Skip to main content

tv   The 11th Hour With Brian Williams  MSNBC  July 19, 2021 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT

8:00 pm
williams is next. good evening once again. day 181 of the biden administration now facing mounting fears that this drsh with a big assist from the anti-vax movement in our country is pushing our country in exactly the wrong direction. in fact, it was anxiety about yet another wave of the illness that hammered the stock market today. the dow closed down over 700 points. the worst one-day decline thus far this year. at one point the market was off nearly 900. the biggest concern today was the potential the virus has to once again derail the recovery. >> anything that asks the uncertainty about the pace of reopening and the case of growth can unmoore the stock market. >> the rapid rise in daily days
8:01 pm
has prompted the american association of pediatrics to issue new guidance ahead of the coming school year. the doctors advise all students older than 2 years and auld school staff should wear face masks at school. on the vaccine front, it has stalled. about half a million shots being given out every day. that is down from more than 3.3 million at our peak. while the cdc describes the current surge as a pandemic of the unvaccinated, there is growing concern about vaccinated people getting the virus nonetheless. the so-called breakthrough cases. the florida congressman vern buchanan revealed he's tested positive after being fully vaccinated. and a woman on the u.s. gymnastics team tested positive just days before the tokyo olympics. her coach said she was fascinated two months ago. dr. fauci says even if someone
8:02 pm
is infected after a vaccination, they are still much more likely to avoid serious illness. >> the vaccine still protects you against infection but not completely. you are very highly protected against severe disease if you're vaccinated. if you're unvaccinated, then you have a reasonable chance of getting into trouble. in another closely watched story, five house republicans have been appointed to serve on the select committee investigating the 1/6 riot and insurrection. minority leader kevin mccarthy has selected these members from his republican caucus and they are indiana's jim banks, rodney davis from illinois, jim jordan of ohio, kelly armstrong from north dakota, troy nehls from texas. banks, jordan and nehls all voted to overturn the election
8:03 pm
results. >> you got a mix there the entire conference. >> house speaker pelosi has still yet to sign to these appointments before the committee's first hearing july 27th. today federal judge sentenced the first felony defendant in the 1/6 insurrection. he got eight months in prison. prosecutors have wanted floridaman paul hodgekins sentenced to 18 months. he is clearly seen carrying the 2020 flag. he pleaded guilty last month to a single count of obstructing an official proceeding. also chuck schumer is moving forward with a wednesday vote to start debate at least on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. the measure is still being written as we speak. the senate democrats not giving up on a federal voting rights bill. the rules committee led by
8:04 pm
senator amy klobuchar, democrat of minnesota, is holding the u.s. senate's first field hearings in two decades to try to bring voting rights issues to the public's attention. first stop, atlanta, georgia, where one witness described the obstacles to voting in georgia. >> this past year, i had to go to extraordinary lengths to accomplish the simple but consequential task of casting my ballot. i along with thousands of georgians, had to wait for hours in order to cast my vote. in fact, i had to go to the polls twice in order to vote. >> with that, let's bring in our lead-off guests. phillip rucker, pulitzer prize winner for the "washington post," his highly anticipated new book written with his colleague called, i alone can fix it. donald trump's catastrophic final year.
