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think. >> how many of the people you work with know that you, in fact, use marijuana? >> i would say a handful. >> and now more. >> and now more. >> reporter: cynthia mcfadden, nbc news, golden, colorado. >> cynthia's report just one part of the series "red, white, and green" taking an in-depth look at marijuana in the u.s. as calls grow to legalize it nationwide. you can catch the series across all platforms and on msnbc. a new hour and a new video showing a clash between trump supporters and protesters in california. a sign of the former president's remaining grip on the party. and in tennessee, a fight against vaccines like we have never seen. state republicans going as far as mailing a muzzle to a state official before ousting her and now blocking schools from addressing covid vaccines with students. plus it's jeff bezos' turn to head to space. we take you to mission control where final preps are being made for tuesday's takeoff. this is "american voices."
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hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez, today marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz of florida proved so toxic, they're running out of places to hold political rallies. new reporting from the daily beast highlights their desperate attempt to find venues that welcome their america first rhetoric. just last night they were forced to hold a rally on a street corner in riverside, california, after three venues backed out. so this maga-touting pair forced to fund-race on a street corner. apparently four seasons total landscaing made famous by rudy giuliani not available. but whether on street or onstage, people still showed up to see the two in california, including some of the trump's wildest supporters who ultimately clashed with counterprotesters as this newly obtained video shows. you can say they are fringe, or
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maybe it is time to take republicans at their word, that loyalty to trump and trumpism remains who they are. here's how senator lindsey graham puts it. >> here's what i can tell you about president trump. he's heartbroken as to what's going on in our country and the world at large. he thinks he can fix it, and he told me he has unfinished business. so i will be shocked if he doesn't run for president in 2024. this is the party of donald trump. if you think otherwise, you're in for a rude awakening. >> the party of donald trump. yes, lindsey graham, who seemed to write off his friendship with trump after the insurrection, now says trump is the one to, quote, fix our country. no care for all the destruction trump's caused. he's doubling down on defining the party by loyalty trump comes as we learn even more about january 6th. three new bombshell books set for release this summer detail trump's dangerous temperament in the final chapter of his presidency. michael bender, the author of the new book "frankly we did win
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this election: the inside story of how trump lost" described those final months today here on msnbc. >> we all know the story of chaos, of four years in the trump presidency. you don't have to be a "wall street journal" reporter working over there every day to know that. but what was striking in the reporting of this book was how many people very close to trump in the white house and at the campaign had become concerned he was dangerous for the country. i mean, alex, he asked his own teammates in the white house to have americans shot. >> right. >> he wanted people protesting civil rights abuses to be shot, to have their skulls cracked. his own secretary of state was concerned that he might lean into a foreign conflict in order to hold on to power. >> so this is where we find ourselves, with one of our two major political parties orbiting around a twice impeached, one-term president whose most loyal followers are now standing on sidewalks shouting about
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vaccine hesitancy as coronavirus cases surge thanks to the delta variant. kicking us off this hour, hayes brown, former hud secretary and 2020 democratic presidential candidate julian castro, and former u.s. attorney harry litman, a legal affairs columnist for the "l.a. times." harry, i'm going to start with the new information we're learning about trump's response to the insurrection in these new books. what sticks out to you, and does any of the new reporting expose the former president to even more criminal liability? >> well, it seems to me, alicia, that the most sensational stuff portrays him as completely unhinged, isolated, as unpresidential and dangerous and toxic as can be. but for criminal liability, remember, there's a crime out there we know about, and what has to happen for trump to have liability is for him to be connected with it as a
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conspirator or even a mastermind. so at least the excerpts we've gotten so far from these three terrific books tend to portray him more as a madman and less as a criminal. the real highlights to date are more about the complete -- [ inaudible ] >> which i think a lot of us felt we already had a full picture of. hayes, you write this week about your frustration with these political tell-all books. people are speaking out now about the dangers of trump's final months in office. how critical would it have been if we had known some of this information, let's say, six months ago? >> i think extremely critical. i mean if any of the people who are cited as sources in some of these books, like for example, vice president mike pence's national security adviser keith kellogg is quoted in one of the excerpts that came out recently from "i alone can fix it," that
