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this is "american voices." dangerous lies about the 2020 election threaten to reshape america's political landscape and are paving a path to attacks on our democracy. for evidence, look no further than texas. some texas state democrats are now in washington, d.c., working to prevent republicans from passing a restrictive voting bill. and in a long shot bid to get them back, the texas house speaker, a republican, put a jet on standby offering those democrats a free ride home. as you can guess, they said thanks but no thanks. there is that so-called audit in arizona's maricopa county, continuing with no end in sight. only four singular cases were found in arizona. and two men were planning to blow up the democratic
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headquarters in california. one message wrote, "after the 20th we go to war." their hope, according to the reporting, was to inflame tensions over election integrity. "the washington post" posted excerpts of a new book titled "i alone can fix it." through their sources they detail trump's attention to stay in the white house, revealing what many assumed that one of trump's biggest and loudest enablers that final year, rudy giuliani. one excerpt reading, quote, giuliani pushed the president to step into the east room and deliver a victory speech. never mind that his chief of staff mark meadows had earlier snapped at giuliani and said the president couldn't just declare himself the winner. just go declare victory right now, giuliani told trump, you've
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got to go declare victory now. you can bet republicans will run on trump's big lie in the 2022 midterms. "washington post" opinion columnist greg sargent writes, quote, telling the gop base an absurd, lurid, emotionally charged fiction is central to gop midterm homes. the trump era represented an idyllic age. victimization will move republicans to storm out to avenge it all. joining us now, michelle goldberg, megan malloy. megan, hayes brown writes for msnbc daily. he wrote, time and again the political creatures in trump's
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orbit kept silent until it was too late to do anything. i'm still fuming over former national security adviser john bolton's decision not to testify in trump's first impeachment trial only to confirm that all the charges against trump were true in his tell-all book which was released over a year later. similarly, it seems like maybe, just maybe, a lot of the information provided off the record in these books might have been useful for senators in the second impeachment trial. on the flip side, we're seeing gop lawmakers like kevin mccarthy once again embrace trump after criticizing his role in the insurrection. how does the pro-democracy wing of the gop, if there still is one, fight against this complicity and at worst fight back against those whitewashing january 6, megan? >> to these books specifically, there's a couple of interesting things about them and their timing. this most recent book you referenced titled "i alone can fix it" is a quote directly from trump's 2016 rnc acceptance speech. it's not like the party didn't
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know what they were getting into with this wholly unreasonable narcissist that would be elected president. these books are late to the game, but we knew this going into it. the republican party and all trump's sycophants chose to ignore it. i think it's interesting, about kevin mccarthy and so many in the republican leadership continuing to bow at this trump altar, right now kevin mccarthy doesn't have another choice. he's been trying to be speaker of the house for so long, he's failed. he sees donald trump as someone who is currently fundraising better than other republicans. he's better connected to the base than other republicans. and kevin sees that as a vital lifeline. you know, the only thing that's really going to change this, and this has been the million dollar question for these what i call more reasonable republicans, is to have some sort of political or electoral consequence, you know, despite this trumpism of the party taking over, they
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still picked up seats in 2020. and they kept the senate at a 50/50 split. until there are real election losses, you know, i think they're going to continue to see trump as a winning campaign strategy. >> michelle, no flowers for the people who are coming forward now, but the reason we're pulling up that reporting and showcasing it is because in some ways it presents us this potential alternate reality where trump doesn't listen to giuliani and doesn't go out there and declare victory and we're potentially not now dealing with the long tail or the hangover of the trump administration and contending with a big lie that is now showing up in states across this country, showing up at the federal level. i mean, michelle, i think it is easy to draw a line between that moment and where we find ourselves today. >> of course it is. and i would just say, i don't think there is at this point a pro-democracy wing of the gop, right? there are a couple of holdouts. there's liz cheney, adam kinzinger. but you can really count them on
