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>> i love it. zaila has many other talents. she holds three guiness world records for juggling basketballs and has some really impressive goal. >> i want to do something like going to harvard to play basketball and maybe going to wnba or overseas or something before i go into my next thing of like working with nasa or something like that. >> she's so cute. that is tonight's reid out. all in with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in." >> ask yourself if you have a problem with this. they will knock on your door and demand you take it. his administration is panicking and infiltrating our lives. >> the deadly consequences of right wing backlash politics as the door knocking starts and schools begin mandate vaccines. then.
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>> new video of the hand to hand combat at the capitol as we get a date for the first select me hearing. what we know about what the biden administration is planning after yesterday's voter rights summit at the white house. one senator is filling the blank space of republican ideas with culture war nonsense. >> if we have marxism, you are going to be first ones who will be cut off. taylor swift would be the first victim. >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. the way that right wing politics work s the main per va yours are sniffing out new messages to find what agitates their shrinking base. they are like truffle pig. we saw this with donald trump.
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we see it with the host of fox news who will follow the base where it leads them. we are seeing this play out in those folks mobilization against the vaccine. it seems hard to believe but it was not all this way. here are the host of fox and friends back in may talking about getting vaccine. >> i understand there are people that have vaccine hesitancy but we all three are vaccinated. i will tell you when i got it, it was like okay. >> a relief. >> exactly. now i know i'm not going to get it. i'm in the going to die from it if i get it. there's small percentage of chance you can get it. >> it's the people who have not gotten the shot which ultimately they are the ones who are in peril. >> good for them. seriously. that's a good message. i'm glad they told every one. hopefully some people went out and got the vaccine after seeing that. i told you all when i got the vaccine, shared my celebration dance. rachel maddow talked about getting the vaccine. a lot of my colleague and friends. i've loved that content.
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i feel comfortable talking about it. i was desperate to get it. i think it's protecting me and my family. looking back it's hard to see that same fox and friends clip from may happening now and that's because as the republican conservative base continues to view the vaccine through the lens of the royaling backlash politics, it's cultivated by right wing media and the hosts like tucker carlson comparing it to forced sterilization. this is being done with a tremendous degree of bad faith. tucker carlson will not say whether he's been vaccinated. ben smith asked the question. whether he got the vaccine. this was tucker's reply. when was the last time you had sex with your wife and in what
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position? we can trade intimate details. i'll take that as a really weird yes. what's going on here? what are you hiding? people talk about this all the time. ask your colleagues on fox and friends. it's not scary. the right has started to build up this cult of privacy and personal choice just around the vaccine which i will note is in direct opposition on their position of abortion in every way. they bought up with questions, flirtation, cultivation of anti-vax feeling that will lead to more unnecessary death and it's already doing that. the most recent study says the accelerated vaccine schedule under the biden administration saved nearly 300,000 lives. 300,000 lives. take a second to take that in. we lost 600,000 people to covid. some number of that was entirely unnecessary. accelerated vaccination saved 300,000 lives.
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a dean of brown university school of public health pointed out, we have evidence the benefits of vaccinations born out in south dakota and vermont. they demonstrate perfectly the stark difference between the states. vermont and south dakota are quite similar. they have republican governors. this is not partisan. these days they look super similar on current infection. those states are in a pretty good place right now. he explains it's how they got to that place that matters. vermont vaccinated more of its population. south dakota is in middle of states at 51%. because south dakota and the governor followed the donald trump get out in the battlefield and vermont from the giping has followed the fight the virus and get vaccinated route, the two states ended up in a similar
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place in case resistance but the cost of many more lives in south side south dakota who did not have to die. nearly six times as many people in south dakota died of covid as in vermont. they didn't need to die. they did because of choices that their leaders made. right now one of the biggest challenges of the young people inclined to feel invincible. we know they are lagging in vaccination. they were to get into the colleges there's all kinds of things you can and can't do. requiring admitted students to do things before they come to college is part of what going to college is. vaccinations as many universities have done. it's not crazy out and out line with a lot of other things frp a minute just consider where covid
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is most happy. covidtings with lots of people crowded indoor, going to clubs, getting drunk and basically i just described a college dorm. last year we saw a ton of college outbreaks. they spread to communities. i want to play you this incredible snapshot of the problem from miami university of ohio last fall. >> how many people are in the house? >> like ten of them just came by. they are going somewhere else. 20. >> 20 people inside. >> i've never seen this before. you tested positive for code vitd. >> yes. >> when was this? >> a week ago. >> are you supposed to be quarantines? >> that's why i'm out of the house. >> you have other people here and you're positive for covid. you see the problem? >> yeah. >> how many other people have covid? >> everybody has it.