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on january 6th, the day of the insurrection, was in with the president trying to convince him to please send out a tweet or something to get the mob to be called off, and the president just wouldn't listen, would not do it. if he had come forward with his, you know, testimony, his belief that trump would not call off the mob during the period where the senate was holding their impeachment trial, i do wonder whether things would have turned out a little differently in that second impeachment trial, where we did see more republicans vote to convict donald trump and prevent him from running in 2024 as he seems to be gearing up to do. so we could have nipped this in the bud, this whole idea that trump could come back to power, if some people had come forward with what they know instead of waiting to tell reporters to go into these fantastic books. i mean i hold so much scorn for these forces for these books, reporters not so much. it's not like they are the -- the people who are in the room,
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like john bolton during the first impeachment trial, who refused to testify but then almost a year later would publish his book verifying everything that trump was charged with in that first impeachment trial. we could have had this completely done if the senate had been able to convict him during impeachment, during either of those trials, but they couldn't, or rather the republicans couldn't be forced to in the senate because people didn't come forward with what they knew in time. >> part of the reason we're talking about this is because what happened six months ago, nine months ago. you can draw a direct line from those moments and the choices that were made to the conversations we are having today about things like voting rights. you have been pushing hard for senator manchin to move on the filibuster. senator amy klobuchar spoke to cnn this morning about her effort to get him onboard. i want you to take a listen. >> number one would be to get republicans. i personally don't think that's going to happen. so the second thing is to say, well, senator manchin has indicated some interest in the
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standing filibuster. that is one way to do it. we could have it focused on voting rights only. so we're continuing to work with him and many others to get this done. >> so first i wonder, secretary castro, if you agree with the senator's analysis there and if you are actually hopeful that he could move on this issue. >> well, of course i'm hopeful like everybody else is that he will, you know, and we have a lot of texas democrats up there right now, legislators who are pushing for voting rights legislation, and so many other people including senator manchin's colleagues. we do need to set aside the filibuster or do a carveout, something that will allow voting rights legislation to get passed. and you can draw that straight line, as you mentioned, alicia, because this all started with the big lie, trump's lie about massive voter fraud in the 2020 election. the pinnacle of that was on january 6th. we saw the disastrous
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consequences of that. and then we saw more consequences in the spring as state legislature after state legislature that is republican-controlled passed legislation to suppress voting rights in my home state of texas, in georgia, and so many other states around the country. democrats are going to have to grapple with that. america is going to have to grapple with that. the best way to do that, i believe, is to pass voting rights legislation, the for the people act and the john lewis voting rights act. we're going to have to get around the filibuster very likely to do it, and for senator manchin or anybody else to think that we're not, i see that as naive. i don't see these republicans who have bought in completely to trump's big lie -- i don't see them suddenly saying, yes, there are ten of us that are agree to voting rights legislation. that's just not going to happen. >> hayes, to that point, a lot of this comes to this question of whether or not political pressure can be applied and can work effectively. you have more than 20 prominent progressive groups and unions launching a new ad campaign against wisconsin senator ron
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johnson. they're slamming his whitewashing of the capitol riot and trying to tie it to his vote against protecting ballot access. take a listen. >> you are failing us, senator johnson. protecting our democracy has never been partisan and yet you refused to investigate the deadly attack on our capitol. access to the polls matters to all americans and yet you blocked voter protections that have the support of democrats, republicans, and independents. you are more committed to the lie. >> by and large it was all peaceful protests. >> and rigging the system to retain power than you are to protecting wisconsinites. >> hayes, your sense of the voter that ad is targeting? >> my sense of the voter that ad is targeting is probably republicans and independents in the suburbs of madison, people who are not exactly -- haven't bought in to trump's big lie but would not normally be democratic voters. they're the ones who i feel like can still potentially be swung into voting for whoever winds up being ron johnson's opponent in
