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so we have an amazing story to show you from just outside of new york city. it's where police and bystanders together lifted a car off a baby. incredible baby. here's what led to it. the guy in the black car hitting that mother carrying her child as they crossed the street on friday. we stopped the video because it is disturbing to see. the car drove into the barbershop with the mother and baby on the hood of the car. two officers were near the scene and rushed to the scene with their body cams showing what happened next.
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>> grab the baby. >> come on. >> i got it. i got the baby. i got the baby. >> okay. we got it. >> frightening to watch. fortunately, nobody was killed. the baby has a skull fracture and burns. the mother has a broken leg and the krifr is facing drunk driving and vehicular assault charges. as we start a new hour, good day from msnbc headquarters here in new york. welcome to alex with it reports, we are at 2:00 p.m. eastern. we are beginning the hour with breaking news. house speaker nancy pelosi appointing adam kinzinger to serve on the select committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. now the ninth member of the committee and the second republican. speaker pelosi writing in a statement, he brings great patriotism to the committee's
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mission to find the facts and protect our democracy. the first hearing is two days from now on tuesday i speaker pelosi today also defending her decision to block two of minority leader kevin mccarthy's appointments as one of those picks pushes back. >> the two that i would not appoint, people who would jeopardize the integrity of the investigation. and there is no way i would tolerate their an particulars as we seek the truth. >> she claims the reason she booted me from the committee was because of antics on the part of jim jordan and i. in hindsight what i realize she means by in a now is that we were prepared to ask questions that no one else has asked and demand answers as to why the capitol was vulnerable to an attack on january 6th. at the white house a bumpy road ahead for the bipartisan infrastructure deal. law makers are hammering out the final details of what's in the bill in weekend. republicans are increasingly skeptical about how it will be
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paid for as top democrats push for an even larger package to be passed along with it. very important category for me is how this is all going to be paid for. >> this is completely out of hands. there are people who think this is monopoly money, but it is not. >> building a human infrastructure is really a part of building the physical infrastructure. that's why we will have something further to add. let's go right to capitol hill. what's the latest? >> speaker pelosi came out with the statement you read on the top there saying it is essential to democracy that the committee is bipartisan. adam kinzinger saying that though it is not a position he expected to be in when duty calls he will answer and self governance requires responsibility and accountability. my faith requires the same of me. it is necessary for order. and that's what i will do. now, democrats are already praising the announcement.
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we have moderates and progressives who are doing so. dean phillips of minnesota coming out saying he is glad that speaker pelosi appointed kinzinger and complainy, the two republicans on the committee. the reason mccarthy pulled all the picks is because they hold committee leadership positions, jim banks on a powerful committee on cyber security in the house. you heard him there. but speaker pelosi saying they might have played a role in the insurrection. therefore they are allies of former president trump. but when you peel the layers back on the politics we have to talk about the hearing itself. four capitol police officers are testifying tuesday morning. i was texting with one of them who still suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. he will be testifying on tuesday. they are nervous as they prepare their testimony before now a nine-person committee panel that's seven democrats and two republicans. >> thank you for that.
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well get more on the king zinger appointment in just a moment. first, to wilmington, bell wear. there are new developments on infrastructure talks this weekend. what can you tell us? >> those involved in the process say they are hoping to get some actual text, some language this bill, as early as tomorrow. now, we have been hearing for at least a week now that language of this bill was going to be coming any day. it does sound like they are very, very close. and once we get to that process, then members the senate say they can start moving forward with actually having a discussion about whether there are indeed still enough votes to pass this bipartisan deal. all this though is starting to bump against the august recess that the senate takes every year. we are about two weeks away from that. some members of the senate suggested that august recess is going to have to be delayed. there are a few things members senate want to hear less than
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working through their august recess but that is one of the things on the table because the democrats in the senate, those who have been working to get this bipartisan bill through, they realize that the clock is ticking. and once you get to september you get into a number of things like a budget, a debt ceiling, a defense spending bill that the senate is going to have to address before the end of the year. so also the risk that this infrastructure bill could get lost if they lose momentum that they have now. so, really, a lot hanging in the balance over the next couple weeks, months, potentially, on whether or not we are actually going to see this top priority for president biden's domestic agenda get through the senate. and then you have got to get to the house, which is whole other problem, but potentially moving in that direction, too n the next month. >> a lot to keep an eye on. thank you for helping us today. a number of issues to tackle. joining me now, philip bump, "washington post" national correspondent. good to see you. thank you for joining us.
