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on it. congressman adam schiff the head of house intel joins us live. in the covid crisis today, to mandate or not no mandate. in the last couple of minutes, new york city is about to announce vaccines will be mandatory for all city employees, including teacher, police officers, firefighters, all of it as millions of health care workers are out this morning, calling for vaccinations to be required in their field while another big city reimposes a mask mandate. will the federal government do the same? i'm hallie jackson. we start in washington with leigh ann caldwell on capitol hill. leigh ann, brand new reporting on who is giving opening statements tomorrow and who else speaker pelosi is considering adding to the committee. >> reporter: good morning, hallie. representative benny thompson, the top democrat on the committee is giving an opening statement tomorrow and so is representative liz cheney, a republican who is on this committee, of course, she's his pick by speaker pelosi.
another member, representative jamie raskin told me the other day that representative cheney is not a formalized role that she is going to be the ranking republican, but it seems obvious, because she is the top republican, she was at the time the only republican, now we have a second, representative adam kinzinger, whose sources told me he wants this position. he wanted to be on this committee. he's like-minded on this issue as representative cheney and even speaker pelosi. so that position was formalized just yesterday, and all of this is happening as they are set to hold their first hearing just tomorrow, with two members of capitol police and two members of the d.c. metropolitan police, all four of these police officers have been on the front lines and this will be the first time congress will formally hear from rank and file police officers who experienced that day. now, the question is, there are still four slots left on this
committee. is speaker pelosi going to name another republican, my sources are telling me there's no one who is completely obvious and what is leader mccarthy do? is he going to want all of these nine members to set the narrative or is he going to try to still put someone on this committee or is he going to try to counter message from the outside. either way, he's already trying to undermine the credibility of this committee despite the fact there are two republicans on it, hallie. >> leigh ann caldwell live on the hill, thank you. watch special coverage with myself and andrea mitchell tomorrow 9:00 eastern. i'll join her with our team of correspondents and analysts tomorrow. this morning covid front a massive show of force from dozens of big medical groups including the american medical association out with a joint statement calling for mandatory vaccinations for every health
worker in the u.s. as we were coming on the air for the broadcast, new york city set to call for mandatory vaccinations for all city employees. the federal government actively considering potential new rules and in the midwest, st. louis is becoming the latest city to require everybody to wear masks inside starting today. public officials there are about to brief everyone on that decision. you're taking a live look at that. gabe gutierrez is in birmingham, alabama. shaq brucer in center, dr. derek cass, er doctor at columbia university medical center is also with us. gabe, you're in alabama. you live in new york and that is where some big news is coming in on the air. mayor bill de blasio according to wnbc set to announce that city employees will be mandated to wear masks. talk us through what this means and the implications here. >> reporter: hi there, hallie. according to wnbc in new york city, employees there starting
with those that work in congregate settings will be required to get a vaccine and this builds on what mayor bill de blasio announced in new york last week that all employees at city-run hospitals would be required to get a vaccine or submit a weekly covid test. now, this comes as fears of the delta variant expand across the country, and hallie, you had mentioned also that health care groups, 57 of them representing doctors and nurses and other health care provingals and the american medical association signed a letter shared with "the washington post" calling for vaccination among all hospital employees but hallie, as you know, this is controversial really across the country, not all health care workers have been vaccinated. the hospital i'm at here in alabama, 70% have been vaccinated but i was at another in jacksonville, florida, last week, only 60% of health care workers had been vaccinated. last week in new york, there was also a rally outside one of the hospitals there, where they were at least dozens of health care
workers protesting the possibility of any vaccine mandates. so certainly very controversial decision there. hallie, i also want to mention some other moving parts on the covid front. over the weekend, dr. anthony fauci in an interview said that federal mask mandate was "under active consideration." of course as you know, that would be a very tough sell in certain parts of the country, especially the south, where many city officials have been reluctant to impose such mask mandates and one last thing, hallie, the "new york times" reports that booster shots, according to senior administration officials, booster shots may be necessary, at least they're looking at that for vulnerable populations. that's people over 65, and those who are immunocompromised and that marks a shift from what we heard several weeks ago, when more testing or excuse me, more research would have been needed with regards to those booster shots. one more thing i want to mention, hallie, at this hospital here, the university of alabama at birmingham, this
hospital saw a sharp rise in covid cases just this weekend, they went from 35 covid positive patients on friday to now 48 and statewide, alabama has seen a more than 300% increase in hospitalizations since july 1st. hallie? >> gabe, that is a lot you just threw at us. thank you for that. dr. cass, i want to pull out some of the pieces that gabe just laid down specifically related to some of the vaccination mandates. we're hearing now and i think actually based on what the control room was telling me mayor bill de blasio is set to speak in a couple of minutes on this new apparent vaccine requirement for city employees according to wnbc. you also have this letter from the big medical groups gabe talked about, saying vaccines should be mandatory for health care workers. do you think at this point, are we on the precipice of a potential sea change as it comes to the requirement that people be vaccinated in certain settings and do you support that professionally?
