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trump's direct attempt yet to reverse the 2020 election. the alleged proof handwritten notes from inside the department of justice. >> we saw someone who had such a disdain for the rule of law, such contempt for democracy, that he was willing to destroy it. >> and crushing setback due to the delta variant, just released cdc study shows vaccinated people can spread the virus to others just as readily as those who are unvaccinated. how the white house is planning to stop the delta surge. millions of americans facing eviction this weekend as last-minute efforts to extend moratorium failed to pass in congress. the battle brews across the country between governors and teachers who disagree on face coverings in schools. now some parents are calling for maskless students to be taught separately from those who are masked up. as wood morning, everybody, it is saturday, july 31st.
end of the month. i'm kendis gibson. >> i'm lindsey reiser. we have a live shot from tokyo we can show you as well. we have a lot of olympics headlines we'll get to in a little bit. how covid of course is impacting everything, the new headlines from simone biles we'll dig into. >> we have a team of correspondents spanned out across the country and the world for that matter with the latest from austin to texas -- austin, texas to tokyo as well. >> we'll start with those bombshell documents from congress that show just how far former president trump was willing to take his big election lie, the house oversight committee says they've gotten key evidence that they say proves trump directly tried to overturn the 2020 election results. >> now, according to the handwritten notes taken by then acting deputy attorney general richard donahue during a december phone call with trump the former president pressured both him and former acting ag jeffrey rosen directing them to, quote here, just say the election was corrupt, and leave
the rest to me and the "r" congressmen, the "r" of course meaning republicans. a spokesperson for trump has not yet responded to nbc's request for comment on all of this but joining us right now for more reporting on this is axios congressional reporter sarah muha, thank you so much for being here. walk us through the reporting here, what else do we know about these documents and why they're coming out now? >> reporter: this was a phone call that happened just two weeks before the january 6th riot that happened between president donald trump and then acting attorney general rosen and donahue, like you mentioned. donahue memorialized everything in these handwritten notes that have now become public. what was said -- donald trump was told by the justice department that they cannot change the election outcome. i'll read you, he replied. i don't expect you to do that, just say the election was corrupt. he then added we have an
obligation to tell people that this was an illegal and corrupt election, the two men on the phone told the president that he was getting false information, that they had conducted hundreds or dozens of interviews, rather, and that this was just blatantly false. >> a lot of people are saying that the justice department got woke this week. the justice department turning over those notes over the house oversight committee, instead of protecting them. why is that? >> reporter: that's right, i think this signifies a new tide in leadership. i covered current president joe biden on the campaign trail, and he tried to distinguish himself in many ways during the campaign from then president donald trump but one way in which he did that was by saying that he is going to make sure that his justice department is completely independent. he said i won't let the attorney general act as my personal lawyer. this is a shift, clearly, from the attitude that president
trump took toward his justice department. >> so the doj now is allowing former officials to actually testify. they said they won't invoke executive privilege. what's the significance of that and how could this play out? >> that's right, they are allowing quote/unquote unrestricted testimony by these former trump officials and this is actually pretty unusual because typically the justice department can assert executive privilege, or they just kind of try to stay away from these kind of congressional inquiries. they're making an exception calling this exceptional circumstances. once again, there's a different justice department in town, and they really want to get to the bottom of these january 6th riots. >> all right, sarah mucha, thank you for joining us early this morning. let's now bring in democratic congressman from michigan dan kilde, who serves
as the chief deputy whip. we have a lot to get to with you. i want to get your quick reaction to those handwritten notes, and what the president told the deputy attorney general and attorney general who's acting attorney general at the time saying to just call the election corrupt, and then the "r" congressmen are going to take care of this. >> i mean, i think we have to keep in mind, these were in the days leading up to the insurrection on january 6th. so it's very difficult for me to separate those events. but stepping back from it it's important to think about this, this was not some random republican leader having a conversation with sean hannity. this was the president of the united states with the full authority that the constitution grants him directing the deputy attorney general, mr. rosen, to commit a crime, to overturn the
election, to conspire with him and apparently republican members of congress to engage in what could have been a series of acts to overthrow an honest and fair democratic election. in any other time this would be explosive. but in the era of trump, this is, i guess, for some, just the equivalent of him shooting somebody on fifth avenue and getting away with it. where's the outrage? i mean, we're outraged. but where's kevin mccarthy? where's mitch mcconnell? where are these republicans that theoretically embrace the constitution and say they celebrate the rule of law when their guy, when their cult leader is now being exposed even further for these terrible acts. they're sitting on their hands. >> okay. >> they're quiet. this is frightening.