8:05 pm
generating a lot of headlines, even though it doesn't come out until tomorrow. phil's co-author will join us a bit later for a full conversation about it. also with us, amy stoddard, washington journalist, for real clear politics and former u.s. attorney joyce vance. she also happens to be one of the co-hosts of the podcast sisters-in-law. good evening and welcome to you all. and phillip, i would like to begin with you and your beat. this new virus surge. let's take political consequences, the disappointment aspect of it out of the conversation and dwell on public health. i am guessing that biden west wing is about to address this with some urgency. >> certainly. and we've seen the biden administration and the health officials throughout the government speak with increasing urgency in recent weeks about
8:06 pm
what the cdc is calling the pandemic of the unvaccinated. the fact that so many americans, tens of millions of americans, many of them in red, republican leaning states won't be vaccinated in part because of what is spreading on sxoem conservative media. this is a growing urgent concern for leaders in washington. they feel the infection rates and further complications from california to the east coast could be continuing to rise as people resist the vaccines. so i think we'll see in the coming days, the president as well as others in the administration step forward with increasing pleas to get people vaccinated. to get the shots and try to push past this as the delta variant becomes a really severe threat to the country. >> let's talk politics. i brought something for you. here is ar inch fleischer on fox
8:07 pm
news tonight. >> fdr jr., licensed to go on as maive trillion-dollar spending spree and he's not. that was not what the 2020 election was about. he's out of sync with where the american people are. >> so a.b., tomorrow marks six months since the inauguration of joe biden and one is tempted to ask, hearing that, how the effort to arrive at an attack line against biden is faring these days on the republican side. >> well, brian, we've watched both parties get concerned about deficits when they're not in power. but president trump was the first republican leader to completely abandon. the party gave up on it watching the voterers who supported
8:08 pm
donald trump give up on it. that's what the biden administration is betting on. that a lot of spending on infrastructure and other programs, vaccination distribution, the child tax credit, all the things they've done in their first three to six months are not only popular in their party, in the democratic party, but with some of the republicans in the trump coalition as well. so you will see, especially among those, not ari fleischer but several senators positioning themselves to run for president in 2024 if donald trump does not. a lot of talk about piling debt and spending by the democrats and the social. i programs. no matter what passes, in the reconciliation of the bills, you can count on it. >> stig brand, it turn out to be a florida man who receives the first felony sentence for his
8:09 pm
role in the violent attempt to overturn the election result on 1/6. what do you make. eight-month sentence and what might it mean for all the others that are pending? >> the eight-month sentence was clearly a disappointment to prosecutors. they had asked the court for an 18-month sentence and argued pretty vigorously about the consequences of january 6th. the judge distinguished this defendant from defendants that we'll see down the road saying he didn't want to burden this particular individual with the conduct of those who may come to him for sentencing later on. whether the judge is correct or not there, i think the sentence really extends wrong message. it is clear that prosecutors are intent on these future cases of people who committed property damage or acts of violence and will watch the sentences amp up pretty dramatically.
8:10 pm
for instance, simply for someone involved in property damage, the lowest sentence would be in the range of 41 to 51 months. so i think people who were disappointed today need to suspend judge a little locker and let prosecutors do their job. >> i don't need to tell you that democrats on the left would love to see people like schumer and biden play rough for a change. especially right now with. that in mind, what is going on in the u.s. senate? what do we mean when we say that as early as this week, they may begin debate on infrastructure? >> the bipartisan deal for an infrastructure package that we thought was in the cards a few weeks back appears to be in real serious jeopardy at this hour. there is some republican waivering on how to pay for it and in part because of pressure
8:11 pm
from outside conservative groups that are against any additional spending increases. what this has done is force a decision point for chuk schumer and president biden to move forward with the vote to begin consideration and debate on this bill. that's what schumer has said today he plans to do later this week. and it speaks to the growing impatience, both at the white house among biden's advisers, but also with democrats in the senate and progressive liberal leaders who are allied with the biden administration and with the key senators. they feel like enough is enough. it is time to call this vote. to call the republicans' bluff to get to the 60-vote margin and push this vote forward. we'll see in the next couple days whether the votes are really there when schumer begins the debate on this infrastructure bill. a lot of people on the left feel like they've waited far too long
8:12 pm
for a bipartisan deal and it is time on bulldoze through and get the package passed. >> a.b., also on the hill. let's talk about this 1/6 committee and the questions our viewers would be right for wanting answered. number one, does pelosi have straight up veto power over the republican selections? i'm asking this because we learned mccarthy's choice to so many people, the unserious name stood out on the list was jim jordan. what happens there? and is it conceivable jim jordan could end up on a witness list? >> well, we don't know what information they have that would bring him to the witness list that is within the realm of the possible. we don't know. jim jordan was always going to be on kevin mccarthy's list, and nancy pelosi knew that all along. this is a mandate from president trump.
