tv The 11th Hour With Brian Williams MSNBC August 20, 2021 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT
don't forget to catch me on sunday's show, every sunday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on msnbc. "the 11th hour," with brian williams, starts right now. well, good evening once again. day 213 of the biden administration and we will indeed have a full look of the news of this day in just a moment. but first, we are tracking tropical storm henri, which has millions of americans and probably a title as a hurricane in its future. so let's start off here for a moment with late live update, for that our meteorologist bill karen standing by with the latest and i've seen models bringing this through the mouth of new york harbor and other models bringing it through the guts of new england, neither place is used to hurricanes, neither is a good solution. >> brian, just seconds ago, looking at this with you for the first time, the new update from
the national hurricane center, they literally came in five seconds ago, the forecast did have the center making landfall at the 5:00 p.m. advisory right into the hamptons, around south hampton, it shifted westward again. now we're making it toward eye -- islip. all of a sudden, 24, 48 hours ago this was in the buzzard's bay and new port and rhode island area and everyone in cape cod who pulled their boats out of the water saying they may catch a break. people from long island, now all of a sudden heading toward new york city and the long island sound, everyone is going we have one day to prepare. that's it. you have saturday. because this storm is coming in in a hurry early sunday morning. the landfall time is up. so let me go to the graphics and giving you a new update and we're still dealing with it as a tropical storm. did not reach hurricane intensity quite yet. and heading to the north finally at 9 miles an hour. and now it's going to accelerate northwards on its journey to new england, and it will parallel the coastline of the carolinas,
and how about that bend at the end to the left? very unusual. doesn't happen that often. yes, it's kind of similar in that bend to what sandy did. but sandy was a different beast than this storm. it was much, much larger. sandy was a huge immense size-wise storm. maybe the same intensity but size-wise, no comparison this. storm will have its own problems though. let's go in closer. you notice the winds will quickly die off. by the time we get to monday morning, wind damage is pretty much done. the wind damage portion of the storm as we go throughout sunday, notice at 8:00 a.m., getting close to the southern coast of long island, talking 10:00 to noon landfall around eye slip. and then it could go through new hichb, that would be the second landfall after crossing the sound and the storm will curve and bend around the hartford area. as brian mentioned we have been watching these squiggly lines and it is interesting, the lack line is the new forecast from the hurricane center. for the first time in a while, a
lot of the new computer models are actually to the right of the hurricane center. that green line still does go through new york city. we will be interested to see if they stay on course in the central portions of long island or shift to the right. if you're anywhere from newport, or buzzard's bay or providence, through the connecticut coastline, you have to watch this one closely. obviously, storm surge will be a huge issue. especially now we're talking 8:00 a.m. high tide, sunday morning, brian, and that could be close to the landfall, so that could be a problem. and here's our wind forecast, we still think the highest gusts will be out of long island, and even those 50 to 60 mile-an-hour gusts in connecticut, brian, there will be millions of people without power come monday morning. we're just kind of waiting to see now how intense the storm can get tomorrow. that's it. it will be over the gulf stream tomorrow afternoon. and if it is going to do any rapid intensification, that's when it will happen. >> bill, usual rules apply. don't quite feel like thanking you, though i sure appreciate the timeliness and the update
tonight, because millions of people are watching this storm. our meteorologist bill karins in the weather center tonight, thank you. now, with that, we turn to the day's other big headlines. the president closed out this chaotic week, as he started, defending the evacuation mission in afghanistan. the administration has rushed troops and aircraft to kabul to speed up the process of helping u.s. nationals and afghan allies get out, as the taliban takes hold. flights have now resumed after a long pause earlier today. some 13,000 people have been evacuated since saturday. at the white house, president biden gave reassurances about the mission, while also warning of the risks. >> this evacuation mission is dangerous. it involves risks to our armed forces. i cannot promise what the final outcome will be. what it will be, that it will be
without risk of loss, but as commander in chief, i can assure you that i will mobilize every resource necessary. let me be clear. any american who wants to come home, we will get you home. we're in constant contact with the taliban, working to ensure civilians have safe passage to the airport. >> here's the important part. our veteran nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel has the latest on the dangers faced by anyone trying to get to the airport, let alone trying to get out. >> reporter: taliban fighters marching through the streets, dressed in all white, the color of the taliban's flag, and the symbol they're ready for martyrdom. while outside, the last remaining u.s. base at kabul airport, chaos continues. this is what crowds have to face to get inside. shooting, violence, taliban whips. american troops worried if they open the gates, people will
flood in. there's desperation and anguish. marines confirm the baby handed to them over a wall is now safe at the airport, reunited with family. inside the base, u.s. troops play with the many children arriving trying to keep them calm. as afghans are processed for departure and move to the flight line. that's where we met gina abawi, an afghan-american from virginia, she moved back to afghanistan to teach six years ago, when it was much safer. >> it was a dream come true for me. a house by the mountains. it was really good. and the status there, my life, i just can't imagine leaving but unfortunately, it's time to go. >> you left obviously the house. >> everything. everything. a small little suitcase and my laptop and that's it. >> she says she doesn't want to leave. neither do the 25 members of her extended family going with her.
