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11:00 am up to 400 dollars off her wireless bill! wow! cheer on team usa with xfinity internet. and ask how to save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill when you add xfinity mobile. get started today. it is good to be with you. i'm geoff bennett and as we come on the air, president biden is about to welcome to the oval office angela merkel who is long described as the de facto leader and in the trump administration, she is the defunct leader, and merkel is planning to step down after 16 year, and aides say that they will discuss everything from covid to china to climate change. and this meeting is to project
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stability between europe and the u.s. after trump berated the allies including merkel and threatened to pull out of nato. with that and the backdrop of nato, there are shocking comments attributed to the chief of staff mark milley in a book by "washington post" reporters. in the excerpts from "i, alone can fix it." obtained from nbc news, milley said that listening to trump was like reading orwell's 1884 that evil is good, and good is evil. but it was january 6th, he said, see you in d.c., he wrote to the followers, be there and it will be wild. but milley said that trump was stoking the unrest hoping to evoke the insurrectionist act, and then milley had a head's up from a former defense secretary
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that all ten living secretaries of defense had reached the same conclusion. he saw parallels between trump's rhetoric of election fraud and adolf hitler's insistence at the nuremberg's rally that he was the victim and their savior. and he said, this is the gol pel of the fuhrer, and four days after milley's alarm, we saw what happened on january 6th. we should say that nbc news reached out to spokesperson who declined to comment. and donald trump reached out and said, sorry, but an election is my form of a coupe, and if i were going to do a coupe, the last person i would do it with is general mark milley. and now joining us is shannon
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pettypiece, and former allied supreme commander and msnbc diplomacy analyst, and vox's foreign affairs broadcast anchor, and also, a msnbc analyst, and so, ashley, there is new reporting about what donald trump was doing on january 6th as the reporters laid siege to the capitol, and last night, we got an excerpt from the box from the "washington post" reporters that he was back in his dining room watching television. and the former president had to be convinced or cajoled to tell the supporters to stand down and that is echoing the reporting that was done at the time. >> that is exactly right. some of the reporting was in the "post" and other publications, and in this fantastic new book that delves into it further, but
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in talking to the people in the president's orbit, and initially, he is buoyed by what he viewed as a show of support for him and his baseless claims that the election was stolen. he likes the big crowd, and he likes the fact they were fired up and angry. he said in that tweet, it was going to be wild, and that is what he was hoping for again. that did not necessarily mean violent, but when the violence first started, it took a while for the people around him to convey to him the seriousness, and the urgency of the situation and convince him that this is not an exciting show of support for his presidency or a second term, but that this was an insurrection on the u.s. capitol and that people were threatening to hang his vice president who was loyal to the point of subservience for your years, and that he needed to take action and that not only people would die, and five did that day, but his legacy would be tarnished and he was forced to sending two
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tweets that did not do the job in the view of his aides and putting out a video at 4:17 p.m. that day that helped to kind of move the crowd out along with the national guard being brought in. >> and ashley, there is reporting that pence's staff feared at the time that if pence moved from the capitol, and that if pence was moved somewhere under the pretense of safety that he then could not certify the election, and the reason that is brought up is because tony ornato who is a trump supporter at the time who was a photo-op who organized it, and he was the guy who was responsible for the secret service movements. >> yes, and there is a scene that the vice president basically says a couple of times that he was in the hideaway, and the vice presidential hideaways and steps from the senate floor, and the secret service is trying
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to get him to refuse, and on the third time, it is not a request, but an order, and there is the grainy order of them going down the steps, and he is asked to get into the car, and the vice president and this is one of the few instances where he really defies what the people in the president's orbit want him to do, and he basically says, i am not getting in that car, and i know that if i am getting in that car, you will whisk me away from the car, and i am not going anywhere, because it is my constitutional duty to certify that election results, and he is defiant to say that he would come back, and come back to a different location or secure location, but the symbolism was just as important as the act they were performing, and they would come back to the senate chamber to where the insurrection had begun and they could do this basic task and certify the election results.
