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♪♪ it is great to be with you. i'm geoff bennett, and as we come on the air, president biden is set to say that all civilian employees are to be vaccinated or face repeated testing. it is an aggressive move that affects people far beyond washington, d.c., and it is coming as many of america's biggest companies are essentially telling the employees to get the shot or get out. there are also developments coming fast and furious on the
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bipartisan infrastructure plan and it has passed a critical vote with 17 republicans joining the democrats. senator mark warner, a democrat, joining us in five minutes with more on that. including $119 billion for roads and bridges and $66 billion for railways and $65 billion for broadband and $55 billion for water. >> it is a duty of government. >> and even faint praise by mitch mcconnell, the senate leader. but even still, it has to go through the house where they say it does not go enough, and the
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separate $3.5 trillion that the democrats will pass without the republican support. >> because of to vote last night, the senate is now moving forward with the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and we are on track to pass both elements of the two-track strategy before we adjourn for august recess. >> and let's kick it off with the nbc news capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, and it is good to have you with us, friend. how soon could the senate move on this, and what happens when or if they are ultimately going to pass it? >> well, i talked to a senior democratic aide about this, and he said that if the bill text is complete and into lawmakers' hands today, which is still something they are waiting for, you could see the amendment votes as early as this weekend and then potentially a vote for final passage on this bill come next week, but geoff, since we are in the olympic season, the tricky part here is going to be the handoff, getting this bill from the senate to the house and
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in some kind of coordination with that bigger democrat-only bill. in the moments after this infrastructure test vote, this first procedural vote last night passed, i got statements in my in-box from three groups and two moderate groups of house democrats and the one caucus moderates saying, great, the second that it gets here, move on it, and the progressives say, when it gets here, but we would like to see the reconciliation bill before we do anything, and house speaker nancy pelosi handles that timing and how fast the democrats can work on the second track at the same time could be determinative of how or when or even if any either of the pieces of legislation become law. >> garrett, president biden months ago at this point was asked about the dynamic among the democrats in the house and senate, and he said attend of the day, will a democrat vote against this infrastructure bill that he or she might not want in
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it, and is that accurate? how much of this is posturing among the democrats and how much of this is real gripes or grievances? >> that's a long time senator joe biden speaking here, and in fact, i know that speaker pelosi agrees with that sentiment. i remember her speaking in the beginning of the biden presidency of how difficult to navigate a narrow majority of the house, and she said, but we have the white house. and agreeing with the caucus of the party to whip them towards a shared goal is not to be underestimated. i do think that is going to be where some of this goes, do the progressives or the splinter groups or indeed in the senate, any single lawmaker want to stand and thwart the biden agenda or say this is close to what i want, and this is about speaker pelosi and the president
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will be willing to make that bet when it gets to that point. >> garrett haake, thank you. appreciate you as always. and also joining us is senator mark warner of west virginia. thank you for joining us again. >> thank you. >> and you were back on this program on june 24th, and at the time i asked you what is plan to keep at least 10 republicans to get to the ultimate number of 60, and you took issue with the premise of my question. you said at the time, and i actually think that we will get closer to 20 republicans to support this, and it struck me as a risky bet, but it turns out there were ultimately 17 republicans who joined with the democrats at least in this test vote. are you confident that you will have the 17 republican votes or more than that when it is coming time to vote on the legislation itself? >> well, geoff, following with the olympic metaphors, i think that actually the group of the ten of us decided that the next newest olympic sport would be closing a bipartisan infrastructure deal, because god
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knows it took a long time from the interview i had with you in june, but i think that we kind of stuck the landing in terms of the first vote, and when you got, you know, mitch mcconnell saying good things about an infrastructure bill, i think that is a, it bodes well. we have to go through the process. there are going to be some out of the republican caucus who will try everything to try to break this coalition. but, you know, the thing that i think that my progressive friends need to understand, if you take any of the categories and not just roads and bridges, but broadband or water or resiliency or investment in aer smarter grid or the electric charging stations or the electric bussing, and each of the areas have a record amount of investment. many of the areas, we have not invested at all before in. and i echo what garrett said, end of the day, are they really going to stand up against president biden? i can assure you as somebody who has been in both group, both