>> the afghan flag. >> who knows how much longer it will be there. it's really sad. i'm loping to be back. i'm hoping but i don't know if i will ever be back. >> eventually the c-17 arrives and taxis into position for boarding. for gina, it sinks in. this is. it these are moments that change the trajectories of families for generations. gina's relatives say goodbye to the only home they've ever known. forced out because they don't want to live under the taliban. finally, boarding time. for gina, it's a painful goodbye. for most of the afghans on board, this is the start of their new lives. as refugees. this was supposed to be an evacuation only of american citizens and afghans who worked for international troops, but because of the chaos now in kabul and people rushing the gates, it's become an emergency air lift of refugees as well. richard engel, nbc news, doha,
qua tar. and meanwhile the president revealed today that u.s. forces did have to go outside the airport grounds into the city of kabul to help retrieve americans. >> just yesterday, among the many americans we evacuated there were 169 americans who over, we got over the wall and into the airport using military assets. >> late today, the pentagon confirmed this incident saying three chinook helicopters picked up the americans from a nearby hotel because of concerns for their safety. the pentagon says the u.s. commander on the ground made the call to use the choppers to bring the evacuees over to the airport. even with the chaos outside the airport gate, inside, american troops are trying to bring even the smallest sense of humanity to their mission, as some of the pictures emerging from there now show. many families with children are among the thousands of evacuees, as they wait for flights out of
afghanistan. u.s. service members were trying to make that wait as comfortable as humanly possible. we're also following the latest on the effort to stop the surge in new virus cases in our country. . "the new york times" and "the wall street journal" reporting the fda is aiming to give their full approval, finally, to pfizer's vaccine next week. the "times" says possibly as early as monday. there had been an increase in the pace of vaccinations. the white house says about 200 million americans give or take have chosen to take at least one vaccine dose. many hope that full fda approval will convince the millions of people who haven't gotten vaccinated yet to get that first shot. the recent surge means some companies are postponing bringing workers back to the office. apple, a big one, had planned to reopen corporate offices in october. the company now says that won't happen until at least january, 2022. so with that, let's bring on our starting line on this friday
night, jonathan la mere, white house reporter for the associated press, retired four star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey, former battlefield commander in the gulf, former cabinet member, former member of the national skounz. and former senior policy aid during the obama administration, she is one of our public health experts and a nonresident fellow at brookings. good evening, and welcome to you all. general, given the urgency of the topic, i would like to begin with you again tonight. gutsy call by the ceo to show that we could still pull off an extraction in the dense population, the urban confines, inside kabul. do you expect many more of these, probably we can't expect the kind of thunder runs that became so familiar in the iraq war, but was this a healthy reminder perhaps to the taliban that we still have this kind of air capability?
