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right-wing propaganda, it is scary and they are persuading people. thanks for your analysis and time tonight. that is tonight's "the last word." "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. good evening, once again, i'll ali velshi in for brian williams, 171 of the biden administration. major change from the cdc involving one of the most divisive issues to ever emerge during the pandemic -- the agency urging schools to fully reopen this fall, even if they're unable to put into place all the recommended steps to keep the virus from spreading. also says unvaccinated students and staff members should continue wearing masks. those who are vaccinated, should not. we'll ask a doctor and about the confusion of the booster shots
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ahead. tonight, also new information how the house select committee will begin to investigate the deadly siege on the capitol six months ago. just today the justice department released more brand new video evidence, showing rioters literally dragging and beating police officers. made the footage public at request of nbc and other news organizations. warn you this is among some of the most violent and graphic video release sod far from january 6th.
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>> [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> beating police officers, they said it was antifa, they said it was blm, some said it was just tourists. panel of house members will examine the events. republican leader kevin mccarthy has yet to name appointees to the panel but chairman betty thompson from mississippi, said will not delay the first hearing later this month. >> either the 21st or 22nd of july, the committee is committed to doing our job. as i said, we hope that mccarthy gives us the final recommendations to populate the committee. if he chooses not to, we'll could our work. members of congress complicit, we'll go there. >> you've not rolled out a subpoena for former president
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donald trump. we know that they've ignored congressional subpoenas before. >> there are mechanisms to enforce subpoenas, obviously. might have to go to court. >> former president's lies about the 2020 election helped fuel the january 6th insurrection and given rise to hundreds of new bills aimed at restricting voting rights under the guise of so-called election security. texas state lawmakers in midst of special session for new voting bills. republicans in state senate will hold public hearings on proposals previously blocked by democrats. president biden promising for weeks to give a formal address on protecting the right to vote. the white house says that will happen tuesday in philadelphia. president has also been focused on ransomware cyberattacks carried out in the united states by criminals believed to be based in russia. latest on a florida software
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company happened after biden warned russian president vladimir putin in person he needed to do something to stop them. today the white house said biden spoke with putin on the phone this afternoon. reporters asked the president about the hour-long conversation. >> the united states expects, when ransomware operation is coming from his soil, even though it's not sponsored by the state, we expect him to act if we give him enough information to act on who that is. secondly we've set up communications now on regular basis to be able to communicate to one another when each of us thinks something is happening in other country that affects the home country. it went well, i'm optimistic. >> you said three weeks ago there would be consequences, will there be sir? >> yes. >> there will be consequences.
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hour later, asked for specifics. >> up until now the u.s. response has been to exercise sanctions on russia for this activity. does it make sense for the u.s. to take it up a notch and attack the actual servers used? >> yes. >> yes again. u.s. and russian officials set to hold talks on cybercrimes next week. "wall street journal" reports that administration is considering plans to shrink the staff at u.s. embassy in afghanistan because of growing security concerns as u.s. forces are pulled out. haitian government is asking washington for u.s. troops to protect infrastructure. violence erupted following assassination of haiti's president. u.s. insisted no military assistance would be provided. team of national security officials is on the way to
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assist in the investigation of the killing and we continue to follow the developments out of surfside, florida. more than two weeks since collapse of the condominium. as they work through the rubble, several more victims were found in the wreckage. 79 people now known to have died, 61 unaccounted for. leadoff guests on this friday night. susan page, eugene daniels, coauthor of each day's edition of politico playbook, and jeremy bash, former chief of staff at nsa and pentagon. good evening, thanks for joining us. eugene, busy week for president biden. trying to sell not just infrastructure plan but america family plan. had cybersecurity issue with russia taking his time. unexpected assassination of
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leader in haiti and now new discussions about resurgence in covid. what is your sense how the white house is prioritizing these matters? >> infrastructure stays number one. this is the white house, they choose what they want and go for that first, focus as they can on that. and take everything else as it comes. russian -- russia ransomware attacks and president biden talking to putin, we've been asking, been in briefing this entire week asking the press secretary about that. what is going on, are they going to talk, and today before the press briefing, moved back. every time we get put on hold, something is coming. readout of the phone call came out. this white house, they've continued to learn, they learned early on, no matter how much you plan, the rest of the world is operating and moving along, so they have to react at the same
