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to address, and it will be part of the scope of what we look at. but that is a big, important question for the whole country that we are going to have to wrestle with. >> andrea mitchell and halle jackson will be here as the commission holds their first hearing and special coverage begins hours from now at 9:00 . and that is our broadcast for this monday night with our thanks for being with us. on behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. >> rachel's got the night off. the date was march 9th, 1974. it was a saturday, which is a little weird because you don't think of big things going down in federal court on a saturday. and this is big. it was really really big. in fact, nothing like it had ever happened before. a whole bunch of top associates of the president of the united states had to march into court
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that day to plead not guilty to a whole bunch of federal crimes. >> good evening, seven men who were once the most powerful of president nixon's it ministration and reelection campaign were arraigned in federal court in washington today. each of them pleaded not guilty as a result of that watergate cover-up in the break-in at daniel ellsberg psychiatry. >> robert arriving in the darkness of the underground garage. some people gathered and came to watch and others to demonstrate. campaign lawyer, now defendant arrived. then, former attorney general john mitchell. there were cheers for charles carlson and there were top aide. john earlington, all those hidden from view. and former alderman gordon
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strong and his lawyer arriving almost unrecognized. and one by one, sandwiched among their ten lawyers defendants responded to the charges which showed first loudly and not guilty all counts, not guilty. carlson, not guilty. ehrlich min, not guilty. holden meant, not guilty. parkinson and strong on, not guilty. when mitchell left, he was taunting with cries of traitor and go to jail and law and order. >> one order was of course one of president nixon slogans and now the crowd outside the courthouse used it to taunt nixon's former attorney general to face his own criminal charges. that was a big unprecedented day. america watching all of these top aides to the president filing into court pleading not guilty to serious crimes and
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giving up their passports. more than four decades later, we got ourselves another president who picked up richard nixon's habit of talking about law in order and also nixon's habit of being surrounded by crooks. but in donald trump's case, instead of all of them being hauled into court for one big crime the way they were under nixon, over the last few years we've had to watch all of these close friends and associates of president trump walk into court one at a time, each of them often facing charges in a completely separate criminal enterprise, each of them unique. like snowflakes. we watch trump's personal lawyer and arriving court to face charges of making hush money payments to trump's alleged mistresses. we watch trump's national security adviser had into court to face charges of lying to the fbi. when trump's campaign chairman was indicted on a rat of felonies including tax and bank fraud, we had to walk very fast like maybe he get out around the press. trump's longtime political adviser, roger stone, did the
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walk like he does everything else, flamboyantly trust like a cartoon villain and attended by a giant entourage to face his sentencing for lying to congress and witness tampering. and when trump's strive fraud strategist who is donating to a fund to build trump's law but were actually just donating to steve bannon's pockets, quite amiable and jolly for the courthouse looking quite tanned and relaxed because they've been just arrested that morning on a chinese billionaire's yacht. still wearing two shirts though, always with the two shirts. and now today, we've got the chairman of trump's inaugural top eric arriving at federal court in brooklyn to plead not guilty to charges of acting as an agent of a foreign government of the united arab emirates and lined to federal authorities about it. he's out on 250 million dollar bond is far as we can tell, the highest bond ever set in this
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country's history. he had to give up his passports and he's gonna be monitored via an electronic ankle bracelet. and after his plea barracks said he's innocent of all these charges and he'll prove that in court. and he will have to prove it in court because unlike so many of trump's other friends and associates charged with or convicted of crimes, for tom barrack, it is too late for trump presidential pardon. even looking through nixon and watergate as a country, we're not accustomed to watching our courtrooms play host to this never parade of government and campaign officials and presidential friends and donors all from a single long term presidency. and it's not just high-profile figures. the upper echelon of trump's inner circle, are close courts from coast to coast are packed with people, hundreds of them who are charged with committed crimes in the former presidents name. many of the americans who attacked the capital on january
