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good to be with you, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. there is breaking news out of the pentagon. moments ago, the pentagon said that all u.s. military must be vaccinated by mid-september. the vaccines will save lives, period, and we will get a live report from the pentagon in a couple of moments. and now, pleading with parents to get vaccination, because covid numbers among kids are rising sharply with the hospitals filling up with crisis capacity levels. and doctors are telling us that
unvaccinated parents are bringing covid into the hospitals. some hospitals have been hit particularly hard. in some cities the pediatric wards are filled up. this is a mom from houston whose 11-month-old baby girl had to be flown 150 miles away for treatment. >> it was probably like one of the most heartbreakingest things as a mom i had to go through. i didn't want to have to see her go through that. it was really painful to have to see her hooked up to all of the machines and airlifted away and knowing that i could not be with her when she needed me the most. i would recommend everybody getting the vaccines and even though you can get covid with the vaccine, and i think that it is so very smart decision to get vaccinated. >> that is just unimaginable, and my heart goes tout the mom,
and that crush is coming as the kids in some states are back in school with more of the states following soon. as we have been telling you in places like florida and texas leading the new surge, the governors have banned mask mandates in schools. but just said that some schools are saying that kids will have to wear the masks despite the governor's orders and now, there is vaccines for all educators and it is not about them, but it is also about the kids in the care, because as the new york times said, it is not about them, but what had sparked like the smallest of the silver linings that covid mostly spared children might actually be changing. joining us is courtney cube and also joining us is our expert from children's hospital, and
so, courtney, as we get this breaking news from the pentagon, and tell us what we know so far? >> this is unexpected, but secretary austin has informed the force that he is going to require all u.s. military to be vaccinated, and that, that is going to begin no later that mid-september, and the timing is up in the air, because it is going be mid-september or before that if one of the vaccines, particularly the pfizer one will receive full authorization from the fda and whatever happens first is the time line for the covid vaccine to be added to the list of the mandatory vaccines for the u.s. military. this is expected. president biden asked secretary austin to look into this two weeks ago now, and secretary austin said he was open to making it mandatory. the reason that the u.s. military did not make it mandatory before is the fact that it was not under full, and none of the vaccines is had a full authorization from the fda
and because of that, it would require a waiver from the white house to make it mandatory for service members, and now according to the memo from secretary austin, he says that he believes that the pfizer vaccine is going to receive that authorization in the coming weeks and he has made this decision with the joint chiefs and medical professionals to make it mandatory for the service members. then after that, we saw a statement from white house pointing out that 350 million people have gotten these vaccines, and the white house says they are safe, and that it is a matter of keeping the military safe and ready to deploy. >> dr. hotez, what do you make of this the members of the military getting the vaccine, and do you feel more is to come with the fda authorization? >> well, yasmin, it is looking that way and because the virus is so transmissible, and when you get a virus with the
reproductive numbers and looking at the numbers of six or seven or eight really transmissible, the only thing that you can do is to vaccinate other than masks. masks help, but the vaccinations are the gold standard for stopping that transmissible virus, and that is 0.1 and 0.2, and we are seeing lots and lots of young people here in the medical center which is the world's largest and the median age is in the 30s, and that is a lot of people in the mill tarnlg as well. so if we are going to safeguard the troops, we have to demand that they get vaccinated in order to keep the military safe. >> dr. hotez, sticking with the fda authorization, and talking about the vaccine authorization, and one thing they cited is that it was not authorized by if fda and now as we are turning to the fda authorization, do you hope
that more folks will get vaccinated a and this is the direction that we will go? >> i think that approval will get more people approval to get vaccinated, but i hope that the anti-vaccine lobby has a number of fake talking points, and one of them is that because these are released through emergency use that humans are being experimented on, which is nonsense. so some may be convinced now to be vaccinated because of the approval, and others will resort to the laundry list of the other disinformation points. so it is going to be good to get it off of the table, and move forward on this. i don't know that it is going to solve a lot of problems in terms of the hesitancy. >> and so, vaughan hillyard, you are in florida, and discuss the variants, and we heard the heartbreaking video from the mom whose child had to be airlifted