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>> admiral stavridis, what is your thoughts of that it was carried out for trump to be anti-democratic, and give us a idea of how significant that was or what these military leaders were facing? >> i would say this is a example of the system worked. here you have these uniformed forced four-star officers and i know every one of them, and mark milley, i know in particular. these are stand-up people, and many of them served under my command in afghanistan. and these are the people that you want to trust with the republic. that was perhaps not quite where we landed, but they discussed it seriously, and i think that if i had been still wearing a uniform and in one of those jobs, i would have as well. so what did they do? if everything that we hear is reported in the book, and here are two professional "washington
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post" reporters, and this is extremely well sourced to say the least, if that is all correct, and he did what i think that we would hope that our senior military would do which is to determine amongst themselves that they would not obey an order that is illegal, immoral, unethical, and a good example would be, hey, military, go out there and martial law and seize the ballot boxes, and they determined not to do that but they came up with a plan, but again the options as a senior military if you find the order to be illegal essentially boiled down to resignation, and making it public, and essentially throwing the ball not only to the american people, but really to the congress at that point. so, again, i think that this is an example of the system working. thank god, it did not get beyond the point that we saw. >> well, to your point, and to the degree that donald trump was
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a walking, talking stress test for small "d" democratic institution, it appears that the u.s. military held the line, but what guardrails should be put in place so that potentially this is not going to happen again, and general milley and his colleagues would not have to make that determination? >> well, the first and important guardrail to pick up a quote from president trump is elections. we need to elect as the american people individuals who will go to the congress and stand for the constitution. we ougt to be thinking consciously as voters. i assure you that the guardrails inside of the active duty military are strong and capable and in place, and it is up to us as voters to find the right kind of leadership in the country to avoid this. and jennifer williams as we talk about donald trump, it is the case that the former president made crude comments about the german chancellor who is at the
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white house right now meeting with president biden, and give us the sense of the tortured history, and the difficult interpersonal relationship between the two of them, and the 180-degree shift that now exists between her and president biden. >> yeah, absolutely. if you remember even on the campaign trail before donald trump was even president, he had critical remarks for the german chancellor, and at one point he said that she should be ashamed of herself for allowing the more than 1 million refugees of syria into her country, and he was quoted in "times" of being very critical of her, and germany in general for all sorts of things. nato in particular was a huge sticking point. he criticized germany for not increasing their defense spending, and for not contributing to nato and not paying their fair share which is
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not necessarily the case depending how you measure it. he is similar to biden and talk about it more, but he rebuked germany's decision to mainstream the pipeline project that would see the gas coming from russia to germany directly, and he basically accused germany to be captive of russia, and so they had a tense relationship, and if you remember that there is a photo of the g-7 meeting in 2017 where merkel is leaning forward and surrounded by other leaders at the g7 and trump is seated with the arms folded and kind of very much striking a defiant pose, and that is really defining the actual relationship that developed between the two leaders who were ostensibly two of the leards of the free world. so, you know, that image really stuck. that is the image that the biden administration is trying to move past and up against of how to
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rebuild those ties with germany, and rebuild that alliance, but there are lots of long-standing issues that preceded, and still continue after trump that they will still have to address tonight. >> and shannon, picking up on that, the administration officials have been consistent in describing the sit down between biden and merkel as a forward looking meeting. so we got the 2:00 warning at the oval office, and so give us a sense of what is on the agenda there. >> geoff, i believe that is her who is pulling past me at the white house, and as much as they are trying to make it forward looking, it is farewell tour. you mentioned the 16 years that she has been in office and this is the fourth u.s. president that she is meeting with. she has been the steady presence among the western alliance, and among the leaders of these countries, and looking forward,
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it is who is going to fill that gap? who is going to take on the roll -- role of all of the tumultuous periods that she has been there and had the steady influence, and of course, a lot of big issues on the table to discuss today and one of them china, and the administration officials say that is going to be a big focus, and germany has a close relationship with china, and they are an important trading partner and they do not want to be caught in the mid of the tug of war between china and the u.s., but at the same time they have many of the same concerns tbt human rights issues and intellectual properties, and what this relationship looks like going forward is who is replacing her and what they are going to build. having her at the white house today meeting with the president reaffirms the u.s.'s commitment to germany going forward and whoever the next chancellor might be. >> yeah, and admiral as we wrap
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up the conversation, i want to bring you into this as part of the nato allied supreme allied leader, and she has outlasted allies at home and abroad. >> yes, this is shannon has it right, and thanks for the memories kind of tour. i know the chancellor well. we are both of the age where we are both of the same height, and we are both 5'6" and we saw things eye to eye and she is the most principled and integrity-driven leader that i dealt with, non-u.s., of course, and i think that germany will face the challenges finding her replacem. -- replacement. and she is like fdr and elected to four terms and stood for the right things, despite the
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challenges and the disagreements that other commentators have said. expect a good meeting. >> and of course, they are meeting at any time, and general stavridis and shannon penny peace -- pennypiece and ashley and jennifer, thank you. and also, an update on larry nasser. and then, scoring the most important meeting to date, the face-to-face with senator joe manchin. ith senator joe manchin.
