat up. i want to bring in nbc national
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political correspondent steve kornacki and douglas oliphant is still with us. i want to get an overall picture of the polling coming out on many fronts. where are we? >> the bottom line number with the president is the job approval number. when you look ahead to the midterm elections when you look ahead to potential re-election for the president, you're talking about what's the job approval number and what's the trend here. the last time we took a poll it was at 100 days into his presidency. he was 51% approve, 43% disapprove. now in the middle of the summer, you see that approval is down to 50% and the disapproval is up to nearly 50%. it's 50/48 approve/disapprove. so there's tightening for biden. it goes a long way to explaining this tight i think in, the issues are covid and the economy. at day 100, this was the job
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approval numbers for biden on these two issues. look at this 100 days into his presidency, nearly 70% of voters approved of how biden was handling the coronavirus. and look at this by a 52-43 margin they approved of the way he was handling the economy. now things have changed on both of these issues. here's the assessment of biden on covid. it's down to just 53/44 approval. 42 points positive to just nine. and on the economy it's flipped up side down. more disapprove than approve of it. i think there's pessimism in general that's defining the mood when it comes to covid and we asked folks in april, remember, the vaccines were rolling out. the case counts were dropping and we asked the folks when it comes to covid do you think the worse is behind us, most said that. 19% said that the worst is yet
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to come and that's turned around and a plurality said that the worst is yet to come. that helps explain that change in biden's rating on that as well. >> yeah. let's hope not though. but this polling was taken while we were watching the scenes in afghanistan unfold. where is this polling when it comes to afghanistan and biden's handling of it? >> suddenly, we say covid and economy for the last year and half and for the last week and half it's been afghanistan. this is biden's handling of afghanistan, terrible numbers. 25% approve, 60% disapprove. getting negative reviews. when it comes to the overall attitudes towards afghanistan and the war, we asked folks, hey it's been 20 years was it worth it or not worth it. overwhelming, folks saying that the war was not worth it. 61%. so a lot of folks i think there was a lot of sort of exasperation with the war effort in afghanistan itself.
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but when it comes to how biden handled getting out of it not a lot of support there. >> let me ask you one more question. overall approval is dipping below 50%. did trump ever get that high in his four years in office? >> he never passed 50% approval so biden is a tick or so above where trump got but for democrats the most concerning question, which party do you favor, it's dead even. >> good to see you, steve kornacki. great to have you in studio. all right, and let's tick through this a little bit. because i have to say one of the overwhelming questions i have been getting from folks out and about, how is the afghanistan withdrawal actually going to affect the president long term? we're talking the mid terms as steve was mentioning and then of course we look ahead to the presidential election a long
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ways away. how do you see it affecting the long game for this president? considering i know this is just a snapshot, the numbers we're seeing now. >> yeah. yes, there's some warning signs for the president in those numbers and it goes beyond the question of whether americans think that leading -- leaving afghanistan is a good idea. ending the war, overwhelmingly they do, as your poll shows. you know, that most people think it wasn't worth fighting to begin with, but the president's handling of it, how he's doing what he's doing, you know, really is getting these poor reviews. and they seem to be flailing around not quite sure how to fix that. the white house messaging keeps going back to but leaving is a good idea and that's not the problem. it's how they're leaving. the questions for him politically is what stain that leaves on his credibility, on his, you know, his main argument
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for being president is that he would fix government, make it work. get -- you know, get ahead of covid, essentially go back to business as usual after the tumult of trump. if they can't get this right, it starts to eat away at his core argument that he can do things. he can do hard things and make government work. and that's really the question that you're starting to hear from democrats as well. >> ann, i'm going to step in because it seems that the pentagon briefing is beginning now. let's listen in. >> that's okay. okay, general? >> thank you, mr. kirby. good morning, everyone. and thank you for joining us this morning. once again i want to provide an operational update and then as mr. kirby said we'll follow-up with questions. as we know, this continues to evolve, the situation. we continue to strive on the ground and what we want to do is to continue to provide you details in a timely manner.