>> congressman, i've got to ask you, because you sit on the all important ways and means committee and that is the committee that is going to get access now to trump's tax returns. first of all, what do you expect the timeline to be? when do you expect to get access to that and what are you going to be looking for? >> first of all, we expect them to be delivered as they should have been, you know, immediately, section 6103 of the tax code is unambiguous. the ways and means committee, the chairman of the committee has absolute right to examine any return. the full committee, not likely, will see all of this. the chairman will have to make a decision about what he can do with the information. but most important aspect of this, the reason to look at it is to determine a couple of things, one, whether or not the irs was properly enforcing the tax laws of the united states on the president of the united states. that's an important oversight responsibility that we have. but we also have a legislative
purpose. the reason we sought the returns in the first place is because the ways and means committee needed this information to determine whether or not we need to legislatively require the president's returns to be audited on a regular basis. >> and congressman, i don't mean to cut you off, but we get that, that's been litigated for several years. we understand why you guys pushed for this. now the doj has been directed to give it to your committee. are you getting any sort of guidance as to exactly when you will get your hands on trump's taxes? >> not at this point. and because this is obviously fairly flesh information. but it's obviously our hope and our expectation that there will be no further delays and that it will be forthwith. >> and to follow up on what lindsay was asking what will be the first thing that you will look for once you get it? >> well i think there's a really important question as to whether the irs was actually enforcing the tax laws on this president
or the president may have been attempting to pressure them to look the other way. we know that this president has played fast and loose with his personal finances for his spire career. that's one thing. but to do it at the -- as the president of the united states is another question. for the most part, there's a central question, did they audit him? because he continued to claim that he was being audited. did they conduct an audit. what were the results of that audit? were their modifications made to the returns, did the president attempt to skirt the tax laws of the united states. these are all really big questions. >> congressman dan kildee we hope you'll come back on once you have the returns and tell us the things you're finding. thank you so much for being with us this morning. as contagious as the chickenpox, new concerns over the delta variant after the cdc warns the war has changed. we're going to dive into the new cdc documents. with a reporter who broke the story. good morning. >> plus, we're going to look
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just when we started to think we were rushing to seminormal, startling new revelations this morning about the pesky delta variant. vaccinated people with break through infections carried about the same amount of virus as those who didn't get the shots. those results are what prompted the agency to issue its latest mask guidelines. questions this morning on the biden administration's next steps to curb the rise of the infections and whether a federal vaccine mandate is actually now in the works. nbc news correspondent kathy park is joining us from manhattan and nbc's lauren egan is at the white house with all of this. kathy, starting with you, we're learning more from the cdc about this new delta variant, and every new revelation seems startling and really horrifying.