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6th are in explicitly arguing in court that president trump told him to do it. he told him the election was being stolen. he told them it had to be stopped. he told them to go to the capital. donald trump's whole second impeachment was based on the allegation that his actions and rhetoric in the weeks leading up to january six, up to and including his intense incendiary speech on that day led directly to the capital insurrection. and so here is where else we are in unprecedented territory as americans right now. not only are we still grappling with the aftermath and repercussions of january six, not only are it's hundreds of alleged perpetrators still making their way through the legal system as we speak, but the dynamic that led to the insurrection, donald trump and his allies riling up his supporters with the big lie and accusations of a stolen election and demands that
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something be done about it, that is ongoing. i mean, there's no real analogy for the situation but imagine if after all those nixon officials want to trial and a few months later, nixon resigned under threat of impeachment, they went on a national watergate speaking tour and they held rallies to tout crowds to be back in office any minute as long as the supporters did everything they could to keep obstructing that deep state fake watergate investigation. well this weekend, donald trump was in phoenix arizona peering in front of a giant backdrop, a backdrop that said president donald j trump as if he's still the president. he was there and he praised on the ongoing so-called audit of 2020 ballots in maricopa county being run by the cyber ninjas at the direction of arizona republicans. in his rally this weekend, the trump said the arizona audit and all the audits that the republicans are trying to start in other states will reveal
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that the election was stolen. and then, he implied, that he will be reinstated as president. trump's buddy, the pillow salesman, has actually put a date on it now. trump will be reinstalled on august 13th, mark your calendars, friday the 13th. as with all things trump, it's funny and ridiculous and dangerous. there's a fear that some of trump supporters might actually be marking their calendars. here is the brand new chief of the u.s. capitol police speaking to cnn this weekend. >> is that concern you? we may see a repeat of january six? >> i would be a fool not to be concerned about that. >> we know this chatter and some of these extremist forms looking into august and some of these extremists thinking that that's a month that the former president is going to be reinstated. have you seen any intelligence in the run up to august or what is possibly slandering august that concerns you? >> certainly, we are absolutely
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laser focused on information like that. we're paying attention to that. we're not going to show all over kurds and say these are all the things we know but i can tell you this, we're going to plan for everything we know. >> that's the new capitol police chief that's got a lot on his plate right now even us his force has to prepare for more possible violence stemming from election conspiracy theories. they're still suffering from the after effects of january 6th. many officers were injured that day and one died later of stroke and two others later died by suicide. the washington post reports that many officers are still coming to grips with the full extent of their injuries, both physical and emotional. quote, they have emerged from january six with a complex jumble of physical and emotional trauma that is made diagnoses and treatment challenging. the problem some officers said his made more difficult by efforts of republican lawmakers to downplay the riot. even as the former president is
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not on the road, pushing the big lie and riling up his supporters and raising the specter of more violence. still, his allies in congress are busy rewriting the history of the insurrection describing it as a normal tourist visit. describing the insurrectionists as peaceful patriots, even taking up the insurrectionists cause. tomorrow, several of the trumpiest members of congress including matt gates, currently under federal investigation himself are holding a press conference outside the justice to demand answers on the treatment of january 6th prisoners. and republican leaders of congress have done everything they can to block serious investigation of what happened on january six. first blocking the creation of a bipartisan commission, then trying to stack the new house select committee with members of congress who actually push election conspiracies and downplayed the violence of january six. and then boycotting the committee altogether. speaker pelosi is appointed to
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republicans to the select committee anyway, at illinois adam kinzinger with liz cheney. and today they mark 31st anniversary, by the way, of the great bipartisan triumph of the american with disabilities act. house republican leader kevin mccarthy took time out with the press court to attack nancy pelosi and his two republican colleagues who joined the select committee, calling them -- hope you're sitting down for this one, pelosi republicans. with or without the cooperation of kevin mccarthy or any other republicans not naming liz cheney or adam kinzinger, that house select committee to investigate the january 6th attack will begin its work tomorrow and its very first hearing will feature testimony from police officers. four police officers who are at the capitol that day, two from the u.s. capitol police, two from the d.c. metropolitan police. some of these officers have been visiting lawmakers in recent weeks trying to get their voices heard. well tomorrow, we all will get to hear their stories and the