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that's what we're trying to prevent. we want to keep the town open. >> that's why i'm staying home. i just walked down. >> there are probably century people, seven or eight people that left your house when you told them to leave. you're not quarantining if you're mixing with other people. everybody here has it? oh, my god. >> yes, officer. i know that's why i was having a house party in my house. that's how i was quarantining. all of this to say, if there is one place you would want to mandate vaccines, it would be on college campuses. that seems pretty reasonable. yet, there's already a pro-active right wing movement in place to make sure that doesn't happen. republican governors, texas, georgia, arizona have ordered public universities not to mandate vaccinations.
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an indiana university announced in the spring it will require all students to be vak si flated. they lobbied the governor to block the move. the president of purdue university, former republican governor of the state last april when the u.s. pandemic was still in its first wave he was announcing they would open in person in fall. mitch daniels announced his university and more than 45,000 students will not require vaccines in the fall. now, i don't know how that's going to turn out. i hope well. maybe people are vaccinated already. again, the principal here is extremely hard to determine. particularly since this defensive private body autonomy is not a watch word among conservative republicans when it comes to the extremely high stakes intimate personal health decision of a woman's pregnancy. it sure seems like the principal is just backlash politics. we perceive that liberals are trying to get you vaccinated,
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which is not true, so don't take the vaccine. it doesn't have to be this way. it's not been this way for lot of people who voted for all different kind offense people who probably don't see eye to eye to on anything. that's fine. it's a big country. people disagree. just look at the host on fox and friends. again, this is an active choice by an almost cynical set of political actors to harness the backlash politics in pursuit of more sickness and more death. i'm joined now by dean of brown university school of public health which is requiring all students to be vaccinated in fall. again, i don't spend as much time studying this as you do. my perception is that there's been a acceleration towards this view over time as we have gotten
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further into the biden administration of this kind of just asking questions, trollingly opposition to any pro-vaccine moves. is that a fair characterization? >> that's exactly right. it has -- it started asking questions, opposing public health measures, undermining it. there was a switch in may that tucker carlson said the vaccine was killing thousands of people. a minor theory circulating online. he gave it a lot of push. that is when things started to shift over at fox news. it's just intensified and amplified. >> i should just be clear here about what he did. i think it's worst taking a second to talk about how dishonest and despicable it was. there's a public record of vaccine outcomes that's traced. million of people are getting the vaccine so some percentage of those people die after getting the vaccine in the same way people when you're vaccinating seniors die or get
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sick. this started online. people taking those examples and saying, look. two plus two equals four. the vaccine is killing people. it's like deeply, deeply stupid to misunderstand that intentionally or not. that was what was being done, right? >> that's correct. it was a conspiracy theory. he did it on purpose. he said a lot of this is intentional. >> can we talk about the sort of contours of mandates because again, i'll sort of hop to the other side and briefly argue against myself which i can see ways in which mandates in certain environments might be counter productive or might make people feel like they are being pushed and persuasion and outreach is probably a better way to go. i'm curious your view of mandates broadly and in the narrow context of colleges and universities. >> persuasion is always the
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first effort. i think we have tried that and we got to continue trying that. i'm not saying we're done there. we are fighting a pretty well organized, very well funded anti-vax movement that has ulterior motives. it's not trying to promote freedom or choice. for universities, for businesses, they have a very specific choice. do they want to create a safe environment for their workers to come back. do they want to create a safe environment for their students? do they want to have masks and social distancing. brown university, our president said i want a normal fall. i want a normal semester and that meant mandating vaccines for everybody. also faculty and staff. that's what will be essential. that will drive a lot more vaccinations. companies and businesses and people will decide they are tired of all the restrictions and the best way to get rid of the restrictions is to get people vaccinated.
