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developing story for us. welcome to you. has the u.s. officially responded to this request? >> reporter: hey, there, alex. yes, the u.s. has responded and they plan on taking action. listen, there is a lot of turmoil on the ground in haiti right now and a lot of uncertainty as well because of the assassination of the president. so haitian officials are asking u.s. officials to help. they want security and stability moving forward. so here is what jan psaki had to say yesterday in response to this request and here's what she told reporters yesterday at the white house. take a listen. >> the united states remains engaged and in close consultations with the haitians to support the people in the aftermath of the assassination of the president. in response to the haitian's government request for security and investigative assistance, we will be sending senior fbi and dhs officials to port-au-prince as soon as possible to assess the situation and how we may be able to assist.
>> reporter: now, haitian officials are also asking for u.s. troops to arrive in haiti to help secure the infrastructure, the ports, the airports. but right now it doesn't appear the military forces will be moving into haiti at this time. and alex, as far as the investigation goes, there is a lot to unpack. obviously this is still in the early stages. several people have been arrested so far. the majority of them being clom columbians. officials are saying at least 28 people were involved in this assassination and at some point next week members of the haitian president's security detail will be questioned. alex, there are still five suspects at large at this point. >> thank you for the update on the stats and all that. kathy park relative to haiti. let's go to the breaking news out of charlottesville, virginia. a pair of confederate statues
are gone nearly four years after a deadly white nationalist rally. i guess the details about now, why is the city choosing to take down these statues now? as we said, it's been four years. >> reporter: that's a very interesting question that me and a lot of other people simply are trying to figure out. the city council, city officials put out a press release late in the afternoon yesterday that sent a lot of us scrambling. we were trying to figure out why. originally the monuments were scheduled to go down, be removed away in the fall, but instead the mayor comes out this morning and said that the city had the ability, it was their right to remove the statues today, it was just that's what they wanted to do. there was nothing wrong with it, it just caught a lot of people off guard. but she said that, you know, these two bronze statues really didn't represent the city the
way that they wanted it to, so they wanted it out of here as soon as possible. one of the people who were here this morning is a young woman named zayana bryant. she's really the key architect in this whole thing. 16 years old, she started the petition to get these monuments removed. and i'm talking about the stonewall jackson monument and also the robert e. lee monument. of course these guys were both generals in the confederacy and it's because of her that everybody is here today. and so i want you all to pay attention and listen. here's what she had to say. >> i don't have much to say, other than this is well overdue. this should have happened a long time ago. to young people out there, i hope that this empowers you to speak up on the issues that matter and to take charge in your own cities and communities. >> reporter: she wasn't the only
one who felt this way. i talked to two other women -- actually, several other people, but i definitely talked to two other women who shared these feelings. one woman who was here this morning told me she was very happy, elated to see these statues go. she said they represented racism, enslavement, and she was very happy to see these monuments put on a truck and roll out of town. >> really quick, do we know where these monuments are going? i recall in the wake of issues in the state of south carolina, the governor nikki haley created museum where she put it in a specific place, where they still had a place to do that. do we know if these statues are going anywhere that will still be accessible by the public? >> reporter: well, here's how i'll answer that. people were kind of unsure, there's a little bit of misinformation. originally it was being reported
that there were a lot of different options, that they could be destroyed by the city. but i think that's changed in the last 24 hours. there's been ten bids to where some people can maybe buy these statues, maybe that they can be placed in some type of historical institution, maybe that they can be in some type of museum. so at this point i don't think they're going to be destroyed. but i do think of the ten different places and institutions, you have to remember there are still some people out there, this was a very controversial decision. there are a lot of people who didn't want these monuments to be taken away. there was a huge riot here in 2017 where one person was killed and 19 people were injured, and those people haven't shown up here today, but there's still a small, a segment of society that want these statues to be preserved. and so we could see them wind up in a museum somewhere, for sure. >> good answer. thank you. very thorough, deon. appreciate that.
