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thank you for joining us this hour. that will do it for me to this edition of "alex witt reports." yasmin vossoughian now continues our coverage, as we speak. ♪♪ good afternoon, everybody. we have a lot going on. we are watching the senate for any late-breaking movement on the infrastructure bill. for the latest news on a breaking story, former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen testifying to the committee about the allegations that the former president trump pressured rosen. we also got new developments in afghanistan, taliban troops tearing through yet another key city. we'll get the latest live on the ground there. you don't want to miss that report. then you have the massive dixie fire getting even bigger, threatening homes and people as we speak.
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another dangerous rise in a covid cases, and a white house struggling to stop the spread. we'll take you to south dakota where few seem to care there's even a pandemic out there. the next hour, the kindergarten exodus. a special report, disturbing new numbers, more than a million students who have simply vanished from the school system in the wake of the covid crisis. many are the youngest and most vulnerable kids out there. that is coming up in the top of our next hour. we do want to begin with the breaking news. on former president trump's trump's efforts to subvert the election. jeff rosen spoke with the senate judiciary committee this weekend for seven hours behind closed doors. "new york times" reporting that rosen told congressional investigators that one of his deputies, jeffrey clark, tried
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to help the former president subvert the results of the 2020 election. ali vitali has following this for us. we're learning more about this, but what can you tell us? what more do you know about this and next steps here, of course? >> it's all recall le stunning, yasmin. even though the president is no longer in the oval office, no longer even in washington, clearly there's still so much to learn about what he was doing in the final weeks between the time he lost the 2020 presidential election and the time he actually left the oval office on inauguration day for joe biden. what we're learning here is not just his former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen testified behind closed doors for multiple hours. we're also learning thinks deputy, richard donahue also testified. those are two key people that
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had contact with the white house and other officials during that key period of time. really senator blumenthal, one of the senators on the judiciary committee part of that behind closed doors testimony telling us just last hour exactly what his takeaways were from that conversation. they're stunning. listen. >> the president of the united states, then donald trump, mounted a pressure campaign that was absolutely relentless, brutal, personally involved, directly aimed at the department of justice. we men to break it and weaponize it to overthrow the election. >> reporter: what you and i have followed is the things the former president and his allies were saying publicly, but what's really stunning is over the course of last few weeks, we've learned from people like donahue who took handwritten notes of conversations he had with the
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former president. donahue is one of the people talking to the committee, allegedly he rod trump just said the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and congressional allies. it's clear from hearing from these lawmakers they're not letting up. chairman durbin said he plans for more testimony like this. so far these weekend these were voluntary and obviously they had a lot to say. >> we're going to dig more into this right after i leave you, with barbara mcquaid. we're nearing the 30-hour deadline for debate on the senate floor. where are we? when is the final vote happening? >> reporter: i really hope you weren't holding your breath over all these hours. >> never, my friend, never. >> reporter: things can change.
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all 100 of them came together and decided they wanted to fast-track this process, put an agreement together on amendments. they could have done that. we know that's not happening. every senator who we have seen here today started each conversation with a long sigh. that's effectively what senator schumer got at earlier this afternoon, one way or another echoing it's going to get done. >> i repeat democrats are ready and willing to vote on additional amendment before moving to final passage. once again, that would require of cooperation of our republican colleagues. i hope they will cooperate so we can move more quickly. otherwise, we will proceed by the book. >> reporter: by the book effectively means laird tonight we will see another procedural vote to open us up to another 30 hours of debate, so really the
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timing looks like if there's no agreement, they will vote on this at the earliest on tuesday. it's just a question of when. >> thank you, ali. let's bring in barbara mcquaid. thank you again for joins us. i want to play some sound for you from senator dick durbin, recalling rosen's testimony. >> he told us a lot, seven hours of testimony. i might quickly add, this was done on a bipartisan basis, democratic staff and republican legal staff, asking questions during this period of time. mr. rosen appeared voluntarily, which says a lot, and cooperated with us. the justice department had set it up for us, and said we're waiving any privilege. he can speak to any issue, we're not holding back.