>> reporter: kendis, good morning to you, yeah, that's absolutely right. i mean, the documents that have now been made public only magnifies the dangers of the delta variant, essentially how contagious it is, even among the fully vaccinated and cdc officials are saying that the war has essentially changed. and according to the study, the documents that were released they cited an outbreak that happened earlier this month in provincetown, massachusetts where three quarters of those who were infected were fully vaccinated, and the samples that were traced to those who got sick, well the strain was -- the strain of the delta variant was the most prominent strain. also, when it comes to breakthrough infections we have a little bit more clarity as to how many more breakthrough infections we're seeing weekly, the number is 35,000. with all of this new data, there is a bigger push from health officials at the federal level to essentially fight back the
virus by getting more people vaccinated. and there still might be more hesitancy now because of this new information that came out, but health officials are saying that essentially when you do get vaccinated it increases your chances of getting sick. also prevents death, tenfold. so they are stressing the importances of still getting vaccinated, moving forward. but obviously this is a hot button issue, a very political issue, and last night dr. rochelle walensky the head of the cdc was on fox news and pressed about a mandate when it comes to vaccinations. take a listen. >> are you for mandating a vaccine? on a federal level. >> you know, that's something that i think the administration is looking into, it's something that i think we're looking to see approval of. >> reporter: now dr. walensky would later clarify in a tweet last night and she said this, to
clarify, there will be no nationwide mandate. i was referring to mandates by private institutions, and portions of the federal government. there will be no federal mandate. and right now there are several private enterprises and there's a growing list of them asking some employees to get vaccinated as they return to work. they include disney as well as walmart and while we are here at broadway, i mean it's supposed to open up in the next couple of weeks, and yesterday they made an announcement saying that the theaters will essentially be asking theater goers when they open up to show vaccination cards, proof of vaccination for those who are not eligible, like those who are 12 and under, will have to have a negative test as they come into view one of these shows, guys. >> show their vaccine card and wear a mask inside. lauren, now to you, president biden signalled more restrictions could be coming. what are we talking about here? i mean, kathy just mentioned a federal vaccine mandate. they kind of walked that back. >> reporter: that's right. as the president was leaving the
white house yesterday he told reporters that in all probability there would be more guidelines to come. what that's actually going to look like we don't know yet. this white house has said from the beginning they're going to listen to the science, listen to the data and readjust their guidelines and health restrictions accordingly. as to whether there will be that national vaccine mandate, listen to what deputy press secretary john pierre had to say about it. >> a national vaccine requirement is not under consideration at this time. that's where we are with that. >> but has he asked the justice department to see if it's even possible? >> i don't have anymore to add to that. >> reporter: now the white house, as you can see there, has been very clear that is not something that they are considering, instead i expect to hear more from the president next week about getting some businesses, some of these private employers to continue to require their own employees to get vaccinated. guys? >> they did not take the bait or answer the question on whether
the justice department has been asked about the legality of national mask mandate, interesting there, kathy park and lauren egan, appreciate it. for more, i'll bring in dr. julie morita, the executive vice president of the robert wood johnson foundation and a former member of the biden administration's covid advisory board and also with us "washington post" reporter yasmin butali, welcome both of you. i want to start with you, yasmin. why didn't the cdc come out with this information on their own? it would seem really, really important. and did the documents come as a surprise to the white house? >> it's a great question. i think the cdc does not ready to release all of the data that supported a decision to change its mask guidance earlier this week. when we obtained this document we felt like that was critical health information to get out there. their assessment of how serious
the delta variant was. we got an indication of that on tuesday when they announced the updated mask guidance but they hadn't released the data they were talking about that convinced them to do this and they concluded it was likely more severe than previous strains of the virus, that they had to acknowledge that the war has changed, and they -- and that they feel the need to revamp their public health messaging and their communications in light of the delta variant and that they have to acknowledge to people that break through infections may not be as rare as they've indicated so far. but still also stress how effective the vaccines are and that they're still doing their jobs. >> yeah, but a lot of people are wondering, scratching their heads, at exactly what the cdc is doing. you get a sense yasmeen they're playing catch-up with messaging, some republicans are pouncing on the change in mask guidance. >> it's been a constant struggle for the cdc from the start of this pandemic to get its messaging right, to -- its data often is lagging behind what people were start to know, and i
know i heard from a lot of experts from a lot of epidemiologists and doctors who were frustrated that the cdc didn't seem to pounce on earlier data from singapore and from other countries that showed the contagiousness of the delta variant and that it was infecting vaccinated people and that they -- it looked like they were likely able to spread it. it's not conclusive but the data was suggestive enough. i heard from a lot of people saying why didn't the cdc look at this report from singapore or from india? we sort of known there but the cdc often gathers its own data. why it can lag behind and that can be frustrating to people. >> let's talk with dr. morita right now. president biden says that he wants to impose new restrictions, doctor. what would you specifically advise him to do? and also would you advise him, how would you advise him to handle the -- let's say the pr portion of the change in guidelines? >> good morning, kendis, nice so see you again. >> good to see you. >> it's critical for in.