8:13 pm
kevin mccarthy doesn't even have to consult with the former president to know that he had to put three 1/6 truth orders this panel and then throw in some, quote, credible people that would stand up, that would be credible. would be suitable to the majority of people in this country who thought that the insurrection was as severe as it was, and are not in the maga umbrella. so he was always going to pick one or two people who voted to certify the election. he was always going to pick jim jordan and others to be a combat fighter from minute one, trying to discredit this investigation and this committee and to fight for donald trump. and the first thing he said when he was named to the committee, he said basically, this entire things to make up, you know, lies about donald trump. so this is exactly what we
8:14 pm
expected. i don't think nancy pelosi, knowing this is exactly what mccarthy would do, is going to veto the choices. i think she will just proceed. she has liz cheney, we are very credible republican, and i think she will let them drive a clown card on the side. it was never going to be serious. it was always going to be an effort to project donald trump in the narrative that it was another love fest. >> joyce vance from a clown car on the side, take us to the intersection of law and public health. i'm asking because of the excerpted portion i have from the "washington post" today. he writes this in park. governors have used their public health powers to mandate mask wearing and social distancing to fight covid-19. they ought to now take the next logical step and mandate vaccinations for the use of
8:15 pm
indoor spaces outside the home. well, first of all, let's say it together. that will go over well. secondly, joyce, to your life's work, talk about the potential thickett of legal issues that opens up. >> it is quite a thicket. i think it will make a.b.'s clown car look like it was in the amateur leagues. of course we know any effort by the biden administration to impose a mandate on a national level will be met with endless litigation. in reality, it is a tough objective. governors control. so of this terrain and there's little that the administration can do if governors in red states don't choose to reimpose mask mandates, don't choose to require vaccination and take other logical steps to combat delta. that's what happens when we live in a world where public health has become fully politicized. what the administration could do, and max has a very
8:16 pm
interesting point. they could look at federal sort of operations like travel, to enter a plane or a federal building. that would certainly be something that would help to bring the virus under control. there would be litigation. there is a little uncertainty right now, brian, because the vaccines are still approved on an emergency basis. that puts the administration on a little bit less secure of a footing once that approval rate is stepped up to permanent approval. then for instance, we'll likely see more urgency and requirements that people who are members of the military and federal employees have mandated vaccination like people do for so many other illness that's are, whether this administration can overcome what is certain to be political hurdles with better messaging than they've proven
8:17 pm
capable of today. >> indeed, it is already out there on display. our starting line for a new week. our great thanks for starting us off. coming up, critics are praising phil rucker's new book out tomorrow. and apparently detachment from reality is a running theme where the last president is concerned. we'll ask the authors about the many revelations within. and later, unvaccinated americans once again filling hospital beds, battling covid, fighting to breathe. one of our leading physicians standing by to take our questions. all of it as the "the 11th hour" is just getting underby this monday night of a new week. nigk from puerto rico when he was 17. with ancestry, being able to put the pieces of the puzzle together...'s amazing. it's honestly amazing.
8:18 pm
♪ ♪ we made usaa insurance for veterans like martin. when a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa (vo) when you are shopping for a new vehicle, how do you know which brand you can trust? usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. with subaru, you get kelley blue book's most trusted brand winner, seven years in a row. in fact, subaru has won most trusted brand for more consecutive years than any other brand. no wonder kelley blue book also picked subaru as their best overall brand. once again. it's easy to love a brand you can trust. it's easy to love a subaru. ♪ ♪ oh, son of a poppyseed! ah, there's no place like panera. enjoy the cool, refreshing strawberry poppyseed salad. panera. order on the app today.
8:19 pm
do you struggle to fall asleep and stay asleep? qunol sleep formula combines 5 key nutrients that can help you fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer, and wake up refreshed. the brand i trust is qunol.