away, and what is happening in a tallahassee as the kids are ready to return to school. >> yes, yasmin, you are talking about kids here, and this is a population of kids younger than 12 years old, and 12 and younger, they don't have access to the vaccine, and the pharmaceutical companies and the fda say there is no vaccine readily available that the fda has deemed safe for these kids set to enter back into school. the 11-month-old child i am told by the mother is now recovering, but i was talking to her this weekend after that, 11-month-old was airlift and she thought that she had a cold, but not until 12:30 at night that her daughter started to seiure that she took her to the hospital, and she saw her daughter air vacced, and that is when she had 104 degree temperatures. that is what is alarming parents as they send the children to school. four governors have banned the schools from requiring the maxes
in florida, texas, arizona, iowa, south carolina, utah which is alarming parents. i want you to meet one of them, amy matlock here who is considering whether to send her kids to school here in tallahassee on wednesday. >> so, if there is no mask mandate in the schools, you not necessarily going to send your kids back? >> i don't feel safe sending them back without a mask mandate. >> reporter: what is your message to parents who don't want to send their kids with a mask? >> help me to protect my children from this deadly virus. >> and so as this is coming to a head, in florida, as it is now impacting the young kids, you will see the young kids entering back into the classrooms and in some places, dallas county schools here just in the last hour now defying governor abbott's order, and phoenix
defying governor duecy's order, but some are threatening to deny funding if they defy the order, and it is not vaccines, but just maxes here. >> and many parent, and me being one of them, is wondering if delta is affecting kids differently than alpha. we are hearing of more kids in the icu, and hearing of the young child being airlifted and hospitals filled to the brim. this is what the "new york times" said, most children have mild symptoms, and no evidence to conclude that delta has caused more symptoms than alpha, but a confluence of factors including the delta's contagiousness, and children under 12 are not eligible to be vaccinated is sending more children to the hospital especially in areas of the
country where the virus is surging. do you agree with that? >> more or less. i think that what is happening is a firestorm across the southern states, and everyone who is not vaccinated is getting swept up in this including kids and even younger kids. i think that probably accounts for a lot of the pediatric icu admissions. there is also some evidence, and it is not strong yet overall that delta may cause more severe illness as well, and that is a component, but it is clear what is happening even before the schools are opening, but just as they are opening, we are seeing for the first time that i can remember pediatric intensive care units now getting overwhelmed. and we have seen the icus getting overwhelmed, but pediatric icus, and this is scary, because now that school is open, if they are not masked or vaccinated, that is going to be a huge accelerant, and could overwhelm the pediatric icus.
and we could have mask mandates universal, and every kid over 12 needs to be vaccinated to attend schools or it is not going to work. what is going to happen is that the kids will get sick, and the schools will close, and we go back to virtual learning, and nobody wants to see that happen. so if the governors who are opposing the mandates are serious about protecting our kids and serious about keeping the schools open, it is simple as that. >> courtney, vaughan, dr. peter hotez, thank you for spending the time with us. very much appreciate it. today is marking a major milestone in america's borders. americans were able to cross over to canada this morning without undergoing this strict quarantine rules going in place since march of 2020, but not as simple as it was in pre-pandemic times of course, and not applying to everybody. joining us from the united states/canada border.
thank you for joining us on this, kennison, and this is a really big day for families who have been apart for over a year now. >> it is a big day. it is significant and where we are standing right now, it really highlights the significance of all of this, and of course, detroit is to the right there, and across the river, you can see windsor, ontario, canada, and feels as though you can touch it. but for a year now, 17 months, and you have had family members coming to parts like this, wave and distantly see their relatives there, to cross the bridge and they have not been able to touch their loved ones. but that changed today, because they are able to cross over and be tourists on the canadian side. they have to do a number of things in order to get over there to fill out the forms, but many say it is well worth it.
>> reporter: what do you think that the emotions are going to be like? >> i don't know. i hope i don't start crying. but i might. because i am feeling verklempt now. i knew when it opened, i would be over on the first day. my mother is going to be 94 in october, and i mean, i haven't seen her in a year and a half. i can't wait to see her. and my brother and sister and everybody. >> well, besides personal impact, it was devastating economically, and some estimates said that the every month that the border was closed, it cost both sides $1.5 billion. and so when will the canadians do the opposite and come here to the united states, that is a sticky subject and tbd, yasmin. >> that is a emotional reunion this morning.