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two major stories unfolding in the u.s. senate, and first u.s. majority senate chuck schumer needed the deal done and set the floor proceedings on the bipartisan proceedings to hammer out the details for the other massive $3.5 trillion human infrastructure deal by wednesday, and on the other major issue dominating washington voting rights, moments ago, texas democrats wrapped up the meeting with joe manchin of what is day three of the stay in washington, and they need the west virginia's
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democrat's help to pass the voting rights protection and how to get help for him. >> did you press the idea of what you were floating to him about the carve out of the filibuster of what to pass. >> no. >> not at all? >> no, a lot of people have discussed the filibuster with joe manchin, and it is the elephant in the room, and he knows the senate maneuvers. and we will leave the tactics up to him. >> and the house speaker just stripped one of the democrats of his leadership role, and the punishment for leaving the state. and leigh ann caldwell is joining us from capitol hill. and i am sharing garrett's surprise that they got to meeting with senator manchin and they did not bring up the filibuster at all apparently. >> same. but they said that a lot of people were talking to him about
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the filibuster, and so what the texas democrats say they are talking to senator joe manchin about is actual legislation that could potentially pass the senate to restore and ensure voting access at the polls, and something that senator joe manchin has been talking about as the john lewis voting rights act which is a restoration of the 1965 voting rights act that the supreme court gutted years ago and something that senator manchin says that he supports, but there are problems with that, geoff, and including that the house of representatives has not passed that legislation, and has not written the text the of the bill yet, and there is still not 60 votes in the senate for that if it should be brought up in this senate. so while people are talking about legislation and moving this legislation forward, the reality is that, if they don't get the support of ten republicans, then the only
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alternative is eliminating the filibuster, but it is something that joe manchin does not support. he told me yesterday, geoff, he is still working with his republican colleagues to come to some sort of agreement with the voting rights legislation, but it is not something that republicans support, jeff. >> all right. talk about infrastructure, and chuck schumer says that he is going to be moving on this two-track path to get it to work. >> so we will start with this next week and start with the bipartisan $759 billion plan. but the republicans say they won't go along with this by voting on the procedural motions if there is not complete legislative text yet, and they don't have that, geoff. so what they are doing right now as we speak in the capitol is the group of ten, five republicans and five democrats are meeting to try to hammer out
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the final details that we saw the white house top advisers walk into the meeting and we know that the biggest problems continue to be how to pay for that legislation, and both senator schumer says that he is going to start the process, and he says that as far as the 3.5 trillion much bigger human democratic infrastructure bill that he needs agreement from all 50 senators from next wednesday in orderer to start that process. and now, we are watching the moderates again, and senator joe manchin who is at the center of every story with moderates to see if it is something they can support, and today, the center of all of the moderates, and joe tester for one saying they need more details to come out to equivocally support it, and again, how the pay for it is going to be complicated and key, geoff. >> and leigh ann caldwell, i hope that you don't have summer vacation plan, because they have
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a lot of work to do still. >> don't tempt us, geoff. >> all right. i take it back. and the president is calling it a historic effort to end childhood poverty, but what is in the child tax credit and how might it benefit you, and that coming up. >> and then covid cases are on the rise across the country, and new information from the surgeon general that is making it worse. . when technology is easier to use... ♪ barriers don't stand a chance. ♪ that's why we'll stop at nothing to deliver our technology as-a-service. ♪ (piano playing) here we go. ♪♪
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covid cases are rising again in the u.s., and up more than 100% over the last two weeks. and those increases are not just an isolated pockets in the country, but the cases are up in all 50 states, but areas with the low vaccination rates are getting hit the hardest, and new analysis from nbc say that the counties with the highest levels have vaccination rates of lower than 40%. nationwide, the vaccination rate is 50%, and the health officials are getting desperate to get more americans vaccinated, the attorney general issued a warning of the pandemic, and putting lives at risk. i want to bring in dr. ka vita patel who is the white house policy director under president obama, and now msnbc contributor and it is good to have you with
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us. so the question is what more can be done at this point. and it seems that people who are willing to get the vaccine are more than willing to get vaccinated and those who aren't, they won't get the vaccine, and people know the practices, stay three to six feet apart, and have we reached a public health plateau? >> yes, from the generic information or, you know, mask vaccination effort, and we now have to take it individual to individual, and that is tailoring the information and science for that individual. as you are pointing out, and as dr. murthy is doing, is mislabeling the information just like the general surgeon did with tobacco. >> and as many regions are affected by the delta variant, they are using a threat that is existing of a different