>> yes, i do and i think that's exactly where we are. i would encourage the fda to approve the vaccine. 'another step in the right direction to make sure that we can actually mandate the vaccination and important settings including congregate health settings, workers that don't get to control whether or not the person around them is vaccinated or not but have to go in because they are essential, includes eventually probably teachers. 'really important that we make sure that when people go to the health care setting, when they go to school and environments that are important for their lives that they're safe and this letter from 57 organizations says it's our ethical obligation as health care workers to find the safest environment for our patients and our co-workers, and that includes being vaccinated. the mayor said something a little bit different last week, mandatory vaccination or weekly testing and that's a window of opportunity i think until the fda approves the vaccine fully but we're going to see that option as well going forward because it means we're getting the most important space which is to protect people from active
infections. >> let's be clear from people who may be thinking wait a second, the vaccine has been "approved." the fda gave emergency authorization, that is different and separate from full approval, which sounds like dr. cass you're saying in the eyes of some that may help get them over whatever remaining hurdle they have in getting the vaccine. shaq, we're talking about requirements for the vaccines. there's also now a look at mask mandates. we've been seeing this in a bit of pandemic whiplash, if you will. we thought we can put away our masks now that the vaccines are out. you have more local officials including where you are in st. louis saying no, no, bring them back. you have to wear them indoors. i'll tell you, shaq, as viewers of this show know, i was where you were in st. louis last week on assignment doing reporting in missouri for several days. there is some resistance that i heard even just conversationally outside of my professional setting to people being told that they needed to wear masks especially in other areas outside of st. louis. >> that's exactly right, hallie. you're already seeing resistance
to this mask mandate and when you look at the idea of why are they doing it now, we expect to hear from the city and county leaders in a couple of minutes as they explain this decision. if you look at the press release announcing this decision, the first few words are q as covid-19 hospitalizations rise and the delta variant spreads" starting today you see that indoor mask mandate return for any public indoor location, that's both for the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, bars and restaurants where people are actively eating and drinking will be excluded and then outdoors, that mask mandate is not required. it's rather strongly encouraged, but you still hear medical officials saying that they would like people to wear those masks especially in a crowded setting even outdoors, and you mentioned the opposition. you're seeing that opposition at many different levels. you have at the state level, the attorney general calling it insanity, saying that he will sue the county and the city as early as today. you have the councilmember on
the county council saying that a vote could come as soon as tomorrow that would terminate this mask mandate and you even have some local mayors saying that they're not planning to heavily enforce this. they say that this is a matter of individual responsibility and that mask mandates aren't practicable at this time. medical professionals say vaccination rates are ticking up a little bit, it's the masks that will help prevent a continued surge that you're seeing as the delta variant continues to hurt and overrun hospitals. hallie, i'll leave you with the stat ksdk our affiliate compared the levels of hospitalizations of people battling covid in icus and people on ventilators. the numbers you're seeing compared to when the mask mandate was initially proposed just about a year ago, you're seeing numbers that are more than double the level that they were a year ago when this mask mandate was initially enforced.