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>> just to follow up on that and i will say that i went to the university that you are now the dean of public health and i remember when i was getting mail my freshman year saying here a million things you have to do. these are non-negotiatable things you have to do. it wasn't like it's personal freedom. show up however you want and just do your thing. even at brown, which sort of values that. do you think there's actual like, there's real marginal gains to be made here with institutional mandates, not government ones? >> absolutely. we can look to like the houston methodist hospital in houston, texas that mandated for its workers. 99.5% of workers ended up getting vaccinated. most people who are resisting are not willing to lose their jobs, not willing to lose out ongoing to college. i think people will do it. we have seen this with other
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mandates with measles vaccines. i think this is how we will get a large majority of people vaccinated when companies, businesses, hospitals, step up. >> what is driving this? i talked about the truffle pig for reactionary politics. i sense they are following where people are on this more than leading them there. what's your sense? >> i think that it is worth keeping in mind it's not just an anti-vax. they are building something anti-public health measure, avoiding the vaccine is part of it but flouting whole other support services connected to it. if you think about what happened in the 2020 election, trump's theory was he could expand his base by bringing in a couple of new people by going further down into the swamps and pulling them in. you expand your base by pulling in people who are really far out on the edges.
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they are harnessing power on fringe. >> that's an interesting phrase and useful one. thank you both. >> thank you. six months on, the january 6th attack hold a space in our minds. on one hand it feels like almost it's continuously unfolding in the political context of what huge part republican party and conservative movement are doing. today the doj released brand new footage from one of the most violent battles of the attack. it's a piece of history we're trying to understand. just this week, a new item to the collection of january 6th artifacts. this blue suit seen here as he stayed late into night picking up the pieces after the attack. my interview in that new video right after this break. in thato right after this break
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i'm sure this isn't something money can't solve? what the fudge? oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh! today just more than six months after the violent insurrection attempt at the capitol, crews started to take down some of the last security fencing around the building which is a welcome sight. it should be an accessible place to the public. the justice department released more body cam video showing the brutal attack on police. the police tried to hold back the crowd and keep them outside the building. in case you've been misinformed about the nature of the crowd, warning, this video is extremely violent.
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>> you're going to die. >> you're going to die tonight is what you heard there. investigative reporter has been tracking all these developments and joins us with the layist. what's the context for these new release offense video? >> chris, these videos are very important. in the next few days you'll see a number of defendants try to get themselves released from jail pending trial. after half a year they are getting uncomfortable there. federal prosecutors are submitting these videos to try to hold these defendants. they were submitted in the cases of jeff sable and jack whitten. the video show police being beaten on the front lines, dragged into the mob.
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these video wrs effective. judges ordered them to be held. he's the man who said you're going to die to police. sab lerks had zip ties, steel toed boots, radio and ear piece and came ready for battle upset about the 2020 elections. in this beating gave one officer a massive head wound that required staples to fix. when the officers were dragged into the crowd, he was stripped his radio, stomped, beaten. these videos are visceral. they give you a new angle but they are also relevant. that's where we are in the cases. arguments over who to hold until trial. the trial themselves might not be until 2022. >> it's really remarkable to look at this. the only thing i can think of is game of thrones because it's a style of intensely brutal hand to hand combat. just complete melee. there's a woman, one of the people at the capitol who has passed out and would be
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pronounced dead later there. the crowd is rushing over her and she lays prone. it's really, really grizzly stuff. great reporting. thank you. >> thank you. one of the lawmakers inside the capitol when it was stormed, democratic congressman andy kim of new jersey. late that night after the insurrectionists cleared out, he was photographed on his hands and knees helping clean up damage. that blue suit has now been donated to the smithsonian at their request and he joins me. it's good to have you. i know you have talked about this before. you and i never had an opportunity to talk about it. i thought a lot about those images which are haunting about what was going through your mind that night when you were doing it. >> thanks, chris. honestly, not much was going
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through my mind as i was so still reeling from the day. everything was very instinctual. seeing this beautiful room and this gorgeous building, this temple of our democracy and seeing that room in such shambles with debris and garbage everywhere. i remember cigarette butts put out on statues. i felt an instinct to do what i can. it was trying to right the wrongs as quickly as possible which is why i did what i did. >> how did this go down? the smithsonian reached out to you about this? >> that's right. the smithsonian reached out shortly after the insurrection and asked me about the possessions i had on me and requested the suit. i thought about it. i honestly was pretty caught off guard. the suit itself is not a
