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leader kevin mccarthy pulled his picks. this morning speaker nancy pelosi says she plans to bring on a new gop reinforcement. >> will you be appointing more republicans to the committee like adam kinzinger? >> that would be my plan. >> so when will that be announced? >> perhaps after i speak to adam kinzinger, but i'm not about to announce it right this minimum. you can say that is the direction i could be going on. he and other republicans have expressed an interest to serve on the select committee. >> also some new reaction from one of the republicans appointed by mccarthy and vetoed by speaker pelosi. >> it's more clear than ever that nancy pelosi is not interested in an investigation. she's only interested in a narrative. she claimed the reason she booted me from the committee was because of antics on the part of
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jim jordan and i. in hindsight what i realized what she means by that now is that we were prepared to ask questions no one else has asked. >> and at the white house a bumpy road ahead for the bipartisan infrastructure deal. lawmakers are hammering out the final details of what is in the bill this weekend. republicans are increasingly skeptical about how it will be paid for as top democrats push for an even larger package to be passed along with it. >> a very important category for me is how all of this will get paid for. this is completely out of hand. there are people who think this is monopoly money, but it's not. >> building the human infrastructure is a part of building the physical infrastructure. that's why we will have something further to add. >> and some new polling this morning from abc shows as president biden marks six months in office, 55% of americans say they are pessimistic about the direction of this country, and
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that is down nearly 20 points since april. we're going to go beyond the headlines now with shannon pettypiece in wilmington, delaware. julie, let's start with you. big news pelosi is planning to add congressman kinzinger to the committee. what would that mean for this week's hearing? >> reporter: yes, good afternoon, alex. you heard speaker pelosi making some news saying i plan to, yes, that's the direction i'm going to. he's a republican congressman. if he does say yes, and we don't have any updates, but if he does say yes he'll be one of two republicans on the committee, of course, appointed by speaker pelosi. him and liz cheney, republicans who are huge critics of former president donald trump. we're getting reaction both on and off the committee to speaker pelosi's announcement this morning. take a listen. >> this january 6 riot impacted
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republicans and democrats, also. it impacted our democracy. and the individuals who did it, our scope of the committee, we're tasked with making sure we find all the facts and circumstances around it and make sure it doesn't happen again. >> i would favor a truly bipartisan commission. i think we should be candid about the fact that it is politically to the advantage of democrats to try to keep this issue in the forefront. >> reporter: and that's senator pat toomey. he was referencing the bipartisan commission initially proposed before the house select committee was even in existence. now this commission was blocked by senate republicans back in june, which is why we're proceeding with this house select committee. now on tuesday that committee will hold its first hearing featuring testimony from four capitol police officers who were here on january 6th. i texted with one of them overnight. he told me he's, quote, a full
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bag of emotions as he prepares his testimony. something else interesting we just learned there will be a time limit to deliver opening statements. that's something new and a change from other hearings. it really shows how interested the committee is in this testimony and how important it is to the committee's investigation. so tuesday will be, of course, an emotional day here on capitol hill and it's only the beginning of the work the committee has to do. alex? >> you're so right. that capitol police officer with whom you were texting will be catapulted right back six and a half months ago to that really deplorable day. a dangerous day for him. thank you very much. appreciate that. now to nbc's shanny pettypiece in wilmington, delaware, where the president is spending the weekend. there are mixed messages about the infrastructure bill. what are we hearing today? >> reporter: well, i think these mixed messages just speak to how much still needs to be sorted out on this.
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you heard earlier people raising questions about the costs. there is language. we still don't have actual language from this bipartisan bill and a whole question around the timing. here is a little bit of that back and forth messaging we heard earlier today. >> the president has said that he wants to have a bipartisan bill, and we all do, but that is not the limitation of the vision of the president. but, nonetheless, i hope that it will pass. i won't put it on the floor until we have the rest of the initiative. >> let me say that what she has said is counter to what president biden has committed to and what the senate is doing which is a two-track process. the infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reckless tax and spend extravaganza that she's talking about in terms of what reconciliation as she called it. >> reporter: so that kind of hits at this issue of whether or
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not this $500 billion infrastructure, this hard infrastructure roads and bridges type of spending package, whether that's going to be tied or linked in some way to the $3.5 trillion, much broader spending bill the president wants that includes child care and education spending as well as things on more traditional infrastructure. it's one of the many details to hammer out. the senate is supposed to take their august recess in about two weeks. there's talks of delaying that potentially. if they take that august recess, when they come back in september there's a lot of things that just have to get done before the end of the year like a budget for the government or a defense spending bill that are going to start consuming a lot of time. really what happens in the next two weeks and possibly over the next month will be really, really crucial to defining what president biden's domestic agenda is going to look like from pretty much now until the
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end of the presidency, at least the first term. >> thank you for that. >> julie, tsirkin, i understand you have an update. >> reporter: just as i was on air talking, house speaker pelosi officially announcing adam kinzinger will make the committee, making it nine members, two republicans and seven democrats. kinzinger is saying in part self-governance requires accountability and responsibility. my faith requires the same of me. truth is necessary for order. i'm a republican dedicated to conservative values. i swore an oath to defend and uphold the constitution. when duty calls, i will always answer. speaker pelosi just calling on him to serve. they also said they would want kinzinger on the committee. two republicans appointed by pelosi and no republicans from minority leader mccarthy.