that's why you have local and city leaders saying that now is the time to bring that mandate back. >> shaq, thank you. dr. cass, as we talk about the delta variant and i'm almost out of time here but as we talk about developing news this morning, we have more breaking news coming from our white house team and our colleagues there led by mike memoli reporting a biden administration official is reporting that because of where we are today with the delta variant right now, existing foreign travel restrictions will stay in place. that is something i remember we heard from the press secretary last week saying there was some working groups looking at this. we understand people want to look forward and ahead to tourism, but right now, the decisions on reopening this official says continue to be guided by the science and public health, citing the delta variant particularly among people who are unvaccinated. dr. cass, right move by the biden administration here? >> so i think we need more information to know exactly what's in that decision, but most importantly we need to realize that movement spreads the virus so if we're moving
between countries that have different vaccination access and even different vaccines we may see different penetration for this delta variant. it's important that people do take personal responsibility and say if i'm going to travel between states, between counties or between countries, i understand where i'm going and where i'm coming from, and what that risk poses to those that i'm coming back to. >> dr. derek cass, shaq brewster, gabe gutierrez we appreciate you being with us on what is turning out to be a busy monday morning. we have a lot of other things to get, to including what we're just learning today about a trillion-dollar infrastructure deal, with democrats sending over a new counter offer as of this morning. we take you back live to the hill. plus, donald trump's inaugural chairman in court less than two hours from now. his first appearance on federal charges. how tom barrack's case could impact other investigations into trump world and the biggest star of u.s. swimming, katie ledecky taking on australia's so-called
news out of capitol hill this morning. let's talk about that trillion-dollar infrastructure bill, because today was supposed to be the day for the big reveal. listen to what the various parties involved are saying. one source tells our team democrats sent a counter offer to try to deal with all of republicans remaining concerns at once. the lead republican negotiator senator rob portman says they're about 90% of the way there. the lead democratic negotiator senator mark warner says he thinks a bill will be ready today. leigh ann caldwell asked the same question to a democratic aide, the response "lol." sahil kapur is on capitol hill.
publicly optimism, privately skepticism. >> reporter: hallie infrastructure week is continuing for another week on capitol hill and just last night, nbc news is told that democrats sent republicans in conjunction with the white house what they describe as a global offer aimed at resolving all the lingering disputes in this final infrastructure negotiation. let's put that up on the screen, some of the details in there, the single biggest one is the issue of money for public transit. democrats want more money than republicans are willing to give. there's also the question of what to do with broadband. water projects, unspent covid relief funds and labor provisions as it reelds to the davis-bacon act and the construction of these projects. a republican aide close to all of this last night mentioned that before the offer came in, i should add democrats need to be more flexible on the issue of transit or republicans will not sign off on the deal. now the question is how republicans will respond to this offer and we should note there is a lot riding on this deal,
including for two of the key negotiators, rob portman and kyrsten sinema. sinema is the strong supporter of the super majority requirement. this is her opportunity to show the senate can function with that rule and rob portman an ohio republican retiring, this is a chance for him to live up to this his reputation as a mod to bring his party along and deliver the votes. he's not got many more opportunities left and the clock is ticking. >> sahil kapur, appreciate that. former president donald trump encouraing more election audits like the controversial quote/unquote so-called in arizona. the effect it has in 2022 and less than 24 hours before the first committee hearing on the capitol insurrection. congressman adam schiff on
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a federal judge in brooklyn for the first time after being freed on a quarter of a billion, with a "b" dollars bail, one of the largest bail bonds in u.s. history. he's expected to plead not guilty to charges he illegally lobbied for the uae and lied to the fbi about it. justice correspondent pete williams is following the case. 'pretty quick court appearance we expect to see here. talk to us about that and importantly the "so what" aspect of this, the significance on where this case goes from here. >> he'll plead not guilty his lawyer made clear. will he be detained pending trial? the government won't object if there are a series of stringent conditions like the judge in los angeles did. this hearing is in brooklyn where the trial will be held. el he'll have the ankle monitoring. can't use his own private plane, he has to surrender his passport and probably be a curfew. the government said they're concerned about a flight risk