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i thought he was very open. and there's an awful lot there. you can imagine, seven hours of testimony. >> barbara, you have senator blumenthal saying, listen, rosen revealed things that were not known before this investigation. where does this lead the investigation? >> i think it's a great illustration of how so often we assume that what is in the public domain is the whole store. so on which in investigations there are facts that are not publicly known. i also they that one significant reason jeffrey rosen was able to tell the facts is because the justice department has waived any executive privilege. donald trump's lawyer sent a letter saying they wanted to step in and have executive
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privilege. i think there are a number of places this could lead. i think it also could be shared with criminal prosecutors for possible criminal violations. the one that comes to mind is the one that robert mueller used against the russian internet research agency, sometimes referred to by prosecutors as a klein conspiracy, but it is conspiracy to defraud the united states by undermining part of the function of the united states. so in this instance, as robert mueller alleged, the free and fair elections in the united states. that's one possible charge. others come to mind, but certainly the facts will matter. all of these are pointing to using the machinery of government to subvert the election. >> you're talking about possible charges. i'm assuming you're talking
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about the former president and how that could be deciphered. let's sells touch on jeffrey clark, mentioned in the "new york times" reporting. at the time the acting head of the justice department, civil division. talk to me, barbara, about what you know of the relationship with the former president, and the conversations he had been having, according to this testimony, with the former president of ways to cast doubt on the election results of 2020. >> yeah, so president trump was urging the leadership of the justice department like jeffrey rosen and his deputy clark, and they wouldn't play ball. donald trump did find a willing participant in the assistant attorney general for the civil division, jeffrey clark, and the public reporting is that clark met privately with president
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trump, completely forbidden under the department policies. communications are to be done in a formal way. the idea that the president is talking with an underling, planning a strategy is, alone, highly irreg. then we have seen this her he drafted for the signature of the acting attorney general to send out to all the states, including georgia, where the elections were close. this is so far out of the lane of the justice department. providing legal advice to states about how they could engineer a different result in their state. they could say, and he states the statute, that we declare our election failed because there's so much irregularity, therefore it throws the election to legislatures, which were all crowd by republicans, and we cast the vote for donald trump. he laid out that road map for them.
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so i think jeffrey clark and anyone else involved should be concerned with conspiracy charges. >> do you think anything more about jeffrey clark? >> i really don't. he's a lawyer first head of the environmental natural resources division, then led the civil division, but beyond that, i don't know much about him. >> the second is how do they decide whether or not there was criminal liability for either jeffrey clark and/or the former president trump? >> one of the things prosecutors will do is look at the information they have, trying to get a full picture of what was happen, and the intent, the intent of those involved. that may require interviewing people around. mark meadows, for example, the chief of staff, strikes me as somebody who would be very important to understand his role. people who talked to jeffrey clark, and anyone else. who might have n prosecutors can
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use legal process to get e-mails, text messages, other documents to help understand what was going on in people's communications. >> if, though, the president is able to exert executive privilege, would someone like mark meadows be able to skirt around testifying? >> quite possibly. one of the things about executive privilege, it's not absolute, so the supreme court has said it must used at times when there is a criminal investigation that's pending. so i think ultimately the judd department if it needs information for a criminal investigation, could get it, but the exercise of 3ri68 in the courts could delay any further resolution. >> barbara, thank you as all, for breaking it down. i want to turn to the battle against covid. chief white house medical advisory dr. anthony fauci, saying his's hopeful the cdc will grant full approval to the vaccine by the end of this month, and talking more about the possibility of the booster.
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mike memoli is in delaware where the president is spending the weekend. what lengths are we hearing through the president and his administration go to on a federal level to get folks vaccinated? >> reporter: well, yasmin, we have heard over and over from this white house a real reluctance to decide any form of vaccine mandate. there are political reasons for that. we have certainly seen it play out when local government proposal masks man mandates. as you laid out, we're still -- under an emergency use authorization, not the full authorization that dr. fauci did say could be coming within a matter of weeks at this point. at that point dr. fauci is saying that will be the be 'tis
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for local and private institutions. like schools, universities, businesses, to impose their own requirements on workers, not necessarily a government mandate on vaccinations. as we continue to see the spread of the delta variant, it poses the risk of further variations in the future. take a listen. >> if you allow the virus to freely circulate, not try and stop it, sooner or later there is a likelihood you will get another variant that could -- i'm not saying it will, but could will be more -- that will not only impact the unvaccinated, but it will impact the vaccinated. >> reporter: doctor fauci did talk about this possibility of booster shots being necessary, and he said at this point they're tracking closely the
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efficacy against the delta variant, but over time it is possible -- especially older americans, to get a booster shot. just not there yet. >> a lot of worst-case scenarios there. mike memoli, thank you as always. in florida another record rise for the third time this week the state has surfaced the new daily report. stephanie is in florida for us. has this surge at all changed the covid strategy? >> reporter: at this point, it does not appear to be so. yasmin, we are here at barnett park. this is just west the downtown orlando. this is one of two coronavirus testing stations in the area. officials actually had to open a second one because of the surge in coronavirus here. let me show you what's going on. we are seeing a steady stream of
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cars here all day lot. right now, it appears the wait time is about two hours. officials had to put a temporary halt on testing on friday here, because we saw waits in excess of three hours long. of course, all of this coming, as you said, as we are seeing a surgeon in not only coronavirus cases here in florida, but also in hospitalization. according to the florida department of health, roughly 12,000 people right now in the state of florida are in the hospital fighting coronavirus. now, earlier today, i had the chance to talk to some of the folks in these cars here to find out why they were coming here to be tested, and also to get their thoughts on the delta variants. >> my son's having symptoms. i feel like i probably am getting thom, too. i'm vaccinated, yeah. not the best, but we know it's a pretty powerful variant.