>> well, look, brian, the good news is, we saw that we have control of the airport now. there are 6,000 troops on the ground. elite infantry, back off the care yes battle group. the u.s. air force has a worldwide surge of their air lift going in. and i noticed that general dempsey just tweeted out a comment that one of his c-17s took off with 871 afghans aboard. i've been in those c-17 planning in an assault airstrip with an m-1 tank on the aircraft, 72 tons, so the situation on the ground is pretty darn good. we're talk together taliban. that's good. there are, i'm sure, sensitive operations going on all over afghanistan, trying to get key figures out, which we shouldn't know about. the problem, as we discuss this, the chaos outside the airport is
extreme, the taliban are in charge, and that's a city of 4 1/2 million people, we are not going to retake kabul, we could if we flew in another division reinforced, that's not going to happen, our purpose is to get out of there, without fighting, extract all of the americans, the ngos, nato civilian, and possibly some of the afghan sibs, or sensitive intelligence people. i wish the president had not said he would guarantee that all of those afghans would get out. those are tens of thousands of people. it's not going to happen. they're going to have to put them in adjoining states. so we have to be careful what we say both in the white house and the d.o.d. and state. >> jonathan, the general gives us the perspective of not only the military but where the
military intersects with the political, and realism on this day in 2021. tell us about your beat that appeared to be damage control on display in realtime today. was there a feeling among those around the president that it was fixed or at least calmed a bit today? >> i think the word is stabilized, brian, although only somewhat. this is, if we're looking at this in shear political terms, of course, this is far more than that, it is a foreign policy crisis, a humanitarian crisis but if we look it at in terms of politics, it is a tough week for this white house, taking heat from both sides of the aisle, the images out of afghanistan damaging and heart breaking and the statement, defiant, missing the empathy that has come to define this president. we heard more of that today. certainly the insistence that this is the right thing to do, that it is time to pull out the u.s. presence from afghanistan. this president at least publicly is not second-guessing how it's
done. probably behind the scenes we know there have been some regrets in the white house in senior levels of government about the nature of these evacuations. we also heard from the president today for the first time, a real vow to get those afghans out, too. ideally by that august 31st deadline. which certainly was applauded by many as the right thing to do. but it will be a difficult challenge. and as the general said, the airport is secure but certainly the area around the airport is far less so. it is a treacherous journey and the state department has warned americans they can't guarantee their safety getting to that airport so we may see more missions like those helicopters you described. but this is the, the weight of this matter is certainly well in, the white house knows, this they understand that they're dealing with a crisis here. president biden was supposed to be on vacation this week. he shuffled those plans repeatedly. he was supposed to go back to delaware today. he delayed that. he is not going back to tomorrow. he is meeting with his advisers around the clock on the situation. they feel they have taken a step in the right direction. they've got a long way to go.
>> so dr. pa tell, as you well know, some of the vaccine hesitant and some of the people we have seen interviewed on television cite the following as their reasoning. well, they haven't been approved by the fda. hopefully, doctor, that goes by the boards next week. and then moderna will be next. and then we will have these two vaccines, j&j possibly following, that are already in the arms of 200 million people, getting official fda approval. do you expect that to lead to more shots in arms? or was that perhaps just a talking point? >> well, brian, i hope it leads to more shots in arms. i don't think it will lead to as many as we need. if you look at the age categories of who is vaccinated over the age of 65, 91% of americans are vaccinated. that's incredible. under 65 is a different story. 62%. how many of those 12 to in this case 12 to 64-year-olds will be
convinced by a full licensed approval? that is to be determined. one thing is clear though. you're seeing more and more mandates in place. the full approval will give employers the justification they needed, if they did need one and they don't need it legally, but many push back on employers, and this leads the way for employers to put mandates in place. >> general, i'm going to play for you something that was said earlier today by congressman seth mulden who as you know in addition to being a marine veteran is a democratic congressman from massachusetts. he made the following comment on cnn, that for a lot of people kind of summed up the frustration and worry. we'll discuss on the other side. >> we learned that a tremendous amount of the success of this operation is in the hands of the taliban right now. that we're counting on the taliban to allow us to get people safely to the airport. we're counting on the taliban to allow us to continue this operation and not massacre
people long enough for it to be complete. that we're counting on the taliban not to attack our forces on the ground. it's extraordinary that we put ourselves in this position. >> general, i know you share in the frustration. do you agree with his center holding there? >> sure. very knowledgeable. decorated marine. multiple tours in combat. a very thoughtful man. i think we need to remind ourselves, look, president ghani came to president biden and said don't pull the plug, leave people in place, if you evacuate your embassy, you'll trigger the collapse of government. i think that's what happened. then it came apart almost immediately. over the course of a month or so. so i have great sympathy for what happened to the president of the united states. now, he's got a mess. this isn't going to be a pretty picture from now until index.