here, given he's a citizen of lebanon and has ties to lebanon, the uae and saudi arabia, three countries that don't have extradition treaties with the u.s. so they're concerned if he got out of the country, they would have a hard time getting him back. as to where it goes forward, there's no indication in here of president trump's knowledge about this, so the suggestion from the government here is that this is something that barrack did on his own, with the help of somebody that worked with him in his company, and a man, a businessman in the united arab emirates who remains at large. the only question here is trial date which will be certainly months from now, hallie. >> pete williams with an update. you and our viewer also watch what goes down at noon eastern on "msnbc reports." thank you. a quick live look at new york city mayor bill de blasio announcing that vaccine requirement for city employees there, with the politics of the pandemic front and center now. just in the last couple of minutes, actually as we hit that last commercial break we heard from the attorney general of
missouri over on fox news about what we shared with you at the top of our show here. st. louis putting in place a new indoor mask mandate. the state's ag is suing the city over that. according to eric schmitt told fox and new messages plural from former president trump and his allies on the covid vaccine. mr. trump out in phoenix this weekend, saying he recommends the vaccine but believes in personal freedoms, then linking the declining vax rate to distrust in president biden. >> what they've done is because they don't trust the president, people aren't doing it, and that's as simple as it can be. >> comes as former press secretary sarah huckabee sanders now running for governor of arkansas is out with an op-ed citing what she calls the trump vaccine saying it works and brings in lives. phil rucker for "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst and carol leonig,
friends of the show and coauthors of "i alone can fix it." the new number one book, guys, congratulations on that. phil and carol, let me start with you on the issue of the politics, the vaccination, what we heard from donald trump over the weekend. he's saying that people don't trust joe biden on the vaccine. you have to then add in the next breath if you watched the way this news has unfolded over the last year, that's because donald trump told them not to trust joe biden when it comes to the vaccine. you both sat down and talked with him in march about some of this. phil, carol, talk through it and because you're on separate cameras, phil, let me start with you and carol jump in. phil, talk through your analysis of how this plays out right now for republicans. >> well, it's really tricky, hallie, because it goes back even before the vaccine was developed to early in the pandemic, when president trump in office was trying to sow doubt about the legitimaty and
credibility of the government scientists, of dr. fauci, of the cdc, of the fda, of all of the arms of our government that were trying to keep people safe and end this pandemic, he was casting doubt with his supporters. fast forward to today, when the experts say it's essential that everybody get vaccinated and there are tens of millions of americans out there, many of them trump supporters, and red republican leaning states who are unwilling to take that vaccine. it's because of this doubt that president trump instilled with his supporters about the efficacy of the science. >> carol, at this point, it almost seems in the eyes of some trump critics perfunctory he mentions get the vaccine and pulls the punch, but personal freedoms, do what you want to do, also we don't trust president biden. is somebody telling him to deliver that message? what is your sense of what's happening behind the scenes? >> hallie, it's a great question. donald trump is of course advising himself. he is the expert on mastering
the mega phone and he did it very well as president and right now, what's so fascinating and you're zeroing right in on it is his inconsistency, before when he was president, the vaccine was his baby. he delivered it. it was his gift to mankind. he took credit for it, and he took credit for it in our interview when phil and i sat down with him in mar-a-lago in march. now as he sort of what i would consider his preliminary stumping for 2024 or at least stumping for some kind of political role, he is essentially raising doubts about the vaccine and being unclear, with the same unhelpful message in terms of public health that he deployed when he was president. he discouraged people -- about how the vaccine, the virus wasn't that serious, and now when people most need the
vaccinations, those who have not gotten, they are in the most danger of death from a variant which is incredibly transmissible, incredibly lethal, the president is unclear about whether or not people should get it. forgive me, the former president. >> thank you, girl. phil, on that topic, what, based on your reporting, and the many sources that you've talked to through the course of reporting of this book, more than 140 in all i believe, what based on your reporting do experts believe is the best kind of antidote to what you are hearing from mr. trump, as it relates to those in his base and those in his party who are still reluctant to get the vaccine? >> you know, hallie, our reporting with a lot of the officials who are leading the covid response over the last year for this book shows that the most effective messages can come not only from the very top, from trump, from biden, but from members of their communities, and that the key message to deliver is that this vaccine is