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time. what they tell us every time we ask, what are the priorities, how are you thinking about what to prioritize, they say they can chew gum and walk at the same time. something we'll continue to see, especially when we are supposed to see work be really done on turning the framework for the infrastructure bill and reconciliation bill into actual bills, and rest of it. they have a long agenda and not a lot of time to do it. congress going on break here in about a month, and then more importantly after january, everyone going to start looking at 2022. they don't have a lot of time to get all the things done on their list. >> one of the things that wasn't on the agenda, jeremy, was the cyberattacks, one of the very clear things that joe biden said to vladimir putin in their meeting in geneva. want to play something earlier that mike mcfaul who knows about
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this and has been helping biden work through this said on msnbc. >> we're not talking about the russian government, we're talking about criminals, to the best of my knowledge so far, what is has been discussed publicly. that gives us more leverage and opportunity to be more aggressive about them, and to put pressure on russian authorities. russian police, say arrest these people, go after them. putin is not going to defend criminals in the public tit for tat on this. he's going to call them criminals or say he has nothing to do with them. >> jeremy, help make sense of that. what exactly comes of the warning in geneva, the phone call today and idea that biden in two opportunities has said he's going to do something. sort of suggested there's a red line he's prepared to take action on. >> yes, first by elevating the issue in direct dialogue with
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president of the russian federation, our president is making clear this is the highest priority for the united states, to ensure our businesses and private secretary, hospitals and universities and government systems, data and communications, are protected. done a number of overt things, sanctioning those involved, gone after the money that's been stolen, used technology to reach into the digital bitcoin wallets of the ransomware hackers and grab the money back. done a number of overt things. i think biden is also signaling this week as he did in geneva, been engaging in unseen, covert, clandestine activities. i think this is a very consequential pivot this week to focus on the cyberattacks, digital competition between the united states and russia, atop the agenda.
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>> susan, there are a lot of options that republicans can stake out positions on, cooperative or alternatives to the white house. infrastructure, cybersecurity, haiti, afghanistan or covid. but here we have mo brooks, a headliner at january 6th event in washington, talking at cpac in dallas about what the republican party actually needs to do. let's listen. >> dictatorial socialists want to cancel america. we have to fight back. to protect our country's greatness. they attack our republic by engaging in unparalleled voter fraud and election theft activities. they attack our first amendment freedom of speech with censorship for big tech. with cancel culture.
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>> and trump at his own rallies has been airing that endless grievance about the election. this is where they are in moment when the country needs political leadership and could use political opposition for a good debate but this is where they are right now. >> look what they're not talking about, not the pandemic, top of the voters' minds for years. not talking much about the economy, only on the fringes since it seems to be coming on its way back. they're really talking about cultural issues. there's a lot to unpack in what brooks was saying. throwing up whatever they can think in cultural grievance issues to see what sticks. so far hasn't stuck much to president biden. can criticize some things he's done but approval rating continues to be just above 50%, a level that president trump never achieved. with the attacks, you see the gop struggling to find what they
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can use to make a case against the democrats and joe biden that goes beyond that trump base. >> jeremy, talk about the other issue, biden administration getting pushback from republicans and democrats and some support. pull-back out of afghanistan, people on both sides support the idea after 20 years we've not done enough in afghanistan and can't afford more losses, and others who think it is remarkably dangerous move to pull out right now with ascendent taliban. >> i think what president biden concluded, we need to change strategy. had 20 years of combat troops on the ground. achieved militarily what we wanted to achieve. gotten to osama bin laden and
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decapitated the al qaeda leadership, and now threats emanate from number of other places around the world, we have to reset and reposture the force. over the horizon kinetic strike capability to use intelligence on the ground fused with airpower from the skies where we can kinetically strike terrorist targets wherever they are. that's the strategy going forward. there is a risk that afghan government could fall to the taliban and biden said it's a possibility. doesn't mean we have to have combat troops on the ground. have robust presence to keep home land safe which is the point of it in the first place. >> recount continues in arizona, remarkable thing.