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the midterms. i will say that the part of the perniciousness about the republican plan is to try and make sure that that voter doesn't really have much of a say in the upcoming elections. statewide elections like the one for u.s. senate, it's very hard for them to manipulate in the same way as they can manipulate elections in the house and the presidency. it's going to be really interesting to see whether that ad campaign and others like it will be effective in affecting these statewide races where the republicans' ability to sort of swing the rules to their advantage over the next couple of years will be a little bit more limited. they can't redistrict their way into fixing a u.s. senate election. they can't really throw up as many roadblocks to people voting in a statewide election as they can for those other two federal races. i do think it is imperative, like secretary castro said, to mass voting rights legislation, to ensure it is the case that people who would be swayed by
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that can have easy access to the ballot, to the polls come the midterms. >> secretary castro, i want to highlight a column from nicolle wallace who in her own words serves the gop for two decades. she writes, the attack on our democracy spearheaded by the ex-president and enabled by the gop represents the greatest threat since 9/11. in many ways, it is more difficult to defend against. after 9/11, no one called the hijackers normal tourists. no one denied the horror. the fight against domestic violent extremism in our military, law enforcement, and communities may be the most fraught counterterrorism effort in modern history. untangling it from right-wing disinformation and propaganda will require constant vigilance. that same right-wing disinformation fueling the attack on voting rights, i mean is there a way for democrats to effectively work against these forces to protect voting rights? >> well, what it's going to take is counteracting that
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information. that's why this conversation that folks are having right now about the need for facebook and all those other social media platforms to take disinformation much more seriously, to be much more aggressive, is so important. it's also going to take a lot of resources to counteract the disinformation that's out there and to put forth a positive vision for the country. the good news is, alicia, going into the 2022 midterms, number one, trump is a president who under his watch lost the house, lost the senate, and then lost the presidency himself last year. so that doesn't bode well for him. secondly, this time democrats actually have in joe biden and his administration a very good story to tell about competent, effective government when you think about getting shots in arms, the economy improving, jobs being created, things getting back up and open. so you're going to have two opportunities, the toxicity of trump and how effective joe biden has been on many measures,
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many scores -- i think there's still work to do whether it's on immigration, on police reform, on climate -- but effective, but what a lot of people are measuring a president by right now. that's going to help democrats. >> the select committee to investigate the attack on the capitol should start taking shape later this month. when we talk about looking at what happened and accountability, is there an opportunity here? >> is that me? i'm sorry. so of course there is. they have subpoena power, and we've never had the full account. you have leonnig and rucker and others beginning to piece together what should already be a clear account, but it's mind-boggling that even in the wake of trump, when lindsey graham says it's still the party of trump, that means that the big lie still is out there and has to be suppressed little by little by little. and as facts become established in that sort of official 9/11, big manual way, then it just has
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to be the case little by little by little that the truth emerges and the big lie recedes, but it's going to really require some work just as congressman castro is saying at the ballot box. that's the thing that will defeat them and that only, it appears. and just one more quick point is the supreme court has not made in any easier to have a national solution. >> all right. thank you all. next, texas democrats take their fight for voting rights before a national audience. a look at what they have planned this week. plus the clock is ticking on passing an infrastructure bill. congressman lois frankel on what it will take to make that happen. first richard lui, who is tracking the other big stories out there. >> good sunday to you. d.c. officials released a photo of a vehicle suspected of being involved in a shooting outside a washington nationals game. three people were shot saturday outside the stadium during a game. police say two of those victims
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were involved in that shooting and in custody. german chancellor angela merkel visited areas hit by extreme flooding. she met with survivors and volunteers. as of tonight, at least 180 are confirmed dead. and u.s. star coco gauff says she will not be competing in this summer's tokyo olympics after testing positive for covid-19. she said representing the u.s. at the olympics has always been her dream. the tennis player gauff is ranked number 25 in the world right now. more "american voices" right after this break.
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republicans are waging an all-out war on the right to vote across america, and democrats are mobilizing to fight back. today senators amy klobuchar and jeff merkley along with stacey abrams met with voters in georgia to discuss impediments to voting rights. and they met at a spot where some voters waited in line for hours in 2020.