>> jonathan le mire, my list of agenda item force this white house has uncontrolled pandemic, and a mess in afghanistan. what else is on their agenda for next week, dare i ask? >> brian, they've got their hands full, to be sure. but next week the house of representatives also comes back. so that means back to domestic agenda as well. look, there's no question, the situation in afghanistan is going to dominate the headlines as is the surge in the delta variant. we will hear from the president time and again about vaccines but this is also the next steps toward the infrastructure deal, both the bipartisan portion and the reconciliation package, as the white house tries that very difficult balancing act of trying to convince both the progressives that the package is not big enough and the moderates who think it is far too big. they've all got to vote and they have to vote at the same time. and it does seem despite what the moderates say, the only thing to gets it passed if they do the things in tandem.
that will move to center stage next week. >> dr. patel, you get the last word tonight, in the corporate and tech community, when apple speak, people listen, and when apple pushes their back to work date into first quarter of 2022, it got the attention of a lot of people. what do they know that we perhaps don't? >> i think what they know, brian, is that we're not done with delta. we haven't seen cases decreasing. we're going to be in this for many weeks and candidly if we can't raise our vaccination rate way above what we achieved to date, we are going to probably expect a dismal thanksgiving and christmas, because we know that this virus spreads largely through these gatherings, and social networks, and i think apple has kind of forecasted that, and realized that it is better to be safe than sorry. >> well, the news isn't happy but it really is, and from politics, to the military, and to medicine, we are so grateful to our starting front line on
this friday night. our thanks. coming up, why lindsey graham was on fox news today, talking about president biden, and the subject of impeachment. and later, the lieutenant governor of texas had some rather controversial thoughts when it comes to who is to blame for the spike of cases in his state. spoiler alert. he's not blaming his boss. footnote. his boss has covid and is anti-mask. all of it as "the 11th hour" is getting under way on this last weeknight of this busy week. eek. [sfx: radio being tuned] welcome to allstate. ♪ [band plays] ♪ a place where everyone lives life well-protected. ♪♪
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for 20 years, afghanistan has been a joint effort with our nato allies. we went in together and we're leaving together, and now, we're working together to bring our people and our afghan partners to safety. >> on those rescue efforts, here is what republican senator lindsey graham had to say today. >> the only way in hell we're going to get our people out is for the president of the united states to tell the military, use the full force and might of the u.s. military to get every american out and all of those who fought along our side. unless the president gives that order, we're going to leave thousands of people behind, and if we do, president biden should be impeached for dereliction of duty. >> so on that, and for more, we are joined again by two of our friends, don calloway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund, and bill
kristol, writer, thinker, editor at large at the bullwark. don, now we've heard from the cheap seats, let's hear from you. do you think it is a little bit over-amped? what do you make of the criticism of this president? what do you make of the president's response? >> i think that the president's response has evolved over the course of the last week, from what we saw on sunday when this crisis first broke to his most recent statements today and yesterday, and i think we are starting to see some more of the empathy as you pointed out in the last segment, and more importantly with the statements regarding nato today, he made it clear that there was strategy, serious militaristic thinking behind this, that there was pre-determination behind this, and ultimately it was not a unilateral effort often the part of america. that this has to involve nato, this has to involve global peace-keeping and peace enforcement forces, and we heard that in a way that we hadn't heard that earlier in the week, and it gave me a little bit more