let's go to the day's other top developing stories at this hour and this breaking news as right now the texas senate is hearing from voters in a public hearing on the state's republican-backed restrictive voting measures. it comes as a top ally to president biden pleased with him to scrap the filibuster for federal election reform. house majority whip james clyburn telling politico the president should endorse the idea of creating a carveout to the legislative filibuster in the senate for legislation that applies specifically to the constitution. meanwhile, a major firing in the biden administration. the president dismissing andrew saul, a trump administration holdover. the white house says saul's actions ran contrary to the agency's mission. saul is fighting back, telling the "washington post" he plans to be back at work monday morning as he claims his term is protected. speaking of protection, the protective fence surrounding the capitol is in the process of
being taken down six months after the january 6th attack on the capitol. but concerns are growing that capitol police officers could be furloughed if congress doesn't fund the agency and soon. january 6th committee bennie thompson making a plea on msnbc. >> i hope the senate works its wheel so we can keep people employed, we can continue to secure the capitol and give our opportunity of a committee review of exactly what went wrong on january 6th. we are concerned about it. >> we're also getting a brand new look at the violence that unfolded during the capitol riot as the justice department releases new video evidence. the doj making this footage public at the request of msnbc and other news organizations, and again we're warning you, it's violent and graphic. [ bleep ].
>> wow, just the relentness beatings. let's go to nbc's amanda golden joining us from capitol hill. what is the mood around the capitol as the fencing is coming down? >> reporter: alex, in stark contrast to the footage we just saw, there is a lot of relief, a lot of joy around the fencing finally coming down here at the capitol. we're seeing for the first time people being able to go up into the courtyard where you can then on the other side see the supreme court and then face the capitol on the other side. people are jogging, riding their bikes throughout. and i was walking around just before coming in to speak with you and you can really see on the senate side of where the inner perimeter fencing was, it's almost entirely gone at this point and workers have been out there since late yesterday and then picking up again early this morning, and are going to be working removing the fence part by part. there's a number of different trucks to pick up what is being moved, and there's a pipe-cutter
or chain saw type device that's breaking up those parts of the fence as they come down and are being trucked away. while the fencing is coming away, this was originally entirely throughout the complex and then just in the inner capitol square, while the fencing is coming down there are still security concerns over how the police force here at the capitol could have enough resources, enough of the bolstering for that security in the wake of january 6th, as those forces have really been depleted this recent months. morale is down, they're having trouble retaining people and now there are renewed questions around funding for them and the potential that they might have to furlough employees. we've seen these dueling supplemental funding bills make their way through congress. on the house side that passed last month, the $1.9 billion emergency funding that had $31 million that was supposed to go towards police salaries, but that's been stalled in the senate and we're now having the senate republican counterproposal that's just come out yesterday that says that
they want to put forward $632 million supplemental funding bill that would narrowly address national guard and capitol police. but all of this comes with lawmakers set to return on monday. the fencing should be down. we heard from congressman jason crow earlier today as he spoke to that dueling play-out of both wanting the capitol to be accessible but also remaining cautious about what could happen. take a listen. >> one thing that i want the capitol building, the complex capitol hill to be accessible to people. that's the people's house. on the other hand, this is far from over. we have a growing and emboldened domestic extremist movement in america that's becoming more violent, not less, and we have to make sure that we are emboldened to address that. >> reporter: we're still waiting to see is this january 6th committee in the house, as that inches forward we saw the eight appointments from house speaker nancy pelosi last week. we're still waiting for those
five additional republican appointments from house minority leader kevin mccarthy. we don't know who he is going to put forward. some have offered themselves up. but the chair of that committee, congressman benny thompson, has said they're going to start the first hearing either july 21st or july 22nd and that will focus narrowly on the capitol police officers and supplemental staff that were here on january 6th. >> my non-professional construction worker colleague. i would have said the scissors they're using. thank you, amanda. joining me, chair of the armed services committee. i see you laughing at me. i understand, too, as well. thank you for joining me. look, we showed some new video earlier of this new evidence that's been released by the justice department. i want to show another one of those videos. this one with a chilling threat. i have to warn our viewers what we're about to show is graphic and violent. everyone, let's take a look.