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remarkable suit. i bought it to wear to the inauguration. it's off the rack from j crew. something i got on sale during the holidays. never something i thought would be at the smithsonian. my actions were ordinary actions. there was a mess there at the capitol and i wanted to clean it up. i never thought that would be a story that should be told. talking to the smithsonian, it was something i realize was an image that gave people a sense of hope and resilience on a tragic and dark day in our democracy. >> you represent a district that is a swing district. i think it's fair to say you'll probably have a pretty competitive race in these midterms. you'll be what we call a front line target, i imagine there in new jersey. what is the mood in your district in a place where your re-election is not guaranteed
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where people have a broad spectrum of political beliefs? >> my district is one that trump won. a lot of people are sick and tired of the contempt in our politics. they just look at this and how have we gotten this bad. how has our country got to this point where we are literally thinking of each other as the enemy? while my district is front line district in that way, considered to be competitive, it's not battle space. it's not a place where we are waging war against each other. it's actually a place that is sick and tired of just the
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politics of hate and just frankly this addiction to anger that we have as nation right now. >> congressman, andy kim, represents his district in new jersey, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. coming up, with voter access under siege in states across the country, is president biden doing enough? what can he do? my next guest met with the president pushing for more action, next. for more action, next ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪
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this is about all voters. this is not about democrats or republicans. this is about americans. let's be clear about that. who is prepared right now to stand up for what we say are some of our fundamental values. some of the fundamental pillars to a democracy, to our
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democracy. this is the fight of our lifetime. this is fight of our lifetime. >> at a meeting with civil rights leaders yesterday, vice president kamala harris laid out in stark term the urgency of the voting rights crisis. 17 states have already passed restrictive new voting laws controlled by republican governors and legislature. similar bills are under consideration in dozens of others. with' kwaul access with the ballot under attack, voting rights legislation currently being stalled in the senate because of a republican filibuster. civil rights leaders are ringing the alarm without major federal reform, before the next election cycle, the united states could see further drastic democratic erosion. joining me is wade henderson. they was there for yesterday's meeting.
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maybe you can start telling us what the meeting was like, what the agenda was and what the exchange was like. >> it's important to note the president convened this meeting after a shared belief that american democracy is in peril like nothing we have seen in the modern era. it was the president that recognized much is at stake for reasons you mentioned and the supreme court's decision of last week putting yet again another hold, gaping hole in the voting rights act of 1965. those things taken together pose the greatest threat to american democracy that we have seen. for our part the civil rights community made clear that we need the president to lead congress to act and we need for the people act and the john lewis voting rights advancement act and they must be done urgently now. time is of the essence. we can't afford a significant delay. we can't allow the arcane senate
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rule of the filibuster to stand in the way of producing important legislation that a majority of americans support . failure is not a option. >>. >> did the president indicate anything on that. didn't get 50 votes of some modified version. get 50 votes for restoration of sections four and five. you can only do it without getting rid of the filibuster. is the president behind that? >> i think the president heard this. he understands better than anyone how the senate operates. he was a senator for many years.
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he's an expert in senate procedure. he understands what is at stake and he's prepared to use his authority to help bring about a change. without going into specifics, i think we both agree, we all agree that failure is not an option and that what is needed will be done to help ensure that these bills become law. in addition to what you said about the voting rights act, we also believe that congress has the ability to repair the damage done from last week's voting rights decision. it gives congress the ability to over ride that and accomplish its own procedures in every way but for the election or places where senators are elected. from our standpoint, the constitution is on our side and we can repair the damage done to
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the voting rights act based on last week's decision. i think the president understands what's at stake and he's prepared to give voice to those concerns. he announced he is speaking on tuesday. he's made that commitment to use his power and his voice to make this an important issue for the american people. >> i want to read briefly from the dissent. she says what is tragic is the court has yet begin rewritten in order to weaken what stantds and protects against the impulses. that is manager maddening watching the roberts court this signature law that really facilitated the first real sustained period of multi-racial democracy in our history. >> that's absolutely correct.
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that's what is at issue. what we saw in the 2020 election was the full flower of americans diverse democratic electorate coming to power. what's at stake here is something far more important than the partisan divide between democrats and republicans. that's why this issue was so critical. >> all right. wade henderson, thank you so much. defunding the sedition caucus. the public campaign that made toyota reverse course and what it will make to keep them accountable, after this.