8:20 pm
8:21 pm
nobody knows the system better than me. which is why i alone can fix it. >> those words, now the title. revealing tell-all book documenting the final year of the administration of donald trump. two months after biden was sworn into office, pulitzer prize winning reporters phillip rucker and krarl leonnig sat down with donald trump in mar-a-lago. among several alarming admissions in the new book, i alone can fix it, they write this and we quote. trump regrets his response to
8:22 pm
protests last summer in minneapolis, portland, seattle and other cities. quote, i think if i had to do it over again, i would have brought in the military immediately, he said. remaining with us, phillip rucker. joining our conversation, another friend of ours, carol leonnig. the pair have written yet another book, a new one on the trump presidency. i alone can fix it. donald j. trump's catastrophic final year which comes out tomorrow wherever fine books are sold. good evening to you both. and congratulations for the smattering of advance reviews that i read this afternoon. and tonight, tell us more about the last thing we raised here. trump's regret over not calling out the military following the murder of george floyd, during the blm protests. and a subset of that question. who would tell him if he wanted
8:23 pm
the second marines or the 81st to take positions in seattle? >> wow, brian, that's a two-part question that is important. let me deal with the first part first. you know because you've covered this administration and chronicled it every night at 11:00, that the president, the former president, rarely regrets anything. in fact, in our interview we learned that he really doesn't regret anything about 2020 except for one thing. though it was one of the most catastrophic years we've seen in our history, his big regret speak didn't unleash active duty military troops on the people who were exercising their first amendment rights to protest the death of george floyd and the chronic, systemic racist system in which many black men and
8:24 pm
women have been killed at the hands of police. that was his big sadness. now, for the second part of your question, what we learned, and what was so chilling to us was that many insiders in the trump administration felt very strongly that they had to basically band together to keep donald trump from sicking active duty troops on americans in all sorts of cities. seattle, portland, washington, d.c., philadelphia, new york. it felt so frequent a demand and a request from the president that bill barr told aides he was tired of going to the white house because he knew what the conversation was going to be. let's send troops in. the president wanted to burnish his image and look like a tough law and order guy because he wanted to win re-election. and all those people inside the administration saw right through
8:25 pm
it. and they worked to stop him. >> of course, they made up for a lot of that in lafayette park alone. phil, as i read it, your scheduled interview at mar-a-lago was for an hour. it went for two and a half, or there abouts. for people who will never get that distinct pleasure of sitting down for that long, what is it like? b, what shocked you the most during that conversation? >> well, brian, it was an entirely bizarre season for carol and me. we came to the interview and trump wanted to hold it in what is effectively the lobby at mar-a-lago at the dinner hour so scores of his dinner guests were parading past us as we were trying on interview him about the serious substantive matters of his presidency. he is so fixated on the 2020 election. he kept reverting back again and again and again to the election and to the conspiracy that's we all know are not true.
8:26 pm
the false hoods that he won arizona, the falsehoods that there was fraud in fulton county, georgia. in trump's mind it is so real. and he would tell it to us with real animated cadence. he thought people would finally figure it out. he kept saying, i'm trying to get the word out here about the fraud that simply doesn't exist. what you had at mar-a-lago, when we were there at the end of march, is a king of republican politics sort of in his briggadoon that doesn't stack up to the facts. and by the way, he's also filled with grievance. he brought up people like bill barr, mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, he even instroked late senator john mccain. all people that he made fun of, he blamed them for things that had gone wrong and he also blamed mike pence. his loyal vice president for not
8:27 pm
doing what trump considered to be the courageous thing on january 6th by trying to overturn the results. the former president still bitter about that. >> carol, back to the subject of the military, and donald trump, and had this been a full on third world style coup, it is plausible that he would have wanted to call out the military to enforce whatever his election goals were. tell us what leaders at the pentagon were willing to do in the event of such an order. >> there were so many things that very senior military officers and officials were in a near panic about, and feared that donald trump would do. things they felt he would do to basically maintain his grasp on power. that was a feeling that had been growing for months.
8:28 pm
did it start on june 1 for general mark milley. he believed the president would show no remorse no, regret, not be worried about breaking any laws to deploy the military for his own political gain. what the joined chiefs all agreed was that they would start planning for how to block donald trump's worst impulses. ones in which he might try to create chaos and fear, again, to keep power, or indeed engage in a coup. what they wanted to do was basically stop him from using the military. and they decide that had maybe they would have to resign one by one. in essence, a reverse saturday night massacre to stop the president and they were talking about this privately as something that could really happen. and they were quite glad when inauguration day came, that they had not had to use that secret
8:29 pm
plot. >> our guests to our audience, both pulitzer prize recipients and it strikes me donald trump has now come one title of the last two books about him. he, of a very stable genius and now i alone can fix it. we'll get to our next line of questioning with both of our guests coming up after this break. we'll talk about why a top official was worried about sharing good news on the vaccine front with the president of the united states last summer. he pr united states last summer.