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committee says that the hearing will also include new video from the attack that is not been seen publicly before. what should we expect tomorrow and what should we expect from this investigation as it moves forward? joining us now, congressman jamie raskin of maryland. he's a member of the select committee and he served as the leading manager in the second impeachment of donald trump. he's also a member of the judiciary committee. he's a former constitutional law professor as well. congressman raskin, thank you so much for joining. it's good to see you again. >> it's great to see you. >> congressman, let's talk about what happens here. just this evening, in the house of representatives, they had a republican house leader trying to get his nominees to this committee seeded. he still thinks that there is some play that he had there but we are moving ahead. it's bipartisan weather needs to be or not, it's bipartisan and it's moving ahead tomorrow. with the success look like for you? >> success looks like an
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investigation that gets up the truth and we're not gonna be distracted by any of kevin mccarthy's circus antics are sideshows here. we're starting off on the law enforcement officers cause they're on the frontlines defending congress and defending the democracy against these waves of medieval style violence. they're gonna describe getting beat up and really grow some awful things that will run on for four or five hours. this was a premeditated coordinated violent assault on congress of the united states and of course it's pathetic that you've got members of congress and people like kevin mccarthy who are doing everything they can to sabotage real investigation but i think speaker pelosi has outmaneuvered them despite the fact that we rejected the independent commission that
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they demanded five republicans and five democrats with subpoena power and we did that in the republican still told it because they don't want a real investigation and america is really starting to ask the question, what is that there? hiding because it's not all about donald trump. you don't attack the congress of the united states with one guy so we're looking at what's networks of political influence and domestic violent extremism that got together to attack congress on january six when we were counting electoral college votes. how did they try to smart the democratic process and stop the peaceful transfer of power? you're going to hear from a few police officers. we are going to hear from a capitol police officer harry dunn, metropolitan police officer michael fifth don't, who we've heard of from an tv and daniel hodges. they will present evidence very much like you did at the impeachment trial.
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evidence that matches up with images that many of us have seen, and are familiar with that you described. this medieval attack on the capital. but this other issue that you want to get to the bottom of. the network of influencers. the extremists who were in there. how do we get to the bottom of? that who do you call and how do you get them in front of the committee? to explain who inside congress empowered these insurrectionists? >> that's going to be the next wave of investigative process. we have got some top flight investigators and lawyers and staffers here on capitol hill. who have come together as part of a select committee, to try to unearth what we're all of the networks of influence that got together, to mobilize this attack on congress. we have subpoena power, we have investigative power, and we are going to let the chips fall where they may. we are going to follow every
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possible lead in order to determine what happened, how it happened, why it happened, who paid for it, and are they still out there. what do we need to do to prevent the next attack. because the political scientists will tell you that the shortest sign of a successful coup, is a recently failed coup. where the perpetrators were able to study the weaknesses, and the inadequacies in the security program that exists. this is deadly serious business and that we have a very cohesive bipartisan committee that's going to work to get to it all the answers. >> after january six, you really describe the effect that it had on you. your daughter had seen it and been there. how is it that one's party can affect their need to get to the bottom of an attack at their workplace, that targeted all of you? your staff, your police, your security, in your case your
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family. how does that fall along partisan lines? i'm sure you have asked this question of your colleagues. >> i have to say, that overstates it. it's not along partisan lines. cheney and kinzinger are proving that the republicans out there who are not afraid to examine these actual events, and underlying causes. it's one guy. it's 80 or 90% of the publican party who has come under the psychological spell of donald trump. and we were living through the remarkable moments, when a modern political party is behaving much more like an authoritarian religious cult of personality. where one person dictates when everybody says and when everybody does. but kevin mccarthy comes out today and he calls my colleagues pelosi republicans, it's clear that he sees a patriotic american acting beyond political party. and he sees a pelosi republican. that's the way that all of the trump robots see it.