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>> julie, thank you for that breaking news. perfect timing t. i'm going to ask what she thinks about this, congresswoman madeleine dean, democratic member of the house judiciary and financial services committees. so what do you think? adam kinzinger now joins the select committee investigating 1/6. is that a good move? >> i'm pleased that he is joining. i'm pleased the speaker has asked him to join. you heard in his staple and adam kinzinger's statement upholding our oath of office. of making sure we are faithful to the constitution, to find out to the american people what happened that led to an insurrection where americans attacked americans using flags, using trump flags. we need to get to the truth. the american people deserve that. those of us who were there and victim to it deserve that. those who lost their lives, their families deserve the truth. >> and do you think the fact
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there will be republicans and democrats investigating, it can truly be called a bipartisan commission? do you think that will then help the findings, whatever they may be, to be interpreted in a truthful way and not just perceived through the prism of politics, party politics? >> well, it is truly a bipartisan commission. it already was with the appointment of liz cheney. and now it continues to grow and increase in its bipartisanship. remember what happened here. we negotiated, they negotiated, frankly, an independent commission with equal numbers not politicians on the commission with equal subpoena power and then both mitch mcconnell and mr. mccarthy pulled the rug out from under those negotiations. it is they who have played politics. to the peril of the american people. so this is truly a bipartisan commission. the american people will see this for what it is and answer to the truth.
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it's puzzling to me to hear people like senator toomey say this is somehow political and that it is politically advantageous for democrats. an insurrection was not advantageous to anyone, not to the american people, not to our democracy. it might show some fear on the part of republicans for what will be revealed as they tethered themselves to a failed president and a set of very big lies. >> and with what to -- you bring up pat toomey, the senator, he was accusing potentially of this being used for political gain by democrats during the runup to the 2022 midterms. this would be a topic of focus for them as opposed to that which president biden has already accomplished. >> i find that a shameful suggestion. how in god's name is it every single senator and member of copping would not want to know exactly what happened on january 6th, what happened leading up to
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it, what happened on that day, who was responsible for what, and what happened after? it's so critically important. our democracy is at stake. our democracy is in peril. look what is also going on simultaneously around voting rights. i call upon every single senator and member of congress to say this is above the political fray this is about the protection of our democracy, recognizing the rule of law and the constitution that we are fortunate to serve under. >> i want to get to infrastructure in a moment, but i still have to ask whether or not you believe that kevin mccarthy, who has stated pulling the five he had appointed, he says republicans are going to do our own investigation now. what do you think would come of that when it could serve to
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diffuse, dilute what the select committee will discover? >> i think mr. mccarthy poorly pulled his hand when he pulled all five, when two disqualified themselves by being leaders of a clown car. mr. mccarthy by pulling all five and suggesting maybe he'll have his own commission, that will be political theater and antics. he should feel the responsibility as leader of his conference to participate, to help out, to say i will do everything in my power including testifying as to what i know for the bipartisan commission. it's irresponsible that he's continuing these antics. it's really revealing of him. what's he afraid that we will find out? >> in terms of those who could be called to testify in front of the free, your democratic colleague told me he believes donald trump should be called. let's listen to what he told me.
