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chaos of january 6th. they're from the new book, i alone can fix said, by pulitzer prize-winning and washington post reporters they write that after seeing the riot unfold, trump's white house counsel, trump could be brought up on charges. the afternoon of january six, it started dawning on the white house counsel and his deputies that trump could conceivably be charged with a crime for setting off the deadly riot. there were a lot of ifs about whether that was likely. but one thing that was absolutely guaranteed, sprawling investigations. any good prosecutor could closely examined with the president, donald trump jr., rudy giuliani, and others had said at that rally. they could be accused of sedition, a charge not leveled at a president in a century. also tonight, covid cases are climbing around the country. some of the officials are now bringing back mask mandates. nbc news correspondent miguel
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muddier has the latest. >> tonight, los angeles the country's largest county taking a step back requiring masks indoors, even for the vaccinated effective sunday. impacting 10 million people here, and breaking with cdc guidance, it's a clear signal concern is growing over the dangerous delta variant. meantime, for some of the 48 million children under 12 and their parents who are hoping to get them vaccinated this fall a longer wait. the fda will now review several additional months of safety data. meaning a vaccine for kids will likely be available until early next year. >> all schools should really have very strong contingency plans. one of the metrics was true go to virtual learning. but to keep stuff safe. >> an important to note, this is nothing like the search we saw months ago. this latest surge is mostly among people who are not
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vaccinated. and don't forget, we have ample vaccines available across this country. well today the white house went on offense against those who spread met vaccine misinformation. they called out specifically tech companies for making that happen. >> misinformation takes away our freedom to making informed decisions. modern technology companies have unable to to poison our infinite information environment. during the covid-19 pandemic, misinformation has led people to resist wearing masks in high-risk settings. it has -- this has led to avoidable illnesses and deaths. simply put, health information has cost us lives with. >> meanwhile, president biden is focused on both his foreign and domestic policy agenda. today he hosted german chancellor angela merkel in the white house. his extended child tax credit
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for parents started to receive the first payments today. >> it's meant to reduce child poverty by over 40%. and this could be a significant game-changer. >> president biden also aligned with senator democrats to make his domestic agenda reality. chuck schumer announced the senate will begin voting on the bipartisan infrastructure, that's a hard infrastructure one, next wednesday. with that let's bring in our lead off guest on this thursday night, jonathan lanier white house reporter from the associated press, paul butler, former -- apparently professor of law at georgetown, and clint brats, a former fbi special agent and distinguished fellow at the foreign policy in research institute. mr. lieu mirror, i'll start with you, let's talk about this book. these revelations are absolutely crazy. you've covered a whole lot of crazy in the trump white house for four straight years.
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when you read, even just some of these quotes today, where do you rate them on a scale from this is unbelievable? >> hi steph, good to see you. for a long time those of us who cover the trump administration sort of thought there was the big three of days that we would forever define this presidency, that he could generate headlines and controversies dozens of times a day. it was always charlottesville, it was helsinki, and it was the children in the cages. and all of that of course was eclipsed by his response to the covid pandemic, and of course january six. there is a terror terrific work of reporting by your friends, congrats to them. it's hard to know where to begin. we're aware that president trump on the day of january six was unfolding formed a riots, using flagpoles and hockey sticks to beat up capitol hill police officers. and he enjoyed the spectacle.
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we've got new insight into that. there is been concerns that general milley was afraid and expressed to others that the president of the united states could perform a coup against the government to prevent incoming president joe biden from taking power. which led today, trump, civilian donald trump, so laid out this statement, where he said if i were to have a coup, i wouldn't involve general milley. and you actually set this phrase, i'm not in the coups! which seems like a defining moment in american history. where we actually have an american president proclaim we are not in the coup, and i'm not sure we believe him. because we saw what he tried to do to hold on to power. this is a terrific work of journalism and it shows how close, this close, to perhaps
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being inundated extraordinarily dangerous situation and losing a fundamental piece of this democracy. >> well ok, who doesn't remember that we were this close? republicans. who day in and day out, the further we get away from january six, they're trying to erase the insurrection rather than trying to distance themselves from trump. let's remind our audience, he lost. we jonathan. >> no that's true. 100%. and none of the republicans have done that. liz cheney, mitt romney, there's a handful of republicans,'s house and senate, who have stood up to them. very few others have. they are still trying to catch their star, their names, to donald trump. they see how he still does -- how well he does in the polls.