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pennsylvania trying to do something similar. texas legislature looking at everything that worked in last election and deciding to make it illegal. there are state leaders, civil rights leaders went to the white house to plead with the president and vice president for leadership on the federal level. appears on tuesday in philadelphia joe biden is going to say something about voting rights in america. what can he say, what can he do? >> he can do is say things. essentially all the power he has. that's exactly what those civil rights leaders said to him yesterday. wanted to hear him use his bully pulpit more than he has. tasked vice president kamala harris -- she asked to lead on voting rights, but when it comes to legislation, it's over and dead. that's what happened with not allowing debate, republican blocking debate on the for the people act, democracy reform.
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john lewis advancement act hasn't even really been written in the house or senate. so there's not a lot of legislative push. civil rights leaders spoke with him for hour and 40 minutes, not supposed to be that long, we were all waiting. when they came out said they know they have to take to the streets and build a public campaign. what was interesting, they reminded a lot of us of the '60s. said when it looked dire, when civil rights, asking for civil rights, kept pushing and pushing and something happened. that is what they're bringing to the table. president biden, he's going to on tuesday talk about voting rights. he's been promising to do something like this for a few weeks like you said at the top here. one thing i talked to some of the leaders in the meeting with them, they want to see what they saw when he was selling his infrastructure plan. go state to state to state, not just go to philadelphia, the
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birthplace of democracy but also georgia, texas, go to some of these states where voting restrictions are being put in place. white house hasn't said if that's what they're planning on. but they have to do more or see more frustration from civil rights leaders. >> susan, you've written about rise in crime and concerns about that over the country. supervised or unsupervised release from prison because of covid, lot of police retired or resigned in wake of the social justice movements of the last year. continues to be a concern. what's your takeaway from how this plays out in america? >> we did a national poll this week. number one concern on the minds of people are crime and public safety. but it is different from the kind of traditional tough on crime response we've seen in the past. much more concern about criminal justice, equal rights, equal protection and treatment by the
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police of people of all races than we've seen in previous iterations of concern about criminal justice -- it's complicated. people want to feel safe, have faith in the police but only 1 in 5 americans believe that police treat all races equally. that's a big erosion in support of the police than we've seen before and reflection of the past year after george floyd's murder and the massive protests that followed. >> thank you for that important reporting. susan page, eugene daniels and jeremy bash, thank you. coming up, dr. vin gupta on the cdc school guidances and the outreach pushback. as dramatic evidence piles up, republicans cast doubt on the house investigation into the riot. we get into the accountability
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it's a tough wall of hesitancy we see. we've been hit very hard in the sense that we have delta variant that came, and then our vaccination rate is not as high as it should have been. there's a we'riness out there. but more than the weariness i'm concerned about the misinformation, what we're really trying to counteract now. >> arkansas one of several states less than half the population received one dose of the vaccine. as the delta variant triggers more outbreaks, cdc recommending
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masking for schools but also calling for full reopening. one major shift is recommendation for physical distancing. advised the students be placed more than three feet apart. but caveat, could rely on combination of other strategies like indoor masking, testing and enhanced ventilation. dr. vin gupta, a critical care pulmonologist in seattle, also on the faculty of university of washington health metrics and evaluation. a lot of information coming out. emerging mores how to behave with new information about the delta variant that's hitting a lot of people who have not been vaccinated and it's hitting people in so-called breakthrough
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cases who have been vaccinated. put it together for us, give us your matrix of concern right now. >> good evening, ali, good to see you. top line, if you're fully vaccinated, with two doses of the vaccine, pfizer or moderna, in the united states, you're protected from the delta variant and severe outcomes like hospitalizations. truly end outcome we want to prevent. two doses is key. talk about the one dose johnson & johnson if you like. but this requiring a third dose is premature. dr. fauci and others pushed back on that appropriately so.