safe, and that it's necessary to keep you safe but also your family safe and your community members safe and that's what a lot of the government health experts have been trying to convey, but again, it's been very difficult when mixed with the off messages from trump and also from a lot of his allies and conservative media. >> carol, one of the other things that we've heard from former president trump over the last 72 hours or so, and this will surprise probably no one, he is continuing in his sort of consistency as it relates to the 2020 election to falsely call it stolen and rigged, to continue to perpetuate lies telling supporters we have to fight, if will you. two questions for both of you on this. first, he's encouraging more of these, and i do put them in air quotes, "audits" because it's not a real audit what's happening in arizona, and that's just a factual statement. he's encouraging more of those kinds of situations to happen in other places around the country, as we saw in arizona, those things take time. that's not a two-week process,
right? that has dragged on for months. what is the potential impact on 2022 for example if you have other states like texas, maybe, beginning efforts like what we've seen in arizona? >> you know, i'm sorry, hallie, i missed part of your -- the danger generally about these audits is that even though they take a lot of time, they still incredibly raise more doubts and the actual results of the audit are also in question. you may remember there were some interesting companies that were working on this, that didn't have any expertise in balloting or electioneering and it raises all doubts about the integrity of the election and yet it also when you get the final answer from whomever it is that's hired by that particular state, there's a question about whether or not we're really getting a real answer. it just sows more doubt just like various republican leaders are sowing doubts about vaccine, just like people are sowing
doubts about the election of november 2020. it's just sort of worrisome, because this is a moment in time when americans need to have some faith in government and it's at an all-time low. >> carol leonig, phil rucker, congratulations on the new book "a lone can fix it" out for sale now. appreciate it. >> thank you. back to breaking news from the white house. we told you at the top of the show on travel restrictions, we're going to tell you what else we are learning live coing up. plus on the eve of the first hearing of the house january 6th select committee, the new capitol police chief on what questions he still has about the riot, and committee member congressman adam schiff taking us inside those preps, there he is, he'll be live with us next.
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i want to get to nbc's mike memoli at the white house on this. what are they basing this on and what is the time line for keeping this in place? >> it's important to specify what we're talking about here, ongoing restrictions on non-u.s. citizens coming into the u.s. from places like the uk, from europe, from china, these are restrictions that have been in place since the earliest days of the pandemic last year, and what this announcement from the white house is telling us is that the u.s. is far less willing to welcome in foreign travelers into the u.s. than some of these foreign countries are willing to welcome u.s. citizens into their countries at the height of the tourism season. this white house has been lobbied fairly aggressively by the airline industry, by some of our foreign allies who want to allow their citizens to travel to the u.s. who want to bring tourists to this country. the u.s. in making this announcement an official telling me it's about the rise in cases because of the delta variant. official saying the u.s. remains committed to reopening international travel on a safe
and sustainable basis but at this point, given the increase we're seeing in the u.s. at this point they're not willing to do that. we've seen canada for instance welcoming in vaccinated u.s. travelers but the u.s. maintaining only essential travel to the north and south as well. >> mike memoli live at the white house, mem, thank you very much. we could find out as soon as today whether house speaker nancy pelosi will name more republicans to the house select committee on the january 6th attack. a committee that will hold its first hearing in less than 24 hours. you can watch that special coverage right here on "msnbc reports" after speaker pelosi aimed illinois republican adam kinzinger to the committee. he joins liz cheney az the only members of the gop on that panel, right now but again the speaker is hinting she may add more. with me is one of the democrats of that january 6th select committee, congressman adam schiff, a democrat from california. thank you for being back on the show. >> great to be with you. >> let me start there with the
potential for more members of the gop to be added. will she and should she add more republicans to your committee? what's your view? >> well, i'm leaving that decision to the speaker but the speaker did approve of three of mccarthy's appointees, and i think it would still be appropriate to seek them but mccarthy is refusing to do so, but i think frankly the composition of the select committee is shaping up very well. i think both liz cheney and adam kinzinger are serious about getting to the truth of january 6th. we all share the same mission we want to bring out the facts and what led to the deadly attack. we want to know what we needed to do to protect the country going forward so it's well composed already but if there are other republicans that are serious about the mission, we should be open to that possibility as well. >> would you be satisfied if the composition of the committee were the nine members that we have showed here on the screen here, and only those nine members, is that enough for you?