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therefore, they're afraid to contradict him. mitch mcconnell is a great example. after january 6th, during the president second impeachment trial, he denounced what happened there. since then, he has made clear that if donald trump were to be the 2024 republican nominee, he would support him again. he is someone who is try to block democratic efforts to overturn republican state legislature efforts. the republicans are not going anywhere. they have trying to downplay what happened on january 6th. we have heard ron johnson and others who suggested that these were just tourists, that these were black lives matter protesters, rather than what we did see which was a group of pro trump rioters. we've also seen, of course, that there are republican house leader mccarthy refused, at least so far, that members to the january 6th panel. blocked the bipartisan commission. now we have the select committee formed by speaker
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pelosi and leader mccarthy will downplay those events. so the democracy is definitely in a perilous state, stephanie. and we're seeing republicans refuse to own up to the january 6th event, trying to put it behind them, with their focus to only reclaiming a majority in the senate during the 2020 midterms. >> tourists and -- paul, we have the latest excerpt about concerns that trump could face charges stemming from the insurrection. so far, that has not happened. is there any political risks still remaining for the former president? what >> you know, it's a -- a gutsy prosecutor could bring a case against former president trump? possibly. but the person who would bring the prosecution would be the attorney general. he would have to authorize it, and so far, he has not shown
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that kind of guts. so i think our nation has to turn this -- needs to turn its eyes to some other investigation, some kind of accountability for trump. these revelations enhanced the case in georgia where the atlanta district attorney is investigating election fraud by trump, giuliani, and others. and certainly, we've heard evidence of trump's criminal intent here, his recklessness. ivanka, according to these reports, we strive three times to haul off his troops and the president refused until it is too late. this investigation has nothing to do with the manhattan district and tierney of the trump organization. but stephanie, i believe it provides more incentive for those prosecutors to try to bring down mr. trump himself. remember, famously elk upon was brought down by tax invasion.
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that was far from the worst crime he had ever committed. but it was something that prosecutors could prove. so i believe manhattan district attorney will be looking at that as, well on sunday what president trump said that, after the impeachment, after both impeachments, i got worse. that's a prosecutor's worst fear, that when people are allowed to act as if they're above the law, to escape accountability, they get worse. and trump himself admitted that. >> another book with ivanka book leaking that behind the scenes she was really trying to do the right thing. well she's always welcome to join us here on msnbc until is publicly what she was doing in the administration. >> let's turn to the white house and vaccines. they're really trying to vaccine misinformation, and i'd like to see what psaki said today. >> there are about 12 people
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per -- all of them remain active on facebook, despite some even being banned on other platforms. including facebook, one that facebook owns. facebook needs to move more quickly to remove more violet of posts. >> they need to remove it, or wet? facebook is saying they're removing misinformation but that's after it's posted. and unless the government changes rules and regulations, do they have any way to force facebook to do anything? facebook -- will both who are very very happy with them, and they haven't broken any laws. >> that's right stephanie, to facebook's credit, if you look all the way back to election 2016, we've been talking about this for basically five years now, congress of never said what they wanted least. facebook and all the social media companies go on releasing
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content based on the lens of what's going on in the united states at the moment. and that's the best way to go. the other part is, if you are always policing content, you're always losing to the worst offenders, and that is what the press secretary was right about. 1% of the manipulators make about 90% of the misinformation and disinformation that is out there. so if you're fighting content, you're always going to lose. you're reacting. and instead, you have to focus on individuals, you focus on the most -- who make a sizeable dent on malign information that is causing this problem problem for people who can't trust the vaccines are who can get to them because they are in far more fear. they're fearing -- that will always get to them quicker -- >> the best we're going to get out of facebook is that they're going to try real hard, as long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line very much.