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>> the process of electing our leaders is not a partisan process. our selections may be partisan, but our elections should not be. our elections are how we determine the course and the quality of our democracy, and it should not have as a respecter of person any party or part of how those elections are galvanized. >> today's roundtable items as the poor people's campaign and its partners are launching a season of nonviolent, more, direct action. they say their goal is to demand congress end the filibuster, pass all provisions of the for the people act, and fully restore the 1965 voting rights act. joining me now, the co-chair of the poor people's campaign. reverend, always good to see you. tomorrow, women are going to take part in the moral monday march as part of this campaign of direct action. talk to me about the significance of the date and what we should expect. >> thanks so much for having me. indeed, tomorrow is going to be a beautiful day.
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100 women from more than 30 states, from dozens of partner organizations, the head of the presbyterian church, the head of different major labor unions will be out taking action together, demanding the demands that you said before, right? the passing all of the provisions of the for the people act. you know, restoring all of the voting rights act. you know, the fact that we have fewer voting rights today than we did 56 years ago is -- is a disgrace. so women will be taking action in front of the supreme court and by the senate office buildings, demanding that this democracy is defended and that we, you know, make sure that we expand voting rights in this moment instead of trying to attack people by denying ourselves both the right to vote and to elect leaders who are
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going to pass policies that will lift the 140 million poor and low-income people out of poverty and make this society work for everyone. >> part of what makes this all so challenging is you both have the macro going on, right? you have this push for federal legislation. you have this national framework to try to make sure people understand this as a moral issue. and at the same time, there's an election that is coming one way or the other, and voters need to know what their rights are. they need to know how this is going to impact them. stacey abrams, senator klobuchar held a roundtable with georgia voters today. what is the most important thing that those voters need to know, these to understand about the obstacles to voting that are being erected by republicans? >> well, again, since 2020, 17 states have passed voter suppression laws, and there are hundreds being entered into 48 states currently. and this is on top of already having fewer voting rights than
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we have for more than 50 years despite the fact that people have given their lives for the kind of demanding and the expansion of this democracy. so what people need to know is that who is hurt the worst when deny people votes is poor people, low-income people, working people of all races, of all creeds, of all geographies because what happens is that elected officials come into office, are smuggled into office because of voter suppression, that then pass policies that attack the vast majority of people in our society. and what we also know is that people across the board, across party lines, across geography, all are saying that we should actually expand voting rights right now, that we should raise wages, and that we should actually lift from the bottom so that everybody could rise. so what these politicians are doing, these extremists are doing, is actually hurting the
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soul of our democracy. and we -- we can't stand fr for it, and we need to do something about it, and we can. it doesn't have to be this way. we can pass federal legislation right now that's in writing that john lewis and others helped to write that will actually expand voting rights and help then to lift poor people. >> you're in the thick of this fight, and i wonder how far you are willing to go. >> well, what we know is that 100 women -- [ inaudible ] >> reverend, i think unfortunately we have lost your audio, but hopefully we will get a chance to speak with you again. thank you so much for your time. next, a crucial week for infrastructure and biden's ability to get his ambitious
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republicans' top negotiator is pushing back on the timeline for an infrastructure deal and rejecting a major source of funding. senator rob portman calling this wednesday's deadline arbitrary as debate continues over the $579 billion bipartisan infrastructure bill. >> we shouldn't have an arbitrary deadline of wednesday. we should bring the legislation forward when it's ready, and it's incredibly important legislation. it's been talked about for years, and yet it's got to be done in a thoughtful, bipartisan way. we don't want to rush this process and make mistakes. >> portman says a crackdown on tax evasion is out of the question, claiming democrats
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plan to pay for their human infrastructure package with that approach. joining me now, democratic representative lois frankel of florida. she's the co-chair of the democratic women's caucus. congresswoman, i think when most of us hear this talk about how this will get funded, it's just very easy to get lost in the technocratic elements of the bill. can you explain in just like normal people talk what it is we're talking about when we talk about how to fund this? >> first of all, alicia, great to be with you. just to let you know, i just spent the day with my 2 1/2-year-old grandson. i raise that because i think for me and most americans, what is important to them is their family. so what i'd like to talk about is what we are trying to do, namely in this reconciliation package, make the child tax credit permanent, make sure that people have access to affordable, quality child care,
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that we are lifting the wages of the people in the care economy, have paid family leave. we're one of the only countries in the world that doesn't. so, you know, not to get caught up with -- not that the tax part is not important. i think for me, i'm focused on what we need to do, and i'm going to leave it to the president to figure out which way he wants to go on the taxes. >> well, i think part of what we're all trying to understand is how this gets done. so here's how transportation secretary pete buttigieg frames the infrastructure negotiations right now. take a listen. >> now, early on in this debate, if you remember a few months ago, when we were talking about human infrastructure, i heard a lot of republicans saying, oh, you know, child care is great. building veterans hospitals is great. we just don't think it's infrastructure, so you should put it in a different package. fine. now it's in a different package. let's see if they'll vote for it now. >> so how confident are you that both bills are going to pass through this process?