>> you're going to die tonight! >> i mean, it's just extraordinary here. we have right now a group of republicans, right now, they're rallying in florida calling on authorities to free the, quote, political prisoners who were arrested after storming the capitol. when you see this new violent video, this we just showed and the other we showed throughout the day here, how do you interpret republicans calling for the release of people charged for their involvement in the riot? >> it's part of the incredible dilution that is taking over much of the republican party. on one hand it's a dilution, but on the other an organized movement of what could be described as an overthrow of the existing government. part of their strategy is to lie and pretend what happened didn't happen so people don't know the rising level of violence. i completely agree with my
colleague, jason crow, the right wing extremist movement in this country is growing and is becoming more violent and they don't care about representative democracy. they want to overthrow the biden government in any way they can and they want to try to hide what they're doing and pretend that what you can see on the video didn't happen in the hopes that they can lull people into a false sense of security. but this threat is real and it is i think one of the most profound threats to our constitution and to our republic and our history. >> and as we're reporting after six months, this fence surrounding the u.s. capitol being taken down as we speak. but as you just heard, the capitol police are facing an urgent financial crisis, the force could soon run out of money for salaries. how concerned are you, sir, and your colleagues about this? what happens to capitol security, what happens to your safety while in your office if they do not get the funding they need? >> well, i'm very concerned about this. in the house well over a month ago we passed funding that would
prevent this and the senate has not acted. they need to pay for the capitol security. because of january 6th, the cost of protecting the capitol exploded over the course of the last six, seven months, and those costs have to be paid or the capitol police has to take it out of hide. they will stop paying and lay people off. and i'll point out the national guard also had to spend a lot of money that they have not been reimbursed for that is harming the readiness of our national guard right now. they are part of that funding stream as well. the senate needs to act. it's really that simple. >> there's no other way to say it but just as you did. let's talk about the chair of the capitol attack select committee telling msnbc that the committee will hold its first hearing ten, eleven days from now. we're still waiting for kevin mccarthy to public republican members to fill the five vacant seats. we have learned he intends to do it instead of not naming anyone
at all, which apparently was being considered. are you encouraged by that or are you concerned about the motives of whomever he may appoint? >> no, i'm not encouraged by that. kevin mccarthy made a clear decision after january 6th. on january 6th when the violence happened, you can almost see the republicans, lindsey graham's ridiculous speech in the senate, if you haven't seen that on january 6th, it's worth going back and looking at. they said, oh, my gosh, we've gone too far. the trump cult is a disaster, it's a huge problem. that lasted, i think, maybe until the morning and then kevin mccarthy calculated that he needs trump and he needs trump supporters to win back the majority in the house. so he basically sold everything out to back trump no matter what, and part of that is denying, again, what you're showing on the screen right here of what happened on january 6th. kevin mccarthy is trying to whitewash this, trying to bury it, trying to get people to
forget what happened on january 6th and to lie about it. and obviously a select committee led by benny thompson, who will do an outstanding job, will impede that ability to bury this reality, to hide the try extremism of trump. so, no, i'm not encouraged by it. mccarthy is trying to be as creative as he can in helping support the trump cult in their attempt at a fascist takeover of this country. and there is nothing encouraging about any of that. we need to show people what happened on january 6th so we don't get lulled into a sense that it isn't happening when it is. >> given your position as chair of the house armed services committee, i want to turn to the u.s. withdraw from afghanistan, with the president having said that the military missions will officially end on august 31st. as you know right now the withdraw is about 90% complete, but the taliban appears to be filling the vacuum left bethe u.s. and that's causing concerns of a takeover as these american troops are fully withdrawing. president biden in fact addressing these concerns.