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one hand, maybe two if you're talking about state legislatures as well. the gop has become a wholly-owned subsidiary of donald trump and his crusade against democracy. these books add some details, some of them quite striking, to a story that all of us already knew. i can't imagine -- actually i should say, because there were people who were i think blinkered enough to assume that donald trump would leave willingly if and when he lost the election. but anybody who watched him closely knew otherwise. michael cohen warned as much when he testified before congress. you know, donald trump signaled over and over again, he didn't accept the results of the 2016 election, which he technically won, even though he lost the popular vote. and so i think that we are very, very extraordinarily down a
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perilous road. the biggest and maybe most destructive fantasy of the trump years was the fantasy of the adults in the room, the idea that there were people who were going to somehow restrain him, who were going to somehow stop him from wreaking too much havoc. those people always showed up in, you know, later reporting to kind of tell reporters that they had -- even though they had been there, there were secretly working for the good of the country, not the good of donald trump. but that had never been true. all those adults in the room did was legitimize the most destructive presidency in american history. >> right. meghan, if there was a fantasy of adults in the room, maybe there was also a fantasy of adults in the republican party, because we're seeing the trump loyalty tests playing out in the states, in favor of more trumpian candidates. where does that leave the party? >> in a really bad place. i did start to see a little bit
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of light when the most recent campaign fundraising numbers came out earlier this week. there had been a handful of trump-endorsed candidates that weren't doing as well as the more moderate, we'll see, the less pro-trump republicans running in those races. so i think there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. as one who is still a registered republican, if you're going to have a functioning democracy, you need two strong parties. right now we're not headed toward a strong republican party, just one that's the party of trump. we keep thinking this is going to turn around. but with meetings like kevin mccarthy is having with trump and so many republicans, elise stefanik just switching things around and hitching her wagon back to trump, it's going to be tricky. until we have some real consequences, which we may have in 2022, you know, they're going to continue on down this trump
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train. >> so michelle, barring those consequences, or putting those consequences aside, there then comes this question of what democrats are supposed to do in the interim. earlier this week president biden delivered a speech in philadelphia about protecting the ballot box about protecting the vote of all americans. one columnist wrote, biden's speech assumes once people understand the threat posed to norms, they'll fend them off. many americans support attacks on democracy and those who don't, face a system stacked against them. michelle, i wonder what you make of that analysis, right? i think the one thing everybody agrees is that this is incredibly hard because it should seem obvious, right? it should seem obvious that democracy is at stake here yet it doesn't seem to be that simple. >> well, so i would disagree slightly in that i think that
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those americans who see the deck stacked against them do represent a very slight majority, right? they don't represent all of the country by any means. but they do represent -- they certainly represent a larger slice of the country than those who would burn our democracy to the ground if it means that people like donald trump can't rule it. the problem, as david graham said, is that our system at multiple levels is stacked against majority rule. and, you know, the threats to democracy are growing both in terms of just demographically as the distance between the most populous states and the least populous states grows, because of gerrymandering, which could hand the house back to the republicans even if they don't win any more votes than they won the last time around, and because of these voter restriction measures, voter intimidation measures.
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one of the most i think egregious parts of the texas bill is it would allow anybody to act as poll watchers and harass people who are going to the polls. i mean, imagine a bunch of armed proud boys or armed three percenters or sort of qanon fanatics hanging out at the polling place, harassing people as they come in and having nothing that the law can do about it. >> i don't think anybody wants to imagine that, michelle, yet you are so right to set those as the stakes. michelle and meghan, thank you so much. new court documents reveal an unmistaable link between the january 6th attack and white supremacist. jill wine-banks help us make sense of it. first, richard lui is tracking the other big stories of the hour. >> hey, alicia, a very good saturday to you.
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three texas democrats visiting washington, d.c. tested positive for covid-19. two of them met with president biden on tuesday. the white house says neither harris nor biden are at risk. governor cuomo met with investigators who are looking into claims of sexual harassment on the part of cuomo with his staff. and today marks one year since the passing of congressman and civil rights icon john lewis. the navy today honored him by christening the first of a new class of ships, the 746-foot "usns john lewis" in san diego. more "american voices" after this break.