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as we reported. let's look at tuesday. it is going to be the first public hearing for the house select committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. breaking news being that adam kinzinger, republican, will be on the panel. does that change anything, materially speaking, to the investigation. >> probably not. i think it is straightforward in terms of what the members of congress are going to be seeking out as they progress with this. what it does change is it undercuts the idea that's being propagated by the house minority leader kevin mccarthy that this is a slowlily partisan endeavor. unless you are writing kinzinger and complainy off as democrats it's clear this is an evident to try to bring together members of both parties to investigate. it is not bipartisan. it is proor anti-former president trump. cheney and kinzinger voted to impeach him following the
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insurrection so they are members this panel. but it is fascinating to see this being framed as a partisan issue when it is essentially about the former president. >> given that everything is political in washington, what is adam kin zanger's calculation in all of this? you have democrats hailing him as some sort of an ethical beacon. gop folks may see the opposite. what is his angle? >> i think -- look, i don't know representative kinzinger. i think it is natural for all of us to be somewhat cynical about it. i think it is the case particularly for liz cheney who we have heard from a lot and adam kinzinger that they really feel it was an affront to american democrat express and they want to be participants because they want to see where this failure took place and how it took place. i don't think it is safe to assume they are going to be rubber stamping whatever the house democrats move forward with. there may be house partisan contentions that emerge as the investigation moves forward.
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but i think they are wanting to find out what happened here and we are not afraid of standing up against donald trump in doing that which is a minority position on right. >> you suggested people in favor the january 6th capitol riot are more deeply embedded than you might think? what do you mean? will it matter what the committee's conclusion is in some minds? or will they never change? >> sort two of questions there. what it means is is that a quarter of republicans already expressed that they at least somewhat approve of the actions taken by the people who actually stormed the capitol that day. it is a shift towards more favorability since january. but you know, we have recent evidence to look at to indicate how this will shake out. when you looked at how the investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election was viewed in 2018 and 2019 as robert mueller, the special counsel, was conducting
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that probe, you saw at the very outset, even at the point that mueller was first appointeds republicans did not view it as something that was going to change their mind overall. it did not change during the investigation. the views of the utility of that probe stayed the same over the investigation even after the 501 report came out which had insights into what occurred. i think we will see that same pattern of democrats feel like yes, they are going to figure out that something very bad happened and republicans thinking this is a non-issue. we have seen some of that already. i think it is likely to continue. >> donald trump last night was in arizona repeating election lies. according to politico he also cast further doubt on the 2018 mid terms as well as the 2020 election. at one point trump falsely intimated he could return as president before the next
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presidential election. okay. he's already undermining 2022 and 2024. how do you interpret this, and that point that he could return to the presidency before the next election? what is that about? >> hom i think the question is whether he is delewding himself or he is simply trying to tell people what he thinks they might want to hear. >> both can be -- they can both be true, by the way. >> these true. they can sort of be blending together. >> what he believes and telling people what they want to hear blending together. >> there is a shake sparian standard that when you tell a lie you have to promulgate the same lie. he can't say in a 22022 mid terms are going to be clean elections because that implies something has changed. there was no real evidence of anything emerging regarding
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fraud in 2020. but with nothing changing, he can't imply that 2022 is going to be fine. and then he is implying he is going to take something to the supreme court and they are going to say you were robbed and you are the president again. there is no way that's going to happen. but donald trump touts his ideas. he likes that idea. >> crazy idea promoted by a pillow salesman. let's leave it there. thank you so much. now to new fears that large numbers of unvaccinated americans could lead to a new covid variant that is resistant to the vaccine. this warning comes as the delta variant spreads rapidly leading more cities and states to restore mask mandates and requiring some companies to require employees to get vaccinated. >> we were fortunate that even though the delta variant is