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it's really scary. but you are going to see in this select committee, real bipartisanship at work. every member of the committee is contributing a lot. working together for a common goal of trying to determine what's took place on january six and how do we make sure it never happens to us again. >> congressman good to see you. godspeed on your. we're congressman jamie raskin. member of the select committee. we have a lot of news to get to tonight. what looks like be a big step in the fight against covid, and against people who refused to get vaccinated. that's next stay with us. that's next stay with us that's next stay with us no-no-no-no-no please please no. ♪ i never needed anyone. ♪ front desk. yes, hello... i'm so... please hold. ♪ those days are done. ♪ i got you. ♪ all by yourself. ♪ go with us and find millions of flexible options. all in our app.
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back to indoor mask mandates today. in louisiana, one of the largest hospitals is stopping non emergency surgeries. a single county in central florida, is seeing 1000 new covid-19 cases a day. now hospitals there are near capacity. the mayor, saying they are in crisis mode. it's easy to remember a time when these kinds of headlines were routine. but it's unfathomable that we are back here again. with a highly contagious delta virus on the rise. look at the radio screen. all 50 states and the country are experiencing a significant growth in covid cases. in the last month, the rate of
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new cases per day has quadrupled nationwide. and that trajectory is fueled by the millions of americans who remain unvaccinated. states have tried giving people free beer, free food, cold hard cash as incentives to get the shot. still, only 49% of the country is fully vaccinated against covid. well below the threshold needed to achieve herd immunity. and so now, with crisis mode bearing down on us once again, some states are pulling out the last tool in their arsenal, to try to curb the spread of covid. we saw it for the first time last month, when the hospital system in houston texas, required all of its health care workers to get vaccinated if they wanted to keep their jobs. it was a little bumpy at first. more than 150 workers quit or were fired for not complying. a group of them filed a lawsuit against the hospital, but since then 98% of the employees at the hospital system have been fully vaccinated. 2% received exceptions or
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deferrals. and the judge in the lawsuit tossed out the case. she said the hospital was just quote, trying to do their business of saving lives without giving patients the covid-19 virus. if you measure success here by how many people got vaccinated in the ecosystem of people working at this one hospital system, this worked. a 97% vaccination rate among a single group of people, is probably higher than anywhere else in the world right now, so now other people are running houston's playbook. today, both the city of new york and the entire state of california announced they will require all their employees to either get the covid vaccine, or subject themselves to weekly testing. this new rule will apply to around 340,000 municipal workers in new york city. from teachers to police officers to government officials. in california, it implies to every state employee, roughly a quarter of 1 million people.
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plus 2 million onsite public and private health care workers in the state. the department of veterans affairs also issued a vaccine requirements today. for all of its health care employees. working in the va health system. it applies to 115,000 frontline health care workers. it is the first vaccine mandate at the federal level in america. just tonight, the justice department has issued an opinion that says, federal law does not prohibit businesses or agencies from imposing covid vaccine mandates. this may encourage more businesses across the country, to issue these requirements. get the shot or do not come to work. there is been a flurry of action around mandating the covid vaccine for certain places of the population. it is a trend that many medical professionals hope to continue. nearly 60 different medical groups, issued a joint statement, calling for a mandatory vaccine requirements for all health care workers in the united states. for many groups on the list, it
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was the first time they made such a public endorsement, of mandating vaccines. their reasoning is clear. they write quote, as the health care community leads the way in requiring vaccines for our employees, we hope all other employers across the country will follow our lead in implement effective policies to encourage vaccination. the health and safety of u.s. workers, families, communities in the nation depends on its. end quote. joining us now is doctor rachel villain away, but the president of the national medical association. nearly 60 medical organizations that signed on to the joint letter, recommending a vaccine mandate, among health care workers. there is also assistant professor -- gynecology at the nyu grossman school of medicine, and a member of the medical advisory group of the black help. trust thank you for joining us doctor. your response first of all to this new news, of the department of justice issuing an opinion to say it would not
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be a legal, in their opinion, for businesses and organizations and employers to issue a mandate. >> thank you for having me. i think it is such a great piece of information, in our arsenal against the covid-19 vaccine. to have this information. it is critically important, that we encourage all members of society that are able to get the vaccine to get vaccinated it's only the way we are going to surmount the pandemic. >> it's kind of interesting. let's just put of the cdc's latest numbers on vaccinations. the percentage of the total population that is fully vaccinated is just under 50% right now. 49.1%. you can see the second line to the right to the screen. doctor villaneuva are you surprised that were bumping up against this level of resistance? is this what you have expected? >> i'm not surprised.