let's take a listen to what he said. >> is a taliban takeover of afghanistan now inevitable? >> the afghan troops have 300,000 well equipped, as well equipped as any army in the world, and an air force against something like 75,000 taliban. it is not inevitable. >> do you agree with that? are you certain that we've left afghanistan in the best way possible? >> i'm certain that this is the right decision. i'm certain that we had to leave afghanistan. it was not in the best interest of the united states of america to stay there. because the thing that you have to understand is in order for us to stay there, we would have had to committee well north of $10 billion a year basically forever. what we've learned in the last 20 years, we can hold a
stalemate and we would have faced the fact that more troops would be killed and wounded. we would have been back in the middle of the fight. and i could not tell those troops that that fight would end in any different result a year from now, five years from now, ten years from now. this is not a happy result. there's no question about it. but the u.s. military over the course of the last 20 years proved that we couldn't stop the war. we couldn't stop the fight. and the thing to remember is, afghanistan has had a history of having foreign militaries' presence on its soil and they don't like that. as capable as our military is, as more capability that we give the afghan people, we also gave the opposition, the taliban, the central argument against the afghan government, that they were allowing a foreign military to be in their country. there was no good solution here. but in order to have continued this stalemate in this civil
war, it would have cost a lot of american lives and a lot of american money, and i cannot as the chair of the armed services committee and a member of congress look the service members in the eye who were going there and say that it would be worth it. i just couldn't. so i agree with the decision, even though the outcome is not a positive one. i will not deny that. >> in terms of money, sir, we spent, what, about $82 billion building, training the afghan military over the past two decades. right now we're grappling with the return of the taliban to some degree. how is that sitting with the members of your committee, as you see the rise of the taliban, $82 billion later? >> look, it's very hard. let's keep several things in mind here. number one, the primary mission there was to make sure that al queda could not attack us again
and to those who sacrificed and were wounded going through that experience, thank you. you stopped them from being what they had done on 9/11 and several other instances and in that sense there is no question that it was successful. the second goal that we had was to get a stable government in place in afghanistan so that the taliban could not come back to power. i think we have to be honest, we did not succeed in that objective. it was not for a lack of effort. it wasn't for a lack of commitment. the problem was just beyond our ability to solve, with a foreign power, u.s. military, nato, we couldn't get there. but continuing our presence there, i've heard a number of people say, gosh, we're still in south korea, so why would it be a problem to stay in afghanistan? nobody is shooting at us in south korea. if there was a peaceful possibility here, if the afghan government had a stable place and we were peacekeepers, in essence, sure. but that's not the situation in afghanistan. if our troops stayed in afghanistan, more would die.
and they would face attacks on a day in and day out basis and as we've proven, we would not be able to end the war. the cost was too high and the outcome, we weren't going to get to where we needed to be. i don't agree with everything president biden said about the situation yesterday -- or i guess it was a couple days ago now when he made those remarks, but this is the right decision. it's not an easy decision, but it is the right decision. >> congressman, we are unfortunately out of time, but i would love to have you back as soon as possible to talk about how we are trying to protect and evacuate those afghans who worked with the united states so closely, interpreters and the like. it's super important this be addressed and handled quickly, like asap. i would love to have you back and talk about that, too. thank you so much. call it the texas time warp as the party of trump gets trumpier and parties like it's 2016. and one we explore. one that's been paved and one that's forever wild.
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with low vaccination rates are at risk for a new outbreak from the delta variant. many of those are in the south and midwest and have seen an increase in cases over the last two weeks. let's go to nbc's lindsey reiser, joining me from new york city times square with more on this. give me a sense, as i say welcome to you, how widespread this variant is. >> reporter: hey, alex. the delta variant is now the dominant strain here in the united states, according to the cdc, and that's certainly the case in new york. also according to health officials. but across the country we are seeing two different stories and it really depends on the vaccination rates. if you take a look behind me, it's a saturday afternoon in times square. it is bustling with tourists and visitors. this was not the site over the past few months. businesses are happy to see it. restrictions are lifted and broadway shows are coming back, too. new york is trying to come back. and with the tourists coming in and restrictions lifted, we're not seeing cases go up.