communication challenges have been there since last year. when they were unable to provide the guidance for health care providers and health officials throughout the nation. what's happened this year is improved communication definitely but they are trying to play catchup to reestablish the trust of the public in terms of what they're saying, when they're saying it. et cetera. so i think it has been a real challenge for them. what they're doing now, though, in terms of frequent communication, regular communication, broad dissemination, that's all critical in getting the information into the hands of other communicators is also really critical. in terms of guidance i think what we're seeing right now is the data are really driving what needs to happen. when we look at the cases who are being hospitalized we can see the people who are vaccinated are generally well protected. there are people who will get sick, but not as seriously sick as those who are unvaccinated. and through promotion of the vaccine is essential right now. on top of that, because of the data showing us that people who are vaccinated still can
transmit the disease, the concept of masks has to come back. we have to start thinking about wearing masks again when we haven't in the past. we've done it before. we can do it again. and i think it will make a difference. >> do you think it was a bad idea for the cdc to remove those mandates, or recommendations, the mask mandates and recommendations? >> it's always so easy to look back and to judge and say, oh, that shouldn't have happened. but i think at the time with the rates going down as dramatically as they had with vaccine coverage going up, you can see why a recommendation to not wear masks occurred. i think what's happening right now is the guidance is much more specific. look at the amount of transmission that's happening in your jurisdiction. in communities, in counties that have high rates of disease or substantial rates of transmission. those places should actually wear masks. in places where disease is not so high, then wearing a mask may not be as critical. >> we're going to leave it there with dr. you le morita, and
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it's why many japanese citizens have been protesting the olympics, covid cases now surging in tokyo. the city confirming a new record for today, the daily tally, more than 4,000. and it went over 4,000 for the first time ever. but as covid looms large, these games continue. >> yeah, let's talk about the competition. the new headlines, simone biles withdrawing from two other events, the uneven bars and vault finals, both set for tomorrow. this also following conversations with her doctors. the gymnast taking to instagram revealing she has a disorienting
condition known as the twisties. let's head to tokyo right now, laura harris from our nbc 5 station in dallas is joining us from tokyo. laura, we're just learning this term now but a lot of people who skrb following gymnasts for years say it's a common thing that happens, and once you get it into your head it's really difficult to overcome. >> reporter: yeah, and not only is it common, kendis, but it's one of those things where you can't just take some sort of medication for it. you've got to let it just subside. that's what simone biles has been telling our fans as she's been posting to instagram. basically it's a disconnect. she says it's a disconnect between her brain and her body. she wants to throw these amazing twists in the air and do these amazing tricks, but she can't do that if her body is not working in tandem. so as you all said she is not going to be in the vault. and not going to be in the uneven bars, and we'll have to wait to see if she's going to be participating in any other events here at the tokyo olympics. we do know that mykayla skinner is going to replace her.
let's head to the pool now, shall we, with how about this? caeleb dressel. when you're really, really good what you do is, you just go and beat yourself. that's exactly what he did today, winning a gold medal in the 10 meter fly -- 100 meter fly. not only did he win the gold medal but he also broke his own record. that's what we've been watching. that's a big headline. three gold medals at the tokyo olympic games, two of those are individual medals. people doing really big things in the pool. as you all were talking about, as these games are going on, the fact of the matter is, this area is under its fourth state of emergency. more than 4,000 new covid cases were reported today. 155 of those cases were people associated with the olympic games. now, we know that no athletes tested positive but that's still very concerning. i want to put this in perspective for you. 4,000 cases reported today.
just two weeks ago during the opening ceremony that number was only 1,300. you can imagine the concern that's going on right here in japan, this is an area that only has about 25% of the people living here fully vaccinated. kendis, lindsay, back to you. >> i'm curious about the support and the athletes. these are the first olympics with no fans, no family members there. it might be having an impact on simone biles who i know is gloes to her grandparents but you're also getting backlash from texas where you had the assistant attorney general this week who called her a national embarrassment. you're from texas. what sort of support and backlash is she getting? >> yeah and i think it's one of those things where, everybody has an opinion, right, everybody has an opinion but the bottom line is, usa gymnastics has stood behind simone biles this entire time putting out a statement today saying they fully support her and everything she's trying to do. after all this is about her safety. i think it's one of those things
that just happened here in this tokyo olympic games we have seen, everybody has a story and everyone is dealing with something and the way those people deal with it, well that's kind of their own business and that's what a lot of simone biles supporters are saying, it's very easy to check to see what people are saying right now because it's all on social media. and it seems like a lot of people are really supporting her. just wanting her to get better. and thankful that team usa is still winning. >> basically you're saying it's an "a" and "b" conversation, "c" your way out of it? exactly, laura harris joining us from tokyo. she mentioned that deputy attorney general did apologize for those comments. the clock has run out on eviction protections after congress failed to extend it. millions of americans could now be booted from their homes. but some lawmakers are refusing to give up the fight. their overnight protests on the steps of the capitol.