8:30 pm
a lot of people think dealing with copd is a walk in the park. if i have something to help me breathe better, everything will be fun and nice. but i still have bad days... flare-ups, (cough cough) which can permanently damage my lungs. my lungs need protection against flare-ups. so it's time to get real. because in the real world... our lungs deserve the real protection of breztri. breztri gives you better breathing... symptom improvement, and flare-up protection. it's the first and only copd medicine proven to reduce flare-ups by 52%. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition... or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling... problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. for real protection, ask your doctor about breztri.
8:31 pm
8:32 pm
i d d so my y quesonons eouout hicacase.y y son, for real protection, cacalledhehe bars s fi i d d soit was the best call eouout hii could've made. for real protection, call the barnes firm and find out what your case all could be worth.uld've made. for real protection, ♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪ and find out what your case all when a truck hit my car,ade. for real protection, ♪the insurance companyed, wasn't fair. eight million ♪ i didid't t kn whahatmy c caswa, so i called the barnes firm. i'm rich barnes. it's hard for people to k how much their accident case is worth.h barnes. t ouour juryry aorneneys hehelpou
8:33 pm
welcome back. two of the three people on the screen right now are pulitzer prize recipients who have indeed just authored their second book on our past president. our guests tonight. and carol, this one is for you. this is about a scene in the book where the secretary of defense esper learns from the general in charge of operation warp speed that the vaccines are coming along. and here's how you guys write it. esper was initial will delighted when perna told him he was authorizing contracts to produce two promising vaccines. but the secretary's eboolence then turned to concern. if the president learned they had millions of doses produced, would he or a white house adviser start demand theg administer them to the public before the vaccine had been fully vetted by the fda?
8:34 pm
this dove tails with the reporting in this book that the president's concern over the coming pandemic was more about polling than public health. and it is cheer the people around him were concerned about that. >> you know, everything with donald trump, especially so in 2020 is seen through lens of how it benefits him. in the year 2020, many of those insiders got too close a shocking look at just what that meant. a callousness. a burnishing to make sure the polls were good. how am i doing in the numbers? those were his priorities. and in this part that you just described, it was stunning to learn the secretary of defense upon finding that there is a light at the end of the tunnel,
8:35 pm
upon hearing that they are looking at vaccines with an 80% effectiveness rating, his reaction is first happiness and then panic. what if donald trump finds out? and what will he do? what will the white house do? what will trump's closest aides want? what will the president want? they all know what the president wants. he wants a vaccine before the election because he wants to have delivered on that promise and he wants to get reelected. but actually, esper is worried that the president may order people to get the vaccine before it is properly vetted, before it is safe and before the trials are completed. he starts wonder figure they should try to hide this light under a bushel basket. >> talk about the call that mike pence made on 1/6 over to the pentagon which according to the body of reporting only day is one call more than donald trump
8:36 pm
placed on the subject. >> that's exactly right. this was a moment of national crisis. the capitol was under siege by vlt rioters and you would expect the president of the united states, the commander in chief, to be active. to be calling the pentagon. to be trying to get control of the situation. our behind the scenes reporting in this book shows that president trump spent those hours in front of a television set, watching what was unfolding at the capitol and essentially paralyzed from doing his duty as the commander in chief. instead, you had vice president pence who was in a hideaway, effectively. he was under threat physically at the capitol. his family was in danger. people were channelling hang mike pence all around him and it was vice president pence who was calling the pentagon, who was saying get these troops here now. get these buildings under secure. get this building cleared out of these rioters. and importantly, he refused to be evacuated from the capitol