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mutation, and a mutation that is potentially, you know, would render the vaccines useless. >> yeah, the threat is very real, and just as a basic mechanism in biology, and geoff, these viruses mutate every day, and all of the time, and it is like when the spike protein is easier to infect, and stay in the body. that is when we worry. but it is inevitable, but geoff, i am learning from years in practice, it is hard to get people to worry about the future, so you have to make it about the here and the now, and the moment they are n and the truth is if you are not vaccinated, you are even more likely to get infected than a year ago, because everybody else who is vaccinated a largely protected. >> i wanted to draw on your experience of policy director under president obama, and you did not deal with information and disinformation now, and any best practices that the biden administration could use to confront what is being kicked
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around on media circles on social media about the vaccine and covid? >> a great point, and vi thought about it, geoff, and we did not have the availability of the sources of information and one thing that we learned and not just with the west nile virus, and h1n1, but teaching people of why health care access mattered and taking it to grass roots level, and nothing can replace, and let me say again, nothing can replace the trusted people in your family and streets, and shame and blame gets us nowhere. but telling people they are wrong, and they don't know what they are talking about is something that we learned the hard way does not help you to win the hearts and minds, and you have to literally do it with facts, and sort of being empathetic to their situation, and what they are going through, and why they feel the way they
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do and the sources of the information, and that lesson does cross over generations, and it is true. >> dr. kavita patel, thank you. and meanwhile, millions of families are getting a boost receiving up to $300 a child in the family, because of the expanded child house credit. a whopping $15 billion paid out to families will covering 16 million eligible children. earlier today, president biden and vice president harris spoke about how these payments will make a difference. >> the impact of this child tax credit will undoubtedly be generational, and indeed, the largest middle-class tax cut in generations, and it is going to lift up half of our nation's children who are living in poverty out of poverty. >> it is one of the largest ever single tax cuts for families with children, and it is the reflection of our belief that the people in this country who
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need a tax cut are not the folks at the top, they have plenty of tax cuts, and they are fine. but it is the folks in the middle who are looking for what a little bit of as my dad would say, a little bit of breathing room. >> and as i want to bring in robin who is host of the podcast of explaining how this all works. >> if you have a child under 18, there is a good chance that the bank deposit will hit the bank account today. this is a popular plan that in recent years you find out with the cpa or the h & r block or whatever you are using online that you are eligible. and right now, it is either $3,000 or $3600 broken up to hit
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your account $300 a month to help you with your children. if you are 0-6, you get up to $300, and 6-12 it is $500, and it is back to school shopping, and you have heard millions of kids in poverty out of poverty. >> set aside the poverty, and talk about the politics, because the senate is divided 50/50 and the democrats are going to fight for more senate seats by emphasiing these programs, and this is a kitchen table issue. >> and a rose by any other name, and others would call it universal basic income, and take it twice removed from socialism, and we are experimenting with
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it, and whether it is the extraordinary financial aid unemployment benefits that run out by september, and millions of people in the economy have gotten the taste of not having to hustle to make ends meet, and we have seen other statistics that overwhelmingly other people cannot afford rent in the sector, so this is only meant to last for 2021, and the democrats have the narrowest of the majorities including vice president harris with the gavel in the senate, and it is going to be hard to wrest this away from people who take it for granted that the checks are headed every month. therein is the experiment and the political rub. >> we are told one minute warning of the video of the president and angela merkel. you work in radio, so you can take a good time crew. and for many of americans, that money was sitting in the bank
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accounts. and what is the expected benefit of these tax credits, will they spend it or save it? >> i think that you will see it spent. parents are trying to make ends meet with day care and don't know if school is going to be in day care, and maybe half of the amount of the kids are in deep poverty, and you will see how it is playing out in grocery stores and plays out with apparel. >> as you mentioned, this is huge, because it is going to pull the kids out of poverty says the biden administration. >> yes, and if that is indeed what happens, it is going to be brutally difficult to take it down when and if the democrats don't have a majority, and something like this could parlay a crisis into something that is far lasting. >> and thank you, roben faraz.