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part of the infrastructure negotiations, but also part of the budget coming to that 3.5 trillion, and how i was the more moderate member there, you don't get to the reconciliation without passing the infrastructure, and vice versa. >> i would normally, you know, not ask a senator weigh in on the prerogatives of the house, but do you think that the house should wait until they get both of the bills, the bipartisan bill and the reconciliation bill or have the speaker call on it? >> i think that american public is going to want to see this bipartisan activity. we are talking about the reemergence of the covid virus, and bipartisanship, and the american public wants to see us work together to get it done. remember, when we passed what is called the budget resolution next week, and i will be supportive of it as $3.5 trillion as the top line, that is instruction book. it is going to take literally
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months before we work out all of the policy details. everybody is going to have a say. all 50 democrats can, and any one of them can bring it down. so i hope that the speaker once she sees that we have started the budget reconciliation process, and started at $3.5 and making the record investments in child care, and bringing down the drug costs and free community college, and really the bold agenda that joe biden has to kind of reinvent the safety net for americans post covid, i hope she goes forward, but i would never, because nancy pelosi has done this job a lot longer than i would ever hope to do it, and i trust her judgment at the end of the day. >> let's talk dollars and cents, because president biden had originally pitched a $2.52 billion infrastructure bill that had to be scaled down as the talks with the republicans had been under way, and so will the democrats recoup some elements that didn't make it into the
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bipartisan deal with the legislation that you hope comes next? >> well, president biden surprised if group of ten of us when he offered up in the meeting where he announced the support to the bipartisan group that if we had fought over a particular item, and a certain amount of flood control, he would not go back to relitigate that in reconciliation. that is something that the president offered and obviously, the republican partners took him at his word. but there are ways that we can get at some of these issues, and it may not be through direct appropriation but maybe through a change in the tax code. when you are actually looking at the categories that we have taken on, and you are going to compare this in any historic basis to what we have invested in the past, i think that we can meet a lot of the needs in our country. remember, people have been talking about infrastructure for 30 years. i get a little, you know, concerned with some omy democratic partners who say, mark, this is easy, you know,
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this should be a no-brainer, and if it s then why did it take 30 years, and the number that we have come up with is close to double where president biden was with the first republican group. so we have done a good day's work, and ways to address people's concerns going forward, but as we have seen in the 50/50 senate, anybody can be king or queen for a day, and at least on the democratic side, we have to hang together. >> any sort of takeaways from the infrastructure that you think might carry over from other tough issues like voting rights and immigration and gun control? >> well, geoff, one of the things, and this is a little nerdy, but both sides took off the pay-fors, and republicans said we won't touch the trump tax cuts and president biden said we will not use the user fees or gas taxes, and i would have used both of them, so how to get for the pay-for component, and one of things for the moderate can colleagues to
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move forward, we have to make some changes this the tax code, and bring american large corporates back to paying in the middle of the international scheme, and not at the bottom where they are right now, and folks like me have done well, and we have to go back to the levels of taxation that we had in the obama, and i think that there was a general agreement around that. and in terms of how we move forward on critical issues like voting rights which in my mind is the only issue that i would amend the filibuster for, and we have work to do, but the more unity that we can build, the more momentum of showing progress, and putting the points on the board, that builds, you know, success begets success. so, if we can put this one down, and move forward at reconciliation, and at the same time move forward on voting rights, and the other big issue is of course climate change and if somebody was intimately involved in the 3.5 number, and