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oh, unfortunately, i'm sorry, we don't have the sound bite. basically what he said was he thinks it's obvious that donald trump should be called based on what happened on that day and the fact that he was standing at that rally and told people to head down to political. he says he could have it be done behind closed doors, not to make a spectacle. do you you think donald trump should be called? do you think if he were to be called he would end up testifying or find an excuse otherwise not to do so? and do you think that what he has to say would shed light on that terrible day? >> i think everyone, every possible fact witness should be called. now with mr. trump, think about it, but for his invitation to the rioters and january the 6th, he hosted them, he spoke to them, he riled them up. he said we have to fight like hell. he sent them down pennsylvania avenue saying i'll be right
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there alongside you. but for any of those actions we would not have had an insurrection. so of course he must be called. and they can work out how he will be called. however, i don't hold a lot of stock in what he will testify to if he actually gets himself under oath, which he's very reluctant to do. you've heard just this week the delusional rantings of what he was talking about, the january 6 was all about kisses and hugs and love. so i don't expect truth telling or clarity of thought. i expect more of the kind of lunacy, delusional set of statements that, sadly, this former president is capable of. but, of course he should be called as should anyone who has any facts including mr. mccarthy, including mr. mcconnell, that has any facts about what happened leading up to, during, and after the insurrection. >> yeah. quick, as promised, a question for you on the infrastructure
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bill. as you heard speaker nancy pelosi confirming if a bipartisan bill gets passed in the senate she will not put it up for a vote in the house until a larger reconciliation package is passed. do you support that? >> i support doing as much as we possibly can at this time of great need and also extraordinary opportunity. i was delighted and heartened to hear more than a week ago now, i guess, the $3.5 trillion agreement, handshake agreement that was reached in the senate budget committee. we need to marry that to infrastructure investment. we need to invest in the american people. so i'm going to support whatever is the greatest investment for the greatest number of people, and we can pay for it along the way. you saw that the senate decided that one should not be collecting revenue actually owed by american people. what are they afraid of there? we have the ability to collect what appears to be an
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uncollected estimated $600 billion or more every single year. that would go a long way to this infrastructure, capital and human. particularly interesting to me is the dollars around education. education for the youngest of us, pre-kindergarten, and at community colleges, technical training, hbcus. if we make that kind of generational investment and put that together with the capital investment, i will be very proud to say we are giving the next generation, my grandchildren and their children something far better than we left them with. >> well, thankfully you anticipated my question on how we would pay for it and gave us a substantive answer. madeleine dean, good to see you. >> great to be with you. >> thank you. in some places, and this is remember shocking, it feels like covid 2020 all over again. you will have to see the headlines to really appreciate
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now to some new concerns over the rapidly spreading delta variant of the covid-19 virus with several cities and states reinstating mask mandates. cases, hospitalizations, and worries reflected on today's front pages from states that had lower vaccination rates including arizona, alabama, louisiana, and florida. >> what i would really like to see is more and more of the leaders in those areas that are not vaccinated to get out and speak out and encourage people to get vaccinated. i was hearteneded to hear people like steve scalise come out and say we need to get vaccinated. even governor desantis in florida is saying the same thing. >> "the new york times" estimates the daily average number of cases is up slightly
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over 51,000 with more than 29,000 hospitalizations right now and 267 deaths. and here is a look at the big picture on vaccinations today. nbc news and cdc data show just over 45% of the population is vaccinated. but this latest spike in positive cases is having an impact on how americans perceive the government's management of the pandemic. a new poll shows 63% approve of president biden's handling of the virus, but that is down from 72% in march. also new today "the wall street journal" is reporting a japanese firm has begun human trials of a covid-19 pill. a once a day drug designed to neutralize the virus in less than a week. pfizer and merck began testing on their versions of a covid pill months ago. let's bring in dr. natalie azar, medical contributor, to talk all things covid. let's get to the public health perspective. thanks for joining me. does it make sense to keep some
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level of mask mandates? >> oh, yes. i'm sorry. i thought you had a follow-up to that. yes, alex, absolutely it does. i know it's hard for people to get their brains around this concept that two things can be true at the same time, that you can be vaccinated and very, very well protected against infection for yourself, but you would still consider putting a mask on and when you go into an indoor place. and it really just boils down to numbers. if you're in an environment or in a community where there's a lot of transmission and low vaccination rates and you go indoors, there is a really, really high likelihood that the preponderance of people you're intermingling with, the grocery store or another public place, those people will be unvaccinated. it's not 100%. one piece of information we still really don't have precise data on is about the delta variant if you are exposed but you're vaccinated we still don't
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know if you can transmit. it's an extra layer of protection. i don't think that thinking about it as moving backwards is the way to think about it. quite frankly, it's something we may be needing to do over and over again until we reach herd immunity. >> vaccinations are the ultimate protection, right? so these mandates that are out there, some employers now requiring workers to get the shot. you even have health care workers pushing back. first of all, do you think the shot should be mandatory particularly in that area? and do you understand why there is question even among the health care community? >> well, to answer the second part, that, of course, is very distressing to all of us who are health care providers that when we look at the science and the evidence it appears quite obvious the benefit far outweighs the risk and i do think as a health care worker there is certainly a different
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set of priorities in terms of doing no harm and protecting our patients. look, there is definitely -- i'm not a legal analyst, but there is definitely precedence in terms of vaccine mandates. i think it's very important that people understand the difference between legally requiring someone, compelling someone to be vaccinated, physically restraining -- that's not what a mandate is. a mandate is essentially saying there is a condition on your employment or a condition to be allowed to engage in society and certain behaviors based on your vaccination status. for a lot of people that's why we've seen a significant percentage of people who were on the fence who said, look, i want to re-engage in life and to do so i need to be vaccinated but, again, the circumstances and the difference is, let's say health care hospital versus a retail establishment.