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>> reporter: may i ask if you're vaccinated? >> yes. >> reporter: are you thinking more about it now with the variant out there? what's on your mind? >> no, no. if it's my time, it's my time. >> this site also serves as a vaccination center, but i can tell you most of the traffic is here in the testing area. they're not necessarily hearing the crowds over there. right now, according to the florida department of health, roughly 63% in florida ages 12 and over are fully vaccinated, yasmin. stephanie, thank you. a troubling picture. still ahead, new comments from one of the governor cuomo's accusers. >> we have a lot of fact finding to do. we have a lot of interviews to do. you know what? i'm not going to rush it because of who he is. >> the possible charges under
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can your internet do that? welcome back, everybody. we're following breaking news out of the chicago. a third suspect has been arrested in the killing after police officer. the two officers were making a traffic stop when shots were fired. a female officer died. a male officer is in critical condition, fighting for his
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life. two suspects were arrested, and now a third one is in custody. there are big developments. tomorrow new york's assembly will continue the impeachment investigation. >> the 11 women, what they have said and the allegations they have made are qualitatively different. there are two or three allegations that are the certificate allegations i would find it very difficult to believe the assembly of new york would impeach governor cuomo for kissing a woman at a wedding afternoon which he officiated in
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front of many witnesses. >> we are hearing for the first time from the woman who filed a criminal complaint with the albany sheriff. >> this woman features prominently in the new york state investigative report that laying out the history. she has self-identified as executive assistant one. there's paragraph upon paragraph of details laying out a relationship between them -- a working relationship where over time particularly ramping up in 2020 she alleges that the governor would ask personal questions that escalated, as well as inappropriate touching. she spoke to cbs news. they released a clip just really a couple hours ago where we hear directly from her.
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let's take will listen to that. >> just so i'm clear again, being held accountable to you means seeing the governor charged with a crime. >> what he did to me was a crime. he broke the law. >> so she's made these accommodations. >> we're just going to listen to you, because we've lost your picture -- keep going. there you go. >> sure the governor has denied all of the accusations she's made and all the other ten women as well, but she has filed this complaint. the albany sheriff is launching an investigation. he says he's not going to rush it or walk it back or slow it do you know because of who he is. this continues to play out. this is a huge development. meanwhile, tomorrow, the discussions about an impeachment
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that cover a wide range of issues, not just these allegations of sexual harassment, but handling of nursing homes and death data, and the use of state resources when he wrote a memoir, as well as the bridge. if he is charge, that is a whole different ball game. >> and there's sure to be major developments, anna scheckter, thank you. we're following breaking news. taliban has captured another key city in afternoon. i'm going to talk to a reporter on the ground there. plus we have more on the news that former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen has now given a treasure trove of information to the senate about
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donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. we'll be right back.
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welcome back, everybody. we are following some breaking news out of afghanistan. nbc news has confirmed the taliban has now captured the key strategic city of kunduz. it is coming in the wake of the u.s. withdrawal from that country. gives a sense of how much of a blow a fall like this city is to the afghan government? >> what we have seen today is a real increase of taliban operations. >> kunduz is just one of three cities that were overrun today. it's strategically important to the afghan government.