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cdc got the school thing right, you have to make the decisions bases on local conditions but don't want them to have to enforce the mask mandate. could have recommended indoor masking unless vaccines are fully approved. if mandate polio and rubella, probably going to mandate covid vaccines. could be the guide back to mandate i suspect is going to happen. i liked the emphasis on ventilation. cannot continue to distance, expect inner urban city school districts to distance. improving ventilation will help in short term and long term. >> come a long way since wiping everything down, realizing it's ventilation and airborne. that's big challenge you touched on it but very big. broken down inner city schools
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in this country with all sorts of problems. fixing ventilation is not a small one. >> you bet. high efficiency particle filtration systems, filters that people have probably never heard of. i'm a lung doc, i think about this stuff. but unless you geek out on it, don't know a lot about it. really expensive things as well. $30,000 to retrofit one public school in a large public school district, that's going to cost a lot. can't expect the public school districts to be able to fund on their own with the resources they have they have to focus on educational resources. federal government and cdc, going to say if you don't distance, mask, test and vent late, we need to provide public school districts with the resources. >> johnson & johnson was a
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fantastic idea for those who are hard to get them in place for second dose. telling me a little more to worry about with one dose johnson & johnson person relating to delta variant? >> we have to infer on the data we have. cdc and nih want to wait for clinical trial. take up to six months to determine if second dose is safe and effective for one shot. but england with one shot astro zen ka. it's robust protection and keeping you out of the hospital and against transmission. every one shot person here deserves the opportunity to get
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a second shot if they choose while they finish the trials. >> pfizer they want emergency use authorization around august for a booster shot. some suggest that was premature and caused a bunch of people to think they're going to need a booster of this thing. seems to be overlap of discussion you need booster because of the amount of time since you got initial pfizer shot and fact that this will be more effective against the delta variant. what am i supposed to glean from the pfizer announcement? >> put in personal terms. if you know somebody, loved one 65 years of age or older or immunocompromised condition like cancer or chemotherapy, they will be first in line for booster shot. long suspected they would need a third shot to two of pfizer or moderna. natural and no surprise. what was mistake was pfizer
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saying all of us need a booster shot in likely 12 months if not sooner. there's no evidence to that effect. two doses of pfizer and likely moderna keep you out of the hospital from delta. boosters are important for immunocompromised people and advanced age. rest of us, to be determined whether we need it. this is why it's important, ali. comment i get from most individuals yet to get the vaccine or thinking about it, why do i need so many shots? are pharmaceutical companies just trying to make a buck on me? this is going to worsen ability to address hesitancy, throwing out third shots without evidence. >> want to ask about -- talking to aye la stanford, getting people trusted to break people's vaccine resistance, the white house suggested it and puzzled by the response. lauren calling it nazi needle
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people and governors pushing back on the idea that people might talk to people to overcome their vaccine hesitancy. >> i'm not sure what they're afraid of. i've seen it work. whenever i've been doing it, seen it work and witnessed others. what we need is especially for those unvaccinated, tend to be younger people. need to change their threat perception. they're think covid-19, the strain that put mom and dad and grandpa and grandma in icu, not the delta variant and threat to them in their home. when we address their concerns, it does work. not sure what they're afraid of. >> and no one is going door-to-door to jab people with injections, it's a conversation. thanks for being with us. as always. vin gupta a doctor in seattle. coming up more than six months after the insurrection, capitol hill police still
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even if the justice department is warning the former president's false claims about the election might fuel further violence, seeing first time brutal new video. rioters dragging capitol police
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officers into the mob. we warn you this is hard to watch. >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. with us to talk more, robert gibbs, foreman obama senior adviser and white house press secretary. bill kristol, author, writer and thinker, politico, veteran of administers. this video flies in the face of those, including mccarthy but
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other republicans who said this is a tourist visit, not serious, this was blm or antifa. seeing every week more serious matters how the people egged on by donald trump doing things that looked like insurrection. >> they were there to support trump's effort to overturn the election, he engaged in it behind-the-scenes with pressure on the election officials and publicly with the rhetoric about the big lie. he spoke to them and didn't help guard the capitol or try to call them off in serious way for two to three hours. it's very important to lay out what happened and donald trump's responsibility for much of what happened. hopefully the committee will do that. >> robert, this is interesting because it comes right at moment