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i helped to include things like methane fee, and border adjustment tax, but went beyond where president biden and even bernie sanders were, and then on the climate, people will be happy with the product. >> all right. democrat senator mark warner, appreciate your time as always. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. and now, joining us is secretary of labor marty walsh, and i wanted to ask you, because the president is always talking about how he wants the u.s. economy to work for working people, and that is a phrase that he works a lot, and how does this deal help the administration to achieve that goal? >> well, there are protections in there, and the prevailing part of the bill is the working wages, and that is in there and you think about the bill, and think about it from the standpoint of the governor or the mayor to work from the city or the town to use that opportunity to bring new companies and new opportunities from the cities and towns, and also through the department of labor, we will be investing in
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job training, and creating jobs of the future, and so this bill adds and goes along with what the president has done in the american rescue plan and getting the economy back up and running, a allows us to look forward looking here in the united states of america for many different industries. >> i also wanted to ask you about the latest economic number, because the economy it appears from the data grew at annual rate of 6.79%, and this is below the forecasts of 8%, and so to what degree are the backlogs in supply chains and covid holding us back? >> i am concerned about the covid, and what we are seeing and your news station, and others are reporting of the variant spikes in the country and in particular rural america that we get people vaccinate and we have been seeing the growth here in the first six months of the president's presidency, and in average of 600,000 jobs per
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month getting added to the economy, and certainly, some concerns about the supply chain, and the president has addressed some of that, and we have addressed it through the american rescue plan, anded with le continue to do that, but the covid number is what i am a little bit concerned about. as a former mayor, watching this number here, as mayor happening three times as i was mayor of boston and just when you think that you on the other side of the tunnel, then you see a spike. so we have to keep an eye on that, and continue to follow the science. >> yeah. and the numbers are also showing that the labor shortages slowed the pace of economic activity. i want to ask you about the worker shortages that we are seeing in the hospitality and retail, and what is accounting for that? a labor shortage or wage shortage where people are not willing to take the customer-facing jobs with low pay and few benefits? >> well, i think that we are all trying to figure that one out, and that is kind of the maybe baffling is too strong of a word, but concerning for a lot
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of us of how to create more opportunities to get people into the industry, and we have seen the last two jobs of the largest growth in hospitality, and last month tremendously largest number over 551,000 jobs added to the sector. part of the reason, too, is that the sector was pretty much flat, and then as the restrictions started to get lifted over the last few months, we started to see the increase in the sector, so a lot of the contributing factors to the numbers, but i am positive that the numbers will be getting better here in the months of august and september, we will see them grow. as long as we keep the virus under control. >> in a couple of hours from now, ware expecting to hear the president lay out his plan for federal workers to have a vaccination and others working
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with the government to have vaccines? >> a large part of the department of labor is on remote, and people have not come back into the office yet, and we have major concerns about seeing the numbers starting to move up again in the wrong direction, but again, the best thing to do is to push for the people to get vaccinated. for some reason vaccines have turned into a political issue. this is not a political issue, but it is about your health and safety and the family's safety and the people around you, and i can't stress enough the importance of the people to get vaccinate and we have seen the stories of the people on tv who are anti-vaccine, and now they are saying something completely different because they have been sick or the loved ones have been sick or lost family numbers and it is pushing the vaccine. i commend the president for the action today, and we should have rigorous testing if the people are unwilling or refuse to be, vaccinated. >> secretary of labor marty
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walsh. >> thank you. and now, we are break down the medical and the ethical arguments for and against the positions. and coming up, lollapalooza is returning and making a return to chicago, but with covid surging again, can the organizers of the event keep people safe? later, millions of americans are on the brink of eviction with the cdc moratorium set to expire this weekend. what happened to you and your three kids if you do not get this assistance? >> i don't know. i mean, shelter until we can find something. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. seek a commitment to clean.
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can your internet do that? it is public health and it is not political to me, and so it is for safety reasons to make sure that the veterans don't get sick. we don't need that. i don't know why everybody can't get the vaccine. >> when i did it, i felt terrible. >> yeah? >> i don't think that this vaccine is ready to use.