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ceding the electors or suspending donations all together. two weeks ago we brought you this story about toyota. toyota actually had a strange distinction and a noble one they lead company in objection donations. another story. this comes yesterday. toyota will stop donating to republicans who objected to election certification. i wish all in chris hayes segments were that effective. it's more than that. they reversed themselves and says something of the political moment we're in. i want to discuss it with our panel.
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we'll just get back and got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. it's significant they reversed themselves. >> it's because they're like it's no big deal. the fact it was an insurrection on a certified fair election. no one is paying attention. let me start playing both sides of the aisle because i'll need favors. that was toyota's mind set. what the lincoln project said this is different. this is not politics as usual. we are not trying to say that we are preventing you from advancing a policy. what we're trying to say is you're now funding people who don't believe in our democracy. i don't think that toyota expected that light to be shown on them so visibly and the fact they are technically a foreign company, it just didn't sit well
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with majority of i believe congress itself and the american people. i believe that's why they stepped back. they are not the only ones funding the insurrectionists. we have to have a conversation around what is acceptable and this idea that not funding individuals who don't believer in our democracy of fair election should be a bit of a start. that's something we should be able to agree on across party lines. >> yeah, i think that's the key. the specialness and specificity of the violation represented in that single vote which i think was palpable in the aftermath but keeping it alive, i think is difficult and partly difficult because it's the majority of republican members of congress voted that way but i think have no regrets about it. having people understand that crossed some line that you can't recover from unless you ask for forgiveness. >> yeah. actually, i think keeping it alive is one of the concerns i
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have about pursuing corporate accountability as a strategy. it's like, yes, i think boycotts work but they only work as long as the companies feel as though they are being scrutinized by the public. it's really hard to expect consumers to maintain that constant vigilance over what company is doing what, where. you have to do this in conjunction with big, sweeping reforms. that's why we need a huge campaign finance system that works, that has really district disclosure requirements that sets limits on corporate donation and dark money so we know what's going on. it's really hard to ask your average person to keep in touch with what every fortune 500 company is donating their money to. you have to do both things at once for it to be effective.
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>> it's important to understand that in its fullness and what it represented. if you take that out of the picture and that never happened, vote itself is one of the most dangerous, treacherous votes and precedents set in recent american history and we see, you can see it coming a million miles away in 2024. >> yeah, for sure. i think that's what's really interesting about that vote is that toyota originally said in statement when called out on their donations we don't hold these members to just that one vote as far as giving donations. that's not our threshold of the level it will take the kauft our money to the candidates. i feel like that's something really tracked with people who
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cast the vote at the time. republican politics is so much about optics instead of reality much like the texas challenge to the election that went the supreme court, the supreme court laughed it out of the chamber but over 100 republicans signed onto the texas attorney general's attempt to over turn the election. i feel like they had the same mind set going into this vote for certification. this idea that what does it matter. biden will still become president. i'll look good in terms of my constituency. it doesn't turn out that way. it's become this black stain on their record that i really think many of them were not expecting. corporations who are placing bets with their donations through their action committees on who will win, they spread it across both parties for that reason. they weren't prepared for how serious that one vote really was either. they have yet to process what that vote against certification really means. now i feel like they are going to really get the message.