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these are not hugs that he would give his mother or, you know, his brother. these were the hugs with the intention of getting some personal sexual satisfaction out of. >> what did you say? >> i did not say anything. i did not say anything this whole time. people don't understand that this is the governor of the state of new york. there are troopers outside of the mansion, and they are not there to protect me, but to protect him. >> and that is the staffer who accused the governor of sexual harassment is now speaking out. brittany commisso is identified as victim number one. she filed a criminal complaint
against the governor last week, and the governor has not been charged of a crime yet, and he has disputed the crime of 11 separate women in the attorney general's report, and despite the growing calls, the governor has showed no signs of stepping down. but in the last 24 hours, we have seen the resignations from two women tied to cuomo long-time aid melissa derosa, a high profile secretary and roberta caplan who is a long time chair. and there is also impeachment proceedings being weighed against the governor. and so now, dasha burns joining us as well as marcia our legal expert. so now, talk us through where we are at this moment. >> yeah, it is any moment now that we are going to get more
details on how this process is going to go, but yasmin, i will tell you that all signs are pointing in the direction of impeachment at this point, and the question is just the time line. we know that by friday, the governor's legal team needs to submit evidence to the judiciary committee. the committee then reviews that evidence, and from what i have been hearing from the lawmakers, it is going to be at least a few weeks before we get the articles of impeachment, and before we get to any kind of vote that will see how the most recent events of the last 48 hours or so are impacting this process in the minds of lawmakers in a few minutes, but i will tell you that as i have been speaking to the assembly members, the consensus is there and votes are there to impeach the governor of new york state. it is a matter of when and not if at this point according to the sources that i have been speaking with. at this point, the heat is only turning up as we just heard.
you played that sound bite there directly from brittany commisso and identified as executive number one in the attorney general's report, and her allegation, yasmin, they range from insensitive and inappropriate kissing and hugging to perhaps the most egregious claim in that report is that the governor groped her. she claims that he put his hand under her shirt and cupped the breasts, and she went into some detail about that incident in the interview s and the governor denies that incident happen and any wrongdoing in the allegations in the report, but it was striking, and in a different level here, and hearing the words and the emotion in her voice as she talked about what happened and hearing from her about the fear of the power of the governor's office, and how terrified she was to speak out until she mentioned that moment, yasmin, when the governor said that he never touched anyone
inappropriately, and that struck a chord that she could not ignore and that is what made her decide to come forward, and at the same time the island that the governor finds himself on is shrinking even more. the long time aide secretary to the governor melissa derosa is stepping down, and that is significant and she has been alongside through thick and thin for many years, yasmin. >> and barbara, talking through several scenarios taking place with the governor and as dasha was speaking, charles lavine was on the screen talking at the press conference that we are monitoring. and so, you have one criminal investigation in albany and another in westchester and going down the state to manhattan and all three simultaneously taking place, and how do they progress and when do they go from investigation to charge, and could they affect one another? >> i think they could, but one of the things that is very
important in a criminal case is the admissibility of evidence of prior bad acts, and so if somebody did something that they are charged with is not admissible, because it is not assumed that somebody has a propensity to commit a crime, but if there is something that proves the motive or the lack of mistake or the m.o., then those things become admissible, and hearing such consistent stories from the 11 women that i think that the acts in the other ten cases could be admissible in the individual cases that are charged, so i think that the prosecutors are exploring all of the evidence, but there is the value when you have multiple people telling the same story, that they begin to corroborate each other. >> dasha, any indication that you could be hearing from the governor, and also talking about the friday deadline of the governor submitting ed to the investigatory people who called
the evidence from him? >> yeah, in the opening statement this morning from the judiciary committee, the chair did say they will absolutely look at any and all evidence that the governor's office does provide, and they have until friday to do so, but we have not yet gotten any indication of the or when he is going to speak. i will say that his attorney rita glavin did say that he is going to be addressing the allegations around the state trooper. she said that he is going to be addressing that directly, and the legal team has not addressed a lot of statements or spoken about that particular piece of the report, and she said that he wants to talk about that himself, and she did not give a time line about that, and yasmin, briefly one interesting anecdote, and plane flying over with a banner here about 15 minutes that said we stand with cuomo.
and not clear who that "we" is in this case, because we have not heard anyone speaking publicly or anyone that we have been talking to in support of the governor, and as you know, the list of folks distancing themselves from him is growing, but it something that we have been seeing up in the air today. >> and just the opposite was flying over the capitol when i was up there reporting when that banner read it is time for the governor to step down. so, there is a lot happening with the situation to say the least. thank you, dasha burns and barbara mcquade is going to stick around for a couple of minutes because i need to ask you some more questions. and in the 3:00 p.m., dasha will be coming up in the 3:00 p.m. hour, and so you don't want to miss that. and now, the dixie fire is still burning, and how to keep it from wiping out more towns on the map.