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in washington today, protesters gathered to deny the events of january 6th. demonstrators, some traveling from as far as idaho, marched outside the jail where some of the rioters are detained. >> you can see the videos. they're locked in. inside the velvet rope, looking around, holding up their
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cameras. these are not violent people. most of them. >> some of them are locked up for knocking police unconscious, punching, gassing. >> yep. and, uh, the allegation that a police was struck by the fire extinguisher was made and has never been substantiated, no video provided, no medical evidence of officer injuries have been provided. so there are a lot of allegations that were made, those first 48 hours. and that's why i didn't trust any of it. >> all of that of course not true. meanwhile, 16 members of a white supremacist group have been indicted for extreme violence unrelated to the events of january 6th. two men have also been charged with a plot to bomb democratic party headquarters in california. joining me now, ryan riley, senior justice reporter for the huffington post and jill wine-banks, msnbc contributorer and the co-host of the sisters in law podcast.
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she didn't like, "the washington post" says prosecutors are asking for 18 months for one count of obstructing congress. what kind of precedent will this case set, especially for defendants facing conspiracy or assault charges? >> given the number of cases that are pending, we're talking hundreds of people who have been arrested and will be charged. even the first one means that it is a precedent-setting thing. jail seems to be necessary. not just to send a message to all the other potential insurrectionists, but to keep us safe in the short term. so i think that 18 months seems like a very fair and actually lenient sentence. these are felonies that could end up causing someone to be found incarceratable for up to three to five years. the misdemeanors of course will be lesser penalties. but 18 months seems to be within the sentencing guidelines and is a good thing for the prosecutors
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to be asking for, to protect all of us have future possible insurrections. >> ryan, you reported on a rioter released from jail because he didn't know the difference between the capitol and the white house. >> yes. i mean, this is going to be an ongoing theme here, we saw multiple cases were people were confused where they were. there was an individual who was confused between the house and the senate. that wasn't quite as bad as some of the people who thought they were at the white house and they were actually at the capitol. it wouldn't make a lot of sense for them to storm the white house which was controlled by trump at that point. it's just sort of funny, when we talk about this ongoing thing, oh, people had legitimate concerns about the electoral vote count, and it's just like, when you look at the actual rhetoric these people were using, they didn't have a very deep understanding of how the electoral process necessarily worked in a lot of cases. weren't really deep in the weeds here. so i think it's something to keep in mind when we hear these
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claims. the paul hodgkin's case will be interesting tomorrow, his lawyer has made an interesting argument, that the judge should take a lead from abraham lincoln, at least what abraham lincoln planned to do after the civil war and sort of, you know, forgive i guess the confederacy against america. that's sort of an interesting position, to put his client in the position of, i suppose, confederates in this case. they're saying to bring the country together, to unite, they're asking the judge to have some leniency here. that's a fascinating argument, it will be interesting to see how the judge hears that out, because it's a very political argument. it's not really based on the law, saying, hey, this is a political thing, a lot of people will be upset if you throw the book at this guy. it will be interesting to see what the judge does here. >> jill, i would love to hear your thoughts on that argument but i also want to ask you, msnbc has obtained excerpts from the book "i alone can fix it," revealing a top general's fear that formula president trump would attempt a coup and that he
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considered pardoning himself after the capitol riot. trump has refuted the reporting, of course. could this book become evidence in lawsuits against trump? >> not so much the book as the people who said these things. they could be witnesses. as a former general counsel of the army, i am completely trusting of the military people who would not follow an illegal order, would not participate in a coup against the united states. as to the argument that's been made, oh, forgive them, just the way lincoln might have forgiven the people who fought against the united states, we're in a very different situation, where you need to make sure that this doesn't happen again. there hasn't been a war that was ended and sort of a treaty signed and somebody conceded the loss. this is an ongoing problem and you mentioned the sacramento