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that capitol police are looking to expand their mandate, provide more safety for members of congress and need more money. running out of salary money, been a number of capitol police who left, short of the normal contingent they should have and far short of the contingent that general russell honore thought they would be needing. fencing is coming down around the capitol, president not had a ton to say about this. should he? >> yeah, i think he almost certainly will as this commission gets under way. and i think the chairman of the new commission stated today that first witnesses he would call and we would hear from as country first are many of the police officers, some of whom may have been in the video you just showed. i think those searing images we saw little more than six months
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ago and heartfelt testimony we're surely going to hear in a couple of weeks from those law enforcement officers are going to spur action around the security needs that we know fell short on january 6th, and to make sure it absolutely never happens again. there's a lot to uncover in this commission. we need to know a lot about intelligence failures, what happened in terms of organization around these groups that planned and executed that, and i think hearing that directly from law enforcement will be extremely impactful. >> bill, play this out. mccarthy has three options, ignores it and doesn't fill five seats on the committee and says it wasn't a bipartisan committee. fills it with five republicans who are fighters and will keep this about something else and managed this far, got people that can do that. or five reasonable people who would like to get to bottom of
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exactly what happened on january 6th and how it should never happen again. what happens and how does he play it? >> might be mix of semireasonable people and trump loyalists but we know what republican party in the house thinks, fewer than 20% voted for commission that would have been evenly divided. no subpoena power unless member from other party came along. 37 house republican votes out of 210 members or something like that. failed in the senate with seven of 50 supporting, came back with a select committee and got two republican votes. liz cheney and -- doesn't want investigation into january 6th and what led up to it. that's the key. violence on the 6th is awful but what the president did over two months and what he and republican party are still doing is key.
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i don't think the democrats can count on much help from the republicans apart from liz cheney. >> how did the democrats make this into a valid exercise? tried with bipartisan commission, had bipartisan support until it didn't go anywhere in the senate. how does nancy pelosi move this forward so that it feels like something with a conclusion that pins the responsibility on anybody who needs to hold responsibility for this, to allow us to move forward? >> i think she has started that by appointing very serious investigators and given them the mission to uncover the truth. you know, it's very similar to the approach she took when -- even though she was skeptical around the benghazi commission, it's a similar situation that kevin mccarthy finds himself in. she was skeptical of what it
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might produce but appointed serious legislators and investigators that acted in a serious way around this investigation. so i think for her, and she understands this, methodical, truthful, fact based. i think that's what she's set out to do, i think that's exhibited in appointments she's made. she's made this commission bipartisan, liz cheney is going to be very active in this commission and i think it will uncover things that will shock all of us. i don't know what those are, but the republicans are fighting this hard enough to know that there is something in there that will really jar us. >> kevin mccarthy would have you all believe that liz cheney has become a lefty liberal lover. we'll all find that's not actually the truth. bill, good to see you, robert, you as well. guests staying with us longer on this friday night. coming up, working weekend for
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because this is our shot... getting back together. the reality is that what we see happening in texas is not just texas. this is going on in the entire country. so i really do implore our lawmakers to understand that democracy is on the line. this filibuster issue, we need to hand bel that to save our very democracy we say we love so much in this country. >> texas republicans are gearing up for second attempt to pass some of the strictest voting restrictions in the country. first bill temporarily killed when democrats staged a walkout in may as it was going to be passed. governor greg abbott summoned them back for special session to finish the job. still with us, robert gibbs and