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don't we have to turn our attention to government if we want something done about misinformation in terms of changing regulations? >> stephanie, i absolutely agree. and i have testified to the senate for five times now, i've lost track, about this exact issue. there has not been one single regulation or law after all of those hearings. going all the way back to 2017. they will call a lot of the heads of social media companies and capitol hill, they will yell at them, but they will never really issue any guidelines. and, from the perspective of capitol hill right now, it's a debate about section 2:30, and free speech if you're looking at the republican side of the aisle, versus the political left side of the aisle which is focused on things like disinformation and election misinformation. so i think it's all -- until capitol hill can decide what they want, what you'll see is all of the social media companies, facebook being the biggest, one will lean in whatever direction is in the
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majority. i think that's just a not good situation for things like securing our elections, making people get making sure people get vaccinated, and trusting individuals who are elected in our institutions. >> so the ceos, they called to testify, they get embarrassed for a day, then they have back on their planes, nothing changes. jonathan, let's talk about infrastructure and this extended child tax credit. if the bipartisan deal goes through next week and they end up scrapping the entire democratic going alone three and a half trillion dollar deal, but they find a way to make that child tax credit permanent, hugely popular, we started seeing payments go out today, would that be a giant win for this white house? >> well then -- that remains to be seen. and those tax credits were sent out today, and if you got it in the mail, you got a letter that accompanied it with a signature by the president saying that
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they would do this. the white house is trying to do this on two tracks more simultaneously. there was an intense three hour plus meetings today for the bipartisan deal. the trio of white house negotiators and they're still issues to be worked out. i would not say that there is a guarantee that the bipartisan infrastructure, highways, roads, robin, is a guaranteed to be done. because there are concerns about the pay force where the enforce irs payments would be enough to cover it. weit we
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>> i want to a football analogy, saying -- but i will say this, they're entering the home stretch but they're not at the finish line and these couple of weeks, especially when these vote start. are crucial. >> on the bipartisan deal, will republicans stick with this yield, the 11 republicans who said he has they're going to go for it if they think this three and a half trillion reconciliation is going to happen at the same time or after, why on earth would they do that? that would give president biden the biggest win ever? >> that is a good point. and some republicans are considering, it we've heard from others who say this is my word, senator romney is one who said that hey, i want to see the bill be written, he objected to the idea the majority leader schumer would bring it to a vote next week
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without it being drafted. i think that is where some democrats are also concerned, mansion in particular said i want to see what is in there, i don't want to rule out a bill that size but i want to know how it's gonna be paid for. democrats have said look, this will all get, done but the particulars are still being sauce out. we may have a delay. there is some hope to get this done, but it may take longer, frankly, for the particulars to come in. i do think there's a chance you might see republicans start to walk away from it saying look, why are we spending all of this money on this bipartisan infrastructure bill when the democrats are spending all that much money on their own bill? as much as the white house feels good about where they are, they know that this is not a sure thing yet, and we also heard from the press secretary psaki saying that he will be acting perhaps as a closer and willing to negotiate, give up some stuff, to get these things done. >> and while we wait bridges continue to crumble, paul,
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before we go i want to ask you quickly about something that caught our eye today, we notice this tweet from political reporter where he wrote new york times files of shoot for copy of material, mueller deputy maintained sometimes referred to as an alternative mueller report, andrew weizmann, contributor at msnbc. what could they be looking for, and alternative mueller report? >> what weizmann says in this book is that they prepared a separate report with some key facts that mueller was not willing to reveal to the public since the result of his investigation was that no charges would be brought against trump. we have no idea of what is in this alternative report but it is hugely significant for two reasons, but the first is, there could be real evidence revolving trump's culpability
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revolving collusion and obstruction, which of course the mueller report found evidence of. the other concern, stephanie, is that the justice department has been defending by the garland justice department. he is an institutionalist, not barr or sessions, but the fact is because of garlands institutional azem, he is shielding people from accountability. he's probably going to fight releasing this report, i hope the new york times winds its requests because history deserve answers. >> i do too, i want to know is in there, gentlemen thank you for leaving us off tonight. clint, join us in the mirror and paul butler, i felt bad for myself i started work at 7 am today, jonathan's been on tv since six, and a quick note, monday night i alone can fix it,
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authors phil recurrent carroll lending will join brian with even more details from their new book. coming up next, more fallout in the stunning new revelation top generals fear a coup in the final days in the trump white house, a coup. later is why republican leader kevin mccarthy paid a visit to the former president in where else? new jersey, doesn't everybody want to go to jersey, in july. the 11th hour is just getting underway on a thursday night don't go anywhere. t go anywhere. do you struggle to fall asleep and stay asleep?