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>> i think it is a long time coming, and it should have happened sooner. >> this afternoon, president biden is expected to announce a new vaccine directive for more than 2 million federal employees across the country. two choices, get vaccinated or submit to strict protocols including regular testing, and mask requirements and restrictions on travel. this is following similar directives from the department of veteran affairs and the states of california and new york. and these big companies like netflix, and google and other corporations will join the vaccine directives for employees and contractors, and this is coming as the delta variant has caused the covid cases to climb in every state. joining us is the nyu grossman school of ethics art caplan, and also the managing editor of
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directing labs. and so i will start with you, art, with the step to get people more vaccinated, and so is this requirement of getting the shot or submit yourself to more testing. is that the best way and the most ethical way to do it? >> i think it is. we have tried persuasion, and many people got vaccinated. we tried the incentives and you remember, geoff, all of the get a free meal, and get into a lottery, and persuaded more people. we are not there. we are worried about the rights of the unvaccinated and we have to start focusing on the protection of the people who are going to get sick or ill or die. morally, the right thing to do is to pub for the mandates. it does not mean that you are to get vaccinated, but it means that your liberty or your
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freedom is going to be restricted if you pose a risk to other people. so it is vaccinate or frequent testing or masking and you will lose job opportunities and lose a lot of the freedom to go where you want. >> and dr. ramirez, when we are talking about the federal workers and people automatically assume that everybody lives in washington, d.c., but it turn out that most federal employees live outside of washington, d.c., and about 35% of that number live in rural areas, and you can see the list there, and most folks live in california and virginia and it is interesting that you have federal workers in texas and florida with the vaccine requirement, and we know the politics of those states, so how much of a difference could this make given that there are more than 2 million people, and 2 million federal employees stretched across the country? >> well, looking at it from two different perspectives, and the arc that the delta variant is working, and it is not likely that this is going to move the needle much. and of the 2 million, at least
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half of them are vaccinated and so this is an additional million people, and that is helpful, but it is not going to dilute the variant, and what dr. caplan is saying, that this is going to push to a requirement and not a mandate, but this is where we will see the effect if other private sector companies see that there is a real pathway and precedent for them to move this forward, then we are lyingly to see it spread to other parts of the economy as well. >> dr. caplan, the own over shake shack danny meyer this morning announcing vaccine requirements for all employees and indoor guests. he said i'm not a scientist, but i see the data, and what i will see is a crisis of people who have not been vaccinate and i feel strong responsibility on our part as business leaders to take care of the team and the guests, and that is what we are doing.
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i know you believe that more companies should be doing that, but the question is how. that is a lot of pressure to put on a 16, 17-year-old kid who happens to work in food service. what are they supposed to do to have people stand at the door and show them their hard copy of the vaccine card or a photo on the phone or something? how does this work? >> well, you know, when you are trying to get into the major cheeseburger place, i suspect that they will be a little more willing to card people since the lines are long at that particular place, but more seriously, you are going to have something on your app, and i have been telling people for a long time, take a picture of your cdc vaccine card, and use that to show to people, and you will probably show it with your driver's license. they have beeneen trying it at e concerts like bruce springsteen and they will try it at lollapalooza, and they will try
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it for entry and it will become more common, and again, let me repeat, it is the private sector to drive us getting to the finish line here in terms of getting us vaccinated. we have done all we could with the education and incentives and we don't want to go back to the lockdowns and go back to fighting about the school masking and lose our travel and recreational opportunities, we have got to use the vaccination to handle these new variants. >> and dr. ramirez, how would things be helped along here if the fda would give full authorization to the vaccinations, and the fact that they are under the emergency use authorization still a obstacle as you will see it? >> yes and no. some opinions put out earlier in the week saying that the vaccines have been shown to be overwhelmingly safe, and enough precedent that the vaccines can be sort of mandated even under the emergency use authorization, and that being said, we are seeing the folks including the defense department and folks in
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the private sector saying that they would like to see the fully licensed approval before putting in place some sort of mandate, but the other part of this that is really important though is around this question of testing and whether we can use that to back fill for people who don't want to be vaccinated. whether that is an option, and the real question is who is going to pay for that test. the insurers were to pay for those tests if there was a reasonable expectation that you were exposed, but there is not if it is purely for surveillance and return to work purposes. so if the policy makers choose to influence the health insurance companies to pass that cost on to consumers we can see an additional lever of pressure applied. >> can i jump in there on that emergency use. >> yes. >> i think that it is within the fda's authority to rewrite the emergency use and say it is time to permit mandates. they issue the regulation, and