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>> well, let me say this. i'm, you know, 100% for physical infrastructure package. yeah, let's modernize our roads and bridges and so forth. but i will tell you this. i think for most families, parents, when they wake up in the morning, the first thing they think about is not their tires on their car, not that the tires aren't important. they think about their family. they think about their children. will their children be fed? do they have a safe, quality place for them to stay if they need child care? so this so-called package that is not the physical infrastructure but, to me, is important to keep our economy going is as important. >> i think specifically when you're talking about the child tax credit and this question of whether or not it can be made, the expansion can be made permanent, there are a lot of families that are wondering what that's going to look like for them. one mother telling "time" magazine, quote, it's like waving a candy bar in a dog's
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face. if you're going to get us dependent on it and then take it away. what would you say to those parents? >> what i say to them is we're going to get it permanent for them. the child tax credit is a game-changer. it's probably one of the most impactful, historic pieces of legislation that was in the american rescue package that congress has ever passed. it is not only a good, middle-class tax break, but is lifting 26 million children out of poverty. what does that mean? not only for the future of those children but for so society because children who are in poverty are at much higher risk for diabetes, for not doing well in school, and so it's a win/win when we make this child tax credit permanent. >> all right. congresswoman frankel, thank you so much for your time. next, hundreds of thousands
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administration for now from approving new daca applications. this weekend the president made clear the doj will appeal. but until this is resolved or congress makes the dream and promise act law, hundreds of thousands among us live in limbo. a daca recipient spoke with nbc's guad venegas about this latest setback. >> reporter: nearly 800,000 young people brought into the country illegally as children are part of the daca program. it gives them temporary legal status. >> we're contributing every day with our work. you know, i know daca recipients who are doctors, lawyers. i myself am a filmmaker. >> reporter: government figures show 90% of daca recipients are employed thanks to the program. but a texas federal judge ruled the program was illegal. it was part of a federal lawsuit brought by texas and eight other states. president biden, a supporter of daca, immediately responding that the justice department plans to appeal the decision. texas governor greg abbott
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criticizing the president's current immigration policies. >> i think what the biden administration is blind to, and that is because of the biden administration's open border policies, they are enticing millions of young children into a life where they can be trafficked, where they can be harmed, where some lose their lives. >> reporter: the ruling keeping the department of homeland security from approving new applications, but for current recipients, some good news. >> they can keep on renewing the applications. they can keep on renewing the work permits on and on like they have since 2012. >> reporter: this new legal battle comes a year after the supreme court stopped the trump administration from ending daca. for now, dreamers like jorge hope for a permanent solution. >> we're americans. we've been here for our whole life, most of our life. i don't know mexico. i don't know anything about my culture, which is why i consider myself an american. >> that was nbc's guad vanegas reporting. next, are tennessee republicans putting kids at risk
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in a test to, quote, own the libs, my next guest argues tennessee republicans are doing their damnedest to keep minors from getting covid vaccines. in recent days, they've stopped vaccine outreach events at tennessee schools for covid and other things like polio and hepatitis, which the cdc, as you can imagine, finds concerning. >> i find this incredibly disturbing. so not only is it disturbing for covid, but it is disturbing for all vaccine preventable illness,
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which we really can't afford and don't want to see surging just as we're trying to tackle this covid pandemic. so other vaccine preventable diseases, hpv, measles, mumps, rubella, these are all vaccine preventable and we need all of our children to get vaccinated for all of these things. >> remember, the delta variant continues to infect more and more americans, and those unvaccinated account for nearly all covid hospitalizations and deaths. so it is baffling to hear claims from tennessee's top immunization official, who says she was fired for promoting covid vaccines to teenagers, claiming she received a dog muzzle at work only days before her ouster. >> my reaction was, you got to be kidding me. this is a vaccine-preventable disease. i think it's all politics. you know, we have a super majority in the legislature. we have a governor who needs to run for re-election next year. we have a commissioner who has
