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humanitarian relief to send one of our great hospital ships to cuba immediately. the u.s. naval hospital as a mercy anchor off havana, where cubans can see it, ready to help and then let the cuban dictatorship make its decision whether mercy's medicine can be delivered to the cuban people. that is tonight's last word. is tonight's last word. >> well, good evening once again, day 174 of the biden administration on top of all of his efforts to hold his domestic agenda together and to hold his own party together for that matter. this is the eve of a major speech the president will deliver tomorrow in philadelphia. he will go there to talk about voting rights at a time when republicans are doggedly passing voters suppression measures from coast to coast. >> we don't accept the notion and he's an optimist by nature otherwise he wouldn't be sitting in the oval office by now that it's dead.
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we don't accept that and there needs to be a path forward. the president sees his role is someone who can speak for the need for moving forward on voting rights legislation. >> president speech comes as most of the democrats in the texas house of representatives have fled texas and flown to washington, leaving texas. leaving their legislative chamber without a quorum was the last best thing they thought they could do to preserve voting rights there and try to defeat the republican voter suppression bill. they last walked out, you will recall, back in may. last night they landed in washington will they planned a lobby of democrats in the senate to pass a voting rights law. in fact some of those in the party of these committed texas democrats might shame them into showing a little spine. >> one other place would be go where we can actually seek some relief? we're still working on behalf of the state of texas. this isn't a vacation
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whatsoever and we're away from those who are in charge here ino d.c., the democratic leadership push through something that is good. >> earlier tonight, to, u.s. senators of different sides of the aisle reacted to the texas democrats latest move. >> i'm unsure why they're coming here other than for publicity purposes. like i said, it's just a stunt. >> you know, the other choices to pretend this is okay. this is not okay to take away people's right to vote and make it hard for people to vote. >> at the white house this afternoon, the topic was a spike in gun violence across our country as the president and attorney general garland
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met with local and federal officials to talk strategy. it was also candidly an opportunity for joe biden to put some distance between himself and the defund the police movement within his own party. among the officials present, eric adams the former and ypg captain. likely the next mayor of new york city. >> it's time to talk to the underlying causes of violence in the city. we need to put together real plans in new york city to go after gun old child that was assassinated. a ten year old child that was shot. these parents aren't looking for relief right now. >> meanwhile, and on the crime front, the justice department has released new body cam footage from january the 6th. video shows violent hand to hand combat as law enforcement officers tried to defend that building in all those inside. in the usual warning here, like all the images from that day,
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it's graphic and violence. >> [noise] [noise] [noise] >> then there was the interview that the former president kept a fox news over the weekend and while we play you his comments, the staff of the many hassan show on peacock took the liberty of adding the pictures of that day to donald trump's fantasy orwellian description of the crowd that day. >> there was such love at that rally and they were peaceful people. they were good people. the crowd was unbelievable and
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i remember the word love. the love in the air, i've never seen anything like it. you have people with no guns that walk down and frankly the doors were open but there was also a love fest between the capitol police and the people that walk down the capitol. people who walked with no guns, no nothing. and they're tremendous in many cases. tremendous people. tremendous people. >>, the new york times finds six months after the one sixth riot, the u.s. capitol police force is in crisis. and d.c. news reports the justice department is struggling with the volume of evidence as it prosecutes would appears to be the largest single criminal case in the nation's history meanwhile there's another signed the nation's war and afghanistan is almost over. and a symbolic and to the 20-year conflict of the
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commander of the u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan, u.s. army general scott miller stepped down today. over 90% of all u.s. troops and military equipment are already out of the country. we're also following an important development tonight late into the pandemic. the fda has now placed a warning on the j&j vaccine over a rare neurological condition. we'll have more on this story just ahead. and with that, let's bring in our lead off guest for the week on this monday night. peter baker, the veteran journalist and author whose chief white house correspondent for the new york times. julie pace, washington your piece and managing editor for the associated press. and victoria defrancesco, assistant dean at the lbj school of public affairs at the university of texas in austin. professor, indeed, given the urgency of this texas matter i'd like to begin with you. but let's begin by listening to
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and playing for our audience the comments tonight of your governor. we'll discuss on the other side. >> they're quitters. that is not the way that texans do things. this is not over. i will continue calling special session after special session because overtime, it's going to continue until they step up to vote. once they step back into the state of texas, they will be arrested and brought to the texas capitol and we will be conducting business. >> some professor, i wouldn't be the first to observe that it's evidently okay to leave texas if you're a texas politician if you have a little weekly bag in a boarding pass that says cancun. others have made that point tonight on social media. i will ask you this, what can texas democrats teach senate democrats in washington perhaps? >> it's bringing the issue here at home in texas in terms of restricting voting rights over