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from the bombshell book i alone
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can fix it, they show the extent to which people in trump's orbit intervened to save him from himself. this time it was white house -- authors phil rocker and carroll reported this, a discussion arose inside the white house about whether the president could perspectively pardon giuliani and trump jr. and perhaps even himself, to eliminate the risk of being charged. he told mark meadows this was a step too far. it would smack and quite possibly constitute obstruction of justice. he wouldn't have any of it. he threatened to resign if the president issued any such pardons. not only that but he said, he and many of his senior lawyers would resign in mass, and then he would hold a news conference announcing their strong objections. the news conference threat was the death knell for the discussion. the white house could not afford to take any more public shaming. here with us tonight is tim miller contributor, and former communications director for jeb
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bush. and susan dell partial, msnbc political analyst, i am so glad you guys are both here, we have to dig into this. did tim, i want to share more from this book particularly what they would do if trump ordered a military action that they viewed as dangerous? where they write, they considered falling on their swords one by one, like a set of dominoes, they concluded they might rat or seriously resigned than execute the order. it was kind of a saturday night massacre in reverse, and informal blockade they would keep in their back pockets if it ever came to that. okay, tim, these guys seem to want revisionist history. they want to be remembered as his as heroes. we lived through it, we know what happened, it was a step too far, but everything else wasn't over the course of four years? is this a little bit like give me a break guys? >> hey, staff, a big upgrade
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here, it's got to see you. it is very much like give me a break. very much give me a break. general milley, i do want to say, we've learned a lot of details, he wasn't a very sensitive situation and being very concerned about what the commander in chief potentially could've ordered them to do, and preparing for that. i do give milley a pass. i think he has demonstrated that he has shown a lot of good judgment over the past few months. he on the other hand, give me a break. let's consider the options he had on the table. he said he was gonna self pardon himself and all his people for the crimes. he could've helped the news conference that he threatened and tell us all about it. he could've backed up a few months, and come out like olivia troye and elizabeth newman and others did. and told people what was happening behind the scenes and warn them and tried to stop a second term, for the men who attempted a slow motion coup. or, he could've done nothing,
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went along with the slow motion coup and after everything was okay told filled rucker and carroll how great he was that is the route that he took i'm not really all that impressed with trump's lawyer who sat in the cockpit there during a slow motion coup attempt that led to an insurrection of the capital, saying that he gave a stern threat in the oval office, i'm not really buying what he selling. >> he just said your full of baloney. susan, what does it say in light of these mountains of new reporting about what went down in the final days, what does that tell you about republican lawmakers that they not only have amnesia but all of that, but they're trying to make all of us forget it? >> yeah, it's really unfortunate. they knew what was happening in realtime, maybe not exactly all
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the reportings that we're seeing but close to it, they knew what president trump was, they knew what his people were up to. look at his cabinet for crying out loud, it was all acting's, it was an acting secretary of defense, an acting attorney general, and actor head of homeland security. everyone knew this administration was unraveling and was dangerous, and not only did they not say anything at that time, but like you just mentioned. they are trying to get people to forget about it. it was real. tim, did a great podcast titled it was worse than we thought. and we thought it was really bad. and now, as everybody comes to light, what i am most disheartened by is how the republicans are not saying a word, or worse, trying to spin it and put out more false information. i read an excerpt from the fill
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rucker and carroll leoning book today and let me tell you reading it, it brought tears to my eyes, when you hear the details of what was happening at the time of the insurrection, and yet i was also so angry how could this all happen? how could these legislators go out there today knowing what happened and say these absurd, ridiculous and dangerous and reckless things? >> did that bring tears to your eyes, or did you have tears in your eyes because republicans are still down with trump despite all of that? luckily you're gonna be with us after the break, susan. susan in tim stick around, we're just getting started. coming up next. exactly what is kevin mccarthy up to, in new jersey i can tell you this he's not visiting me, will be back when the 11th hour continues on the other side of the break. e break. st. or is that the damp weight of self-awareness you now hold in your hands?