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she's calling out her own colleagues there. >> reporter: yes, because ultimately that actual vote never took place in a forum in which those lawmakers, those democratic lawmakers would have to put their names next to that vote to extend the moratorium. it could impact more than 3.6 million american renters. you saw congresswoman corey bush joined us by alexandria ocasio-cortez up at the capitol just after the house was called into recess there without putting those democratic lawmakers on the records. there was some discontent as shared by as well congresswoman maxine waters. speaker pelosi didn't put up to a vote because there were some democratic lawmakers that were not ready to vote yes. today it expires and there are millions of american renters who owe payments on their rent at a
time in which i was talking with sierra green, just yesterday, a mother of three here, her rent a couple months ago went up from $900 to $1,300 and at a time when there's a great pot of federal funds that have yet to go into the hands of renters despite it being the intention of congress to do so. i want to let you hear from erica taylor, a housing advocate here in the greater atlanta area, and frankly there's not enough people here like erica taylor to help thousands of individuals around the greater atlanta area, take a listen to part of our conversation when i asked her the question of what do they need? >> what is it that you need? >> we need more time, and we also need less limitations on what we have to do in order to get the assistance outside the door. we've run out of time. >> reporter: to put into context here, we're talking about upwards of $43 billion that was
set aside by congress to go to renters here who either suffer job loss or reduction in hours or other hardships as a result of the pandemic here. but in georgia, as an example, just 5.5% of georgia's $522 million intended to go to renters and landlords, because of backlog, and because of the documentation requirements for these renters to prove of their hardships here, just 5.5% of that $522 million has actually made it to renters and landlords and more than half of the states, nbc news has found, less than 10% of that federal funding has made it to renters to help because of the pandemic. which is at the very heart of the argument of those democratic lawmakers to extend that moratorium. this was a situation here that is a crisis that we should be expecting here in these days ahead. eviction notices are already on those doors of individuals here in just this last week. >> absolutely. when you think about, for example, that renter you were talking to whose rent went from
$900 to $1,300, seemingly overnight, you can't afford an extra $400 a month, that's crazy, can't afford to move, that's even more expensive. what are you supposed to do? it's a very important issue and we're so glad you're covering it for us, vaughn hillyard, thank you. another major battle in texas, this one over masks in schools. teachers are calling on governor greg abbott to allow school districts to allow face coverings, in accordance with the cdc's new guidance. this comes after the governor signed an executive order blocking these mandates for vaccines and masks. it's a move that some are saying put students and teachers here at risk. joining me for more is the president of the texas teachers association. avidia, talk to me about this. i just was in arizona. they have a similar mandate here and i was in arizona on tuesday when that cdc guidance changed
and all these schools are saying and all these teachers are saying let our school do something different. don't make it a statewide blanket. where do you stand on this issue? >> that's exactly what we're asking the governor to do. we're asking the governor to allow school districts, if there is a need for masks in their district, in their campuses, then to allow them to do that and right now they don't have the ability to do that. >> do you understand the thinking behind that? some of these governors doing that, most in republican states, are saying they're against federal mandates, for example, during the vaccine, they're saying let us do what we want to do, but then they go and put on the same mandates here on school districts that also want to do what they want to do. do you understand the thinking behind that? >> no, i don't understand the thinking behind it because here in texas we love local control. our school districts have elected leaders that were elected by their community and these school districts, these leaders are asking the governor the same thing that we're asking
them, if the need -- if masks are needed, then they need the ability to keep all students and educators safe and the governor is not allowing them to do that. >> ovidia, i'm going to bring up arizona again, i was just there. there are some school districts that are flouting these rules and they're saying, look, this may be a statewide mandate but we're going to do what we need to do, and the attorneys for the school districts come out and say they have legal standing for this. do you think you're going to see more school districts doing that and have you been talking to any legal experts on what school districts in your state can do? >> right now the person that can change it, and make sure that educators, students, parents are feeling safe to go back is the governor. and he's not wanting to listen. we're having school districts who have the plan to be able to require masks if needed, already ready to go if the governor allows them to do that. and, you know, we're trying to