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the last decade have been inherent in texas. they're taking, it bryant, literally to the doorstep of president biden. i think it's the last couple of months as we've seen all of these voting restriction bills across the country buried their way through the political system. we've kept them in a way separate from what's been going on in washington. or would it rather the lack of what it's happening. but we saw the confluence of what is happening in a different state capitals across the country and what needs to happen at the federal level. and whether we like it or not, what's happening at our state level is intertwined with the federal level. and no other moment has the fact that the protections of section four and section five of the voting right act being gone as of this moment. but i do think there is a positive bent here. i think, at the end of the day. the republicans in texas to have the upper hand. and governor abbott is going to
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get something he wants out the door. but keep in mind that ten years ago today, the democrats had such a small number that they could've all left and the republicans could still pass whatever they wanted. so the fact that now that the republicans don't have the super majority, democrats have made up in terms of numbers slowly but surely isn't long term when. and they're losing a couple of battles but in the long term, the way texas voters are trending is a positive for democrats here in the state. >> great point about the slow decade long change in the state house. peter baker, on the topic of voting rights, the democratic party base is getting restless. with this joe biden possibly have to say to them? >> well i think the fact that
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he is saying anything for them is part of his reaction to the fact that he's getting pressure from the left. the progressives of the party are frustrated and they want to lean on democrats in the senate to pass voting rights legislation there. remember, they're complaining about the filibuster but the truth is if they got rid of the filibuster tomorrow, they don't have the votes to pass it. they don't have all 50 democrats on board. senator manchin in particular, senator sinema expressed reservations about doing anything on voting rights without a bipartisan consensus. what you're gonna see is the president is reaching out to his base saying, i get it, i agree. this is important. but the question is what he can do to actually change the votes. and unless he's willing to put more pressure on some of these democrats, he's there is no clear path forward to getting this legislation passed. >> and julie, it is kind of bracing to hear a texas lawmaker who has put her career on the line in this effort to
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kind of matter-of-factly run through democratic control of the white house, house, and senate. and she wonders why there isn't more movement. talk about, based on your reporting, just how and see the bases getting. >> well, this is the great frustration of the democratic base right now. they look to washington and they say we have the white house. we have control of the senate. we have control of the house. why is it so difficult for us to act on our priorities? the problem is that democratic coalition has gotten that majority across town here is quite diverse and you don't have unanimity of opinion and voting is just one of those issues in this coalition here so it expands to pretty much anything joe biden wants to do here. and so this challenge going forward is going to try to really make this a priority. he's gonna try to put pressure on democratic senators to get a bill across the finish line.
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how does he keep far left of his party at the center of his party together? that is proven to be a pretty big challenge. he's had some early successes when it comes to a fiscal policy and hoping for success on infrastructure, but voting remains i think a very difficult issue for him to keep that party together. and that is going to continue to be huge source of frustration for progressives. >> professor, the noted republican bill crystal of all people said on social media tonight wanting biden to get more aggressive on such matters. why isn't he giving this speech in austin? it strikes me that we have a great opportunity to ask a texan, where are the people of texas on these moves proposed by the republicans that viewed through just about any prism equal voter suppression? >> so, not surprisingly we see quite a divide based on
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partisanship. i think in june, the university of texas this tribune did a poll and it shows that republicans in the state, registered republicans, want to see stricter voting laws. so governor abbott, falin, they're doing with the base wants them to do. but the kick is the same registered republican voters acknowledge that there is not widespread fraud fraud. they disagree with that. our attorney general said that this past election was one of the most secure elections at the state of texas had ever had. nevertheless, for the republican party these issues of voting are at the top of the ticket and let me just add some political context because policy is developed in politics. and governor abbott is up for reelection next year. he has drawn two candidates to the right of him. allen west and another one for
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a party caucus. so he knows that he needs to keep running right and also put it out there that there is a lot of talk here in austin texas about the aspirations of governor abbott. so all of those together with the base values is where we are where we are. >> peter baker, we heard from one donald trump all weekend. well tonight, we heard from one george conway. will play that and discuss afterwards. >> as mitch mcconnell said in his floor speech on february 13th, trump loved this. he loves what happened on january six because it's all about him. these people were fighting for him and fighting against democracy and free elections to be sure. but they were fighting for him and that's where he cares about and he's gone right back to that. he's continuing to lie about the election, the crowd size.