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it's been under siege for months, and a lot of airpower and elite afghan units have been dispatched to the city in an effort to hold it taliban fighters pushed down to the city from the north. they first attacked the prison. on the government compounds that were the hard of government control in the center of the city. >> let's talk about the deteriorating security situation. american citizens have been warned to leave there immediately. how much has it deteriorated. first, making advances south of
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kabul along one of the main highways that connects the capital to the soldier provinces, and then across the north. what we have seen in the past few days is the fighters are capable of also taking urban areas. what what we saw before that, which is what has probably prompted growing concern are the attacks on airports. if they're not able to secure it, none of the embassies will be able to keep their staff there. so far an agreement has not been r50e67d on what forces will secure the airport and how. how much of a chance do they have in being successful, considering the downfall of
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kunduz? >> when you talk to these elite after fan forces, and they have received incredible amounts of training from u.s. troops, my colleagues and i, we spent time with these forces just last month, but what they said is without the close u.s. air support they're used to having and without the u.s. technology to survey -- surveil, they even told us they hope the united states changes their mind i think even after two decades of trainings, the best of the best, are unable to perform their jobs.
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there was a question of what would happen to women and young girls who had made incredible advancements over the last two decades. what is going on there? >> women and girls, especially women and young women who shall working as newscasters or members of government, they are particularly concern as they're seeing these military gains across the country. . when you talk to taliban leaders in doha, and again these are very different from the commanders on the ground, they say they're in support of the future of women's rights, so it remains to be seen. >> suzanne, thank you. ten days, hundreds of
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that's a lot of freedom. >> i'm being as cautious as i can, but at the same time if i'm going to attend this, i have to let go a bit. i do care, but i'm here. >> the vax rate in mead county, where sturgis is, is a -- more than 3,000 kids across the state -- has a stark warning from the governor. we have more children -- the delta variant is affecting children at a greater rate than the children we saw previously. we know better, kids get sick,
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and we certainly know better that they're not getting infected and that they're not infectious. joining me is dr. laprov. thank you for joining us. i first want to tackle what i led with, 3,000 kids tests positive in the state of louisiana, with covid. give me a sense how kids are reacting to the virus. is it any different than we saw them reacting to the alpha variant? >> yeah, the alpha variant didn't seem to affect kids as severely. this delta variant has so much more virilence, so much more potent if you will, and the potency is causing more kids to get sick and be hospitalized. >> do you have any kids currently in your icu? >> we have two sides of the
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street. we have an adult hospital. on the other site, the children's hospital. the children's hospital has a number of patients both in their floors and in the icu. >> give us a sense with what's going on with the most recent surge? >> this surge is causing to many unintended consequences. it's one thing we have 175 covid-19 patients admitted right now. it's affecting other parts of the hospital. we've had to slow down surgeries or completely stop elective surgeries just to make room for our patients. we've had to stop accepting patients coming in from other facilities that we normally can bail out some smaller hospitals in smaller towns. we're not able to take care of patients we normally would, because they're just adding to the issue. on top of all of that, we rarely have 175 patients in the hospital that are requires oxygen. all of these covid-19 patients
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require oxygen. as a result, it's freezing or oxygen lines, because there's too much flow going through the walls. so we're having to figure out ways to get oxygen to our patients. just before the call, we no longer have concentrators we can send homes with, and now we don't even have the resources to give them the care at home. >> how is this comparing to the situation you experienced at the beginning of this pandemic? >> i would much rather be in mar and april of 2020 than we are currently. it's very sad the decisions we're having to make for other hospitals, for other illnesses that are not just covid-19-related. back in march and april at that point of 2020, we didn't have the vaccine, we didn't have certain treatments. we know so much more right now. we know more about this vaccine right now. i'll be the first to admit i was
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a little hesitant when the vaccine came out. i didn't know if it would work, but we're seeing in front of our own eyes, it works. between 80% and 90% of the hospital patients are unvaccinated. that tells me the vaccinations work. is the early hesitancy even valid anymore? we have evidence. i'm a very simple guy. i think emergency medicine, we have to know a lot of things, but we have so simplify things. if we had a yard full of weeks. we wouldn't sprays it in small portion. we have to blanket the whole yard with weedkiller to combat the problem. if we simplify and not complicate this discussions, we need to blanket this place with the vaccine, similar to weedkiller in a yard that's
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overgrown, so that we can stop it super spreading, as to up it super spreading, mutating, going to different areas that are vaccinated. if we can't blanket this country, this world with vaccinated individuals, we have a chance of overcoming this thing. >> we can open hope. doctor, thank you for spending your time with us. i know your time is hard to share right now, considering how inundated you are. we consider the work you're doing. thank you. with the rise in the coronavirus last year came a drastic drop in school enrollment. i'll be joined by kayla patrick from the education trust. we're going to talk about what's being done to get kids back in the classroom. we'll be right back.