>> it is, and i think we can conduct a very serious investigation with the people the speaker already named but i'm open to the addition of others that would compliment our work and get good information out to the american people. that's not kevin mccarthy's mission. he's never wanted a commission to go forward. he doesn't want the committee to go forward. he's done i think everything possible to try to subvert the work and why? because donald trump doesn't want it to happen, but it's too important. this was a brutal assault. the first effort to interfere with a peaceful transfer of power in our history, and we need to make sure we do everything to prevent it from happening again. >> i have to ask you about the idea of bipartisanship on this commission. there are those who say needs to have an equal number of republicans as democrats and others who point out, why seat republicans who don't believe the insurrection was an insurrection in the first place.
ted cruz says it's a sham, pat toomey says it's politically advantageous for democrats to keep this issue front and center and kevin mccarthy who you referenced a moment ago is accusing speaker pelosi of structuring the committee to satisfy her political objectives what is your response? >> the republicans are talking out of both sides of their mouth. we offered a commission that was five democrats and five republicans, in which not a single subpoena could be issued unless at least one member of the other party agreed to it. they turned it down, and they turned it down in bad faith. they turned it down because they didn't want the investigation to go forward. so now they're complaining having turned down a commission of equal members, now there's a select committee that has been established by the speaker. the only common denominator, they don't want the truth to come out. they want to white wash history, suggest this was a normal tourist day. they don't want to expose the big light to further public
scrutiny but the reality is, if we don't reveal what happened on that day and the threat to our democracy, when people don't accept the results of a free and fair election, because they lose, because they lost, they don't try to do better the next time, they try to overturn the election, if we don't expose the danger that poses to our democracy, there's a real chance of this recurring. so the mission is that important and we're going to go forward no matter what kind of sniping we hear from the sidelines. >> congressman, with your permission, i'd like to do a faster pace almost lightning round if you will. there are some facts that i'd like to get laid out from you. first, i want to know who you want to hear from? will you call members of the former trump administration in front of this committee? >> chairman betty thompson made it clear we'll follow the evidence wherever and to whom it leads. once we're composed and getting close we'll be defining the
scope and the order and the priority of our witnesses and i don't want to get ahead of that process. >> do you expect to have to issue subpoenas? >> yes, i do. we want to make sure for example, when we request documents that we get all of them, that we don't have people withholding information because it's a voluntary request, so yes, i favor going to subpoenas and going through them early and with witnesses, i expect that some of them will be reluctant to self and need to be compelled. so that's certainly my expectation. >> two more for you. timetable, do you think you will wrap this up by the end of the year? are you even putting a timetable on this or could it stretch longer, given what we've seen in past select committees that have gone on in some instances for years? >> i think it would be very difficult to get all the work done that we need to by the end of the year. that would be just a matter of months. so i don't think that's very practical, but we do have a sense of urgency. we want to get this done as quickly as we can. part of it will depend on how much obstruction we run into, because that has been a big part
of the problem and the issue with delay in the past. >> we reported at the top of the show that liz cheney will be delivering an opening statement at tomorrow's hearing. was it your idea to have her do that, congressman? >> i certainly supported that. i thought it made sense, that we have our chair, and a republican representative give opening statements at the top, but these decisions are all ultimately made by chairman benny thompson, i think he's doing a tremendous job. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you for being with us and making a couple headlines with us this morning on the show. we appreciate your time and we will see you live on the air, although you won't be seeing us tomorrow for a special coverage of the january 6th select committee first hearing. thank you. coming up on the show -- >> thank you. -- the u.s. women's gymnastics team and surprising second place after the qualifiers. next up, we take you live to tokyo with what they need to do to take home the gold. new homeos who have become their parents... okay, everybody, let's do a ticket check.