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he is now back. there's no remorse and there was never any remorse. he's on the loose now. he's created basically this cultish adherence to the big lie. >> so peter baker, the question is once again having watched that gathering out at cpac for lack of any other leadership, for lack of a better definition, is this the republican party now? >> it is. it's trump's republican party. the moment he remains this popular with his base as any other republican who's out there and obviously there are a number with the party if you were to withdraw or pull back or perhaps some competition it would be hard to see anyone challenging him so as long as they're defining terms of the
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party, the thing he's making is the terms it wasn't an insurrection. it was just a love fest between the police and wellmeaning protesters who simply were outraged at an unfair election that he lost. he doesn't want to admit that he lost. he's forcing republicans to either agree with him or keep silence. or in the case of a very few republicans, speak out against him with the party and so it continues to be donald trump's party easing the parameters for. >> julie pace, you get the last word. i think there's widespread agreement among most that the phrase, defund the police, was the most toxic in modern day politics and of course that toxicity washes up on one party and one alone. joe biden anxious to rid his party of that label. and along comes a guy like eric
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adams. former and ypg captain, former republican for that matter. the apparent next mayor of the city of new york. do we expect to see more advance like this and perhaps more appearances like eric outcomes? >> i think that eric adams is exactly that kind of democrat that joe biden wants by his side when he's talking about -- when you talk about democrats coming out of the election, particularly moderates who are in suburban swing districts, they will argue that defund the police label hurt the more than anything. and they're really worried going into next year's midterm elections. particularly given the spike we have seen and the crime rate in some parts of this country that that could cause them to lose their majority here. so joe biden himself is in a much stronger pace than other democrats and it will keep him up on -- he'll wrap his arms around people like eric adams both,
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from a policy perspective in trying to look for a solution to some of these crime problems that were happening. but also, from a political perspective to try to make clear to voters and to swing voters and democrats are not party that is out looking to try to defund the police. >> we are so thankful for our starting lineup this monday night, julie pace, victoria defrancesco soto, think you all for coming on. coming up for us, what you need to know about booster shots. this is all the conversation as new virus cases surge across our country. one of our top as physicians talking with us later. and strong words from a democratic lawmaker about the former president's most recent set of blatant lies about the election. but a lot of democrats think it's gonna take more than strong words to protect our democracy. all of it as the 11th hour is just getting underway on this return of the work week, monday night. monda night.
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a surge in cases and now there are questions over the need for booster shots. tonight, pfizer said i had a productive meeting with the feds about the company's plans to request emergency use approval for a third dose of the vaccine. shortly afterward, hhs spokesperson told nbc news, quote, at this time fully vaccinated americans do not need a booster shot. back with us tonight, thankfully, is doctor kavita patel, former policy aide during the obama administration. she is, for good reason, one of our public health experts. she is a nonresident fellow at brookings. so doctor, i will ask it this way. if the delta variant is not breaking through, why all this talk about boosters? >> yeah, brighton. it's a great question. i think the purpose of the boosters is really to help supplements our him union
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response and it's getting confusing here because pfizer is coming out with her announcement last week that it really did imply that it had to have boosters. all americans did. i think if you really just paused to look at the data and that's with the u.s. officials did, even looking at israeli data and other countries you see that select populations, brian, do you need a boost at some point. and let's say anywhere from 6 to 12 months after the first doses. those are primarily the 5% of americans who have immunocompromised addition. or have organ transplant. and we're looking at elderly populations. france, the uk, and israel are moving ahead with these boosters. the same dose that they got in the first and second, but a third dose for those special populations and high risk workers. i think that's what a lot of the context was so there's no data to support that the
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majority of americans who perceive vaccines do not develop sufficient immunity to deal with the delta variant. and i think that that's really the bottom line. >> and let me ask you about three letters there are the coin of your realm. eu, am urgency use authorization. as you know, a lot of the anti-vaxxers, some of them sadly sitting members of congress, are saying that the vaccines we have haven't been approved by the fda. only for emergency use. this is telling the vaccination effort in some places. people are buying into the misinformation. is there any move to get the government to move to give the stamp of approval to vaccines that are in, what's? over 2 million arms? >> yes. it's a great question. and we know that pfizer put in for their approval. the application for full approval and early april.