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those are different instances and, again, the legal precedent there does account for those subtle differences in the work place that we're talking about. >> the delta variant is raising new questions about how effective the vaccines are. there is a wild discrepancy out there. first, more than 90% of israel's population was vaccinated since january yet they are now reporting pfizer is about 40% effective at preventing symptomatic infection. head to the uk, that compares to 88% there in the uk and folks were perhaps more recently vaccinated. they didn't have the january benchmark there. how do you interpret this? why such a huge discrepancy? >> well, alex, there's been -- with the studies coming out of israel, there's been -- i don't think that the data has been fully vetted and really
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dissected the way we would like to be able to say was there something about the population that was different, or is there some explanation for this other than to say the vaccines are not, and never were, 100% protective against symptoatic infection. the efficacy was against really very symptomatic disease and hospitalization and death. so people do need to remember that when we're quoting these numbers that if you are vaccinated you may still become mildly symptomatic from covid-19, but you will not end up in the hospital. and the truth is we don't know the true number here, the prevalence of these breakthrough infections with mild or asymptomatic disease because the cdc is not tracking that here.
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i can't necessarily give you a precise answer that can account for the differences in the uk and the israeli data. what i can tell you here in the u.s. the vast majority, we know this, 97% or more of the people hospitalized in this country with covid-19 are either unvaccinated or they are immunocompromised. two or three days ago when the cdc's advisory committee was meeting a lot of it was about boosters not for the general population, everybody, but for people who are immunocompromised or over the age of 65 where we do expect a less than adequate response to the vaccine. >> i hope everybody out there listening was taking notes because given the precarious nature and that which we really don't have substantive detail and facts yet on, you made a great argument for all of it. i want to thank you, dr. natalie azar, for your expertise. will reality ever sink in?
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the big lie, they call it. you know what's the big lie? the opposite is the big lie, the election was the big lie. if i lost this election i could handle it pretty easily. when they steal it from you and rig it, that's not easy, and we have to fight. we have no choice. >> donald trump's big lie coming full circle the rally in arizona, one of the swing states that cost him the election. hailing the audit taking place in maricopa county while baseless conspiracies as a crowd
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cheered. founder of the national voter protection fund. susan del percio, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst and former congressman from florida and msnbc political contributor. hi, guys, good to see you. what is more concerning to you, is it trump's delusion over the election or is it the crowd of people who are cheering on these lies? >> i think i'm actually growing in concern with both. we have to remember him and his entire family of businesses are in a tremendous amount of legal trouble from a civil and criminal perspective as well as any number of financial penalties if not jail time, so he has to keep the grift going. you have to keep it going with appearances and with statements or else he'll just fade into oblivion. you have to make the speeches no matter how nonsensical to raise money for the trump pac and this
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on going grift that he has going on. i'm not too concerned with the growing crowd. they are looking for something to do. this is the person who animated them the last five years, gave their lives some purpose. when the rock star comes to town, you pay to go see him and you might see him for an entire region. these are people from all over the southwest who have come to see their false idol. it's just more sad to me. >> i'm glad to hear your perspective. for me it's my inability to put logic as to why this continues happening. here is a reason we keep talking about the former president and his big lie. it is because there is a large sector of people like the ones we saw last night who wholeheartedly believe everything he says.