comfort about the strategy on it. lindsey graham can shut his mouth. impeachment, i mean, and this is the danger of the rightful impeachments that were inflicted upon the florida retiree, that we just knew that come january, republicans would be wanting to find any old reason to throw out the impeachment term. we heard it from senator rick scott last week, and the 25th amendment, that craziness and we heard it from lindsey graham now, and that's exactly what you said, that's from the peanut gallery and the cheap seats, that's for the fox news audience. >> and we don't like to quote the insurrection and big lie enthusiasts, we merely do in this case to let people know it's out there. bill, this one is coming to you. and this is aaron david miller, the veteran state department middle east hand, he wrote this on social media tonight. media coverage is turning afghanistan into the fulcrum of
western civilization and biden's withdrawal, however incompetent, into a narrative of cosmic betrayal, incompetency, collective compromise of security, and liberal value, and the end of u.s. influence. enough already. bill, is there a good chance he might be right? >> i don't really think so, actually. i mean it's nice to sound sophisticated, oh, we shouldn't be so upset, taum calm down, take the big picture and people did that in 1979 with the iranian revolution and the hostage crisis and we got to it eventually and iran was pretty krool and trouble-making theocracy, 40 years later, afghanistan was the site of 9/11, and what is happening in terms of u.s. values and u.s. foreign policy is very serious, i think. i hope it ends up being a kind of footnote in the history of this decade and something that
is difficult and we made our way through, and we may, we may, we are a strong country, we have a strong military, we may have got off to a very bad start this week, we may get most of our people out, get most of the afghans out, get all of our people out, get most of the afghans out and breathe a sigh of relief but there are s-an awful long way to go there and things could go wrong and the taliban could have consequences of afghanistan and consequences in, jetting a jump start once again into the most radical forms of jihadism, so no, i'm not one of those who thinks people are overreacts, i'm sort of a lindsey graham on the substance of this most of the way but it is so discreditable to play that impeachment card the way he did and i think you played it earlier, some of the most criticisms, soundest constructive criticisms of joe biden come from democrat congressman. a lot of them younger post-9/11
veterans, like seth molten and jason crow and tom, from the state department, and i would encourage that there is a decent level of discourse in washington, except lindsey graham who knows a lot about foreign policy and who i tend to agree with on some of these issues can't resist playing that ridiculous, mentioning impeachment, and turning it into a political carnival. >> both of these gentlemen have agreed to stay with us thankfully. coming up on the other side of this break. when our conversation continues of what's next in the battle over voting rights? remember those, in the state of texas, after three of those quorum-busting democrats returned to the state capital. when we continue. ts returned to the statcae pital. when we continue [♪♪] if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost today.
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their voting restrictions bill. still, with us thankfully don calloway, bill kristol and bill, i know we had versions of this conversation before but in the real world and especially in washington, how, what is the last best way, in your view, now, to federalize voting rights, not just in texas, but everywhere? >> the house has to pass the new version of the john lewis bill next week. and then senator schumer and joe manchin have to sit down and work out what will be a manchin, a narrower targeted accommodation of the old hr-1 and old hr-4, in other words the big election voters, voter election and voter overturning and john lewis bill and put it all into one bill in the senate, manchin is apparently working on this, and working with other sponsors of the legislation and schumers and if they can get 50 votes on that and i don't know if they can get any republicans,
maybe one or two and then manage to break the filibuster. one of the additional reasons we have said about what is happening in kabul, apart from its own importance, obviously, is to the degree that it weakens joe biden, i'm worried that it weakens his ability to push very hard for the pro-democratic cause in the u.s. it's not only democracy in the world at stake. it's democracy in the u.s. a weakened biden administration, and being in support of joe biden, cares a lot about the liberal democracy, elections and the like, this is one reason i find that the current situation very frustrating and the foreign policy, so they can actually see these reforms that are necessary through here at home. >> what we just witnessed and what it all mean, that democracy is not a given in this country. hey, don, a change of subject but a subject you and i have discussed on this broadcast and that is the pandemic.