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you can bet, brian and confirmed that the fda is looking at everything but also takes the process very seriously because just as people that have argued that emergency use authorization was rushed, unquote, you could make an argument that if the approval is rushed that you would also give very little confidence to with the agency is doing so the world is really turning to the fda in so many ways including to see what it does with data and it's approvals and so i don't think there's any reason to rush it. having said, that i do expect to see approval for pfizer and then possibly other remaining factors to follow as early as the end of august, early september. not in time for necessarily dealing with the fact that we've got rising cases, especially among unvaccinated people. we need people to get vaccinated now. >> final question. unfair of me, but nothing scares you. give me the 62nd version of
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what this j&j warning today was all about. >> yeah. very briefly. -- syndrome. something we see an eight and 100,000 americans over the age of 50. we do see a pattern and 100 cases ryan in 1200 doses administered. it's a fancy term for a acute paralysis and sudden onset. auto immune. it's your own immune system attacking your nerves. that's why a warning is appropriate, but within two weeks of getting the shot and if you're after that two week period especially if you are men over 50, you are by a large safe. this is the right thing to do. this is proof that our process is working. >> as always, our thanks for doing such a forthright job in answering our questions. our guest tonight once again has been dr. kavita patel.
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. we took a stand, and we left the state of texas because that was the best and right thing to do at the time. >> i'm tired of sitting is a
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hostage, in the house of texas representatives while republican strip away the rights of my constituents to vote. >> we have courage, conviction, and a little bit of defiance. we are here today to rally the nation, and we hope that the u.s. senate will hear us. >> texas democrats arriving in washington tonight, under their governors new threat of arrest in their latest attempt to defend voting rights in their state, and law before a federal law that would do just that. with voting rights legislation stalled in congress, presidents giving a major speech on the issue tomorrow. on his coming speech, the new york times puts it this way.
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back again with us don calloway, democratic strategists founder of the democratic protection son. and matt kaye, louis senior columnist for the daily beast. gentlemen, good evening to you both. don, i'm gonna serve you the kind of pitch they throw at tonight's home run derby. what can senate democrats learned from texas democrats? >> the first thing is senate democrats have to learn how to show up and make some noise and disrupt proceedings. it's very difficult to understand, as members of the majority, why the senate democrats have not shut down joe manchin and christian cinema with all the multitude of tools in the tool box procedurally that chuck schumer, and even our president, have at their disposal. either way, if they are not willing to do that, the people who are on the left and, the people who are wanting to protect voting rights and see action on some of these pivotal
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issues, have got to be willing to disrupt proceedings. if i were cory booker, if i were any number of leftist democratic senators, i would be intentionally filibustering everything until substitute voting rights legislation comes to the floor. and they have the right to hold up the proceedings, just as the naysayers have to hold the proceedings either like the mentions and cinemas, or on the right. first of all, we have to have the courage to use the actual power we have, and even though we know it's just a waiting game, the texas house democrats what they've done is disrupted proceedings, they brought national proceedings to a cause and i am thankful for it. >> i know you can enumerated the exceptions to this rule, but that's agree that the rule is that republicans in increasing numbers of states, brazenly, and publicly, are passing laws that at the end of the day restrict the vote. are you surprised in the zeal
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of this effort even though we are having this conversation in the post-truth era in the trump era? >> this actually reminds me of a throwback to a bygone era. that's kind of the problem. i feel like republicans are worried about voter integrity, which is not a bad thing to worry about, but it's an onset clue. we don't really have a problem with voter integrity, we don't really have a problem with elections being stolen. i think democrats are concerned with ballot access, and i also think this is overblown. like in texas, i mean, the reports i'm reading, it seems like the big sticking points, i'm sure there is more, but the big sticking points are like, should there be 24-hour voting? should there be drive-through voting? those are legitimate questions. those are le
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in the year of covid, certainly, you know, it was reasonable to have those reforms. should they be year in and year out? i think that's up to texas. i think it's easy to say no, we don't necessarily need to have that. but i think both sides, republicans who are focused on voter integrity, democrats who were focused pretty much primarily on voter access, are really missing what i think the big problem is. and the big problem, actually is, a fear that you could have state legislatures that would refuse to certify elections, that would decide to send a different slate of delegates than the one that folks and any given state would vote for. i don't really see anyone talking that much about it. democrats are, i think, talking about something to rile up their base and motivate their
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base. it's a legitimate point they are making, i just don't think it's the biggest problem we confront in an era where like, we are gonna have a presidential election in a few years, and i am not sure we are fixing the things that might have allowed donald trump to actually overthrow the election. >> don, i have a minute left in the segment, but this is your life's work, so i want to hear you out. >> matt, i much respect my brother, but you couldn't be more wrong. ballot box at -- access, and clearly expansion of the franchise and access to the ballot box is the whole grain for democrats, by no means is that being overblown. since 2013, shelby county versus holder, republicans have inched away and restricted bella box voting by state by state basis. by no means are democrats over blowing that concern here. there are so many ways that ballot box access has been restricted, and democrats have to file an aggressive expansion
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agenda which unfortunately are not doing, but we can talk about that more in the next segment. >> both of these gentlemen staying with us through the aforementioned break. when we come back, more on the big cpac conference. which has become the kind of anti-vax, big lie, jamboree. they even heard from the originator of the big lie. ator of the big lie. medication do more to lower your heart risk? jardiance can reduce the risk of cardiovascular death for adults who also have known heart disease. so, it could help save your life from a heart attack or stroke. and jardiance lowers a1c. jardiance can cause serious side effects including dehydration, genital yeast or urinary tract infections, and sudden kidney problems. ketoacidosis is a serious side effect that may be fatal. a rare but life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this bacterial infection, ketoacidosis or an allergic reaction, and don't take it if you're on dialysis or have severe kidney problems.