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let's listen to what some of the people told our msnbc team. >> i'm ready to hear the president speak. i'm hoping to have some sort of hope that he's going to be back for us whether it be in the mid-term elections or the 2024. >> he's not a politician and he is a successful businessman. you can't take that away from him. for someone to put up with the hell he has and still be fighting you have to admire the man. >> the dumps happening in the middle of the night, we've seen signature counts not matching up. i'm 100% sure he won the 2020 election. no way joe biden got 80 million votes. >> nope. so, dave, when you hear that, what's your reaction? >> you use the word delusional and it would be easy to dismiss him as delusional and dismiss
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the crowds. here is where i think the greater concern is. by keeping up this narrative very publicly donald trump is creating the expectation among state legislators across the country and he's creating some political pressure among state legislatures to change the way elections might be counted and how disputes are resolved. the greatest danger donald trump emerges as the nominee in 2024 and wins. shy of that, this activity by republican legislatures and governors is occurring because donald trump is demanding it among the following these governors and republican legislators need for their own political careers. >> susan, timing wise it comes in a few days, two days, the select committee begins hearings on the insurrection. we are expected to hear from police officers. they will relive the trauma of that day.
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do you think donald trump is unfazed? he may not have rioted but the crowd of people who did got the idea to do it from somewhere. >> you did a great interview yesterday with "i alone can fix it" authors phil rucker and carol leonnig and how he just watched this unfold on january 6th. he didn't care about mike pence. he loved this. he loved what he saw. he saw his people fighting for him. his reaction will be fake news. people loved and all this other great stuff. i don't think he'll get the oxygen he wants on this particular issue. one, thankfully networks like this and others don't carry all his speeches and even on more conservative media they don't
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want to show the hearings because they don't want to talk about this anymore. they're in denial. they would rather show it didn't happen as an insurrection at our capitol. donald trump and what he thinks and will use as a rally cry i don't think will be as much as stop the steal lies because that works better for his narrative. it's also about him and only him. >> point well taken. let's listen to what the president had to say about the covid vaccine. >> how about the vaccine? i came up with the vaccine. they said it would take three to five years, going to save the world. i recommend you take it but i also believe in your free donees 100%. just so you understand -- >> for someone who wants the credit, it doesn't really sound like a ringing endorsement, right? david, if trump were to turn around tomorrow and give a full-throated endorsement of the vaccine, put out some psas, how
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many minds do you think would change? >> i don't know because it may be too late, unfortunately. what you've seen is a political issue, even politicians who try to say, look, i recommend you take it. donald trump said i recommend you take it. ron desantis said i recommend you take it. there's always a caveat. that caveat is the reflection of the fact it hurts republicans to be vocal about getting the vaccine. this inability to embrace the vaccine, the rally around the flag moment to take the vaccine not just for yourself but for those around you, for your fellow american. at this point i think for you and your family you have to look out for yourself and encourage your fellow americans to do the same. >> the vaccine misinformation
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out there has been widely prevalent among republicans on capitol hill. some have started to change their tune but there are still congress members like marjorie taylor greene ramping up the misinformation. >> have you yourself gotten vaccinated? >> your first question is a violation of my hippa rights. with hipaa rights we don't have to reveal our medical records. >> okay. a reporter asking a lawmaker their vaccination status is in fact not a hipaa violation. greene does not understand or is openly lying about the apublicability of a federal law because she doesn't want to say whether or not she's vaccinated. what do you make of that, don? >> you're spot on. i was reading the notes and i'm like how do you respond to her
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response to hipaa saying she literally doesn't know what she's talking about. here is the thing, all of these republicans who fancy themselves the next face of the party or the current face of the party who travel in these elite republican circles have all been vaccinated. i don't know if the magas and the red hats at the rallies understand that. tucker carlson has been vaccinated. they continue to try to play to this worst element of society. like david said there's always a caveat. when you have somebody like margaret taylor greene talk about hipaa or other laws, they do not know what they're talking about. they don't understand these matters. >> point well taken. we're out of time, susan. ladies first next time. don, susan, david, good to see you all. so it is a new fire alarm out west, and it has nothing to do
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there. dangerous smoke has reached the east coast. scott cohn is in paradise, california, which is getting hit pretty closely as it did a couple years ago. what are experts saying about this health risk, though? >> reporter: paradise was the site of such destruction and death. there is a new wildfire burning about 15 miles to the northeast of here. you can see the haze in the air. that is what the experts are looking at. they are looking at the risk of respiratory disease and covid as a result of this smoke permeating the west. they look at some 36,000 patients, the regional medical center in reno, nevada. a great deal of what they call pm 2.5, particulate matter, two
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and a half microns or less. they looked at the test positivity rate and an 18% is a direct result of all of that haze. they're not sure exactly why. >> one of the mechanisms could be the virus particles are adhering to the particles in the air so that when we inveil that, we are transporting the virus into our lungs. that would cause more infections. there are other possibilities as well. it could be that pm 2.5 is damaging our lungs and that makes us more at risk of infection and could be people because of wildfires outdoors are spending more time indoors with other people.