the following took place, it happened last night, it aired last night, i've been wanting to talk to you about it today. here is the lieutenant governor of texas. >> the covid is spreading, particularly most of the numbers are with the unvaccinated and the democrats like to blame republicans on that. well, the biggest group in most states are african-americans who have not been vaccinated. the last time i checked, over 90% of them vote for democrats in their major cities and major counties. >> don, have at it. >> i'll do my best to have at it without cussing. first of all, african-americans are about 13% of the population in texas. so statistically, if there is a covid spread which apparently there is in texas, apparently according to the lieutenant governor has nothing to do with failure to mask up or anti-mask policies but it has something to do with black folks who are a substantial minority of the population, well behind white folks and well behind latinos in
the state. but you can see how statistics lie here. it is easy to spout such statistics without pointing out a very real and very painful history of the united states, the american medical system, intentionally using black boiz as essentially guinea pigs and lab rat and of course we heard the term tuskegee but we're talking about forced sterilization and eugenics and brain experiments throughout the american south. we're talking about black fraternal health in which african-american women's pain complaints are still not taken seriously and you see black maternal mortality at a substantially higher rate than the white counterparts so when we're talking about african-american vaccine hesitancy and yes we are substantially behind white counterparts in terms of vaccine adoption, that is because it doesn't turn off overnight. it is a very real and very recent history of american medical malfeasance, very intentional and sometimes negligentful malfeasance towards
black bodies, it doesn't turn off just because we're trying to save ourselves from a global pandemic. so if he had any sense, he would be using his platform as an elected leader in the state of texas to investigate in communications and resources and looking at the disinformation to african-americans and instead of blaming the miner's canary and a literary reference he probably wouldn't understand but the same guy who would sacrifice grandmothers and grandfathers who are old and dieing in the pandemic, and he said that in a year ago, and patrick is a moron and he should probably sit his ass down. >> that is why i asked and that's why we continue to have these two gentlemen on the broadcast, our two friends bill kristol and don calloway, jackson state tigers, we see you tonight. gentlemen, try to have a good weekend. one of the president's presidential historians is lear to reflect on a chaotic week for the president and his team when we come back. e president and hi we come back .
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i'm president of the united states of america. and the buck stops with me. the basic choice is, am i going to send your sons and your daughters to war in afghanistan, in afghanistan, in perpetuity? >> the plan is for every adult to get a booster shot eight months after you've got your second shot. now we have a mission. a mission to complete in afghanistan. >> back with us tonight to reflect on all that we've seen this past week, celebrated author, presidential historian, michael berbloss, whose latest work is "presidents of war," michael indeed you've given us reasons to think about you this week, as has the president, and considering your studies are almost exclusively about the u.s. presidency, i'd love you to put this week and this presidency in context.
is it as indelible as it seems in the fierce urgency of now, especially when you even glance at social media? >> i think maybe a historian four years ago would do well not to look at social media this week. not because a lot of what was said was not right. this was not a textbook of great presidential leadership in evacuating a country that we've been at war in for 20 years. and joe biden certainly did not get every word right he spoke this week and those have been horrible images from afghanistan, terrible human stories, which we'll be learning more about i think probably for a very long time. but historically it will all come back to did joe biden make the right decision to end american involvement in the war in afghanistan? this is a campaign promise that he had made, this is something when people voted for him last year, they knew that this was
his view, if they paid attention. this is something that could have been expected. and i think above and beyond that, you were kind enough to mention presidents at war. the big lesson that you get, if you look at american history for 200 years, is if you're an american president who is conducting a war, the war doesn't work, if americans don't understand it, if they don't support it, and the war in afghanistan sadly, unlike 20 years ago, we did it in response to 9/11, properly in my view, 20 years later, it turned into nation building, it turned into a corrupt government, it turned into something that many americans not only have not supported, but an amazing number, according to polls, are not even aware that we have been at war in afghanistan. >> a further reason of thinking of you this week is the talk of lbj comparisons and parallels and your intense concentration