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they are sitting on the data, and they could step in and say for those of you still hesitant for legal reasons or whatever reasons to mandate something under emergency use, we as the fda are ready to say, go ahead to do that. that would really help. >> yeah, interesting point. art caplan and dr. mario ramirez, my thanks to both of you. meanwhile, chicago is gearing up for first big test of the post covid vaccination era. lollapalooza is expecting thousands of fans to gather at grant park, and each is to provide proof of vaccination or a negative test in the last three days to get in the door. joining us is shaquille brewster, and shaq, i did not realize that lollapalooza was a thing. i remember watching it on mtv and i'm not sure what that says about me, but tell us what other precautions are in place there, and the folks that you are encountering as the folks are
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walking through the area that you are. are they worried at all? >> well, it is very much a thing, geoff. you can tell by the flood of people coming in, and we have been seeing the lines of people all day long, and as you are talking about the precautions, this is what it is looking like. this is the main gate to lollapalooza, and it is people showing the vaccination cards or showing the proof of negative coronavirus test. that test had to be taken within the past 72 hours, and if they are presenting the test, then the next thing they do is to go to get the mask from up front. this is something that was an agreement between the city and the event organizers and the city leaders and the mayor and the governor, they say this is what is going to make the event safe and these precautions, but some people in chicago say that lollapalooza should not be happening because of the surge that is happening, and while chicago is not experiencing that similar surge, the concern is that this event is going to lead to the surge.
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this is what some attendees told me about the new requirements. >> i bought my ticket one week ago, because i was just very hesitant about the environment, but i know that they are doing everything they can to make sure that we are all safe, and i know that i'm going to be doing everything that i can possibly do to keep the people around me safe. so i am vaccinated. i will be wearing my mask the entire time. >> i think it is the same either way to be honest. i think that if there is covid in there, you can't stop it. >> yeah. it is kind of like being anywhere else though, and just like going to a concert or going to work or going to school or wherever you are at. it is no different. >> i heard your panel having that discussion a little bit before and i wonder if this is the new normal having the wristband and the vaccination card going to a big event like this, geoff. >> yeah, a good point. shaquille brewster there at
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there's breaking news coming in from the place where we started this hour. the u.s. senate has passed a $2.1 billion bill to bolster security in and around the u.s. capitol after the january 6th insurrection and it is including money for the police salaries and the national guard and ways to better secure windows and doors around the capitol complex. after weeks of negotiations it passed unanimously 98-0. and the bill increases number of visas made for afghan allies who worked alongside u.s. forces. >> turning to texas now where hundreds of activists are on day two of the four-day march calling for action to protect
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voting rights. the group led by reverend william barber and congressman beto o'rourke, and so we go to priscilla thompson, and what are you hearing out there? >> yes, geoff, it is over 100 degrees out here, and the marchers are going to be back at it tomorrow and saturday and you ask what the voters a the and activists are saying, and i wanted to bring in one of the folks, marcel mcclinton came from houston to be part of this, and it is day two, and two miles in, and what are some of the sacrifices that you have been in here? >> well, to start, i am missing summer classes, and about $2,000 worth, and missing some work,
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but it is okay, and all worth it to be here in the moment, because it is historic, and we will make it to the finish line, and if i am crawling for crying or whatever it may be, this is nothing to what my ancestors had to do for me to peacefully walk through the streets. >> and we are hearing from washington, d.c., potentially new legislation, and what is your message to the lawmakers and the president of what you want to be? >> we want to pass all provisions of the voting rights act and protect people like me and the folks who are here and marching for hours and hours and miles and miles a day and singing and chanting songs. i am very upset with president biden, because i feel like he is not advocating for us at this moment. what i want him to see is that he needs to stop saying to outorganize voter suppression, but support the elimination of the filibuster and support and endorse the "for the people"
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act, because he needs to step up to the plate. we are at a crossroads. we are facing texas republicans who pass a bill in support of the ku klux klan, and we can't out-organize that and we need federal assistance of that, and if he is incapable of that, he needs to be quiet and go. >> thank you, marcel, for your thoughts. there you have it, geoff. and we got other thoughts from reverend barber about this new bill, and he says that the march has an impact on that and he said that as the biblical story of jericho that perhaps as you march, the walls are starting to fall. >> thank you, priscilla thompson and marcel for willing to speak to with you. and as there is finally movement to the voting rights legislation on capitol hill, and a group of senate democrats who are looking
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to lead the bill, but they are hoping to keep the bill alive after the more sweeping bill was blocked. and texas democrats were back on capitol hill to testify about the voter restriction bills they are seeing at home. those democrats had more meetings with the clintons and georgia's stacey abrams, and joining us now is adam serwer who is staff writer for "the atlantic" and the latest piece is "the democratic leaders are betraying the blackvoters."