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>> reporter: a couple differences between the time of that study and now, of course now we have a vaccine, but we also have the delta variant which is believed to be much more contagious. the advice, get vaccinated. number two, regardless you want to limit your exposure to haze and smoke like this. alex? >> that's a time to wear a mask for sure. scott cohn, thank you so much. day two at the olympics for the u.s. a comeback story and a major upset next. water? why?! ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved! water tastes like, water. so we fixed it. mio.
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basketball. a big victory for the usa swimming. they got gold and silver medals in the individual medley. he's no longer going to be able to compete in the games. ten new covid cases today. she's a two time olympic gold medalist. really an honor to have you here. what do you think it's like for athletes to get to this level and compete without cheering fans? what's that like? >> thanks for having me. it's very difficult. it's a tough time to have there
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situation. everybody has been dealing the brings some difficulty in something they have to deal with as they move forward in the games. >> here is another thing. that is the challenge of practicing and competing with the threat of covid. what kind of challenges do you think that creates? >> it's really hard. you know, you're seeing all these cases pop up with athletes that are probably assuming they were doing just fine in their preparation and getting a surprise that they are in fact, positive. it's incredibly difficulty for athletes in the olympic village. for women's soccer, it's the satellite sport. i think they are able to crack down and keep the covid scare
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away from that team for the most part. it's something that no one wants to deal with but unfortunately, every one has to right now. >> it's a big field. you are pretty spread out. that's another good thing. let me ask you about what's new this year and that is the olympic committee allowing athletes to engage in some forms of protest. how important do you think it is to the athletes to have that ability to do it and do they risk alienating some fans when they do? >> it's definitely a situation that an athlete has to think about. i like fact that the olympic committee has allowed some form of protest. it's been a very, very trying last 18 months in particular especially for the united states team with the covid vaccine issues and things with equality and also with policing and so it's nice that the athlete dos have the ability to show who they are and what they are
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believing in on this big stage that they have but also to be mindful. to be respectful on that and continue to focus on the task at hand which is playing their sport to the best of their abilities. >> i know you're rooting for team usa. they were back with the huge win over new zealand yesterday. were you surprised they lost to sweden in the opening match. how did that happen? come on. these are gold medal girls. i was like what. >> i know. it was a very shocking result and i actually got up at 4:30 in the morning to watch that game and it was a real distressing game from the first minute. sweden came in ready to play. that was the up with thing when i played that usa had was the mentality to come in and get the job done from the first minute and i think the team was lacking that a little bit. it wasn't that business of a surprise to me that sweden came in with the great game plan but what was surprising was the 3-0
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and the complete game that played but they did rebound. you're right. 6-1 against new zealand. i think what usa has done is pus the los on the shelf and moving on. >> my point, the fact i'm watching and i go what, how did they lose. what that says is the pressure of expectations. how much does that play spoo the approach and the way they play that game? >> expectations for women's soccer, in particular, are extremely high. we are expected to win every world cup and every olympic games. you bring that pressure along with you and you're aware of it at all times because that's the expectation. sometimes you're going to have your stumbles and your failures in a particular game but the good news in my opinion is it happened early on and now we've got a correction and we can move
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on from that. o lick pim games it's very difficult to win a world championship and olympic gold medal in any sport particularly in you're the top dog expected to win. there's a lot of different variables on that. i think team usa has righted their ship and hopefully they can carry that new mentality and they're skills forward. >> absolutely. it's great. thank you for a gold medal interview. great to talk with you. thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. it's a clash of rights and responsibility amid the pandemic. protesters lash out at new covid policies. ♪ hold my pouch. ♪ trust us, us kids are ready to take things into our own hands. don't think so? hold my pouch. limu emu... and doug. so then i said to him, you oughta customize your car insurance with liberty mutual, so you only pay for what you need.
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