as an author and historian on president johnson. in fact, there was something written in "the post" yesterday by david ignatius that i wanted to read and get your take on. he writes it this way. the reversals in afghanistan are confounding for a biden national security team that has rarely known personal failure. jake sullivan, the national security adviser, went to yale, oxford, yale law school. antony blinken, secretary of state, attended harvard, columbia law. these are america's best and brightest, who came to the messy end game of the afghanistan war with spotless resumes. that's one of the parallels to the vietnam war, where a similar group of brilliant policy makers who had rarely experienced failure was confounded by an obdurate enemy from another century. and michael, this is a direct callback, reminding everyone that with the death of jfk, lbj inherited all of those advisers
and cabinet members. he used to call them the harvards. and certainly it can be said that during his youthful years in texas, he never met anyone named mcgeorge until he got to the white house. >> and maybe later on he felt that that was not a bad thing since he and mack bundy did not end up too well, they were on opposite sides. but i understand where david is coming from. and i'm much too polite to note that ignatius himself went to harvard so he knows whereof he speaks. but i think if you try to explain this in terms of the people who were as linden johnson would have said, too smart for their own britches, as you know, brian, that comes from a talk that lbj had with sam rayburn in 1961, and lbj was saying how great all of these people under jfk were, the new president and sam rayburn said yes, they all sound very smart,
but i sure wish lyndon, one of them had run for office. well the people that you have mentioned have not run for office. but joe biden has. and joe biden has a national political career of 50 years, and as you and i know, there's a lot of failure there, there's a lot of tragedy, personal tragedy, he's lost for president, on several occasions, or at least did not, the first time he ran in 1987, even get to run beyond a short period of time. so i think the fault does not lie in a president who is overeducated or perhaps doesn't have enough emotional -- >> this is unfair that, to limit you to 45 seconds, but i must. what has more staying power, to remain as a stain and embarrassment on our country? our capital ransacked by our own citizens? or this botched kind of bee cackle unfolding in afghanistan?
>>. >> not even close. this is what disengagements from war looks like. it can be done more gracefully and more competently than we've seen this week. general mccaffrey, our great friend barry said a little bit earlier, there's a reason for that, which is that the americans right or wrong did not want to look as if, you know, this war was being lost, the struggle with the taliban. but at the same time, you know, you compare that, and disengagements like the end of the hungarian uprising, 1956, 170,000 refugees. vietnam 1975, 130,000. those are turbulent rocky exits. but compare that to the 6th of january, americans encouraged by a president of the united states, donald trump, to attack the congress, attack the capitol, almost a hostage crisis, possibly an assassination, could have been,
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last thing before we go tonight, one last look at tropical storm henri. important here for several reasons. first of all, it's headed up and over a huge population center. that includes areas that are not used to these kinds of storms. and that would be long island, new york city, new england, the last big one to hit new england was hurricane bob, that was 30 years ago this week, and if you're watching from the northeast, figure you have 24 hours, give or take, to get where you're going. and this is changeable for a large part of the day, forecast models range from the storm slamming into new york harbor to making a direct hip to the tip of long island, new york. either way it looks like long island, coastal connecticut, coastal massachusetts, will likely get tossed. that means the cape and the islands, block island, east to nantucket and martha's vineyard, from providence to provincetown, it is time to pay attention to this. that's because hurricanes move counter-clockwise, the eastern
side of the storm always gets the lashing. that also means closed airports and suspended ferry service, don't forget at the height of the vacation season. flooding rains and storm surge guaranteed. not helping, full moon. very high tide starting sunday. the day of arrival. here's the best we can do at this hour. the 11:00 p.m. eastern time advisory, the bad news is veering the path a bit more westerly over long island into the connecticut coast and meandering north. remnants of this storm will still linger when we see you next at 11:00 p.m. eastern time on monday. one point here, a personal privilege from an old school broadcaster, your local news on your local affiliates, your local meteorologists will know your area better and will be better able to pinpoint your forecast than the app on your phone. so stay safe out there. that holds for folks on the run from wildfires in our west, just as it stands to everyone in the cone of uncertainty here in the east tonight.
and that will do it for our friday night broadcast and for this week, with our thanks for being here with us. have a good weekend. stay safe out there. on behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. there is a lot going on tonight, particularly for friday. a lot of news we are tracking. james look porsche, a u.s. marine, he was an infantry man who was a veteran of the war in afghanistan. he is also an excellent journalist. we've had him here on the show several times, featuring his reporting from, among other places, the military times. mr. look for that now works as a correspondent for the associated press. and tonight he was first to break the news that a new phase is underway, at least a new resources being brought to bear on the evacuation