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welcome back, everybody. one last time, you want to put the olympic games some of the spotlight, as they cloud out today. they were forcing commentators to work overtime. my next two guests broke down the precise details and logistics that sparked some of the protests. >> what is up with the score challenges? it seemed like you're allowed to challenge a score, and it seemed like everyone was doing it. i looked like the schedule and
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it looks like it went beyond an hour of what it was scheduled for because of these challenges. what is this? >> the score is made up of two elements, difficulty and execution. just like in artistic gymnastics, each move has a value, so each thing the gymnast has a value. you get bonus if it's connected with other things. moves have names and have very specific points. so if you do a double tuck, here's your points. >> joining me are the co-hosts of keep the flame alive podcast. thank you both for joining us. alice, i want to start with your reaction to the overall olympics. i'm talking about covid testing, lots of covid-positive cases, the unexpected, of course, dropouts. just the overall olympics that
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we experienced this time around. >> it was weird. this was unusual. it was we don't quite know what to make of all of this. the athletes had their moment, which is the most important thing, but it was heart to wrap your head around the whole proceedings and get an impression. one thing we've been saying all long is it's been very disjointed, very disconnected. i think we as views have felt that very much. >> jill, obviously simone biles dominated the headlines coming out of the olympics. the president spoke to athletes over zoom. i want to take a listen to what he had to say. >> you all are the greatest athletes in the world. you had the courage -- no, i really mean it. i'm not playing. you had the courage to say, i need some help. we need some help. we need time.
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you gave an example to everybody. >> you've got to say it was pretty incredible to hear the president talk about -- the honesty simone had to put out in the world that she couldn't deal with it, right, at that moment. what was your initial reaction to her withdrawals? >> i was happy she did it. first and foremost, it's her safety. we don't simone biles can be superhuman, but she's also human. you can get mental blocks, and you have to work through them, and sometimes you don't see that. it was interesting to see her struggle, and understand just how dangerous her sport could be. if she didn't do what she did by withdrawing from so many events she could be paralyzed by now
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because of the fact she had the twisties and could not see where she was in the air and land properly. >> how much do you think her decision to be honest and truthful and withdraw from some of the competition, how much do you think that will change things for future athletes? >> well, gymnastics, unfortunately, has a reputation to being not very athlete-centric. sarah vaulted on an injured leg. she was able to say back to her coaches, and to usa gymnastics i can't do this, even though this may cost us medals, this is for my safety, this is for my health. i think that's very important, especially within gymnastics. >> maybe other gymnasts will follow suit and be truthful where what they're dealing with.
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streaming box for free. impressive! that's 'cuz you all have the same internet. xfinity xfi so powerful, it keeps one-upping itself. can your internet do that? welcome back, everybody. breaking news out of northeast california, where the dixie fire is the second largest fire in the state's history. it spans over 460,000 acres, just 21% contained. on top of thousands being forced to evacuation, it's continues to spread. steve, have you heard anything else from official about their progress in battling this fire. >> reporter: as we speak, the
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winds are starting to pick up, but fire officials told me the weekend was a bit of a blessing, because the wind slowed down, but it's changing. every day we find new depth to the destruction. it's burned more than 400 houses, but there's still 14,000 still in the threat. it seems nothing between those fires and those homes, but flackable grass, flammable fuel that the fire can chew through. i spoke to a firefighter about just that, and how dangerous the situation remains. >> so, this past winter we did not receive anywhere near the normal amount of precipitation and snow pack we seed.
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that's contributed to extremely dry conditions. if you dropped 100 matches in 100 different places, every single one of those would start a fire. on this forest, we're competing all of the thresholds for the available of fuels. that's directly contributing to the large fire growth we are seeing. >> reporter: meanwhile, the air quality is terrible. it's terrible here at the fire site. it's terrible in the state of california. it's terrible across the west. denver had the worst air quality in the world over the weekend, specifically because of these wildfires. they're telling everybody just to stay inside, if you can. >> we are approaching the top of the hour. steve patterson.
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good to see you. you're watching "msnbc reports with yasmin vossoughian." if usual still with us, thank you. if you're just joining us, thank you. you have the senate in session on the infrastructure bill, and then news coming out today of senate testimony by a key figure in donald trump's push to get the doj to go along with his election lies. >> the questions really go to the heart of what donald trump tried to do. they had a pressure campaign that stopped at nothing. he used other means, like inciting the january 6th riot with the same goal. what struck me personally is how relentless he seemed to be in mounting this

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