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yeah (laugh) keep your downstairs dry with gold bond body powder. >> house republican leader
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kevin mccarthy spent part of the day of trump's house in jersey. and thus far, we don't know for sure whether or not they were discussing the committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. i'm gonna guess they did. public hearings begin on jen june 27th and thus far, mccarthy has not made any republicans. political playbook says mccarthy -- jim jordan and steve scalise,
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steve miller and susan. susan let's be honest, there's no reason for mccarthy to be in my home state of new jersey other than to kiss trump's ring and assure him this committee will not hurt in any way. given that, lead him -- country first and she is legitimate people for this committee because let's remind you, that insurrection was not partisan. they were going after all of our government. >> there is no chance that kevin mccarthy will do the right thing. he has yet to show that he's able to do the right thing. i've now called him kevin mick trump, he's just a trumpster running around. i'm sure that if trump gave him a list of names and said memorize these, this is why one on the committee, and do as i say, and little kevin mick
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trump will do that >> matt lewis would agree. he wrote in the daily beast about mccarthy's visit. he writes, forget kissing the ring, the implicit point is that mccarthy is performative lee looking the bottom of trump's shoes. trump, not mccarthy, is the leader of the republican party. trump can be the 2024 presidential nominee if he wants. or he can be the speaker of the house, assuming republicans take back the house. or he could probably get kevin mccarthy to dress up like little bow peep if he wants he is the master, and when the master summons, you, you go. here's what i do not get. he is the master of? what donald trump is an unemployed guy playing golf in jersey. he loves the white house, he lost the house, he left the senate. kevin mccarthy's actually has a senior role in government. what is donald trump the boss man of? >> well he's this a master of
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ceremonies, he can speak at people's weddings when he wants to, it's a very strong and powerful role. look, kevin mccarthy is the master of nothing. this is what it comes down to. kevin mccarthy decided, after january 6th, that it was more important to him to manage his position within the party and to manage his decision with donald, trump and manage his position with voters, that it actually be a minority leader and do with the purpose of government is. get legislation passed that benefits his constituents. work with the democrats, maybe try to cut a deal so that the democrats don't do liberal things that they want to do on their own devices. that's how goverment works. up until two minutes ago. this is our entire history, this is the first time, these last few years, where one party has decided they are gonna be
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and -- in the commentators on partisan news outlets rather than -- argue for and legislate with and make commitments to that would best benefit the people. none of them voted for the covid package, i was very skeptical of the people in your previous statement, that's not what their incentives are right now. there incited incentives are to be popular with their voters, to be popular on fox, and to be popular with the baron of bedminster. >> yikes. susan, i guess here's my question. the revelations in the new book, everything that we've seen out of republicans over the last few months, none of these things are surprise. this is exactly who donald trump is, and was, republican behavior is not surprising. but what does all of this tell you about the 75 million people who voted for trump and who continue to support him? >> 74!
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74. they like to round staff, we need to round up because he likes to round up. but >> it tells me is that this goes way beyond donald trump and trumpism. this goes almost into an neo-fascism in the grassroots of the republican party since taken county areas. this is a different type of control. if it's not donald trump in two years, it will be somebody else that these people will be following because they are all geared up and they keep moving. that's why kevin mccarthy doesn't do anything, because he's afraid of literally the people on the ground. he knows he can't survive their wrath. and, frankly, that's how a lot of other republican elected officials feel. they have gotten out of the parties that are gotten out of their control and they don't know what to do with it.
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>> but can they spell neo-fascism. thank you both so much, great to see both tonight. coming up, a doctor's take on the new vaccine vic's disinformation pushback, and cases among unvaccinated americans are soaring. why? because they choose to have them soar. they could get vaccinated. could get vaccinated.
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for infectious diseases policy research. here's what i don't get, the people across the country who are getting very sick are unvaccinated, should we be concerned that we're sliding backwards or should we just be pushing everybody to get the dam shots? >> all of the above. i think that we should be concerned that the cases are rising. overseeing is up because the cases are rising, and you're seeing the states that don't have the higher vaccination rates now seeing the burden, the increase burdens of hospitalizations and deaths because that is being carried out among people who are unvaccinated. here's the other concern, you covered disinformation earlier, were facing an increasing other pandemic which is the disinformation, where 50%, 54% of americans either believe in a commonly shared covid miss or
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don't know if it's true or wrong. because of that, those are the most likely people to not get vaccinated. this battle is going to be uphill until we can get more people vaccinated and protected and bring those cases down. >> well then let's talk about motivators that would get people to want to be vaccinated. france announced that anyone who wants to visit cafés, bars or shopping centers, must show a health past to prove they've been vaccinated or recently tested negative, for the virus. when we were reopening here in the u.s. we heard about that. all sorts of businesses said, you do not have to wear a mask if you are fully vaccinated. what happened to that? that was supposed to be the carrot to get a lot of people, especially young people, motivated? you want to get a -- you want to go to a bar, to a ball game, let's get vaccinated. i've seen none of that, except maybe a concert or flight, when
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was the last time you walk into a store and they asked you for your vaccination status? >> stephanie, it has been hard. in the u.s. a mandated adult vaccination has never been successful. we've done it whether it be flu vaccine, or mainsails, all the other vaccine, it's easier to do in those universities and schools. adult vaccination we've had an issue with. when you see is this unfortunate conflict, you have this rising wave of and tie vaccination sentiment that is increasing and now it is converging with this hyper paula ties a shun of the vaccination. my concern is as we move out of this, one of the big things is to de-politicized the vaccination. yes there are places that we could mandate, but one of the ways that we get people to do it is today, if you are
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legislator and you are not out there promoting vaccinations, you are not out there trying to make it easier for people to get vaccinated, you are hurting your own constituents. you're keeping your communities from recovering and so you need to recover back the rhetoric and i think that might help increase that. to your point about the young, service still shows that among the young effects and nations are required for traveler for gatherings, you're more likely to see vaccination rates go up. >> but exactly why is it politicized, that's what i don't understand? it was former president trump's administration that led operation warp speed, operation warp speed is how we ended up with the vaccines. it was truly extraordinary. trump can take credit for that. trump was vaccinated, his entire family was vaccinated. how exactly did this become politicized? did those trump supporters did not realize that he got the vaccine, he helped develop it?