new york just recorded a seven-day rolling average, the lowest not seen since last march and state officials are saying that's because we have a high vaccination rate in new york. about three-quarters of all adults have gotten at least one shot. certainly not the case everywhere around the country. we're going to show you a map showing where a lot of the hot spots are turning up. as you mentioned, it's in the south, it's in the plains, it's frankly in areas that are experiencing low vaccination rates. we're also going to show you a graphic showing that, the correlation between the top ten least vaccinated states and then the states that are seeing the highest rise in cases in terms of 14-day averages. alabama, mississippi, arkansas, louisiana, tennessee, all topping the least vaccinated list and seeing anywhere from 80% to 106% increase in cases in just the last 14 days, and also we know from the cdc 99% of the deaths recorded last month were among unvaccinated individuals.
so the delta variant is the wildcard here in this pandemic and dr. peter hotez was on with ali velshi this morning and here's what he said. >> you need to be vaccinated so you're not going into the hospital, but also we need to reduce community transmission and that only happens when everybody gets vaccinated. this is the problem that we're seeing in missouri and arkansas and now it's heading into louisiana and mississippi and florida, is that you have that one-two punch of low vaccination rates and high levels of delta. so this thing is going to get a lot of people sick. what we've got in the young adults especially in the southern states under 40% in many cases among the adolescent under 20%, so we're going to see a lot of sick young people go into the hospital. >> reporter: so what is still unresolved, is the booster shot.
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minus the traditional markups. ♪♪ if you want more proof that the republican party is still the party of trump, look no further than the cpac lineup this weekend in texas, with speakers like donald trump jr., former homeland security security text chad wolf, texas lieutenant governor dan patrick, and congresswoman of colorado and the former president himself is set to give the closing speech tomorrow. let's go to nbc's alley ali
vitali. what are the themes you're hearing this weekend? >> reporter: a lot of this are things we talked about over the course of the last few weeks and months as i've been attending these conservative rallies. there's a juxtaposition by being in texas, cpac is here and the special legislative session happening in the capital where they're working through issues trying to make them legally tangible as opposed to just ideas that are talked about in spaces such as this. the special session taking into play things like banning critical race theory. there's also the restrictive voting bill that we've been following for the last few weeks as it's been blocked by democrats there, but republicans hope to push it through over the course of the next few days during this special session. all of those ideas are things that are talked about in rooms such as this one. donald trump jr., for example,
on friday, talking about the virtues of texans for pushing through such bills like that, or at least trying to. listen. >> it's great to see it. texas has always led the charge. well, until about like a couple months ago and then austin sort of took over. i don't know, guys. texas was leading. you're still top 25. we've got to work on that stuff. those people have lost their minds. >> reporter: what he seems to be referring to there when he says that austin kind of took over is when democrats walked out the last time that republicans in texas tried to pass this restrictive voting bill. they're going to try this again during the special session that's coming up. it's a huge priority for people like the texas governor, who is facing his own political currents in the state. he's running for re-election against people who are trying to run at him from the right. texas is a fascinating microcosm
of the way that the national conversation spurred specifically by people like trump, but also his allies, about the culture wars and cancel culture and all of the things that we have been talking about for weeks. those things are no longer just ideas in rooms like this one. what we're seeing across the country is that national conversation translating into local and statewide efforts to actually make those things into law, whether it's on voting or other culture war issues like critical race theory. alex? >> thanks so much for bringing djt jr. back to the show. thank you so much from dallas. let's go to the latest on the trump organization indictment and who would be the next target in the ongoing new york investigation. new analysis from "the daily beast" suggests prosecutors are looking to turn up the heat on trump's children, writing a list of seven trump organization companies, including one where ivanka trump held an executive role for eight years. joining me, tristan snell,