8:37 pm
because the vice president thought it was essential for the american people that he remain in the capitol to do his job, to certify election whenever the senate and the house could reconvene. it is a chilling bit of reporting and it speaks to how little president trump did in that moment. effectively melted away. >> carol, let me ask you a final question about process. there are so many people floating around washington who want a little dose, who want a chance to get the stink of having worked for trump off their otherwise stellar resumes. and some of them are vaunted people. esper, barr, milley, pence, e-ivanka and jared. so an offer comes along and how do you guard against becoming their resume burnishing tool in the scope of a massive project you two are involved in. >> i'm really glad you asked that question. and i'm really glad you used the
8:38 pm
word guard. that's exactly how phil and i felt in these moments, in these interviews. sometimes we sat with people for seven hours at a time. and we were on guard for people wanting to make everything a little more gossamer about how they handled the situation. make themselves look a little more brave or perhaps a little more resolute. in fact, i think we all know what the standards for serious journalists are. i'll repeat them here. we don't have anything in our book we couldn't corroborate independently. every time it was possible, we asked our sources for additional people who knew this information. or we sought out those as well. we asked our sources for calendar entries and text messages. we're pretty pushy and nosey. and they showed them to us to help again make sure that what they were alleging is something that we can take to the bank. if we could not find that kind of information, if we could not
8:39 pm
find trust in what they were alleging, we didn't publish it. i want to say there's another reverse element to this. people who want to be associated with donald trump for their political benefit. they want to tap into the political base of donald trump. some of those people were running from us as well. because they had raised serious questions about donald trump's ability to lead. about the insanity of some of the things that happened in the final month of the presidency. and in fact, confided to people that they were quite afraid of what donald trump would do. and they've tried to deny those things to us and we've corroborated them. but they've tried to avoid being critical. president. because it is important for them to be alined with him. >> two friends of our broadcast.
8:40 pm
our thanks for coming on on the eve of your book's release to our audience. the book is out tomorrow. it is "i alone can fix it. donald trump's catastrophic final year." best luck to both of you. thank you for coming on. and coming up, a top doctor on what we all need to know about these breakthrough infections we're hearing about. where the fully vaccinated are getting the virus nonetheless. n. it's a beautiful reflection of everything you've been through. that's why dove renews your skin's ceramides and strengthens it against dryness for softer, smoother skin you can lovingly embrace. renew the love for your skin with dove body wash.
8:41 pm
new customers get our best deals on all smartphones. renew tthat's right.our skin but what if i'm already a customer? oh, no problem. hey, cam...? ah, same deal! yeah, it's kind of our thing. huh, that's a great deal... what if i'm new to at&t? cam, can you...? hey...but what about for existing customers? same deal (breathless) it's the same deal is he ok? it's not complicated. with at&t, everyone can ace back to school with our best deals on every smartphone - like the samsung galaxy s21 5g for free. omega-3 from fish oil is an important nutrient for heart health. qunol's ultra purified omega-3, is sourced only from wild caught ocean fish, not farm raised and comes in an easy to swallow mini pill. the brand i trust is qunol. so with your home & auto bundle, you'll save money and get round-the-clock protection.
8:42 pm
-sounds great. -sure does. shouldn't something, you know, wacky be happening right now? we thought people could use a break. we've all been through a lot this year. -that makes sense. -yeah. so... ♪♪ now's not a good time 3/5ths of nsync. are you sure? you have us booked all day. -read the room, guys. -yeah. right? ♪ ♪ ♪ common love isn't for us ♪ -yeah. ♪ we created something phenomenal ♪ ♪ don't you agree? ♪ ♪ don't you agree? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed.