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>> yeah. i think there's a real benefit to staying vigilant about this. crew has been tracking the money going into the pockets of the 147 members. you can see that the donations went away and they have come back from january 1 to the end of may. that includes the nrcc which are sort of broad committees across the entire party. those folks are back to normal. that really is the problem. i want you guys to stick around. i want you to respond to just an incredible, incredible tour de force sound from senator marshbush to describe when why the marxist revolution comes taylor swift will be first up against the wall, next. st up against the wall, next
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. when i'm talking to my friends who are musicians and entertainers, i say, if, if we have a socialistic government, if we have marxism, you are going to be the first ones who will be cut off because the state would have to approve your music, and, you know, taylor swift came after me in my 2018 campaign. but taylor swift would be the first victim of that because when you look at marxist socialist societies, they do not allow women to dress or sing or be on stage or to entertain or the type music that she would have. >> yeah, everything about that, taylor, i bet you haven't. so here is the thing that i love
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about that clip and is broadly representative. honestly, i think that the huge animating grievances of the conservative movement right now are cultural. they don't like the fact that taylor swift is a liberal and they don't like the fact that corporations tweet black lives matter and the fact that there are commercials about, you know, racial equality and they don't like the fact that they feel that the commanding heights of american culture are occupied by people who are not them and they are not even wrong in that way in some ways. like the cultural sensibilities of people who occupy the commanding heights of american culture notnaga heads, but there is no political solution for it. there is a weird mismatch that all of the animus is riled up by the fact that taylor swift is not a conservative but there is nothing you can do about it. you have this very weird thing
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like the, like, fuel for the grievance is completely detached from any policy program you could ever imagine. what you get are like the fight, these constant battles about critical race theory in school or hollywood or woke capital, whatever, because that's the thing you're mad about and there is no solution for it. >> i mean, they could try to pass laws about all of these things. they're trying to pass laws against critical race theory. but you run up against the first amendment, the freedom of speech. >> good point. >> so they keep trying to -- they want to have this world where they can be socially very conservative and fiscally who knows anymore, but there is nobody to turn that into any sort of policy agenda so they are ranting about socialism and apparently there have been no communist artist women ever which is really confusing from senator blackburn. i don't know where they are trying to go with this except
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they think it will help them stay in power because it's shared -- this is shared by the people they want to vote for them. once they are in office, they will stay in office because they will be able to say, well, i guess there is no socialism here so we are doing a great job, question mark? >> i also find that endurance of socialism marxism as the focal point of the attack, like, truly wild and somewhat baffling. mo brooks was at i question cpac, did two cpacs this year, i saw a speech of his in dallas warning about marks im. my departed grandfather, god bless him, roger haste sr., staunch anti-communist, big right winger, but he was around when there was a soviet union and a cold war. it's wild to me this has continued down through the generations as such a central talking point, meghan. >> that's right.
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and actually, like, on the merits, i don't think that taylor swift would be the first in line in the marxist revolution. i think she built up a lot of goodwill. >> true. no, she would. >> spending the last two years reclaiming ownership of her labor or songs, in this case. but you're right. it feels like there is a well big "wheel of fortune" that conservatives spin once a year and decide what cultural grievance they will bring up. actually, speaking of critical race theory, when i was in law school in 2012 i took a critical race theory class and we were reading derek bell and a big scandal that the right was trying to whip up was that barack obama in the '90s had hugged derek bell and was going to usher in this wave of, like, critical race theories in schools. so they kind of spun the wheel again, landed on critical race theory again, and they are just going to keep doing it. it's a great boogeyman for them because they don't have to
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define it. anything they don't like is critical race theory. so critical race theory, you know, voting is critical race theory, anything they don't like, harry potter books, whatever, that's all critical race theory and it fits neatly into this gigantic jug of grievance and it's very easy for them because they haven't really been able to get attacks on joe biden or other democratic leaders to stick. >> that's such a perfect point about biden. this is the other weird thing about the political discourse in the country right now. at this point in the obama presidency there was so much focus on obama. he riled up the base. and the tea party was like about barack obama. now it's like they don't -- there is not a black man who is president so they have to create, like, one of those, like, little voodoo avatars and name it whatever, critical race theory, because that will whip up the friends sfwli, honestly, that they are looking for because joe biden doesn't, maria. so, again, we are having a bunch
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of, like, sequential controversies whipped up to fuel that white backlash that can't find its object in joe biden in the way that it found it in barack obama. >> and i think, chris, if this was done in a vacuum where it was only conversation, i think it would be easier to shrug it off. but he created an amplification of her disinformation that folks are airing and it gets into our psyche. at the same time, what we see what's happening in washington and at the local level of the disenfranchisement of people of color and people who espouse these ideas in progressive policies, that's where the danger happens is one there is an amplification of disinformation that clearly taylor swift was not going to be the target of marxist society because blackburn's opponent was not marxist, he was a democrat. that amplification does get into people's inability to distinguish whether or not
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democrats are socialists, number one. at the same time these -- the republicans are actively trying to disenfranchise a vast majority of americans who he is space progressive policies, believe in climate change, who do believe that we should be talking about race, and recognizing there is implicit bias. that's the challenge. they have a lot of power and they are using it in strategic ways that we will fall victims to if we don't sound the alarm and saying the house is on fire. >> i'm now imagining what a taylor swift actual struggle session would look like that. i'm trying to conjure that. i will think about that over the weekend. thank you all for joining us. that is "all in" for this week. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> have a fantastic weekend, my friend. thank you. and thanks for you for joining this hour. a few days after the 2020 presidential election the lieutenant governor of the great state of texas, dan patrick,

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