former deputy attorney general for new york who led the trump university investigation, that civil suit. awfully glad to have you here, tristan. your expertise and experience, we're going to mine into that right now. my question first off, how crucial of a role do you think the trump children play in this investigation and do you think new york prosecutors are looking to flip them? >> there's a lot of speculation about that. i mean, let's rewind a bit about how all of this has worked. the role ha eric and don jr. played ramped up a lot after donald trump entered the white house. ivanka had had a large role in a lot of these companies well before that, and she really was taking more of a hands-on role and was groomed to be the heir prior to 2016. she's the officer of a lot of these companies, and so are don jr. and eric. all three of them have exposure
with regard to tax improprieties. we know some things about ivanka, if any of them were getting compensated in a way that was evading taxes, they could be liable and they could be pulled in on the fact that the trump organization has already been indicted and is likely to get indicted for additional charges coming up. as to whether they'll flip, mary trump, trump's piece, has speculated that ivanka would be more likely to flip than alan weisselberg, for example. a lot of people have been talking about the possibility that she could turn on her father. i don't really know anything about that one way or the other, other than what everybody else has been talking about. but certainly you apply pressure to anybody and a lot of things can happen. >> and i want to take issue with the word flip, not the way you're saying it. another former representative of the trump organization said it's not really flipping, it's just asking to tell the truth.
that's what they're looking for, just tell the truth. let's make that point. but can i ask you, is ignorance and saying i didn't know, is that a plausible defense? >> really not ever in a lot of cases like this, but especially not here. we're not talking about a giant company where there were a lot of people and the top executives didn't know the details. the trump organization in new york, at trump tower, is only at any point a dozen to a few dozen top executives that own and run the trump organization, which is the holding company for a bunch of smaller llcs that run different properties around the u.s. and around the world. and only a small handful of these people were officers at any of those companies. there were only five people authorized to sign checks and be signatories on any trump bank account, and those people were donald trump, alan weisselberg, and then ivanka, don jr. and
eric. that's it. and they ran each of these companies exactly the same. all of these companies were cookie cutter. they had the same legal structure, the same accounting and operations practices. so if there were illegalities going on at some of these llcs, it was probably a lot more widespread throughout the entire company. >> fascinating. as someone who has led an investigation against donald trump before in the state of new york, did it surprise you, tristan, that the charges in this particular case were not heftier or that there weren't charges against donald trump himself? and do you think more charges could be coming? >> this was just the first inning. we are nowhere near the end of the game here. this was meant to be a shot across the bow, a warning shot, if you will, that implicated weisselberg, that implicated the trump organization, that showed what prosecutors know. there's a lot of hidden messages in that indictment. they made it clear that, a, we know you were keeping two sets of books, b, we know that there
was a ledger that probably was manipulated that was donald trump's ledger. so you can't try to say that donald trump didn't know about the finances. weisselberg reviewed them with trump personally on a regular basis in all likelihood. and that we also then were given a little taste of who else might be cooperating. there's unindicted co-conspirator number one, which most insiders have now found they believe that it's jeff mcconnie, the controller. he is weisselberg's number two. he is probably cooperating with prosecutors. all of this was in there. this was basically a warning shot to the trump organization, to weisselberg, to the trumps, to say, hey, we're on to you, we do have the goods. this is just the beginning. this was only the opening salvo is what is going to be a much longer battle here. we are going to be seeing other indictments. now there's speculation that ivanka will have an indictment of her own. the bigger, bigger things that are coming are around the trump