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all summer, i have spoken about how the senate is going to speak on two tracks. and some called the two tracks are unrealistic and unachievable in a slow time line and slow-moving chamber, but we have managed to steer two trains at the same time. there have been some bumps, and there have been some delays, but the senate is on track to finish both tracks. >> all right. after working through weekend, the senators returned to capitol hill this afternoon to finish the debate on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. and that puts them on the time line to vote on that sweeping legislation tomorrow morning, and fingers are crossed in
washington right now, and joining me is white house correspondent leigh ann caldwell. and so it is as if we are getting beyond the 30-hour window at this point when it is coming to the debate, and so where are we in the time line and when can we be expecting this vote? >> hi, yasmin. yes, the 30 hours runs out at 4:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. so, there is a chance that the senate will vote on final passage of this infrastructure bill very early tomorrow morning. of course, anything can happen in the senate if there is a support of all 100 senators, so perhaps there is some sort of agreement to move that vote into daylight hours, but, agreement among all senators has been difficult to come by, and that is why this process over the fast -- past few days has been taking so long. and senator hagerty has been holding up any time lines to
move quickly through the process, because he is not liking that the bill is not completely paid for according to the congressional budget office official score. but senator hagerty could not stop the bill, but slow it down. it looks like it is going to pass if you are looking at the key procedural vote that was last night, it had the support of 14 republicans, and that is a similar vote count of what happens on the final passage, so this is a bipartisan achievement for this senate, yasmin. >> talk about the debt ceiling, and the pay fors, and you talk about hagerty, and there are a few of the folks out there like hagerty, and talking about the pay-fors. but for the most part, the indication is that the republicans are really ignoring the debt ceiling on this, and moving forward with the infrastructure, because it is incredibly important to them, the but that said, the worry is if they are going to be able to do that when it is coming to the
$3.5 trillion reconciliation bill, and bernie sanders out with that plan for reconciliation, and how is that received? >> well, the reconciliation bill is an outline, and we have the budget numbers or the topline of how much they want to spend in each category, and so they are going to vote on that later in the week, and it is called a budget resolution, and this is the first step in that process. and then it goes back to the committees for them to actually write the legislation for the $3.5 trillion human infrastructure bill, and how it is received? the republicans are adamantly opposed to it, and so it is a fight among the democrats, and there are some moderates in the house of representatives who have said they are out with the circulating a letter as we speak saying that they have some concerns with the $3.5 trillion bill. they are citing inflation. meanwhile, the progressives would like something more than
3.5 trillion, and so what this is underscores is a difficult path moving forward that speaker pelosi has with the democratic caucus to stay in line, because while they are at a very, you know, significant that they pass the bipartisan bill, and starting the process on the $3.5 trillion partisan bill, there are so many steps that things could completely fall apart. >> thank you, leigh ann caldwell. now, the doj officials are interviewing officials about donald trump's interference with the election. a spokesman confirmed to nbc news that it held a closed door interview with donahue and rosen friday and saturday. the committee has more people to talk to, and potentially
including jeffrey clark a trump-appointed doj lawyer. joining us is justice correspondent pete williams. talk to us about the testimony and what we learned. >> first of all, all of these folks are trump-appointed, jeffrey clark, and jeffrey rosen and jack clark. so they wanted them to weigh in on the election having serious problems and there is a telephone call that the president had with jeff rosen that said why don't you say that the election is corrupt, and let me take it from there with the house republicans, and jeffrey clark drafted a letter that he wanted the attorney general to sign and send to legislators in georgia suggesting that they want to go into the special session so they could potentially issue electoral votes of their own if they had questions about the outcome of the georgia election.