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i'm disappointed. but i'm not surprised. i think we have had a lot of it's been politicized, it has been there's been so much misinformation, around the vaccine. and i think confidence in the vaccine is not very high. and so i am not surprised. i think it is not unusual for any individual to have concerns about taking a new medication, or a new vaccine. but it is critical that we encourage all members, across america, who are able to get the vaccine, to get it. >> you are an obstetrician, a gynecologist, you are in the business of dealing with people's fears about medicine, what they don't know about medicine, and doctors in theory should have a great deal of empathy for people. how do you blend the empathy that you have for people who
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are fearful, maybe subject to the misinformation about the vaccine, with the fact that it is affecting the rest of us. we are actually seeing another wave of covid coming back, because this virus is spreading the way it is amongst unvaccinated people, and affecting those of us who are vaccinated. >> i think it's very simple. it's being a doctor 1:01, or being a health care provider 1:01. you really have to listen to your patients. it's not, you can't really beat them over the head with the information, you have to meet them where they are. you have to help educate them, you have to validate their concerns, and walk them through why so important. and at the national medical association, we are primarily the underserved, marginalized and under-research populations, whose vaccine rates are significantly lower, then the general population. so for our organization, it was
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so important for us to sign on to this statement, so that we could encourage our own patients to take the vaccine. >> i have written down the word so i say it right, the politicization you are talking about about the vaccine. masks were politicized before the vaccine, and now doctor fauci is suggesting that revise max gun dense is under active consideration. fauci said on sunday revising guidance is part of the discussion. the taking off of the mask, in places where people are vaccinated, felt like a return to normalcy. do you think we might have to go back to everybody being masked? >> i would definitely leave that up to the experts. what i will say is that, we see a return to normalcy. but now we're seeing a surge, and a return to what we saw last year. increased rates, cases of covid-19, hospitalizations, and
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deaths. over 90% are in people who are not vaccinated. as far as the vaccination, we encourage all that are able to get vaccinated to get vaccinated. and whatever strategies we need to do to surmount the pandemic, and the covid-19 virus we will do. if that means that experts decide we need to to continue to wear masks, or vaccinated people need to start wearing masks again, that i think that's what we need to do. i think nobody wants to live through the trauma that we've lived through, last year. in the number of deaths we lived through. so whatever we need to do, we will do. >> i think that's the right attitude. doctor rachel villaneuva thank you for joining. us rachel villaneuva -- gynecology at the end why school of medicine. i managed to say that properly the second time. on thursday, rachel told you how a group of african american men, including a sitting member
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ramping up its season of moral direct action on voting rights. today it held 27 rallies, in cities across the country. in phoenix the reverend william barber and jesse jackson, held a rally to put pressure on sentencing chris -- they want her to support the end of the filibuster in the passage of the voting rights bills. after the rally they let a march through the streets, to her office where they held a sit in. blocking the entrance as they saying, this little light of mine. both civil rights leaders word rested at the sit in. later they posted this photo of
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himself and zip ties, with the caption, we have to get the shackles off our democracy. the senator responded to defend her support of the filibuster, saying eliminating the procedure to pass voter registration could lead to more restrictive voting laws down the line. it's been over a month since republicans bloated to back the for the people act, and the frustration is, growing not just with senator sinema and her counterpart joe manchin of west virginia, but also with president joe biden. barbara will be in texas tomorrow, to launch a four-day march to the texas state capital, to draw more attention to the need for voting rights protection. today marks two weeks since texas democratic state representatives left for d.c., to deny the texas legislator a quorum, thus telling a bill that would restrict voting access in that state. and since then, that group of texas democrats met with the vice president, house majority whip james clyburn among launder lawmakers, but have not