see how districts can come back and ensure the safety of our students. but right now the governor has tied everybody's hands. and like i said, it's not just us that are asking the educators, but it's also the school districts, the parents, the students, you know, we're asking everybody to sign a petition to send a letter to the governor, they can go to our website and do that. but the governor needs to listen to not just our educators, not just our school districts, parents, but the science. the variant that is out there is going to hurt our kids who are not yet vaccinated. our kids that are 12 and under cannot get the vaccine. so he keeps saying get the vaccine, get the vaccine, they can't, governor, they can't. >> but ovidia, i talked to a pediatrician a couple weeks ago, and they told me essentially that kids aren't known to spread coronavirus as much as adults are. are you consulting with health experts on showing the science and saying, look, this is what
we're hearing and this is why we need this? >> oh, yes, and here's the thing, the science is changing and we want to ensure we are staying up to date with the science. in may when we took away the masks the first time, didn't push down like he has now, things were looking better, things are not better. and the governor needs to understand that. and that's -- the governor needs to take that into account and change his mind and make our students safe. >> ovidia, i have 30 seconds left with you. there's a ban on mask mandates in iowa city, and the "washington post" is reporting that parents are asking the district there to educate masked and unmasked students separately. i don't even know the logistics of that, there's already a teacher shortage in so many school districts, is that an option worth considering? >> that's the other issue we're screaming at the governor, he's creating chaos in our schools. our students can follow rules. we have faith in our students. but he is creating a -- we don't know what we're going to do so we're not going to be safe kind of moment in our schools.
>> ovidia molina, thank you so much and we hope you'll come back to us and let us know updates when school starts. thank you so much. >> thank you. all right, when we come back, a special -- later on today she mentioned on a special saturday edition of the sunday show with jonathan capehart, joined by representative cori bush who slept in front of the capitol. she has a personal stake in the issue as well. you won't want to miss that interview coming audiotape at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. right here, fighting for voting rights. one step at a time. a selma to montgomery style march ends at the texas state capitol today, thousands of advocates are expected to turn out but the path forward on federal legislation is still a murky one.
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you this week, they've marched for 30 miles and now a big rally is planned outside the state capitol there, it's all to protest gop backed voting restrictions and ask for the federal government to step in and do something. >> msnbc reporter gary germbalk is in austin. it's a 27 mile march, what are they hoping to get done. >> reporter: willie nelson sings on the road again, that leads to austin, texas today at the state capitol where thousands are expected to attend a voting rights rally here, going to include beto o'rourke, reverend william barber and willie nelson who will be lending his voice to the cause and we've talked to activists on the ground. they want change to happen but the reality in washington is really a different story. the president and the vice president met with congressional leadership dwred at the white house to talk about the path forward for voting rights legislation. i want to read a quick part of the statement here. they said they agreed on the moral imperative of passing legislation to protect against
voter suppression, electoral subversion, dark money and partisan gerrymandering and will continue working together toward that goal urgently. not a whole lot of specifics there from the white house, but our hill team is reporting that the voting legislation that could come out of this is a bit of a scaled down version. we're talking about things related to voting access. so early voting, and same-day voter registration leaving more complicated, controversial issues for later in the summer, or later next year, but the folks on the ground here are pumped up, they're excited to be here. here's what folks told nbc earlier this week. of. >> we're going to make it to the finish line. nothing compared to what my ancestored had to go through. >> reporter: the special session ends a week from today. the congress is on august recess all week and speaker pelosi did say she will bring her members back for a vote on voting rights
legislation should that be necessary but right now activists are worried if there is a longer wait on this, the momentum will be an issue. kendis, lindsay. >> gary, you have a busy day there and we know you will be on msnbc throughout the afternoon bringing us the latest on that rally. >> and bringing us all of willi. "always on my mind" and "to all the girls i loved before." >> alley will talk with julian castro and jasmine crocket who with her democratic colleagues have been in washington for nearly three weeks in their fight against voter suppression. ali will also talk to reps hank johnson and madeleine dean about infrastructure. >> "mamas don't let your babies grow up to be a cowboy." that's a favorite one. a legal battle brewing in surfside after the condo
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a tunnel for nearly nine hours. the reason is because rain had recently fallen and it had fallen over an area that was burned by a fire. that triggered all of this mud and debris to come flowing in the area. there are around ten mud slides, some as deep as 12 feet and 150 feet wide, according to officials. thankfully nobody was hurt but this area will remain closed throughout the weekend. only a week after recovery efforts ended in surfside, families are still mourning, and now the site of the condo collapse is set to be sold. a tragic loss for loved ones, so the family hopes it might become a memorial. >> ellison barber has more on their wishes. >> this is a complex legal battle, one that could pit those who survived the condo collapse against the families who lost loved ones. a judge ruled that this property could be sold and he appointed a steering committee to try to establish a track for property litigation.