of course, the current and former justice department officials are not a problem for the committee to get to, because the white house has said it won't assert executive privilege over them, and the justice department has said they can testify, which is what the committee has been doing so far, and that is relatively easy work. >> talk to me about who jeffrey clark is, pete. what do we know about him? >> well, he was a trump appointee as you noted and he was sent to the justice department through the natural resources division, and then was sent into the attorney general divisions, and it has been disclosed that jeffrey clark was in touch with the white house, and the president himself about taking over the justice department, and several of the books about the end of the trump administration have said that the president even considered putting jeffrey clark in to run the justice department since he
could not get bill barr to do the bidding to say that the election was corrupt, and he could not get rosen to do it. now, clark has not spoken out publicly, and he has not said anything about it, and the committee has not been able to get it yet, and there is a question if he is going to testify before the committee, because the committee has limited powers to compel people to testify. it takes a bipartisan vote to issue the subpoena, and the chairman said over the weekend, richard durbin, that it may not be possible. >> could the former president exert executive privilege? >> there is a widespread agreement that the current president has the ability to excerpt executive privilege, but does the privilege apply to the office or the person, and the former president issued that, and the supreme court suggested that it might be possible, but
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gold rush town. this is where we find our msnbc correspondent steve patterson. >> yes, this dixie fire is expanding seemingly no matter what the firefighters do. it is the second largest active fire currently burning across the country, and 30,000 people displaced by the flame, and another 13,000 homes are still in the path of destruction. the weather has been favorable this weekend, but the conditions are set to turn again back to more hot conditions, and the wind blowing the flames. so another example of what has happened here could happen again that is what the firefighters are hoping to prevent in the communities around greenville. they are trying to put as much protection down as they can, but it is obviously difficult when the terrain out there is bone dry. one person told me that the point of ignition which is how
dry the vegetation is, it is so dry that if you lit a match 100 time, you would have 100 large fires just from that area alone. meanwhile, talking to the people about the destruction and people displaced from their homes of what happened here, and the firefighters, and the mentality of dealing with such trauma, and i spoke to a firefighter about how she is getting through this, and this is what she told me. >> it is an emotional town, but we have a mission, there is another town and another home. so while it hurts our hearts to see those homes and towns and livelihoods destroyed, we also know that we have a job to do. that means, you know, marching on to the next area to try to protect it. >> and yasmin, also, the air quality such a concern here with the smoke that has really filled the air here, but it is causing problems across the entire west
coast, and denver, from this fire alone and the fires in the west, denver had some of the worst air quality in the world. back to you. >> steve patterson, thank you. all right. so united nations panel of scientists released a blistering new report today on the state of the changing climate. they found that humans have pushed the planet into unprecedented categories. the climate change is here, and accelerating and causing damage that is irreversible for thousands and maybe hundreds of thousands of years to come. we have seen floods and unrelenting heat waves and fires that have wiped towns off of the map. and they call it a "code red" for humanity, but the question is if humanity going to listen. and joining us is michael mann, and author of "the new climate war, the fight to take back our planet." michael, thank you for joining
us. you joined the show friday and you said that this report is going to be really bad. what is it predicting for the next decade or two as climate change accelerates? >> thank you, yasmin. good to be with you, and as we are seeing the tragedies play out in realtime as we are seeing the wildfire second largest in california history could become the largest. this is precisely what the report and prior reports said, but this is the latest report that is really going to connect the dots when it comes to climate change and the extreme weather events that we are seeing, the heat waves and the fires and the floods and the droughts and the superstorms. and the report for the first time in essence says that we would not be seeing these events if it were not for the warming of the planet caused by fossil fuel burning and the increase in the concentration of the warming greenhouse gases. so the report was written over
the last several years, and yet, it is describing precisely what we are seeing play out right now on the television screens. >> we are seeing the things happen on the macro level, michael, and then on the microlevel, as well, and the devastating flooding in omaha over the weekend and folks trapped in an elevator and i can't imagine what it was like as the water rose, and luckily, they were okay, but can we be ready for what is to come considering the devastating report and how off guard we have been caught? >> and so climate change is not some far off threat, but we can see it, and we can prevent frit getting worse, and the report is laying out the numbers, and if we can dramatically move awe of the fossil fuel burning and
bring the carbon fuel emissions down by 50% which is do-able, then we can bring it down a catastrophic 3 degrees, and avoid far worse and extreme weather disasters that we are already seeing, and start to test the adaptive capacity to climate change. >> all right. how do we do it, and do we need cohesive cooperation across the globe? >> in short, yes. here in the united states, and we were talking about it earlier on the program, we need an infrastructure package, but in addition, this reconciliation package where most of the climate legislation is likely to be found. we need that package to pass congress which codifies, you know, a vast increase in our funding of renewable energy that puts in place things like a