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bill kristol. there are clearly some republicans in this country who do not want the stain of this being what republicans do now. promulgate the big lie and enact restrictive voting rights. how does this get dealt with? federal thing, enough republicans at federal level join with democrats to stop this nonsense we're seeing in texas, going to see in pennsylvania, seeing in georgia and michigan and arizona from continuing? >> been involved in group republicans for voting rights and we have good reactions from actual republicans. recently former republicans around the country. elected officials, some want to restrict voting, some want the option of overturning the results in the state legislature or house of representatives. others just don't want to do anything much and don't want to
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talk about it. want to pretend there's no problem. there are a few courageous republicans who stood up after november 3rd, did right thing in michigan, georgia, arizona, all being attacked and challenged in primaries and getting little support from republicans in their states or around the country. problem with -- only some of the republicans, i don't know how many, believe the big lie, others not willing to stand up to it. >> how does one take advantage of the fact that lot of republicans don't. casually believe there's a voter fraud issue in the country but don't share the view that joe biden didn't legitimately win the election, what is way to make this more partisan effort. in republican-controlled legislatures at state level this is getting out of control. >> yeah, i think you're going to have to see this happen really at the dnc level, political
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level. i think you saw this happen earlier in the week with vice president harris announcing a renewed effort at democratic national committee to take this on as an issue. to think about how to register more voters, fight suppression. how to get back into the court system. i think the challenge that you heard from bill and others is this isn't likely to get solved legislatively as much as democrats would want it to, as legislators in states would want. will have some success in the courts. supreme court recently ruled against fixing the arizona law, but state courts have been better in doing this. i think this is going to have to be an election issue. going to have to be a political issue. you have to have campaigns explaining to voters one to one the reason they're trying to take your voice away, why is
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that? they don't want you to participate. got to be a rallying cry that gets people to the polls. >> and i've got a minute left, this is not popular, even amongst republicans in arizona, now pennsylvania republicans are starting down recounting and auditing road. it is not something rank and file republicans seem that into. >> some are, but some aren't. again, i more hopeful for legislation in washington than some people. talking about this last few days, there's a chance that manchin and sinema will rethink opposition to the filibuster when they see how the republicans are being. people who believe in voting
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♪ me and you listening to the rain ♪ ♪ me and you we are the same ♪ ♪ me and you have all the fame we need ♪ ♪ indeed, you and me are we ♪ ♪ me and you singing in the park ♪ ♪ me and you, we're waiting for the dark ♪ u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan set to be complete by august 31st, doesn't leave much time to process and evacuate the thousands of interpreters who worked for the u.s. military. with the taliban gaining ground, their situation is becoming more urgent. richard engel has the report tonight. >> reporter: taliban took over two more afghan border crossings and claim to control 85% of
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afghanistan, may be exaggeration, not by much. fighting to control the majority of the country. as the afghan army fractures and surrenders, left behind thousands of afghan contractors and translators the taliban considers traitors. yesterday president biden had message for them. >> there is a home for you in the united states if you so choose, we will stand with you, just as you stood with us. >> reporter: in kabul, i met tom, what u.s. troops called him. did you hear president biden's promise? >> i got a lot of news and announcements but no action. >> reporter: lived in close quarters with u.s. troops and has reams of recommendation letters. helped translate for and sometimes defend forces on 150 combat missions. >> told me tom get behind me,
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show me the enemies. >> reporter: pointing out the taliban? >> yes. >> reporter: commander vouches for him. wrote a letter for his recommendation. >> owe a debt to tom and interpreters who fought alongside us. >> reporter: tom waiting for visa for four years. >> really hard process. >> you helped the u.s., now the u.s. needs to help you, simple as that. >> yes. u.s. need help, we helped them. right now we need help, so u.s. army, u.s. government have to help us. >> reporter: seems reasonable. ali reached out and told his visa is in administrative processing still. he said that translators have already been killed, including a colleague killed on the way to pick up his visa. >> another night of remarkable
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why shouldn't we as a human race be able to go into space and marvel at the world, and have the experience of a lifetime? that's only happened to 500 people roughly since space travel started. we hope to enable hundreds more. >> before we go, sir richard branson, fulfilling his dream of rocketing to edge of space on sunday. join crew aboard virgin galactic's unity spaceship two vehicle, traveling across the boundary between earth's atmosphere and space. three to four minutes of
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