this property will be sold and probably soon. it is a valuable beach front property. the people who survived this collapse need money to try to build their lives. it's now a question of who buys it and what they do with it. is it a developer who building a fancy new condo, a philanthropist, the government or a group stepping in and buying it and stepping in and turning it into a permanent public memorial. we spoke to three people connected, not just by this nightmare, but they were related by blood or marriage. nicki and luis lived on the eighth floor. they planned on having a bigger wedding after the pandemic. moises and andreas and luis were all cousins. their families are pleading for a permanent memorial to be
placed where this condo collapsed and nothing else. >> one thing we knew right away is we didn't want to see a fancy building on surfside where we lost our loved ones. i would like to go often, remember them, honor them, maybe go to the beach where we used to go. >> we see that place as respect, as a green area. it will show that it's not about, you know, buildings, money, it's about respect. i know that they need to sell the land, but also it can be combined with respect, you know? >> we're asking if the government, miami-dade county, the city, fema, even all the way up to the presidential level can step in and see this from their eyes and from our eyes, and try to help us respect the victims
who were a part of this catastrophe. >> a spokesperson with the condo board association declined our request for an on-camera interview. a spokesperson with governor ron desantis' office said in a statement they don't have jurisdiction here because this is public lands. they say they're trying to listen to what all of the victims here have to say and support in that way. what these families really want is for the white house to weigh in. president biden specifically. he came to visit this site, to meet with rescuers, to meet with the families, these families spent quite a bit of time talking with him. they say they want him to weigh in on this, give an opinion, maybe do something to help because they say he's the only person who really understands the grief that they and the other families who lost someone are going through. kendis, lindsay? >> hard to believe it's only been a little more than a month but that place looks completely
different. a long road ahead for them. we have been keeping an eye, of course, on activities taking place in tokyo the summer olympic games taking place right now. it's just before 9:00 p.m. big on the schedule today, the men's discuss, mixed 4x400 relay. tomorrow, we do know that gymnastics will continue without simone biles. >> everybody is waiting to see if she'll compete on monday. in the meantime, thank you for spending your saturday morning with us. i'm lindsey reiser. >> i'm kendis gibson. we'll be back tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. eastern. "velshi" starts now. thought you could no longer be shocked by allegations of misconduct against our failed former president? an enterprising reporter rises to that challenge and joins me next with the damming new revelations that she has unearthed. plus with alarming new data showing the delta variant might spread just as easily from fully vaccinated people as it does
among the unvaccinated, the life or death fight against covid-19 just entered a new phase in america. the hardest part might not be the science itself but convincing americans to believe in the science after the damage done by the trump administration and the continuing barrage of disinformation coming from conservative quarters. inspired by the landmark march on selma of 1965, a group of church leaders and democrats will walk the final mile of their voting rights march across texas this morning. we'll take you there live for the latest from texas and from washington, d.c. to which texas democrats have fled in order to stall a republican voter suppression bill and to plead for federal intervention. and there is a high bar for getting the u.s. senate to work on a saturday. but that's what's happening today. the senate will be in session waiting for the final bipartisan infrastructure bill and we'll be there for it. "velshi" starts now.