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we will go to the oval office where the president and chancellor merkel are making remarks. >> it is a pleasure to welcome back angela merkel, and she has been a great friend. i call her a great personal friend and friend of the united states. we saw her at the g7 and then at the nato meeting and then today, talking about advancing the german and u.s. relationships. it has been strong, and getting stronger. we have a full agenda ahead of us, and we will be meeting for a while, and bring in some of the key staff, and one of the things they want to talk about is the enduring friendship that the chancellor has been so responsible for nailing down, and making sure that it continues. we are ready to dive in with the
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cooperation between the united states and germany has been strong, and we hope to continue that, and i am confident that we will. >> and mr. president, and joe biden, and -- [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: well, thank you, mr. president, for the invitation, and it is true that we met at the g7 and also at the nato meeting and now we have an
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opportunity to talk more of the bilateral relationship, and the relationship between germany and america. obviously always in the context of european matters and we can also talk about how to address matters that relate to neighbors and the political issues that is going to be on the agendament i'd like to say here how much i value the friendship with the united states of america. i'm more than aware of the contribution of america to a free and democratic germany, so i am very much looking forward to the deepening of the relations yet again through our talks today, and i think that we will be able to elaborate more on that as we go. >> thank you. >> mr. president, mr. president -- >> thank you. >> we will have plenty of time to answer the questions in a few moments. >> thank you, let's go -- thank you -- and in fact, president biden
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and in that time he abused more than 70 young athletes, and the report also lists a maddening string of investigations delaying justice for the hundreds of women who have accused nassar of abuse. stephanie gosk has been following this for years and gives this report. >> reporter: the scathing report outlines a string of failures by the fbi including at first not handling the allegations with utmost seriously and urgency they deserved. when usa gymnastics told the field office that multiple gymnasts had made allegation, and that he had lost his job as the team doctor. but the field office conducted limited follow-up and one phone interview and not properly reviewing information in the case. one of the gymnast's mothers
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told savannah about how frustrated she was. >> i reported it over a year ago and you are the only person from any form of law enforcement who has called me and i said, when did you get this assignment, and he told me yesterday. >> reporter: while the information lagged, he kept his job at michigan state university and a top gymnastics club continuing to abuse minors in his care. in the statement, the fbi calls the report appalling, and that the actions and inactions of bureau employees described are inexcusable and a discredit to the organization, and the agency is taking steps to improve and insure that failures don't happen again. nassar is serving a life sentence for pornography and abuse and claims from ay
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raisman and simone biles who recently opened up in a docuseries of "simone versus herself." >> i was super depressed and i was in my room and i kind of shut everybody out. i don't know, it was kind of probably hard for me. >> and again, i want to bring in larissa boyce who first reported to her coach that nassar abused her more than a decade before he was put behind bars and i thank you for speaking to us. what was your initial reaction when you learned about the findings of this attorney general's report? >> disgusted. it is unacceptable. i actually was not surprised unfortunately, because i feel like there have been so many different cover-ups, and people not coming to the terms and truth of what had happened and
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how things were covered up. so it did not surprise me, but it also made me furious. >> when you tried to report nassar back to 1997 to your coach kathy clagus who is the former michigan state gymnastics coach, what did she tell you? >> she said that she was misunderstanding what was happening, and that he was best doctor in the world and that he would not do anything inappropriate, and that she could file something, but it would cause a lot of problems for me. >> and how did that make you feel? >> i wanted to crawl into a hole and die. i never wanted to talk about it ever again, and the hardest part was that instead of telling my parents, she told nassar what