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highly transmissible for the most part vaccines work very well against it particularly in protecting you from severe disease leading to hospitalization. you let the virus circulate, you might get a variant that's even worse. let's show you a look at today's estimated daily averages compiled by the "new york times." more than 51,000 cases. more than 29,000 hospitals. and 267 deaths. here's a look at the big picture on vaccination chls nbc news and cdc data showing just over 45% of the u.s. population is vaccinated. also new today, the "wall street journal" reports a japanese firm has begun trials on a covid-19 pill. let's go outside the cdc in atlanta. welcome back, vaughn hillyard. what are officials saying about the prevalence of the break-through covid cases. how concerned should fully vax
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lated people be be these new cases. you think i have been jabbed, am i good to go? >> exactly. that's what we all thought when we all got our pricks here. the renaissance summer started out that way for most of us. we saw safe growl at madison square garden playing in front of a full house. but now we are seeing vaccinated people with positive cases, getting sick for up to a week. it is important to note while we are seeing a rise in cases of fully vaccinated individuals, that coincides with the statistics we expected if there was going to be another spike among the unvaccinated individuals. i want you to hear from a doctor, an infectious disease
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specialist. she outlines what those who are vully vaccinated should expect if they are covid positive because not even is going to guilty sick. listen. >> in the face the delta variants, each if you are vaccinated i would really advise that you continue wearing a mask indoors if you are around people who are not in your household bubble. the fully vaccinated person, i don't worry about getting sick myself. i worry that i could be infected, have a mild or asymptomatic case and transmit that infection onto other people into that we hear from the doctor is saying that we need to have some precaution here. we, the fully vaccinated could very well unknowingly be helping the spread of covid variants. but at the same time it is important to note the numbers as we hear of potentially loved ones that are fully vaccinated that come down with covid. and that is the numbers. l.a. county just this week released the best data we have
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to date on a big number. 4.8 million individuals in l.a. county who have been vaccinated, and just .0059% of them have been hospitalized. of that 4.8 million, just 30 deaths. in the last month 20% of new cases were among the fully vaccinated those numbers mean the vaccines are doing exactly what they set out to do which was protect vully vaccinated individuals from death or serious illness that leads to hospitalizations. >> that is the promise of the vax means. thank you so much, vaughn hillyard. the new move in the push to make sure the january 6 select committee stays bipartisan. - water?! - hey you! catch! mio. thank you! water tastes like, well...water. so we fixed it. mio. good morning, mr. sun.
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we are back with break news. republican congressman adam kinzinger is the newest member of the january 6th select committee speaker nancy mosty
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saying today quhoet he brings great patriotism to the committee's mission to find the facts and prok our democracy. bennie thompson praising the move on msnbc earlier. >> the congressman is a welcome addition to the committee. he demonstrated that he can express his opinion despite what some of his republican colleagues might want him not to express. so an independent voice to this select committee is always welcome. >> joining me now is illinois congressman mike quickly a democratic member of the house appropriations and intelligence committees. always good to see you my friend. let's get into this. what's your reaction to adam kinzinger being added to this committee? and do you want to see more republicans appointed? >> i think it is a great pick. want to see more republicans appointed but as you know, it is a small pool that could qualify. only as -- as miss cheney said only 35 voted for an independent
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commission. and so many have respoken the big lie and voted against measures that would change this, like a defense supplemental. i would like to see more republicans but i think it takes more republicans willing to choose country over party and truth over power. ed isly, there is just not that big a group. i did talk to mr. kinzinger briefly about this this week expressing my hope that if it was offered he would take it. honestly, i don't think he need i had in encouragement. i am very happy for him. another voice from illinois. >> yeah. do you think this group of nine is what you are going to stick with or will there be others? apparently there are others who raised their hand as being of interest, whether they are all that group of 35 or not. >> i think that -- i don't know what is happening behind the scenes, who is raising their hand, frankly, on the republican said, the more the merrier.
