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welcome back to "the beat." i'm jason johnson in for ari melber, really big show tonight. new details in the trump organization indictment and the legal pressure on trump's adult children. plus juvenile will be here to discuss how he wants all americans to vax that thing up this summer. but we begin tonight with a new warning from the doj that donald trump is inflaming the same right wing lies and paranoia that led to the insurrection and new video showing rioters
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dragging capitol police officers. this was released at the request of nbc and other organizations. i will warn you, it's hard to watch. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> that video comes as crews remove the fencing around the capitol erected following the attack. even as trump fuels the big lie fuelling conspiracy theories that spill over onto tv networks like fox. quote, trump continues to make false claims about the election and minimize the violent attack and television networks continue to carry and report on these
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claims. and here's tuck last night sympathizing with the insurrectionists. >> at some point they become political prisoners. i try not to use that phrase. you don't want to hype anything or politicize. but what at point does it become political? >> his gaslighting. these alleged terrorists accused of an insurrection. this new video released by the government and many others like it highlights that fact. these lies are a potential prelude to future violence, as republicans engulf themselves in this distorted white nationalist reality. joining me now is eugene robinson and michelle goldberg. michelle, i'm going to start with you. the republican party as a whole continues to defend people who try to overthrow the government, who tried to hang mike pence and who tried to basically discount
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the votes of millions upon millions of americans. i'm going to play this audio and get your thoughts on the other side. >> the only reason these people are being pursued this way is because of their political beliefs. >> people are being treated unbelievably unfairly when you look at people in prison. >> the doj is harassing -- harassing -- peaceful patriots across the country. >> political persecution by the department of justice and the fbi. >> so, here's the thing that gets me. obviously a lot of republicans were in favor of overthrowing the government. they don't consider democrats to be legitimate parts of the political process. that doesn't surprise me. but what part of the electorate do you think they're trying to talk to? i know some trump supporters. most trump supporters are not in favor of overthrowing the government. who are these republicans talking to when they praise
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these people? >> i think in donald trump's case, probably in paul gosar's case, they are expressing their legitimate admiration for these people. in fox news i think they're talking to their base. it is true, i suppose, that most trump supporters aren't in favor of the violent overthrow of the government. but most republicans do believe that biden's election was illegitimate. and i think you've seen this strange rewriting of history even just over six months where initially when the attack was so raw, it was so new and kind of raw and shocking, almost everybody tried to distance themselves from it. and yet over the last six months, they've developed this revisionist history and sort of martyrology around some of the people who died that day. so, they've gone from saying this was horrible, then antifa did it. then, this was unfortunate to this was justified. >> and that's the thing.
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i'm glad that you took us through that entire arc because not only were most republicans trying to distance themselves from this. they actually complained about it initially. during the impeachment hearing, they said donald trump, you were responsible for this. they tried to call the president to discourage him from this behavior. but now all of a sudden these folks are tourist who is got lost and couldn't find their brochures. this is the other part of this that's very strange to me. i remember all through last year republicans screaming and yelling the democrats want to defund the police. the democrats want to abolish the police. but right now on the capitol, you have republicans holding up funding for the capitol police. are democrats going to be smart and say that republicans are trying to defund the police now? are they going to be smart enough to use that? or is this more of the hypocrisy of the republican party that will go by the wayside? >> every democrat on capitol hill ought to be calling a news conference to talk about that,
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to talk about how the party of law and order, the party of keeping the thin blue line and all of that is -- will not adequately fund the capitol police. it's outrageous. first question to michelle. a lot of these republicans are talking to donald trump, talking to him, staying in his good graces. but it is, you know, look, we could talk endlessly about the dev lugs of the republican party into nothing but a cultive personality, a dangerous cultive personality at that. but this is a party that used to have law and order as its rallying cry. and the irony is it's beyond irony. >> irony left the building screaming. last time republicans cared about law and order, briscoe and waterson were still prosecuting cases on nbc. they haven't cared about that in a long time.