8:43 pm
indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit and get started today. . if i ask any patient that is up in a bed right now, they will tell me they wish they had gotten the vaccine. they have told me personally they wish they had gotten it. that they should have gotten it and they did not. >> covid cases now on the rise in every state in our union. 97% of those hospitalized are unvaccinated. on the misinformation surrounding the vaccine, our
8:44 pm
next guest writes this. quote. the monster is much bigger and formidable than facebook or social media. if the biden administration is serious about countering anti-vaccine disinformation, it must be willing to take on the empire and launch a counter offensive. it is important to have back with us again tonight dr. peter hotez. a vaccine scientist who has been hard at work developing a low cost vaccine for global distribution. he also happens to serve as co-director for vaccination at texas children's and baylor college of medicine. just take for our audience who may not be familiar with you, take a brief moment at the top and tell good people watching how and why it is in your life, you have become so familiar, let's say, with the anti-vax crowd? >> yeah. i wish it were for good reasons, brian. thanks for asking me. i'm a vaccine scientist and
8:45 pm
pediatrician and devoted my life the developing vaccines, mostly for poverty-related diseases. i took coronavirus vaccines about ten years ago but i'm also the parent of four adult kids including rach heel has oughtism and intellectual disabilities. a few years ago i wrote a book called vaccines did not cause rachel's autism, debunking that there is a link that vaccines cause autism. showing there is no link with what we know of the genetics of autism. unfortunately, that may be the number one thing. one called never og villain. that means the original gangster villain. so you have the original gangster villain on tonight, brian. >> we're proud of it. this must be an incredible experience. i'm guessing there is a set
8:46 pm
anti-vax play book which you've lived long enough to see employed in the autism sphere. and now you've lived long enough to see it in your other life's work. and that is suppressing active disease like this. >> yeah. that's right. so what happened with the anti-vaccine movement is, i would like to think maybe in part because i helped diffuse a little bit the links between vaccines and autism. and i think to reenergize about six, seven years ago, to reenergize, they politicized, they linked themselves to political extremism on the far right. initial through republican tea party organization's political action committee started forming in texas and oklahoma, where i am. and now you see it play out nightly. the conservative news outlets and if you listened to the cpac conference, the horror show that unfolded there from very conservative members of congress
8:47 pm
discrediting vaccines and claiming it is nothing morning a political instrument of control. and this is why we're in this terrible, terrible situation where we have whole regions of the country. not just outbreak areas but entire regions of the south central u.s. and south eastern united states where people are not getting vaccinated out of defiance. and we're seeing this massive surge. all predicted and predictable when you have that combination of delta and low vaccination rates. it is heart breaking because all of this could have been prevented. >> speaking of heart breaking, let's talk about these breakthrough cases. for everyone watching tonight, people who may have been under the sfumings they're vaccinated, they are okay, period, end of sentence. what is the truth about these break through cases? >> well, it's not too far from that, actually. so no vaccine is perfect. the original lineage of the vaccines that pfizer, moderna
8:48 pm
vaccine, 95%, almost as good as the j&j vaccine. we saw out of israel, the numbers were not as robust. 60 to 64% in israel to around 80% in scotland and in england. so that gave people pause for concern. in terms of serious infection, it is just as robust. what you're not seeing are hospitalizations and deaths for those who have been vaccinated. but you are seeing people who are either asymptomatic or low grade symptoms and that's something we'll have to continue to watch for. particularly for those who are immunocompromised and may not respond to the vaccine as well. >> by now, all the viewers know what exercise and common sense means in this and where are the best environments to slip on a mask. it is not as we've learned the end of the world. doctor, please agree to come back on our broadcast whenever
8:49 pm
you're on with my friend nicole wallace at 4:00 eastern. i stop what i'm doing and i never miss the conversation. dr. peter hotez has been our guest tonight. our thanks for taking our questions on this. coming up this evening, mr. bezos will be out of the office tomorrow. for that matter, he'll be out of the gravitational pull of planet earth. that is, if all goes well, about nine hours from now. now. (man) i've made progress with my mental health. so when i started having unintentional body movements called tardive dyskinesia... ... i ignored them. but when the movements in my hands and feet started throwing me off at work... i finally had to say, 'it's not ok.' it was time to talk to my doctor about austedo. she said that austedo helps reduce td movements in adults...
8:50 pm
...while i continue with most of my mental health medications. (vo) austedo can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington's disease. pay close attention to and call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden changes in mood, behaviors, feelings, or have suicidal thoughts. common side effects include inflammation of the nose and throat, insomnia and sleepiness. don't take austedo if you have liver problems, are taking reserpine, tetrabenazine, or valbenazine. austedo may cause irregular or fast heartbeat, restlessness, movements mimicking parkinson's disease, fever, stiff muscles, problems thinking, and sweating. (man) talk to your doctor about austedo... it's time to treat td. td is not ok. visit keeping your oyster business growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit and get started today. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health.
8:51 pm
versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein.
8:52 pm
just as millions of americans wake up tomorrow morning, we should be hearing about the fate of jeff bezos, his brother and two other notable passengers as the richest man in the world launches the foursome into sub orbital space. it is amazon prime on steroids. their ride will be on blue origin, the space tourism company that bezos founded to lift those who can afford it into the wild blue yonder.