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i think they will have had to have shown willingness to saik take this seriously in their votes. but we have asked republicans to speak truth to power for about five years now that the trump campaign and the presidency and during its aftermath. those who do speak truth to power ought to be acknowledged and rewarded with efforts like this. >> in fact, two of those who nancy pelosi says don't speak truth to power would be jim jordan and banks, both of home she reputed. >> speaker pelosi didn't just ban me and jim jordan from serving on this committee, she also banned the basic questions we were asking, why was the capitol vulnerable on that day when three weeks before there were intelligence reports that the leadership of the capitol police were aware of?
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pelosi doesn't want me on that committee and also doesn't want us to ask those questions because it leads to a series of answers that don't support her decision. >> clearly that was not nancy pelosi. that was jim banks saying how he felt about it. do you think his being on the committee would jeopardize the investigation? >> he tipped off that he was going to sabotage this in previous remarks. i saw firsthand as a member of the intelligence committee and part of the first impeachment investigation, the russia investigation, mr. jordan sabotaged those investigations. and he would have been a fact witness. so mr. banks can't have it both ways. you know, he can't attack this commission, vote against its existence and then ask the very questions that an independent commission would have aebed. he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. it doesn't hold any water.
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we should be grateful he is nowhere near what this committee is going to try to do. >> kevin mccarthy put out a statement this last miles an hour. it says in part, speaker pelosi's rejection of the republican nominees to serve on the committee and self appointment of members who share her preconceived narrative will not yield a serious investigation. what do you think about that? more importantly, how do you think americans are perceiving this message? do you think americans will say we have republicans, we have democrats, there is a level of integrity in this committee's work? >> i think an independent commission would have made it easier to convince americans. all i can ask is look at people's words. democracy isn't a spectator sport. you have got pay attention to what is happening now because so much is at stake. democrats weren't attacked on january 6th. our democracy was. i happened to be in one of the rooms where it happened, with
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republicans, with people visiting the capitol. this is too important to play games with. an independent commission would have done that. and pelosi says i am going to take you at your word, what you said when this happened. >> i have one question about gun violence. i want to get to it. we have spoken, you said you were at the capitol on 1/6 with republicans and people visiting the capitol. what was the reaction of those republicans and those visitors? >> first, i was in -- i had been moved up into the gallery on january 6th when this was taking place. i was there with democrats and republicans. >> uh-huh. >> they were seeing saying, are these tourists? i don't think they were denying
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it took place. they were trying to figure out how to keep their families calm and how to keep their own session of safe. when we were waiting to go back and hidden away someplace, i think the same reaction was there. as bizarre as this is, you know, many of the folks who we are sequestering waiting to go back to vote weren't wearing their mask on the republican side. so it just -- working against the reality of the world right now isn't keeping anyone safe. >> last question w the republicans with whom you were waiting to get back to a sense of normalcy, was anybody considering this to be just a normal tourist day? was anybody saying this is no big deal, i don't know why we are kept away from the chamber? >> i think they might have been dissuaded by that when they heard the tear gas canisters breaking, the gunshots to my left where a police officer had to take the life of someone. that was happening at the time,
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they understood it. amnesia comes again when it is politically expedient. it is not keeping any of us safe. it is a direct assault after the fact on our democracy. want to get to gun violence. in fact, the justice department's plan to tackle it here in this country. attorney general merrick garland met with officials in chicago about launching gun trafficking strike forces in chicago, new york, los angeles, san francisco, and d.c. listen to some of the insight he gave. >> i am not here from washington to tell what you to do. i am here from washington to find out what we can do to help you in cooperation among all of these agencies i am seeing around me are the key for this to work. >> what do you think of in a approach? are you confident this strike force is going to be different from earlier federal efforts to curb gun violence in chicago and will it be more effective? >> i live in the gun wary city that he is talking about and
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he's from. you know trying to do the same thing to address this problem over and over again is just to paraphrase is insane as any other effort. i welcome this. i think we need a task force working at the federal, state, and local level to go after this network of guns streaming into our city making this violence too easy. i only want to couple it with the other things that i know the senators from illinois were talking about. addressing this for the first time whole heartedly as a public health issue, going at it at the grassroots level to address it that way. but, as you say, addressing it in the same old fashion as we have for years isn't going to change anything. >> i want to look at new polls out today. they reflect the president's approval numbers. they are under water when it comes to his handling of crime and gun violence. 39% of americans approve of his handling of crime. 37% approve of his handling of gun violence.