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been able to get a meeting with the president himself. and their frustration is starting to bubble over. during your email offers call with a member of time congress, -- he won't meet with us, and i'm trying to be tactful, but i don't know how else to say it man, i'm just pissed off at this point. here's what latosha brown, cofounder of black lives matter told political. hope is quickly turning into frustration, constantly we are showing up to protect democracy. when are those who claim they are committed to democracy, going to show up to protect those that protect democracy? >> joining me now is latosha brown, cofounder of black lives matter. let's asha you have spoken patiently with us for a very long time. you too are running out of patience. at the same time you are being joined by this direct action. we are seeing arrests in acts of civil disobedience on a
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daily basis across america. in a matter we have not seen largely since the civil rights movement. >> absolutely because we have not seen the kind of a front, the kind of attack on voting rights that we are seeing right now. it's so much of what we saw in the sixties. this is just not about voter i.d., this is about states in the gop putting themselves in a position where they're weaponizing the administrative process, so they can actually take over, on the election results. we are seeing that in georgia, we are seeing that all across this nation, to the extent that the texas democrats had to flee, from their homes to go to d.c., to try to stop this voter suppression, and that's a demonstration of how intense this fight we are in right now. so while we are seeing, this these direct actions, this is not going to stop. this is not something that is just going to go away. this is not something we can now organizer out litigate. we are going to have to have federal legislation to make sure that we protect voting rights, and really unravel what a lot of the damage the republicans are doing right now.
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>> let's take a look at the states that are enacting restrictive laws right now. these are states voting rights laws pushing for audits, things like that. and then of course you have, i'll share a second map, these are states that are actually effort-ing these audits. like pennsylvania and michigan. where they may not get much traction but they are trying. let's asha. so people who are not directly affected by this, as you in georgia were in, or people in texas were, until everybody understands this is a front and all voting rights. we are not activating the rest of the population how do we get the rest of the world to understand this is not a black urban problem, a black voters of the self problem, this is a democracy problem. >> i think there's a number of things that we have to do, we have to be honest and what's happened in georgia this is widespread all across the nation, and while black voters and brown voters have been targeted, anybody in the most
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dredges laws come up, the truth of the matter is that it is going to impact all voters. that's every single one of us. anytime, one of these that we have to help people understand, is that anytime a political party be the libertarian the green the republican doesn't matter, anytime a political party abuses that power to really be in their authority to actually take laws in place, so that whoever does not vote for them, they can punish, or they can prevent them from voting or making more difficult, that that in itself is political corruption. that is literally the unraveling. that is how democracy dies. when we look at undemocratic institution in nations all across the world, when you are starting to see the effects of democracy and how latosha democracy was taken down we are seeing those effects right now, and we're seeing those steps and so we really have to recognize there's a larger issue that needs to be done and just the right to vote. anytime a party is abusing and
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administrative process, to literally be able to navigate and be able to create the results they want. which is precisely what trump is asking them to do in the last election. >> natasha, thank you again for your time tonight, thanks for your continued efforts to preserve everybody's right to vote. latosha brown is the founder of black votes matter. we're gonna be joined live here by richard angle, he is going to be with me on set and he has a lot to say about his time in afghanistan last week. we'll be right back. ht back. okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown, your sales rep lisa has to send some files, asap! so basically i can pick the right plan for each employee... yeah i should've just led with that... with at&t business... you can pick the best plan for each employee and only pay for the features they need. what's on the horizon?