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tell us why you wrote something that incendiary? >> well, you have to raise the expectation of that statement saying that you will do something with the federal power that you acquire to protect the rights of the constituents who are the target of legislation that is an attempt to either diminish their access to the ballot or diminish their political influence on the electoral process. if you are not willing to do that, then you are asking for the votes without giving them anything in return. >> i want to draw you out on something that you wrote in the "atlantic" piece, because you say this about the democratic vote sers. the targeted constituencies must treat every election cycle as if their fundamental rights are on the line, and to listen to the democrats target the rights to the franchise as the new jim crow and then watch the same leaders do knotting with the power they are given other than to tell them to outorganize those who are trying to deprive them of the right to vote, this pattern cannot be repeated forever.
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i want to pick up there, and why not? why can that pattern not be repeated forever or else what would happen? >> i mean, the question right now, and so far these restrictions have not been, as effective as prior era of the voting participation in the political process as the jim crow did after eerimenting with voter suppression, eventually, they will find an effective way to suppress the votes of rival constituencies in a way that will pass the supreme court muster in particular because of the conservative majority of the supreme court has taken a position to alleviate the racism rather than the racism in voting. so it may not be this cycle, but the cycle thereafter, and so they will find a way to isolate
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the power from the democratic constituencies so they don't have to answer to the constituencies or respect their rights which is a short circuiting of the democracy itself, and after all the politicians are to be kept in check by public opinion, so if they can insulate themselves from public opinion using these devices, they have no longer have to respect the rights of the constituents. >> i spoke to a top white house official who say they realize they have more work to do with the voting rights, and educate the people with what is at stake, and looking at the raw politics, the president biden's organizing is that he does not expend the political capital unless there is a clear path forward and this is why we have not seen anything on gun control or voting rights legislation, and so what are you thinking of the raw politics at play here? >> well, look, obviously, you know, the -- the democrats would need to change the senate rules
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to be able to pass voting rights legislation with the simple majority and one of the key votes, and probably more quiet opponents of changing the rules, but one of the key votes comes from joe manchin who is a pro-trump state, and he is not inclined to change the rules for something that most of his constituents don't want him to do. but my job is not to make excuses for democrats failing to fulfill their promises. my job is to describe what is happening. what is happening is that the democrat said they would protect the voting rights of the black constituen constituencies, and they are now finding themselves not able to do so. it is fair to describe the obstacles to that goal politically, but it is my job to say that they are not doing the thing that they said they would do. >> adam serwer, appreciate your insights as always. >> thank you. million facing eviction by the end of the week, and there
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the white house called on congress today to extend the eviction moratorium that has kept millions in their homes through the financial hardships of the pandemic. over the past year americans who were behind on the rent were able to stay in their homes, because of the federal moratorium imposed by the centers for disease control. the supreme court recently ruled that the cdc's moratorium must expire on july 31st, unless congress passes legislation, and that leaves millions of americans potentially facing eviction by the end of the week. joining us now is correspondent morgan radford and great to see you. look, there is money allocated to help the renters, but it has not gotten to the people who need it the most. and why is that? >> well, geoff, great to be with you, and that is the most head-scratching question there is. there is a lot backlogs and red