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people, this is another issue. and again, they're being held in jail on serious, serious federal and state charges. and in order to stop this from happening in every state in our country, we need to send a message that this will not be tolerated, and we can't just let people off because they were mistaken. to me it's ludicrous to say, i thought i was in the white house. it doesn't matter. you were using violent means to enter a place that you were not supposed to be. and you can't allow that to happen. when you're beating up the capitol police, which is on tape, despite the man you interviewed or that was shown in the interview on your show, you need to keep that in mind. we saw it happen. don't forget what we all saw with our own eyes. >> ryan, speaking what have we all saw happen, the select committee on january 6 is going
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to hold its first hearing in ten days, kind of unbelievable it's taken us until late july for that to happen. there's going to be testimony from metropolitan and capitol police officers. how much of this is about setting the record straight and how much of it is actually about accountability? >> yeah, i think the record is continuing to be set straight based upon a lot of these videos that are being released, body worn cameras from the metropolitan police department. what they've put out so far is only the videos that have been used in detention hearings. i would encourage viewers to go and look at some of those videos. because you see starkly what happened that day. and it's actually interesting because a lot of these videos now are generating new leads for online sleuths who are looking around for a -- following and tracking down a lot of these people who participated in the attack that day. they'll see someone in a video and be able to flag that. as the government releases more of these videos, these outside organizations and sleuths
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working on this are able to make a lot more connections. the government is clearly struggling just with the overwhelming nature of this case. it's a massive investigation. it will be one of the largest investigations if not the largest fbi investigation in terms of number of defendants charged, certainly, and the extent of the evidence that we have here in american history. this is going to be something that will be with us a very long time, certainly through 2020, 2024, it will also continue to be an issue. this will be around for a very, very long time. it will reshape american politics for a long time to come. >> jill, i have to ask you when pin you chose today and what it says about the stories we're talking about. >> it's directly related to the stories you're talking about, which is, "go directly to jail, do not stop anywhere else." they're basically monopoly squares that were sent to me and reflect what i think the proper sentences should be for all of the domestic terrorists that are attacking our country right now
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and trying to undermine our democracy. >> all right, ryan and jill, thank you both. breaking news from the city of spring, texas. officials there confirming moments ago that 60 people were exposed to a chemical at a children's pool at the six flags splash town. all 60 were decontaminated. 26 were taken to the hospital. we are told all are in stable condition. we're going to bring you developments as we learn them. still ahead, the effects of climate change before our very eyes. you'll hear from two scientists on why this moment reveals a crisis of leadership in america. first we head to miami where there is a growing show of solidarity for cubans fighting against dictatorship. stay with us. there's an america we build and one we explore. one that's been paved and one that's forever wild. but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure.
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to free cubans from dictatorship. they blasted cuba's government for its sputtering economy. cubans are demanding deep political overhaul in their country. cuban law enforcement was quick to crack down on free speech, detaining protesters, fueling a pro-government rally in havana. the united nations called it genocidal. with me from miami, nbc's stephanie stanton. stephanie, what are you hearing from the crowds in miami? >> reporter: hi, alicia. we are here outside freedom tower. let me show you what's happening here. we have thousands of people who have turned out for this rally. many of them are cuban americans who emigrated here from a small
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communist nation. you're looking at a video they're playing, the organizers say this was taken from inside cuba during those protests. they say that it shows police violence. many people here of course are supporting residents inside cuba. they are calling for a regime change. cubans, as you know, took to the streets in a rare move, protesting earlier this week. and that is what has sparked this entire movement here in miami. those less in cuba say they are suffering, they can't get basics like food and medicine. many here today say after more than 60 years, it's time to end the cuban regime. >> we said it a long time ago, open your eyes. freedom for cuba. >> i remember that we had to leave because friends and family were being sent to the firing squad. houses were being confiscated. communism was taking over.