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there is so much evidence. >> on those very election lies, the former president keeps talking about, here's the response from one of -- >> his speech is dangerous, it's sickening, frankly. even more traveling are all those around him elected leaders, and now many in his base, who are complicit in these lies. >> still with us, our guests on callaway, and matt kaye lewis. matt, i will lead this segment was something you wrote in the daily beast. democracy works best and we have two same centrist parties. right now, we have one half of one party that fits this description. therefore, it's and everybody's best interest to encourage democrats to relate in a bit, to save themselves, and to help the gop recover from the cancer that elected trump. matt, folks at home watching
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who may think the democrats are way too sane, way too centered, they probably want to know what you mean by religion. >> yeah. so, as you know, i have been a big trump critic, but i think that, look. joe biden won the election. bernie sanders didn't win the election, and there was actually a survey, i guess last week, that demonstrated that it actually was white men, believe it or not, that most likely was the difference in electing joe biden. he didn't win the white male vote, but he lost them by a smaller percentage than hillary clinton. and so, it wasn't so much juicing the democratic base that put joe biden over the top,
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it was in appeal to constituency that normally would be considered a republican or conservative constituency. this is according to the peel, maybe the pale is wrong. the point is, joe biden was able to win the presidency, and i feel like the talk about things like defunding the police, for example, it is a bad idea. that is the kind of rhetoric that i think, probably needs to be tone down if democrats want to continue to win. >> don callaway, hear smile says i get to talk a bit of time for a rebuttal. >> again, much respect man, i know you are quoting the pupil there, but i don't know how we can say white man made the difference in electing joe biden, and 93% of black women,
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90% black, man and we always, even if it's, few find a way to credit white men -- and it wasn't the case this time. when we call for the democratic party debris lydon, i'm assuming we're talking about leftist have put the democratic party put do in your piece. what are they supposed to do? the supreme court and stalled us for generations now justice delayed is justice denied. while i don't agree with anything on the leftist ring of my party, i certainly respect and applaud the zeal with which they are trying to move toward a more perfect union, a more just nation, that gives an opportunity for everybody. what are we talking about when we say we want to reel it in? what part of an inclusive, just, fair agenda, should be relegated to the backseat? should we asked to, no, slow down. we don't need police reform, gun reform, action on climate change. i don't know what part we can
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legitimately call on leftist democrats to slow down. i don't see any part of their agenda which is a, and reasonable, or be, not trying to push us all towards more unjust and inclusive, wholesome, loving society for everybody. we always get these, it would be more reasonable for all of us to just slow down, and that never really holds republicans responsible for embracing abroad white supremacist ideology which elected donald trump to begin with. >> i would say first -- >> matt, i can give you a few seconds, then i gotta go to a break. >> okay. so, one thing i would say is, i would totally give the african american community a ton of credit. they may joe biden the nominee, and i think that was the right move. >> i understand that. >> it was both politically the right move, and i think it was also substantively the right move. if it wasn't for joe clobber, you would probably have donald
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trump, and according to this pew survey -- and also my piece was premised on a blog post by kevin jerome who was a progressive, he was and mothers joan, he cited data that actually, the left has -- he said, stoke the cultural war by moving further to the left, believe it or not, in the last 20 years than republicans and move to the right. which i found interesting. >> reasonable people can disagree. the rest of us can merely end this segment by saying, go hornets. delaware state on the board tonight, and thanks to our guest on callaway, matt kaye lewis as well. thank you gentlemen both you for coming on. coming up for us, why you are about to hear a lot about cuba, where protests rarely hit the streets, but they have now. big change could be a foot, 90
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of cuban police patrolling the police of havana today, after anti-government protests erupted in cuba for the first time in decades. it says a lot about the government that they've turned off the internet, the reasons for the revolt are obvious, lines for everything from food, to vaccines, while cases are spiking, and add to that, regular blackouts, very little tourism money, and a poor quality of life overall. and has become a simply too much for some cubans. our report tonight for a two foreign affairs reporter andrea mitchell. [noise] thousands of demonstrators in the streets of cuba this weekend, calling for an end to the 62 year communist regime. [applause] >> chance of we want freedom echoing through the