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stated in the tennessean that she plans to run for governor or senator or get a white house cabinet position. it's hard to imagine that my firing wasn't at least in part an attempt to placate those legislators and keep them on their side. >> wow. these antics begging a question. what does it say about the republican party and those who continue to elect lawmakers who are willing to put kids' lives at risk for the sake of a political win? joining me, daily beast columnist wajahat ali. wajahat, there are so many things to unpack here looking at tennessee, starting with this effort to stop vaccine outreach for young people, not just with covid vaccines but basically all vaccines. >> that's right. republicans have become a pro-death party, and they're using tennessee like they always do as a type of laboratory for their most extreme measures that they want to implement on a national scale to ensure minority rule. tennessee has tripled its cases of coronavirus in the past three
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weeks. only 38% of tennessee is vaccinated, far below the national average. so naturally the tennessee republican lawmakers have pressured the department of health to ban all outreach of any vaccinations to kids. like you said, not just coronavirus but also measles and hepatitis and rubella. so are you going to make measles and corona great again apparently to own the libs. and while this is happening, governor bill lee has decided that tennessee has to be one of the 19 states in this country that has permitless carry. so while gun violence is rising and killing our kids in mass shootings, you can own a gun and carry a gun without a permit, but god forbid if you do vaccine outreach during a health crisis that is killing, like you said, the unvaccinated across the country. >> you have dr. anthony fauci saying this morning, talking about the dangers of disinformation. take a listen. >> we'd probably would still have smallpox, and we probably would still have polio in this
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country if we had the kind of false information that's being spread now. if we had that back decades ago, i would be certain that we'd still have polio in this country. >> we talk a lot about disinformation circulating on social media, but here is a state blocking information and access to lifesaving vaccines. i think often we talk about the politicization of this. we're now talking about it institutionally. >> an entire part of the gop has become a radicalized counter-majoritarian force. along with right wing media, they're radicalizing our fellow americans. they're just people trying to survive, but thanks to misinformation and social media, vaccine hesitancy, even two years ago, was a top ten global health threat, alicia, according to the world health organization. this is before coronavirus. as of right now on fox news, you have hosts who, by the way, all got vaccines. rupert murdoch, he got vaccines.
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tucker carlson, he got vaccinated, aactively promoting disinformation and encouraging their base not to get vaccines because vaccines, just like masks, have become weaponized as part of the ongoing endless culture war to ensure minority rule. that rule is for white christian males in this country who are losing their power, and as such, it was not economic anxiety but cultural anxiety that's motivating trump's base. that's why you had republican h madison cawthorn saying biden is going to go door to door and try to vaccinate you and try to take away your guns and your bibles, and this is why we have now a radicalized minority in this country that won't get vaccinated as coronavirus is surging and killing literally those that are unvaccinated and kids under 12 are not vaccinated and kids are now ending up in the er and getting long-term
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health problems so the pro-life party the gop has become the pro-death party and these cowards like marcia blackburn, tucker carlson are all vaccinated and don't have the courage of their convictions which is why i don't respect them. you don't get vaccinated but all of them are vaccinated and spreading this lie to feed the base which has become radicalize to own the libs and innocent people are going to die. >> that's why your article made me do a double take because what we're talking about here are children, right, children who may not have political thoughts of their own yet who are simply looking to their parents, to their guardians, to the leaders in their state to keep them safe. that's sort of the baseline you need to execute on any of those positions. what does it say, i asked this question at the top, what does it say about the party and what does it say about us as a society if kids become pawns in some political theater?