organization, manipulating the value of properties to say to lenders and insurers, these properties are worth a ton and going to tax authorities and saying they're not worth very much and thereby skirting millions and millions of taxes, way, way bigger sums than we saw in the first indictment. this is just the beginning. >> tristan, i'm looking at the op-ed you wrote in the "washington post" saying that documents matter more than weisselberg now, and you write, what if weisselberg is not the star witness, sinequa non, without whom the case will fall apart. what if it's not a witness at all, but rather a collection of emails, spreadsheets and other corporate files. these new york prosecutors have a ton of documents that includes tax returns. what other documents would they need? how essential is weisselberg and his testimony to the
prosecution? >> testimony, i'm not saying testimony is not important. it is important. a lot of times you need testimony to help connect the dots, especially before a jury, to be able to say, hey, this is all how of this works, this was the context, this was the mo for how this company operated, so that you actually give some life to some of the documents. good lawyering can do that, too. that's part of why you have an opening statement and a closing statement. you can put these things together through good direct and cross-examinations. so you can have weisselberg help tell the story even if he's not cooperating because you basically walk him through all of this on cross-examination with a whole bunch of questions that you know he has to say certain answers to, or he's going to be perjuring himself on the stand. that's just good lawyering. there's a lot of things you can do even if the person isn't cooperating. however, you can get other people to give the context, other witnesses that worked at the trump organization that can tell about its inner workings at
the inner circle, the top execs, donald trump himself in trump tower. michael cohen is someone that can potentially be that guide, who can help sort of connect the dots and show the jury, if it ever gets that far, exactly how all of these documents piece together. as for the documents themselves, this is why one of the most important turning points in this entire saga is going to end up having been the supreme court decisions last year and at the beginning of this year that finally forced donald trump to hand over all of the books, all of the financial records underlying those books. it's not about the tax records per se. it's the backups to the tax records. those were the key things that now are providing the fuel for the prosecutors' actions here in new york. >> tristan, this was a great conversation. i am so going to mess with your weekends and have you back as often as possible to go through this as the case makes its way through the depositions and courts and whatever. thank you so much.
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give me the plan in texas. how can democrats have a say in what eventually passes there? >> this is -- so thanks for having me. we need a federal law that creates standards as to how federal elections are conducted. what's happening in texas and in georgia and in florida and now in 40 plus states in the nation is reprehensible. it is a reaction to the fact that we had a report voter turnout in the 2020 election, and now some people want to try to restrict and limit going forward. texas is reprehensible. they are already one of the low turnout states in the nation in terms of having one of the lowest voter turnouts, and they want to make their laws more restrictive. what is the intent behind all of this? it's simple. to allow a minority of the
people in a state like texas and across the nation to thwart this growing new multi-cultural nation so that people can vote unfettered, people can vote freely. this is an assault on the freedom to vote. this is an assault on the work of the last 100 years where women and african-americans and many others got the right to vote, and a poll tax was banned from a constitutional standpoint. we are going backwards. this is going to be a fight. the meeting at the white house, we shared with the president that this is a state of emergency. i believe he heard us, he understood us, and now we see that he'll make a major address on tuesday in philadelphia. this is about educating the american people that this is not just a partisan battle. this is a battle for the future of american democracy.