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streets. protesters dumping trash and throwing rocks, demonstration led by -- and blackouts. in miami, protests in solitary in havana. >> we've been waiting for change for so long. >> maria figueroa has family in cuba. i don't even know what their situation is right now. >> an economic crisis exasperated by the pandemic, and no access to approved covid vaccines. a perfect storm for anti regime anger that spread rapidly and more keep interest gently gained access to the internet. even the president today is blaming this on u.s. sanctions. >> >> [interpreter] lack of food -- what is the origin? >> they are simply not hearing the voices and will of the cuban people. people deeply, the plea, deeply
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tired of the recession. >> president obama -- removed it from the states list of terrorism. but the trump administration added to the list, and biden has still not lifted those tougher sanctions. >> -- violence and attempts to serve for the voiceless. >> so far biden has been much tougher on cuba than present obama was. a senior official telling and d.c. news, when people protest for human, writes the administration will stand with them. brian? >> andrew mitchell, our thanks for that report tonight. coming up for us, and after the break, how could anyone have predicted 25 years ago, the kind of nation we have become today, well, and helps that he was really smart. smart
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is a new appreciation of carl say again, that so many people find a way overdue. armed with four degrees from the university of chicago, try that near spare time, seguin was an astronomer, scientists, astrophysicist, a genuine republican intellectual he taught at harvard and cornell, and was ahead of his time almost by definition. jason johnson called our attention to this clip on social media today, here is carl seguin on johnny carson, calling out a new movie called star wars for its faulty assumptions and lack of diversity. >> star wars starts out saying it's on some other galaxy, then you see there is people and it seems that it's starting and seen wonders a problem with this because human beings are the result of a unique evolutionary sequence based upon so many individual unlikely random events on earth. most evolutionary biologist agree that if you start out the
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earth again and let those operate you might end up with things that are as more as ethical as us but they would not be human beings. that's with the, earth and of the environment, another planet, . >> are you saying on another galaxy it's not possible that there could be? >> extremely unlikely that there would be creatures as similar to us as the dominant ones. a whole bunch of things, they are all white. the skin of all the humans, in star wars, largely enough, is like this. >> right. >> not even the other colors represented on the earth, our president. much less the greens, blues, purples, oranges. >> and you see star wars with a lot of strange characters. >> yeah, but none of them seem to be in charge of the galaxy. everybody in charge of the galaxy seem to look like us. [laughs] i thought that was a large amount of human show -- i felt at the and it was weird
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that the wookiee did not get him at all. all of them gotten medals, and the wilkie would be fighting. he didn't get any metal. i thought that was an example of anti-wilkie discrimination. >> how about that, carl seguin advocate for wookiees everywhere. as the noted astrophysicist, ron pulpy a would say, but wait, there's more. carl seguin could not have predicted 2021, but he did see it coming. he wrote the following back in 1995, and we quote, i have a foreboding of an america in my children's, or grandchildren's time,
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. , roll that around for a while. he died ten months later, realizing just when he was trying to tell us back then. that is our broadcast for this monday night, with our thanks for being here with us, with my thanks to chris jansing in ali velshi for allowing me to stick away to the --
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jersey shore. on behalf of all our colleagues here at nbc news, goodnight. tonight on all in -- >> we were getting ready to win this election, frankly, we did when this election. >> the inside story of what donald trump was willing to do to maintain power, tonight. and michael c bender on is booked, frankly, we did win this election. then, he was on the frontlines during the attack on the capital, now he is fighting for answers about the insurrection, my exclusive interview with d.c. police officer michael fanone texas democrats do it again. escaping austin to stop new voter restriction laws, again. one of those democrats joins me live. and two decades later, how joe biden became the president who will end america's longest war. when all in, starts right now. good evening omew

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