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i do think, michelle, i want to go back to this idea of this sort of defense and where this defense leads. so, every single national security analyst has been saying since january that was a test run, right? you've got 400 people have been arrested. not that many people have been jailed. it is a test run. what we saw at state capitols last summer over mask mandates is indicative of where these people could go. my question to you is, as republicans are engaging in this rhetoric, as they're continuing to promote the big lie, as they're continuing to say the country is run by evil, terrible globalists and things like that, do you think any of them fear potential backlash at home? because when these mobs break into state capitols, they're not making a distinction by party. do you think any republican worries some of this may splash back on them? >> i think maybe they're worried about that, again, in the immediate aftermath, right? i think that most republicans in congress are personally opposed to angry mobs breaking into
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congress and trying to drag people out to a homemade gallows. but as it's become a little bit more distant, i think, again, they fear that less than they fear a negative word from tucker carlson, a negative word from donald trump. i think again and again we've seen that they have tried to, you know, incite, you know -- incite doubt about the legitimacy of our democracy and assume that it will never actually come back to boomerang on their party. so, again, i think that what they fear is donald trump far more than they fear another angry mob. >> so, along those same lines, eugene, this is what's interesting to me. i get it if you're just a supporter of donald trump. they believe in him, they want him to be dictator for life, they like don, jr., all those things are fine. that makes sense. but here's the thing. how powerful -- i'm thinking
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from a campaign strategy standpoint. how powerful can trump really be to some of their local political futures when he's off social media? i remember for the last four years republicans would say the thing you fear is a tweet from donald trump. he can't tweet right now. all he can do is complain about you. why do some republicans continue to promote a lie when the consequences, when the wizard behind the curtain can't even yell at you anymore. >> how powerful is trump without twitter and facebook? i guess we'll find out. but clearly republican office holders think he's still powerful enough to end their careers. he's still powerful enough to support a winning primary challenge to them next year. that's what they think, and they're not going to get on the wrong side of that. and they've sort of -- they've made that bet and they keep doubling down on it. they've made that bet.
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i don't see how they get off it at this point. they're going to ride it. >> and i will say this. i don't think -- and i always want to make this point. i don't think enough americans recognize how tenuous our situation is. we just saw a world leader in haiti get killed. assassinations happen. violence occurs. when you're out talking to regular people, not folks highly involved in politics, how often do things like the insurrection even come up. because i also think some of this is a bubble in republican world. i think most people are still talking about buildings reopening and covid. p i don't know how many people are being driven in favor of the republican party or against them by discussions about something that happened six months ago. >> no, my sense is that it's a sort of people have moved past it even if they haven't forgotten or forgiven. where i do see a lot of anxiety among rank and file democrats is
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less about another insurrection than about a legally stolen election, right? you're seeing all of these both voter restrictions laws and laws that would make it easier for republican operatives to interfere with an election. meanwhile you have a supreme court that is increasingly hostile to the voting rights act. so, i think there is a sense of ambient doom about the future of our democracy that people don't quite know how to act on because we have two senators standing in the way of reform. people feel a lot of desperation but also i think a fair amount of hopelessness. >> yeah. nihilism might be creeping through if we don't see some sort of changes before the end of the year. thanks so much for starting off the show tonight. >> coming up, new heat in the trump kids in the trump organization. criminal probe with a new focus on ivanka trump. howard university president
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indictment and new questions surrounding the former president's children. new analysis of the indictment shedding light on more trump organization companies that could be in legal peril. seven companies exhibit a pattern of paying a substance shl portion of year-end bonuses to wisal berg and other executives as if they weren't employees. they claim the company knew it was wrong. and at one of those companies ivanka trump held an executive role for years. ivanka may be the next to flip. >> there will be other people who might be more willing to flip than allen, and i think among those might well indeed be my cousins. >> oh, interesting. like the trump kids? >> ivanka also received -- i don't remember the amount but it's in the thousands of dollars of consulting fees. that's not a thing.
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you're either an employee or you're not an employee. so, i think we're going to find a lot more of that kind of thing going on. and she's much less likely to stay loyal than allen weisselberg. >> joining me now is "daily beast" political reporter. he wrote that article. and former new york assistant attorney general trysten snell who prosecuted the trump university case. this is what i think is key in your great work from "daily beast." so, ivanka was in charge of one of these companies for eight years, key executive role. what are the chances that massive bonuses could be handed out to executives at the end of the year that don't seem to square with finances and she wouldn't know? that's what this boils down to. she's going to claim she didn't know or maybe she's going to say they were grabbing her laundry for her. what are the chances she could claim complete ignorance to
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those kinds of payouts at the end of the year. >> that actually i can't answer because i have no idea. but what i can tell you is that it's pretty likely that they're going to, you know, plead ignorance, take the ostrich with their heads in the sand, that they were not mauled with the day-to-day calls, the salaries, whatever like that. but what we also know is that ivanka trump was listed as an executive on this company and on dozens of companies. and the trump organization tried to blur the lines. she says, oh, we don't care about titles. we're not big about titles. she said that in a 2016 deposition. she said earlier this year apparently that she didn't quite know what allen weisselberg's role was with the company. so, you can sort of see that they're sort of paving that road. it be it remains to be seen what they would actually say if they