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had happen and then he confronted me about it. so i never wanted to talk about a it -- and so i never wanted to talk about a it again. >> i am sorry you experienced that. in nbc, it said that it never should have founded and the findings are a discredit to this organization, and they have said that those who have been found of misconduct no longer work fbi matter. given girls who were put in harm's way, what do you want to see from the fbi now? >> i want to see the agents held accountable. i want to see justice brought for over the 100 girls who were abused between july 2015 and august 2016. and the girls who were assaulted who could have been stopped by the agents who could have done the right thing and didn't file a report, and they had
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handwritten documents and i believe that criminal charges need to be filed against them in a criminal investigation that should happen. these girls, these over 100 girls who were assaulted within this time frame, they have to live with the trauma of the assault for the rest of their lives, and they have a life sentence of dealing with it. and while this is happening, conducted. and all the while, larry nasser continued working and continued allegedly abusing more women. should u.s. gymnastics bear more responsibility? >> absolutely. absolutely. they should have never told the girls not to talk about it. they should have made sure that the fbi had followed up right away. and if if not, they should have
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contacted another investigative police department or something. they should have gone to the a.g.'s office. it should never have let it it is sit as long as they d. >> larisa boyce, i appreciate your time this afternoon. >> thank you. >> next, britney spears scores a legal victory in her fight to regain control of her personal and professional life. f her perl and professional life.
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brit my nears may be turning corner. she was able to choose her own attorney to represent her. and she continued to lash out at her father, jamie spears, telling the court she wanted hum to be investigated for
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conservatorship abuse. jamie spears' lawyer said that there had been a number of misstatements about the case and there was no basis for him to step down. >> i want to bring in our legal contributor katie fang. how significant it is that britney spears got the new lawyer and what happens now? >> well, it's significant was tuesday her own lawyer. it's not a court apounted attorney. she now has an attorney of her own selection that can be her voice in court. but along that line, we're fascinated to hear from britney spears herself. a lot of us in the public had this total speculation in terms of how is she doing? jeff, this was supposed to be a temporary conservatorship. this was done in 2008. the idea was as with most conservatorships, let's put somebody in place to govern your finances or your own person,
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literally what goes in her body. she's not allowed to drink coffee or remove an iud. she is not allowed to figure out what she does to her own body. but this is supposed to be a temporary move back in 2008. the fact she is now hired what we know a bulldog of a litigator he is, matthew rosenguard, it bodes well for her. she has somebody that can go to court and now heard yesterday in court from her new lawyer that he's going to move to terminate this conservatorship. he's going go to an evidentiary hearing and going to present evidence to the court that she has been "restored to the capacity to be able to live her own life." >> so what about spears' allegations against her father? i mean, you know, what kind of investigation could could he face? >> you can look at how did he manage the finances? how much money was he taking out of her pocket to be able to serve as the co-conservator in
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this indicates? as the conservator over a person, you have the duty to be loyal to take care of them to make sure that you're not wasting their assets. if it comes out later was using britney spears' money that she earns through going out and doing her performances from record sales and royalties and use herd money to basically fleece his own pocket, he could be looking at not only civil liability but also criminal expo sure for his actions. >> katie, how quickly can this all wrap up do you think? are we looking at another year or two of potentially britney spears and this conservatorship that's moves through the courts? >> that's a great question. you got to be strategic about this. if you have enough evidence through the course of the medical records on behalf of britney spears you think is sufficient to present it to the court, if i'm matthew rosenguard, i file that motion immediately. i try to get that special hearing set so that i can present that evidence to judge penny. however, if i think that maybe
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britney needs a little bit more positive build that ok, then maybe i try to push it off a little bit later. of we keep hearing more from her herself. she says i want to end this conservatorship abuse. i want to be able to be my own person again. she makes millions of dollars and is it to possibly line her own father's pocket? we'll have to see. thank you, katie fang. that will do it for us this hour. ayman mohyeldin picks up next hour of msnbc reports. c reports. ♪ ♪ when technology is easier to use... ♪ barriers don't stand a chance. ♪ that's why we'll stop at nothing to deliver our technology as-a-service. ♪
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