>> as you referenced your meeting with president biden, it came a week or more after the supreme court gave states more room to impose voting restrictions. let's play a little bit of what you and reverend sharpton said at the white house. take a listen. >> when we look at what is happening in this nation, we see an effort to impose a system of american apartheid. >> the way this has been laid out in the state legislators and legislation is geared toward robbing of us of the vote. >> this meeting was described as very candid, mark. no holds barred. what did the president say when you raised these points with him? what was the tenor? what was his reaction? >> i believe the president embraces, agrees with how important this is. the vice president certainly
does. she made a speech at howard university on thursday, the same day that we held our meeting with the president. and i believe he is lock step in the idea that this is an attack on what he talked about, the very soul of this nation. now, we know that the senate the would have already have seen a bill like the for the people act pass the united states senate and be on the president's desk. so the political issue is the operations of the senate, and i am in favor of whatever means, peaceful, necessary to get this done. if it means a carve out on the filibuster, so be it. if it means trying to secure -- and we have met with republicans as well as democrats to secure support from enough republicans to get to 60 votes, so be it. >> are you getting any of that,
mark? are you getting any support from republicans on this? >> we have no evidence that any republican has publicly indicated support necessary for us to get to 60 votes. but here is the thing, alex. we will keep working, keep trying, keep pushing. there will be multiple mobilizations throughout the summer that are designed to mobilize and educate and continue to place pressure around this very important issue. this is a tsunami of voter suppression. >> yeah. >> that warrants not one or two bills, hundreds of bills. you mentioned the united states supreme court which thought in its decision to literally rewrite the 1965 voting rights act. it is a reprehensible, poorly reasoned decision. i will call it what it is. it is in the class of plessi, in the class of the dred scott
decision, in the class of shelby v. holder where the supreme court should be standing up to protect access to the ballot box, not coming up with cute six-part tests to try to sustain voter suppression laws. so this is a battle on multiple parts, and it is for the soul of this nation. >> yes. and i -- >> my mother was denied the right to vote because she was asked the color of her eyes. she said they were brown and the clerk said they were black. this is something that has affected members of my family over time. we cannot go back in this nation to where we erect and effect a blockade around the ballot box so that only some americans have easy access to vote. >> that is a stunning story you tell about your mother, but i'm sure it is part of the reason you are calling this the summer of activism. put your track shoes on and run with it, my friend. thank you so much. >> thanks, alex.
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a new push to get people back to work has resulted in higher wages in some industries. the restaurant, hotel and entertainment sectors saw the fastest wage gains with the average pay in food service now above $15 an hour for the first time. joining me now is "washington post" economic correspondent heather long. welcome back to the broadcast, heather. so let's check out the month of june, in which 850,000 jobs were added to the economy. that is the highest gain since last summer certainly. however, the unemployment rate rose slightly to 5.9%. how do you square these -- i mean there's a correlation here. how do you explain them? >> it was a really strong month in june for sure, and we're expecting to see even stronger
hiring through the rest of the summer, maybe even some months with over a million jobs growth. right now we see record numbers of job openings in america, over 9 million job openings. we have never, ever seen that many job openings. right now we are starting to see people go back to work as they feel more and more ready to go, but as you and i have discussed before, a lot of people really changed their whole life during the pandemic and they're trying to change careers or go in a different direction. >> is that why you think these numbers with, what, 9 million people say they're looking for work, 9 million available jobs, i'm curious why companies are having a tough time filling positions, not only because of what you said people may be rio re-evaluating their lives. >> you mentioned the restaurant industry is over $15 an hour on average. the hospitality sector generally is where you see the most
complaints that they can't find enough workers, has been doing the bulk of the hiring the last few months, and the wages in that sector, it is just through the roof. in the last three months it has jumped over 6% in the pay increase, in three months. we don't normally see that in a year. it is up by about a dollar since march across the sector. >> yeah. let me ask you about something you wrote about in the new piece that will be of concern to a lot of people. you write how rent prices are increasing, as high as 33% in some areas. what is happening here? >> basically, this is a story of people are coming back to cities, offices are reopening. students are going back to colleges this fall, and so suddenly there's just a ton of people trying to rent these one-bedroom, two-bedroom apartments or trying to rent houses. so we're seeing nationwide some of the fastest rent increases that we've seen in years. but what is different this time around, i've got a couple of e-mails from people from new
york city or san francisco or l.a., and they say, well, the rents still seem pretty reasonable here. they're not jumping. that's right. those used to be the city that had big rent increases, but this time around it is totally different. it is phoenix and tucson and las vegas and boise and spokane, washington, parts of florida, the atlanta area that are really driving the rent increases as people continue to be able to work from anywhere and to look for the more affordable places. but, of course, now it is not so affordable as those rents are just -- i heard so many stories. you know, $400 rent increase, $500 rent increase that they're being hit with this summer. >> absolutely fascinating article and a great discussion, heather long. thank you for that. it is billionaire versus billionaire. the expectations ahead of tomorrow's space flight. pace fl. wait... i want a bucket of chicken... i want... ♪♪