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longest war. quote, when the u.s. pulled out of vietnam, there were unfortunate, sometimes tragic repercussions for some of the vietnamese who assisted our troops. the idea of the house bill was to not let that happen again. to appreciate loyalty to. demonstrate empathy. to emphasize humanity. the bill before the most unmistakably and indisputably good. in voting, no, congressman gosar and biggs prove themselves to be unmistakably and indisputably the opposite. gosar and biggs are not the only republicans facing bash slash for voting against helping the translators. the veterans group released this ad targeting two different republicans for their vote against the bipartisan bill. them >> when nearly every republican and democrat in congress comes together to make sure local interpreters who served as faithfully and kept our troops safe are offered a way out if they want it. guess who teamed up and voted to abandon them to the taliban
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them? both for it in green. this access of evil wouldn't know a patriot of one stepped up and shook their hands. they don't respect service and sacrifice. they ridicule those who serve and praised traders and insurrectionists. if overturn green won't stand up for america, let's make it our mission to replace them with people who will. >> there are just 46 days left until we reach the biden administration's under ogstad line. 46 days. and despite the efforts of those republicans, other members of congress and veterans groups across the country are doing everything they can to try to save those afghan translators and their families before it's too late. with each passing day, the challenge faced by those translators becomes more dire. thousands of afghans eligible for a u.s. visit face a perilous journey through taliban-controlled territory just to reach the capital,
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kabul, from which they can be evacuated. muhammad, a 33-year-old i.t. technician in kandahar who worked for the u.s. military told nbc news our city is surrounded. it can fault to taliban militants anytime. as the u.s. the parts, the one reports that civilian casualties are at a record high, up nearly 50% over the same six month period a year ago. meanwhile, on the battlefield, the taliban's grip on the country continues to grow. they now control about half of afghanistan's district. the bright red areas on this map shows how much territory the taliban has taken. that's just three months. over the past week, the u.s. has supported the afghan army with airstrikes but it remains unclear how much longer that support will last. so as the situation on the ground enough ghana stan continues to get worse and with that nato withdrawal 95% complete will happen to the u.s. allies in a country that
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is desperately looking for a way out. looking for a way out. joining us now our chief correspondent who's with me in pe. richard you are the first correspondent i've been in person with a new year and a half. so welcome and thank you. >> it's been a great honor. i'm surprised. i didn't know i'm the only one here. i'm not in new york very often. i came in from afghanistan and looking around there's nobody home. >> we're getting back to normal we hope. afghanistan is not. and your reporting on afghanistan, is actually and totally very different from what the biden administration is saying is going on. they're saying there's a train military and a strong military and strong in force and they're saying they can handle the taliban. everybody on the ground is saying that doesn't look like that's gonna go. >> look at the map you just showed. and the quote you just put on the screen. many cities are surrounded and the taliban could probably take most of afghanistan, if it wanted to. if the u.s. pulled back and
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stopped these last air strikes, that are carrying out to just keep the door open, during the last bit of the exit that happens. the taliban could probably take it. it seems like they've been holding off. they have surrounded a lot of the major capital areas, or major urban centers. it may have set themselves up in a position to take over militarily. there's a negotiated process going on, negotiators, taliban representatives i've spoken to, don't put a lot of faith into that. even officials don't put a lot of faith in the. they think the taliban are just waiting, wasting time, allowing this process to go on and on. in theory with their negotiating about, is a future power sharing, and which the afghan government, in which the u.s. is backing till now, negotiates with the taliban and says will be a half. we'll give you 40. percent will give you 60%. in the television saying okay let's just keep, talking list just keep talking. and they set up their troops in a position around all the cities, around kabul.