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what is the issue here? is this d.o.j. initiative? do you think this is what fixes the confidence in the president on this? or does more have to be done? >> i think it is involved with the coplexity of the issue. the slupgss are complex. addressing it, too. i don't think the president cares about fixing his approval ratings. i think he would rather solve the problem and where the approval ratings go, that's fine. i think he has taken a important first step. we have to address it in the house and senate and pass for the first time full gun legislation to help stem the violence for the first time. >> always good to see you. open invite to you, my friend. thank you. you probably look at the unvaccinated spread and breakthrough covid cases and wonder whether the world will be shutting down again any time soon in these prospects led to
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new today, tens of thousands of protesters, frustrated with covid restrictions filling the streets and clashing with police in several cities around the world in weekend. here in the u.s., several local governments are now mandating masks just as some businesses are requiring vaccinations. we have two reports for you. one from new york, one from paris. if officials are only now requiring health workers to be fully vaccinated it begs the question why aren't all of these folks already vaccinated? >> you know what? that's a question many new yorkers are asking. as we know this was once the epicenter. new yorkers know exactly how devastating this can be. simply put, not enough of this city and state are vaccinated. that is why this program is going into effect with the delta
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variant now the dominant strain. the numbers here n. new york four weeks ago the new cases hovered between 300 and 400. now cases are now at 1,000. so, this program that goes into effect is for city health care workers. if they don't want to provide a one-time proof of a vaccine, they at least must test weekly. i spoke with new yorkers about how they feel about this. listen here. >> i hope more industries will start requiring at least testing or a vaccine instead of just like texas and saying, no, there are no mandates at all. i think that's -- that kind of thinking is what got this whole country into the biggest part of the problem. >> i feel safer to take care of somebody if i'm vaccinated. >> i think if you choose not to get the vaccine that's perfectly fine. that's on you. but then you have to follower requirements accordingly. for instance a mask mandate or testing, whatever the case is. >> new york has stopped short of
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requiring vaccines for all of their city employees or essential workers. that could be the next step. but right now at least for the health care industry here in the city it is the most sleeping program for this place that was once the epicenter. this is more welcome here versus other states implementing bans on so-called vaccine task forces, texas, florida, missouri. those states are seeing a ravaging of the delta variant coming through. those four states alone account for 43% of the new cases. that is something new york is trying to avoid because it is such a dense city it is vulnerable to having another surge. this program starts in the city on august 2nd. >> 43% of the cases from four states in remarkable. let's go to europe in london where clashes broke out between
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frustrated residents and police. can you tell me what's going on there? this is not only in europe. we had problems in the south n australia. it has been extraordinary. >> the general sentiment in all of these places has been the same. in front, where we have steen biggest protests, about 160,000 people have take tony the streets across the city. they are protesting the fact of new covid restrictions and this vaccine campaign. what's really been the catalyst for these protests in france is that the government there wants to introduce new legislation next week that will make it mandatory for health workers and people in certainly other fields to get a vaccination. they also want to introduce a health pass, which means that people can't go to restaurants and bars and other venues unless they can prove that they have been double jabbed or they have a negative covid test. people that are opposed to this bill are saying that is
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essentially the government de facto forcing you to get a vaccine and if you don't your restrictions are going to be hampered. they say that's an assault on their liberties. but supporters of president macron say, look, these protests shouldn't detract from the fact that the vast majority of people in france support these restrictions and they think that they are necessary in order for life to return back to normal. supporters of may krone point out that, yes, 100, 150,000 people came out on saturday and came out the weekend before. you about while they were protesting on the streets of france, many other people across the country were going out and getting vaccinated. so this is a minority that are very much against it. and that's not the rule of thumb for the country. but it is kind of extraordinary in france, alex, that there is a lot of skepticism towards vaccination there. people are very hesitant because they are deeply suspicious of
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the first hearing by the january th select committee gets under way. since then, we have seen hundreds of headlines about the attack. these show the initial shock to what happened that day. my next guest says we have had ten years to recognize white supremacy for the violent threat it is. why has it taken america so long? joining me now, cynthia miller addressed the msnbc opinion columnist and professor of sociology at american university. also the author of "hate in the homeland" the new global far right. it is such an important issue here. let's take a moment to go and look at all the headlines from january 7th onward. the stunning nature of what happened really palpable in these words and images. why is having a congressional investigation so important in your mind? >> well, thank you for having me. i mean, this is really important for the legitimacy of any news that comes out of this.