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>> my dad broke into the u.s. embassy, him and 21 others, broke into the u.s. embassy and we decided to ask for help and they helped us. me, my sister, my mom, ended up here in the united states because of the u.s. government. >> reporter: and back out here live, this event is being organized by cuban-american actor/singer/songwriter jean carlos and legendary cuban singer willie torino. you are looking at these videos again, they are quite compelling. they are, according to organizers, some pictures, sights and sounds of what is happening on the ground in cuba. now, this event is expected to go until about 8:30 local time. then they will light up freedom
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tower in red, white, and blue, the colors of the cuban flag. the freedom tower is important to the cuban people. it's called the ellis island of the south. in the '60s and '70s, this is where a lot of cuban immigrants came to get help once they fled cuba. back then they were part of the resistance and of course they were fleeing communism under fidel castro. we'll send it back to you. >> stephanie, thank you so much. next, a transformative moment for millions of americans. why the child tax credit is more than just good policy. and later, scorching heat, raging fires, all fueled by climate change. two women fighting for real world solutions will join me. (vo) singing, or speaking. reason, or fun. daring, or thoughtful. sensitive, or strong.
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democrats make those payments permanent? it's a policy so transformative that estimates suggest that together with other elements of the american rescue plan, it could cut child poverty in half across america. we are talking about lifting some 4 million kids out of poverty. these monthly payments were included in the sweeping economic stimulus bill president biden signed into law back in march to fight the economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic. on thursday, as monthly checks started to roll out, the president championed the legislation. >> i believe this is actually an historic day. an historic day in the sense that we continue to build an economy that respects and recognizes the dignity of working class families and middle class families. it's historic and it's our effort to make another giant step toward ending child poverty in america. i think this will be one of the things that the vice president and i will be most proud of when
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our terms are up. >> how much money are we actually talking about? most families will receive $300 for each child 5 and under and $250 each month for children 6 to 17. the payments apply to single parents earning as much as $112,000 a year and couples making up to $150,000. that will remain until the end of this year when the payments expire. families will then claim the second half of the benefit when they file next year's taxes. altogether it's a total of $3,600 for each kid 5 and under and $3,000 for kids between 6 and 17. i just threw a lot of numbers at you. but the big takeaway here is how it helps families who need help most. biden's expansion of the child tax credit, annie lowery writes, is a clinton-era policy that has provided families with up to
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$2,000 a year per child. because of the way the credit was structured, families often got nothing because they did not earn enough. these monthly payments expire in december and president biden is urging congress to extend them by at least four years. congresswoman susan dell bennett told my colleague craig melvin they should be permanent. >> we need to make sure that families have that certainty going forward because kids are don't grow up in a year, they don't grow up in five years. we need to make this permanent. i think when we talk to families across the country, that story will continue to be told about how important this is to not only help families and rebuild our middle class but frankly to lift children out of poverty. >> i heard president biden say this policy could be one of his proudest accomplishments as president but in order to build back better for years to come american families need a permanent solution which brings me to congresswoman chrissy houlahan. we're back after this.
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and to give you a sense of how transformative this is, this would be the largest ever one-year decrease in child poverty in the history of the united states of america, as we begin now. historic reductions in child poverty among white, black, latino, aapi communities.