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you may pay as little as $10 per prescription. ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. taking you to tokyo where themen's gymnastic's final is hoping to set a winning tone. simone biles and team usa, listen. they're doing well. not as well as some people thought. a rocky start in the qualifying round, but those scores don't count in the final. katie lecky not winning gold for the first time in her career. instead you have one of
australia's best swimmers taking it from her. leckey still walked away with the silver. steph gosk joining us from tokyo. >> there is still excitement here without the fans, particularly in swimming, too. the teams are there and it is loud. i want to talk a little about katie ledecky. some people were surprised by this result. she has another four events she is swimming. there is no chance she won't get at least one or two more golds, and this woman from australia has been on her heels for awhile and beat her in the past before. it's not that surprising that she won today. for people that only checked in
back in rio they might feel a little stunned. >> the reaction from her coach, from her coach was hilarious and one of the moments of the olympics so far. >> yeah, i mean for people who had not seen it, with can describe it for them. he basically went nuts. he was running back and forth, grabbing on to the railing, yelling, he has like long crazy long hair. he was screaming. if that is not excitement i don't know what is. he was probably more excited than she was. her reaction was more laid back. also that note on the gymnasts. simone biles is perfect all of
the time. people are getting a little greedy about her. she stepped off of the floor after a tumbling pass, but just listen to simone biles after that. she took a bunch of questions and she was as laid back and calm as she could possibly be. just saying we have stuff that we have to pull together, and we'll figure out how it goes on tuesday. so expect them to rebound from that pretty quickly. i also, you know, want to talk about some of the medals that the u.s. has gotten that just came out of nowhere basically. lee keiffer won a medal for a individual in fencing. she had a fantastic reaction to that. she was on "the today show" this morning and she had this to say about it. >> i still don't feel like it's real. i'm -- my happiness comes from
the joy of my coach and my family at this point. >> so, you know, those are the moments, right? and that was a terrific moment. >> we'll see you back here tomorrow for our tuesday update. coming up, president biden set to speak on the 31st anniversary of the americans with disabilities act. we're talking about disinformation for hire. what the psychiatry industry of voting info is and why it is booming. booming. s care of yourself. so why wait to screen for colon cancer? because when caught in early stages, it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive and detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers even in early stages. tell me more.
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booms. disinformation for hire. but instead of asking them to promote like beauty projects, gadgets, they ask them to push misinformation. and yet the clients that hire these firms are able to claim denyability. i want to bring in a journalist from the new york times. thank you for being on, max. >> thank you. >> so how is it this deniability possible. >> it's not too hard to guess. you can usually see who the work benefits. part of the service of the companies that they're offering is that especially if they're out of the country, it's very hard to tell who is doing it and it is just enough deniability. and they are able to get away with it.
>> how are we seeing this exploding in scale? one of the ways you use to describe what you're hearing from u.s. officials as well as national security analysts. >> as the work gets more lucrative and attractive in virtually every part of the world and more than half of the countries there are firms setting up fake news shops. for example, vaccine skepticism. it's hard to spot because it is supposed to bleed in with the rest of the social media background. it is showing up now, there was someone in brazil hired a pr firm to fill the internet with disinformation. >> max fisher. it is fascinating stuff. max, thank you for being with us. thank you to all of you for watching this hour.
as always highlights reporting on twitter and we will see you back here for special coverage of that second committee hearing. good monday morning, i'm jose diaz-byart. the count down is on for the long awaited first hearing of the house select committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. the bipartisan lineup is set. we learned that liz cheney will deliver one of the opening statements tomorrow. we're also keeping a close eye on the white house. president biden and vice president harris are set to make the anniversary of the american with disabilities act. a law that the president cosponsored when he was still in the senate.