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>> what we're witnessing is anilistic death cult, a party willing to burn down everything including their children to maintain, let's be honest, white power. climate change denialism thrives and gun violence doesn't care, they love their guns more than they love their kids and the fact this they are not even doing vaccination outreach for measles, mumps, for hepatitis and for the delta variant which is killing unvaccinated all across the country shows to you how far they have gone, how right wing they have gone and how extreme they have become. there's no both sides here and the fact that kids are being used as a pawn for the culture war. unfortunately we have not seen the depths of that. thank you for your time. >> the countdown to jeff bezos' trip to state. we'll take you to countdown at mission control in texas. stay with us. mission control in texas stay with us e
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in the words of jay-z, what's better than one billionaire, two, and now in the new space race enters the second billionaire ready for takeoff. on tuesday amazon founder jeff bezos will attempt to fly to space in his rocket and capsule developed by blue origin. this comes just over a week after richard branson flew to the edge of space. if successful bezos will make history for taking part in the first unpiloted suborbital
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flight with a civilian crew. joining me from van horn, texas is nbc's morgan chesky. tell us what you're hearing out of there today and get into what is at stake on tuesday. >> reporter: major stakes here, and right now all systems are going g for this launch that will take place at 9:00 a.m. tuesday morning right outside of van horn, texas here and blue origin and bezos making it very clear while branson may have been the first to travel to the edge of space, his team, this crew of four people on board that blue origin new shepard rocket will be the very first civilian crew to truly make it out of this world. t-minus two days before the world's rich et man sets sail for space. all systems go for jeff bso and blue origin's new shepard rocket. >> the launch vehicle is ready, the vehicle is red and the crew is red and the flight direct zor
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ready. >> the crew featuring his brother bso's and his brother mark and the soon-to-be youngest and oldest astronauts. wally funk who trained for the mercury space missions back in the 1960s is 82 years old and will be joined by 18-year-old oliver damon, a last-minute replacement after the original winner of a $28 million auction backed out. >> i feel the responsibility because i'm youngest in space and to get more people interested in space and not even just space but science. >> the launch coming a week after another billionaire got his astronaut wings. sir richard branson an virgin galactic unity spaceship was the first to soar to the edge of space, giving the crew four minutes of near zero gravity, an out of this world view. >> it's a completed experience of a lifetime. >> reporter: blue origin making it clear their ride is different. starting with the rocket, taking off from west texas, no support aircraft needed. where branson skimmed space, bso's and company will chase the
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6 it-mile karman line, recognized internationally is a the edge of space. for now launch time stands at 9:00 a.m. eastern standard, tuesday, july 20th, a date paying tribute to the astronauts who paved the way. >> what was accomplished on that historic day when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin stepped on the surface of the moon was an innings operation to me personally, to an entire generation and to the world. >> and come tuesday a whole new generation will be watching. >> and we'll all be here watching that piece of history take place tuesday morning. if all goes according to plan blue origin would like to have two more flights take place this year and use the same rocket used in tuesday's launch which could take place in either september or october. >> thanks. that's all the time we have for today. i'll see you back here next weekend but now i'm hand it over
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to hedy hasan. >> hello. is there any better case for a wealth tax than two billionaires using their loose change to go out into space, do you think? >> i would love to see that same energy brought to, you know, ameliorating child hunger. that would be good. i mean, they only made $1.8 trillion apparently from the pandemic, america's billionaires but there you go. have a great rest of the weekend and great show as every. >> thank you. tonight on "the mehdi hasan showers," the obama program to protect undocumented kids is under threat again, this time from a republican judge who says it's illegal. california senator alex padilla is working to get historic immigration reform passed. he joins us live. it's biden versus facebook. the president says the social media platform is killing people so what does facebook have to say for itself. and historic protests in cuba. how should the united states stopped?


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