8:53 pm
our report from the launch site in west texas tonight from nbc news correspondent tom costello. >> reporter: in remote van horn, texas, the anticipation is building. the launch pad, 45 miles out in the desert, set for jeff bezos' liftoff. this morning, bezos and his three fellow passengers were giddy with excitement. >> people say they go into space, they come back changed. i can't wait to see what it will do to me. >> while blue origin has flown 15 unmanned test flights, this will be the first to carry passengers. bezos will take seat number six. the exact recommend lick a of the capsule that will carry all four 63 miles high for two minutes of weightlessness and six massive windows. >> as you're ascending, it feels like the earth is rolling away. >> like richard brandson's virgin galactic, paying
8:54 pm
passengers are already signing up. eventually they plan to send six passengers into space from this launch pad in the west texas desert. unlike a nasa rocket, there are no professional astronauts or pilots on board. it is all controlled from the ground. blue origin insists it is set with back-ups, set for 9:00 a.m. eastern. van horn, texas. coming up, it was a tough choice. they have narrowed it down to just four people. the anti-vax all-star team when we come back. all-star team whe we come back i booked our hotel on kayak. it's flexible if we need to cancel. cancel. i haven't left the house in a year. nothing will stop me from vacation. no canceling. flexible cancellation. kayak. search one and done.
8:55 pm
(brad) how does apartments-dot-com help more renters get into new homes than any other site? flexible cancellation. it's really as simple as taking the ol' power nap. and wakey, wakey... apartments-dot-com. the most popular place to find a place. (vo) when you are shopping for a new vehicle, how do you know which brand you can trust? with subaru, you get kelley blue book's most trusted brand winner, seven years in a row. in fact, subaru has won most trusted brand for more consecutive years than any other brand. no wonder kelley blue book also picked subaru as their best overall brand. once again. it's easy to love a brand you can trust. it's easy to love a subaru.
8:56 pm
i've got moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer. ♪ ♪ i feel free to bare my skin yeah, that's all me. ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand nothing on my skin, ♪ ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ achieve clearer skin with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. of those, nearly 9 out of 10 sustained it through 1 year. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ i see nothing in a different way it's my moment ♪
8:57 pm
♪ so i just gotta say... ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ now is the time to ask your dermatologist about skyrizi. if you didn't get a vaccination, that's your choice. >> 99% of the people dying from covid are unvaccinated.
8:58 pm
>> that's their choice. >> they don't want to die. the administration and the government is saying, we need the mask mandate to protect the unvaccinated. >> that's not their job. it is not their job to protect anybody. >> last thing before we go, see what they did there? an interesting mix of candor and denialism this morning on fox news. the prime time anchors consider their insidious anti-vax campaign always wrapped in freedom and a smile. say nothing in the rise in death toll. and while it was a tough choice, admittedly, the republican accountability project is out with their all-star team of sorts. of anti-vaxxers. the super heroes of the effort. >> in the studios of fox news and the offices of maga, there
8:59 pm
are assembled four pro covid republicans dedicated to anti-vaccine propaganda. tucker carlson. >> if vaccines work, why are vaccinated people still banned from living normal lives? maybe it doesn't work. >> and now talking about going door to door to be able to take vaccines to the people. so the mechanisms to build to be able to execute that. go door to door to take your guns. to take your bible. >> marjorie taylor green. >> jk's little possie that will show up at your door and they intimidate you to take the vaccine. tell them to get the hell off your lawn. >> and lauren. >> we're here to tell government, don't come knocking on my door. you leave us alone. >> their mission, to spread misinformation about vaccines, to keep covid spreading. meet covid friends.
9:00 pm
>> with a tip of the hat to robert, the republican accountability project to take us off the air on this monday night as we begin a new week with our thanks for being here with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. happy to have you here. a lot going on tonight. first of all you should know that right after me tonight, after this show at 10:00 p.m. eastern, msnbc's special live hour with the democrats who walked out of the texas legislature. slature. who left the state of texas under threat from the texas governor that they would all be arrested on their return. by leaving the texas state capital, by living the state beyond the reach of texas law enforcement, these democrats are preventing a quorum in state legislature back home. this means that very practical terms, they are preventing texas repu


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on