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>> i agree. i want to stress that, what a feat of science that was, to be able to look at where we would've been today -- we're talking about the surges in many of our states, look at where we would've been if the majority of us hadn't been vaccinated. you only have to look at what is happening in the continent of africa, where you're seeing over 1 million new cases in the last month and you're seeing five countries report icu shortages and the vaccines are out of reach for most people. that is the situation we would've been in. today we have the luxury, we have vaccines that are safe. we have vaccines that reduce transmission to other people, we have vaccines that keep you out of the hospital, they keep you from getting hospitalized or dying from this disease. this is a vaccine preventable disease, and all i can say is one way, as the surgeon general talked about, one way you as an
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individual can to help, because we're all trying to do our help in our spaces is that if you got the vaccine, find someone that you trust who hasn't and explain why you got it and explained that you haven't had a reaction and that may help dispel the misinformation and putting a face to the vaccination. >> listen to the misinformation, risk getting really sick. doctor nahid bhadelia, thank you so much for joining us, thank you so much for all you do. coming up an inside look at a new tv network in the uk some are calling fox news with a british accent. when the 11th hour continues we're gonna dip right in. a dip right in this... is what freedom sounds like. and this. this is what freedom smells like. ahhh, enjoy 30 days of open-road freshness. febreze car. conservative news channel of
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culture. the race is the story tonight. >> britain has given america the beatles, james bond, and harry potter. so now be a grateful america is finally returning the favor. we need to kill them >> we need to kill them. with a gift of right-wing punditry. >> how did we wind up with a country in which feminists do science? >> i know note that the information of this program. >> since gb news, so for great britain, it's been called fox news with the british accent. defying britain stuffy -- will just tell me >> it's wrapped up and constructive. >> its first few days were definitely disruptive. welcome >> back to tonight live,
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it is 10 pm. why >> even with the technical gaps, gp's opening rates would rival giants. andrew neil offered a radical new idea for british tv. >> we're not a news channel, nor will we be providing conventional news boltons. >> gb news is about personalities. >> well it's gotten out of had. >> many of these opinions veered toward the right, following the path made by fox. >> what this gesture is -- >> moving on, the duchess of woke -- >> for today's culture warriors, pretty much everything is races these days, even mathematics. yes, mathematics. >> so is this similar to fox news? >> not really, because we are regulated by someone buy off
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calm. and ofcom is going to make sure that you don't show political bison anyway. >> it's a state appointed regulator that usually blocks u.s. punditry. but this year, complaints over covid can fridge. will this week, wolf comes that it would not investigate gb news. ironically, even as the channel builds itself as an anti-cancel country, where -- >> the backlash came strong and fast. it actually came before it started. >> even before it started, what -- because the ideas sounded like fox. several major brands have paused their advertising. >> why is gb news in your crosshairs? >> even months before gb news was launched, it was being
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trailed in the uk media as a fox news style channel. and fox news is notorious worldwide for racism, and misinformation. >> since its first, dazed tv news audience figures have slumped by 48% to 26,000. but they've held on to enough viewers to fight the culture wars. >> we have an audience because they're sick and tired of not being able to talk about how they feel about issues without being canceled. >> well they're not gonna be canceled, they're just about to go on air. matt bradley, thank you. there's more with the 11th hour ahead. stay with us. walk to end alzheimer's is full of them. because flowers find a way to break through. just like we will. join the fight at alz.org/walk
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