green energy standard to move away from the fossil fuel burning, and we need that in place, and while the current administration, the biden administration is doing everything they can through the executive actions, with need the efforts to be codefied in terms of leng slags. -- legislation. so all eyes are on the legislation that is going to allows us to keep our commitment to the rest of the bill to lower our carbon emission, and by leading the other countries will follow along. >> that is the hope, but quickly here, that is the legislation that will happen domestically, and that is going to have some impact overseas, but what about china and russia, and thinking about the skies over beijing, and how is it that those countries cooperate to make sure that this going in the right direction? >> well, you know, china gets it, because they have seen the impact of the environmental degradation on their population
and cost them a huge amount of money on the health costs, and they were on the right track, and they were decommissioning coal-fired plants, and they were decommissioning under obama's plant, and then they came in, and said that we would not loing inner -- no longer honor their obligation, but now we are back to the table, and the biden administration said that we would cut the carbon emissions by 50% in the next decade and de-carbonize our energy sector by 2025, and that is going to provide some credibility on the world stage when we ask other countries to do and make similar commitments. >> i am hearing optimism in your voice michael mann, and so i am going to run with it after reading that searing report. coming up, afghans are fleeing their homes after the
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in this country. government forces trying to fight back the taliban in many cases. they're taking on the taliban and trying to displace them. social media and propaganda video. taliban fighters going through the city, going into government buildings. the taliban could not be held off yesterday. and they are now hold up at the airport which the government still holds. the advances happened so quickly that many are leaving with nothing. just the clothes on their back. and many many of them are desperate to leave the country
entirely. that's a problem because the afghan -- the taliban has taken over seven reportedly seven of the 14 border crossings in this country. many of the people, even those in the middle class don't have the tens of thousands of dollars to either pay smugglers or go the legal way, apply for a visa, for example in turkey or pakistan. >> thank you. want to bring in the host of the wartime allies podcast. imbedded with afghan security forces. how it is they were able to let taliban advance on them so quickly and take over the city of kunduz? >> well, simply put, sut the
southeastern part of the country. it's a border crossing with pakistan. because they now control that border crossing, they have a means of resupplying the fighters at will. so they've been streaming fighters trained in madrases and tribal regions into the country. the goal is to outbleed us. that's been the strategy since we started fighting them in 2001. the idea is you fight the afghan military everywhere. you make them commit their forces in the battlefield. then you kill them knowing you're going to lose your own fighters along the way. eventually, you'll be able to wear down the afghan military to the point it can't defend major cities. that's what we're seeing right now.
kandahar is in the south. as a result now, the taliban have seized, you know, six capitals in the north and they've got the city completely surrounded. the association of wartime allies. what we learned is there are currently 700 of them. they're trapped and have no means of getting out. what the tall pan took them in 1998, they literally went door to door and killed anybody that they could find who did not adhere to the ideology. the death toll was in the thousands. they fed their bodies to roving dogs. there is an entire human rights report about the massacre of the city in 1998. and that's what we all fear is about to happen next in the largest city in the north. >> we don't have a lot of time. there are a few things i want to tack brg we run out of time. first and foremost, what are the
afghan security forces supposed to do to stopped advancement of the taliban? what can they do or will the taliban eventually outbleed the forces as you put it? the afghan military cannot sustain this assault. there have been em plowed now everywhere in the country and being killed. you know, we've seen vud yoe footage in recent weeks of the taliban slaughtering them even when they surrender and they run out of bullets. the afghan military is dependent on its air force to have any stroo teethic advantage. what the you're seeing is the taliban over the weekend started killing pilots. they em employee surface-to-air missiles. once that happens, there is no means for the afghan military to defend itself. we were their best chance. >> so from what i'm hearing from you is essentially it's all but done at this point.
they stand in the way to help americans. what can be done to save them? >> simply put, the only solution that we have at this point is we have to go back in and get them. the afghan military cannot defend them. the afghan government can't kick them out and they can't move themselves as your correspondent put it. they're trapped in the cities with which they find themselves with no means of escape. unless we rescue them, the taliban are going to murder them all. >> ugly picture. that does it for me. ayman mohyeldin picks up coverage next. it for me. ayman mohyeldin picks up coverage next. it's the most comfortable, dually-adjustable, foot-warming, temperature-balancing... proven quality night sleep we've ever made. save up to $1,000 on select sleep number 360 smart bed and adjustable bases. plus, no interest until january 2024. ends monday.
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