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it's not even close. the benefits will be felt for years. >> the president there touting his administration's expansion of the child tax credit for most american families with children. however, the monthly payments expire at the end of the year. among the congressional democrats pushing to make them permanent, pennsylvania representative chrissy houlahan. representative, as these payments start hitting bank accounts, families start adding this to their budget. so many of them wonder if these payments will continue. your sense of what will be necessary to ensure this policy becomes permanent. >> i'm hopeful -- first of all, thank you for having me. in terms of the child tax credit, i'm hopeful people will appreciate these tax credits which i think will help elevate hundreds of millions of american children and their families. and i hope that they'll receive that tax credit and realize that this is something that elevates their family but also frankly elevates our society and our country as well. so i'm hoping there will be a push from the american people
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and i'm also hoping that the push that is already happening within the congress will be successful and will be able to make these tax credits permanent. >> we're talking about this as one piece of it. you of course are also fighting for a paid family and medical leave as a part of this debate over infrastructure. tell me how you see those two policies connecting. >> sure. so what we saw with the pandemic, i think very much firsthand and with very much fresh eyes, was just how important the care economy is and the care community and caregivers of our nation are. we saw that without them, we really all struggle to be effective and functioning families and communities and a nation. and so what we're hoping is that we have the opportunity now with the infrastructure package and subsequent family and jobs packaging to really talk about and codify this concept of family and medical leave, to make sure that everyone has the
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opportunity to have access to that kind of leave. right now, it's estimated that 79% of our workers don't have access to paid family leave. and i think it's estimated that 60% of our workers don't have access to medical leave either. and these are things that are fundamental to being able to be a successful worker and a successful member of the family. so i'm hopeful that in whatever package we're able to put this into, that we're able to take a very large coalition and make this happen and make this a reality. >> i keep circling back to the same point. i'm sure that viewers who watch every weekend are growing tired of hearing me say this but i feel it so deeply i have to underscore it, which is, if coming out of a global pandemic, right, where people were forced, if they were able to keep their jobs, to also be caretakers in tandem, whether that's caretakers of children or caretakers of parents, there's reasonable analysts called it a failed market. it is not working for the
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childcare providers. it is not working for parents. i mean, all of this was exposed and laid bare. you would think if there is not the political will to do this, in this moment, that there may never be. >> and i'm hoping there is the political will. it certainly is popular with the american people. and i think the american people recognize how important this is. i and about 80 other members of the caucus were able to put together a letter emphasizing the importance of paid family and medical leave in whatever subsequent packages we're moving forward on. that's a broad and vast coalition that has been led by chairwoman delauro for a very, very long time. now because of the pandemic might be the chance and the opportunity that we've to be able to build a much more robust and much more inclusive economy that works for everyone. and i think that that's been something that i hope we've all seen with the pandemic. what we're seeing right now is that women in the workplace are i think at a 30-year low at this point in time in terms of our ability to participate.
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and of course family and medical leave is not just a woman's issue but it is a family issue as well. so this is something that i think its time has come. if you're building an entire economy that's inclusive of everyone, you need to make sure you're including 51% of the population, which are our population of women. i'm hopeful we have the opportunity to catch lightning in a bottle right now and make this a reality. >> congressman houlihan, thank you so much for your time tonight. next, wild weather before our very eyes. the result of a changing climate. two women working to address the leadership crisis they say caused it. they're here next. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪
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iz e take the fire in oregon which burns areas larger than central park each hour. it is so hot in california that officials there are warning the heat could kill all the salmon in the sacramento river. making clear the denial phase of climate change over. joining me dr. johnson, the co-founders of the all you can save project.