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as you know, recently the secretary of defense activated the stage 1 of the civil reserve air fleet. right now, that activation includes 18 aircraft from six commercial airlines. this will from the intermediate staging bases to the united states. while we continue to prior tides military aircraft for the transportation of individuals and out of kabul. these flights will not be flying into kabul. as of this morning in the last 24 hours, 25 u.s. military c-17s, three u.s. military c-130s, and 61 charter and other military flights chartered kabul. the total passenger count was
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approximately 16,000. the u.s. military transported just under 11,000 personnel. our mission remains focused on ensuring a steady flow of evacuees out of kabul and our installations continue to rapidly build out capacity and provide humanitarian assistance. the use of temporary safe locations across the middle east to areas that include u.s. installations in qatar, uae, kuwait, behrain, spain, and germany. we deeply support these countries. this is a testament to our allies. in the past 24 hours five flights landed at dulles international airport with
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approximately 1300 passengers. at this time four military installations as well as dulles are receiving afghans as they come into the united states. they include ft. mccoy, wisconsin, ft. lee, virginia. the total number at these installations it approximately 1200 and they are building out capacity to ensure that they have room for more flights in the coming days. this is a worldwide effort. multiple commands and thousands of service members across the joint force. they are remaining secure. they are regarding an incident to report as a no u.s. casualties, partner force, and
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an afghan security force member lost his life. as the president referenced last night in his remarks, we are in communication with the taliban for the establishment and sustainment of several check points to increase throughput and facility safe passage for individuals working to gain access to the airport. today the number of troops at the airport continues to stand at 5800. commanders on the ground continue to actively monitor threats. they are empowered to make the appropriate force protection decisions. as always they retain the inherent right to use force in self defense. we're using all of our available tools to maintain the highest threat awareness in afghanistan and throughout the globe. while this mission is not without risk, the safety of our personnel, american citizens, and afghan evacuees at risk is
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of paramount importance. we continue to make progress in the completion of this mission. since the end of july we relocated 42,000 people. since the beginning of the evacuation operations we evacuated approximately 37,000. it all stems from the team work and the dedication of our agency allies and partners. we know more hard work is in the coming days and we're prepared to meet that challenge, thank you. >> just a couple other points that i would like to make. as you are all aware, the fda approved full licensure this morning. also as i'm sure you're aware in august on the 9th the secretary articulated his desire to demand
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vaccines upon fda licensure. now the department is prepared to issue updated guidance requiring all service members to be vaccinated. a timeline will be provided in the coming days. the health of the force is as always a top priority. it is important to remind everyone that these efforts ensure the safety of our service members and promote the readiness of the force, the health and safety of the communities around the country in which we live. a schedule item, secretary and general millie will be attending the funeral for donald rumsfeld at arlington national secretary. he was the 13th secretary of defense and the 21st. he also served in the navy in the 1950s as a pilot and flight
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instructor. he continued to be a reservist. on behalf of the department of defense we send our condolences. with that we will start taking questions. >> is it his intention to require the vaccine? >> we're preparing now actionable guidance. we're going to move forward making that vaccine mandatory. we're preparing the guidance right now. and the actual completion date of it, in other words how fast we want to see it done is what we're working through right now. >> a couple things, one is that you said, i think general taylor said a number of times as well
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that the military air lift capacity at the airport was in the neighborhood of 9,000 to 5,000. and you have done beyond that, can you say what capacity has grown to and also can you explain a little more about the perimeter. can you explain more on that. >> on the capacity thing, we exceeded yesterday 9,000. we're not taking anything for granted and we're taking it day by day. we would love to see the numbers continue to rise. we're taking it day by day and there are a lot of factors that go into reaching that output capacity to include temporary safe havens that you can bring the individuals to as they complete their screening. that is a big part of that.
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we have intelligence and law enforcement personnel at these sites making sure the screening is done for these individual sos that no one comes into thenitis that has not been screened in a row bus manner. we were very glad to see that we could get that number out yesterday, but we're going to take it day by day. >> the number of aircraft was it 20 -- no, no. i mean, the same number of aircraft are about available on any given day. we can get up to, on a given day, up to about 30 c-17s. that doesn't mean that 30 are going to fly every day. we were under that yesterday, and still we were able to get out more than 10,000. >> and the perimeter question? >> i think the general addressed this a little, without getting into tactical details here, and
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i think you understand why we wouldn't do that, we are very interested in making sure that access to the airport remains as fluid as possible for american citizens trying to get in as well as our special immigrant visa applicants. there is a lot of factors into making sure that access is secure. and what the president was referring to was efforts to improve that access from a geographical space out beyond the perimeter of the airfield. and i won't speak to the details of how we're managing that, but you can imagine thus far, and going forward, it does require constant coordination and
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deconfliction with the taliban. we're required to keep these lines occupy who do have check points out beyond the airport. we have seen this work well in terms of allowing access and flow. those crowds have been a problem. you heard me talk about this several days ago. they used a helicopter to bring people in and it was largely because of the crowd size outside of the abbey gate. i would like to go back to the incident, can

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