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we need to have kind of regain the confidence of the american people in understanding what the source of the news is, you know, how are they learning about what happened, how are we unpacking what happened. there have been a lot of reports and a lot of kind of whitewashing attempts now to try to cover up and try to declare that what happened really wasn't all that bad. and i think it is really important. we are already in moment where people are not trusting the government enough. and we really need to establish clear, confident reporting on this and have people feel more confident about what they are hearing. >> yeah. you write in an op ed about the attacks in norway which happened ten years ago on july 2 nd. you wright it was wrongly treated like a fringe incident. why do you think this was a mistake? and how do you think it sort of revealed the direction rewent in as a society around this world. >> that was one of the worst trgeies we have had globally
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in terms of white supremacist terrorism. for a lot of years afterward governments and the media really treated it, described the attacker as mentally ill even though courts had ruled him sane. people, each today, will still describe him as nuts or crazy, just can't quite believe that someone would have done that. i mean it was mostly children and young adults who were killed in a really horrific fashion. and it was an opportunity unfortunately to kind of recognize a turning point in what later came to be, you know, very much more more clear. but it took about eight or nine years for governments, particularly the u.s., to really recognize what was happening. in the meantime, he, that particular attack inspired directly other attacks including the one in christchurch. and indirectly on line really he became kind of a martyr to the
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movement. a lot of damage was done in the mean time while we were writing that off -- we, i say counter-terrorism and experts were writing that off as a fringe incident. >> i think part of the reason that people thought he was crazy and labelled him as such is he had a 1,500-page manifesto that he wrote that was just out of this world. >> it was. >> you can see how people would have said this guy has completely lost his mind. >> it was. it is easier for people to think that, frankly. people don't want to believe that someone can have logical reason and move forward. but what he did was put forward an argument that islam was a threat to the west, that immigrants are a threat to the west, that expanded then into what later became called the great replacement conspiracy theory, you know, came -- it was part of what led to the great replacement conspiracy that inspired a lot of people. he had a methodical way of
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thinking about it that did lead to a lot of other extreme, horrific crimes. >> yeah. i want to focus on qanon, because that is certainly front and center these days. you have written about it this month. you say it is trying to infiltrate local schools and governments. how are qanon folks trying to do that? what's the best way to combat this? i mean let's get ahead of this if we can. >> exactly. this is the perfect moment not to make the same mistakes from the past and look at the threats that are amerging. the conspiracy theory types of movements have grown tremendously particularly during the pandemic conditions. one of the thing we are seeing now with conspiracy theorists like qanon is they are pursuing entryism trying to get candidates into elected office as sheriffs or local office, often on republican platforms. and we see that with school board elections. they tend to be a place where people will run for election and
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then try to garner conservative support and push it further to extreme pring ideas. so it's something to watch out for in local elections and to not fall for it as a local citizen. >> it is grood to speak with you. a thorough fact analysis dismantled trump's claims in arizona. that didn't matter to the former treasury president who spoke yesterday you about it did two one who wants to set trump straight. >> the election was the big lie. . s on refrigerators, microwaves, gas ranges and grills. and if you're looking for... [♪♪] if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose.