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tape, but simply put, there could be updated guidelines and requirements for the po submission to make this process easier, if they had updates to online portal or had dedicated guides to help people with this process. it can be confusing and the bottom line is that the moratorium has largely protected the renters affected by the pandemic from being kicked out of their homes. for many, geoff, it is making a difference of having a roof over their heads or being on the street, but what people don't realize is that congress has allocated $46 billion to help the renters and the landlords, but many say that the money has been nearly impossible to get their hands on. >> thank you. >> reporter: for tamea and her family, the days ahead are stressful. >> it is impossible. >> reporter: a single-family is forced to quit her job to take care of her three kids when the pandemic hit, and now she is two
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months behind on the rent. >> reporter: what happens to you and three kids if you do not get the assistance? >> i don't know. i mean, shelter until we can find something. >> reporter: she is among the millions of americans who are facing possible eviction once the emergency cdc moratorium on housing evictions expires this weekend. congress allocated $46 billion to help renters in need, but burs and others like her say that getting the money is hard. how difficult is the application process? >> well, they ask for a lot of information like state i.d., birth certificate, and 2020 tax returns, and they make it so hard. >> do you have a computer? >> i was doing it all off of my phone. >> and this is why she was submitting the application by herself. >> reporter: and nbc news requested data from all 50 states and those responding, 41
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states had distributed less than 10% of the rental assistance money from the first federal allocation. according to the u.s. census bureau, here in mississippi, 79% of the adults behind in the rent face likely eviction in two months which is the highest rate in the nation. scott spivey is responsible for distributing mississippi's $186 million of federal assistance. how much of that have you given away? >> $10 million has been either approved for payment or out the door. >> what are the biggest challenges in actually distributing that money to the people who need it? >> awareness of the program, access to technology and just getting word out. i have plenty of money to give qualifying tenants in mississippi. what i need is applications and i need time. >> i can't afford chuld care. >> she hopes that help will come soon. >> do you have hope? >> faith. i know if you just do my part, he'll do the rest. >> and, jeff, i think it's important to note that for nun
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watching your program who might need some of this assistance, the consumer financial protection bureau did lunch a new website this week just days before the eviction moratorium xpurz. expires. tenants landlords can go there to find out what they apply for. >> yeah. the moratorium ends saturday at midnight. lots and lots of people are going to need a lot of help. thank you so much for that great reporting. coming up next, after a series of setbacks, some very golden moments for team usa. including a clutch one by the young woman who just became america's new all around olympic champion in gymnastics. champion in gymnastics scientifi. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is
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there are a lot of headlines coming out of the tokyo olympics to tell you about. the host city just set a local record for covid-19 infections for the third day in a row. 3800 new cases in just the past 24 hours. but still, the games are moving forward. team usa is putting on a show. america leads in the overall medal count with 38. 14 of those are gold. nbc's tommy yamis in tokyo for us. >> incredible moment in sports here in tokyo. there have been a lot of setbacks to the olympics. a lot of setbacks to the women's gymnastics teams. there are not story book endings lately. to night there is a new hero. name is suni lee, she delivered a gold medal for team usa and the most thrilling night of the olympics. it capped off an amazing day for team usa that started with caleb dressel winning a gold medal. caleb getting emotional lanter telling me he could feel the
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pain in the race but he did not want to give up and we're glad he didn't. he ended up winning a gold medal. also in swimming as well, the women's relay team in the 200 meter freestyle, another amazing race. katie la decky swimming the anchor position, coming back to get silver for the team. so happy. at one point in that race they were about a swimmer's length behind both china and other countries including australia. katie la decky able to pull through. she was saying before the race, she was telling the teammates, i got your back. they said, i got your back. upsetting news, sam kendricks from track & field. he tested positive for covid-19. this is a big hit to track & field. he has to isolate and miss the rest of the games. that's the latest from tokyo. >> thanks to tom for that update. a good day for team usa. that does it for us this hour. ayman mohyeldin picks up the next coverage of msnbc reports. e next coverage of msnbc reports ♪ ♪
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