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so as soon as the last of the american troops leave, they can take those cities, and then that process will be meaningless. why would they give anything now and negotiations when they're poised to take those. >> those kinds of power sharing agreements have not worked very well in the mini east, we've seen them fail and -- it's absolutely tragic. it was avoidable frankly. okay it's america's longest, for 20 years. you think you would've had time to plan for an exit like this, in this deal to pull out, was signed by president trump, so it's been a long time that they have had to plan for this day, the u.s. military does planned very well. they were able to get out their troops safely so far, they've been able to get out a lot of equipment, a lot of weapons. i don't know why they didn't put any thought into this. and there are still thousands and thousands of people there, who cannot come into kabul, and send in their forms and get processed.
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and they are going to die. they are going to die when something happens. >> we fully understand the argument that joe biden has made about getting out of afghanistan, america's longest war. hoping will be an outcome that we keep hoping, for sending another generation of soldiers in their. that makes a lot of sense. on the other side what is the danger of afghanistan falling? >> many. aside from the horrible outcome for the translators and all the people who work for us, which is a moral failing, it also sends a message to the rest of the world. who's gonna work with us again if this is which you do to the people who sign contracts, got paid, risk their lives, went on missions, and you leave them to die. who's going to work with us in the future. but then afghanistan itself, the taliban are using this as an enormous rallying cry, and already they're about 22 different extremist groups operate in the region. they are already coming to join the party. they want to see this taliban victory. the taliban is going to be able to save for generations to come,
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that it pushed out the united states. it did what isis could not, do it did well al-qaeda could not do. it will become the champion of extremist groups. and that does a lot of damage. it encourages the extremist, it could potentially destabilize pakistan, and that's an interesting dynamic here. because pakistan played a big role in supporting the taliban. now pakistan is worried about spillover. it's worried that in encourage this fire, the fire to jump over the border engulf pakistan as well. pakistan is a massive country, 200 million people. nuclear weapon. so destabilizing pakistan. allowing afghanistan to become this symbol, or this taliban to become a symbol of extremist defiance in victory, and then the moral baseless behind the translators. there is still a little bit of time, but the window is closing for that. >> thank you for your quick
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reporting on this and telling us what to be. it's good to see you. we absolutely will. you're always welcome here my friend. richard engel is nbc's chief foreign correspondent. one more story, stay with us will be right back after the break. after the break. break. than the leading allergy spray at hour one. [ deep inhale ] claritin-d. get more airflow. don't settle. start your day with secret. secret stops odor- causing sweat 3x more. and the provitamin b5 formula is gentle on skin. with secret, outlast anything. no sweat. secret. all strength. no sweat. ♪all by yourself.♪ you look a little lost. i can't find my hotel. oh. oh! ♪♪ this is not normal. no. ♪♪ so? ♪♪
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out late channel 4 news, tricked one of excellence senior lobbyists into thinking he was interviewing at a position for another company and listen to him discussing exxon's approach to climate science. >> did we aggressively fight against some of the science? yes. did we join some of these shadow groups to work against some of the early efforts? yes, that's true. >> exxonmobil insist that its lobbying fully complies with all laws and this thing was just the latest effort in a decades long campaign by greenpeace to smear them. we do not know that but the house oversight committee intends to get to the bottom of the matter. today, that committee sent a letter to keith mccoy the lobbyist in question, requesting his presence for a transcribed interview on the matter under oath. the committee wants an answer by friday.
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if the lobbyist denies their request, a subpoena could be right around the corner. as rachel would say, watch this space. that does it for us tonight, we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening my friend. >> good evening ali. this is the closest we've been all year. i'm down on the third floor and europe on the fourth floor and this is my first time in the new york studio this year so pretty exciting. >> i think it might be our first time ever in the same building. i didn't even know that was a loud but it's great to see you my friend and have yourself an excellent shift tonight. >> thank you ali. well, this week is infrastructure week in washington and that and furious donald trump because in the biden presidency infrastructure week actually means working on infrastructure legislation. and the trump presidency infrastructure week was a constant joke. a bipartisan group have been working on the

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