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before, sonny? could i ask you that question? sonny said they cheated. they cheated we're becoming like a third-world nation. >> donald trump once again repeating falsehoods on the election. adrian, where is he getting this stuff? i mean, what is your gut reaction when you hear this? >> the seditionists and insurrectionists who don't
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believe -- joe i don't know -- i know the president uses those words in rallies, but let's try not to use it here. you were the man who -- what should voters even know about why election claims about arizona are utterly false. i worked with a 4 to 1 majority of republican board of supervisors to revamp the entire system, which was bearing the weight of a lot of age. we improved our security system, the tabulation system. we improved the way we train or poll workers. we joined with the board of supervisors to have checks and balances in the system, not all the power in one elected office. so we entered into that agreement in a very cooperative way, myself and then chairman of
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the board, who was a republican. look, we worked together with folks across the aisle. and oh, by the way, the first audit was a statutory audit where the political parties themselves appointed the auditors, the folks who did the hand count. everybody that we did was above board, transparent, accountable. the only way to counter it is with lies. >> why do you think that donald trump has targeted arizona in this way? what is it about the voters in your state that makes them an attractive target for this kind of assault? >> well, arizona is a very free thinking place. we have a lot of folks who go their own way. that's a strength of this wonderful place. it's what really makes arizona very interesting for a lot of different reasons, but at the same time this is not new in arizona, either. i mean, we have seen accusations, false accusations in a lot of different places for
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a while. the reality is that, as we continue to improve our systems and protect the voters of arizona, and expand the way that people vote, the access they have, some people will be afraid of what's happen. it's the fear in the far right, the fear in some extremists, that fear is manifesting into this willingness to believe just about anything for comfort. it's too bad, because americans, particularly arizonaarizonaens, not a fearful bunch. most of what has been spouted out is just not true, and it's unfortunate. >> you used your twitter feed to stay away from the rally yesterday, but as you are campaigning around the state, you're talking to people who still choose to follow trump.
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do you discover they have genuine concerns? or are they more part of this trumpian fan base? >> there's genuine concerns. donald trump was the president of the united states for a kermit. >> a lot of the interactions i've had, once they listen to the fact, and the specifics, they tend to start wonder, grosz, is that version of reality really rae? of course, they weren't mailed in. arizona has 27 days of in-person early voting. because of the pandemic, we expanded access of that in-person voting. sure, we had tens of thousands
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of people who early voted and did not use an envelope. that's obvious, but the way they're spinning things is really detrimental to this remust be, to the health of our democracy. i don't really blame folks as much as i blame those messengers and the people who repeat the messages. >> adrian fontez, good to talk with you. we're going to follow your campaign. come see me again. thank you. the new obstacle for athletes on day two of the olympic games. athletes on day two of the olympic games. re nexium 24hr, anna could only imagine a comfortable night's sleep without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn?
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in the 400-meter individual. 90-plus degree temperatures have forced the rescheduling of outdoor events, and people are keeping a close eye on a typhoon that could make lamb tomorrow or tuesday, but could bring great waves in the surfing competent it 'tis. my friend yasmin vossoughian now continues our coverage. have a great sunday, everyone. good afternoon, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're following a lot of developments this afternoon. new action by nancy pelosi providing the spark for fireworks before the start of tuesday's first january 6th committee hearing. the speaker naming adam kinzinger to the commit year,
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sure to anger kevin mccarty and other members. condition critical across the united states. the troubling numbers and what exactly is being done. plus a story you have to see to believe. after an alleged drunk driver slams into a mother and child, nearby heroes leap into action. >> i got it. i got the baby. i got the baby. hold up. hold up. yeah. >> just harrowing video there. we have to begin with the newest edition to the january 6th commissionee hearing. nancy pelosi announcing that adam kinzinger has been appointed to serve on the economiee. she teased the move earlier on abc. >> more repubca


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