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which is available in paperback. go out and get that. the fires ripping through areas larger than some u.s. states, i both wonder how they are connected and how common they're going to become? >> i don't think anyone really expected it to all be shifting this dramatically this quickly. i think a lot of us have been expecting this, but the way it is all crashing down right now has even scientists who have been studying this a little bit like, oh, wow, okay, it is here now. so the question is what are we going to do about it now that we have people's attention, now has it is clear that the crisis is coming for all of us, right? if germany with its renowned infrastructure can't handle these changes, if the western u.s. is on fire, if we have droughts and floods and hurricanes and all of it, the question is what do we do and how do we get more and more
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people to feel welcomed into this work and finding their roles. that is what catherine and i have been working on through this book "all we can save," which is an anthology of essays by 40 women who are climate leaders talking about their work and the lessons there and ways people can be part of climate solutions. >> i do want to ask you about how you bring more women, how you bring more communities of color into this conversation. but i also have to say, dr. wilkinson, it seems like we moved pretty rapidly from talking about climate change as this thing that was out there, that was going to happen, that we are going to see the effects one day to already talking about just how we begin to build our lives around this reality. how should people be thinking about this? >> well, the sub title of the book is "truth, courage and solutions." i think that's a really helpful trifecta for people to hold because the truth is you are absolutely right. climate crisis is here. it is now, it is impacting lives in communities. we have to figure out how we're going to live with that and take
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care of one another, but we also have got to figure out how we're going to address the root causes, namely to transition from the fossil fuel economy. that means we have got to be thinking about more than reusable grocery bags and changing our light bulbs. we need to be thinking about big investments from the government at the scale of the crisis. that's why if folks are asking the question that so many people are of what can i do, right now one of the best things you can do in this country is to go to and it will walk you through calling your senators and asking them to support a big, bold climate bill this summer. that is the most critical solution on the table right now. >> i mean, dr. johnson, there are a lot of people we could have talked to for this segment. the reason i wanted to talk to you and to dr. wilkinson is because you are focused on just that. because i think it is easy to see the images and say, i am so freaked out i just want to look away, and that's the last thing we can afford to do.
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so to come back to the title of your book, to the work you both have been doing, how do you bring more women in and how do you bring more communities of color into this work? >> i think the really important fact to start with is that people of color actually already care more about the climate crisis. >> yes. >> they're more concerned per polling data from yale and george mason universities. about 49% of white americans compared to 57% of black americans and 70% of latinx americans. if we are talking about engaging people, it makes perfect sense to engage people already concerned about the issues, the percentage of americans who are outright climate deniers is a single digit. we can basically charge ahead without them at this point. we clearly are seeing these images. we know that we can't wait to have endless conversations about it. as catherine said, it is a moment for bold transformation. this is a moment where we need the full ingenuity and creativity, wisdom of humanity
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at the payable. and for the last few decades, for the last 35 or so years since we have known very clearly what burning fossil fuels was going to do to this planet, we've had the public discourse led by a fairly small group of white men who have done good work, many of them, but will never represent the full spectrum of solutions and creativity and opportunities and ways in which we are going to have to do this work, right, because this has to be transformation in every place, every single place on the globe is being impacted in different ways. it is going to have to be every sector that we are talking about energy and transportation and agriculture and land use and buildings and manufacturing, all of that needs to shift from fossil fuel-based to some form of regenerative economy. so to think we could do it without people of color, to think that we could somehow make this transformation without women is just absurd. for women in particular, catherine and i have been using this book, this anthology of essays and poems and art by
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women who are knowledgeable about climate to instigation this, to say look at the leaders we are missing, look at the wisdom that's been out there waiting for us to take heed. it is so important in this moment to focus on solutions and not just sit in the shock of what is happening in the world. so, as catherine said, on the policy table right now there's a huge opportunity for congress through not just the infrastructure bill but through reconciliation to pass the largest climate policy that has ever been passed in the u.s. if you go to, they will have information on how to reach out to your representatives that's super simple. that's what we need right now. we need our government to lead. >> doctors ayana elizabeth johnson and catherine wilkinson, i have been very impressed with this. you have given me the first glimmer of hope in a long time. the paperback version of their book, "all we can save, truth,
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courage and solutions for the climate crisis" comes out on july 20th. that's all the time i have today. i will see you back here tomorrow for more "american voices." but for now i hand it over to my colleague, joshua johnson. >> hey, alicia. thank you very much. it is great to be with you. texas democrats are in washington to press for action on voting rights but the clock is ticking on congress to take up president biden's infrastructure bills. is there room to do both? also, we are seeing unprecedented anti-government protests in cuba this week. demonstrators are facing a heavy police presence on the streets of havana. what led to these historic protests and what comes next? and new covid cases and hospitalizations are on the rise in nearly every state. dr. anthony fauci shares his thoughts on these worrisome trends. from nbc news world headquarters in new york, i'm joshua johnson. welcome to "the week." ♪ ♪


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