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were indicted or questioned by investigators. >> so, trysten, you prosecuted trump on the trump university case. my information is part of the shell game, the house of cards that trump does in businesses and organizations is give a bunch of people a bunch of different titles, they can get paid five ways even if they're not showing up. with that in mind, is it possible that that's what was happening with ivanka, that she was an executive in multiple companies and was collecting paychecks from lots of locations that she wasn't in? and if that's the case, is that similar to how trump was running trump university? >> very much so. i mean, the key is that the trump organization is the holding company, right? and then there are about 200 or 300 llcs that are all these subsidiaries. each one runs a particular business. so, the ones that were identified in the indictment and that roger wrote about, those are all llcs, each of which
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managed one property or one business and then had, you know, at most a couple hundred employees in each of those businesses. so, each of these things was basically treated as just another division of the trump organization, even though it was supposed to technically be a separate company. and we actually got a ruling in the trump university case. we sued the trump organization and we sued donald trump in our case. and we did get an intermediate ruling in that case that said that the trump organization and donald trump were liable for trump university's misdeeds, so that even though trump university was broke, trump org and donald trump were still going to have to pay up personally. >> so, what you're saying in laymen's terms is imagine like a mcdonald's but they have a separate burger company and a separate fries company and a separate mcnuggets company but they're all handing around the same finances so they can't get caught. that's more or less how he tries
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to set these things up? >> yeah, the kicker there is why does he set it up this way? it's so that one of the businesses -- and this happened with trump u -- could go under and they could be like, well, that went under, so we're not going to pay that thing's expenses or even valid debts anymore. but to bring it back to ivanka, the kicker is it's not necessarily a problem if she's getting paid by a bunch of these different entities. the problem is that she was an employee and then also getting money as an independent contractor so that the trump organization could avoid paying payroll taxes on all of that employee comp. that's the problem here is the tax evasion that went on here. and it was clear that it was rampant throughout the company for well over a decade and that it happened with weisselberg. it probably happened with jeff mcconnie, who we believe now to be indicted coconspirator number one. and the question is is ivanka one of those executives.
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>> trysten just mentioned trump, this is how he pays for things. i want to play this video talking about the generosity of his father and trying to set the stage for -- he was trying to put his kids to work and help people out as opposed to hide money. >> my father after almost 50 year of employment paid for his grand kids' private school in new york city. my dad did that because he's a good guy. takes care of his employees. >> i don't know if that's from cameo or only fans. i don't know why don does these kinds of videos. i've got to ask you, is that a real defense? can you basically say my grandpa was nice enough to pay for his kids' school and that explains why he pays for employees. who is don, jr., talking to when he makes these sorts of defenses? >> just being generous doesn't mean you didn't commit a crime amid your generosity. what we have here is what you
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could classify as generosity but what prosecutors say is a crime. and what we see with the bonuses, which is what my report is about at "the daily beast," that those bonuses appear to have been improperly paid out to his employees. and we know weisselberg for sure. on the other side we have the company's responsibilities for this. so, yeah, you could say end of the year bonus, great job. you get a hefty bonus. but how did you give that bonus? and why did you choose this method that is improper? the prosecutors also say in the indictment this is key, that it was a practice across the trump organization. and then they named seven of those companies. they named them. they didn't have to do that. they didn't name all the companies. they named seven. and one of those companies does have ivanka as a vice president. the others also have different connections to the trump kids.
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and we already know that from "new york times" reporting last year that ivanka did take consultant fees when she was not an employee, or "the times" reported that. so, if we see that practice across the board, this new company is different from the "new york times" report. it's connected to a hotel just like the "times" was, but this was a different company. and the setup could be similar. we don't know. >> if you're seeing the same pattern across seven different companies, that's not just smoke. that's fire. that's a tornado. that's everything. thank you guys so much for your time this evening. coming up in just 60 seconds, a special interview, the president of howard university on hiring nicole hannah jones and later aoc and the democratic strategy to beat mcconnell. plus the new culture war, captain america. i'll explain. i'll be back in 60 seconds. i'll explain i'll be back in 60 seconds
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we are back with a very special guest at the center of the debate about teaching honestly about u.s. history in our schools and colleges. the president of howard university dr. wayne frederick. this week howard made headlines for two huge hires, nicole hannah-jones and ta-nehisi coates. >> curriculum that teaches their kids to hate their country. >> critical theory is in fact very real. it is very influential, and it appears to have become the animating ideology of this administration. and that is cause for great concern. >> joe biden now wants to spend your money on critical race theory lessons for our country's already distressed students. >> the political left in perpetuating this myth that america is a fundamentally
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racist country -- >> fox news has launched these kinds of attacks over 1,300 times so far this year. and at the state level, lawmakers are pushing bills to force teachers to avoid topics like race and slavery ch parents in tennessee are objecting to a book about ruby bridges who integrated a new orleans school when she was six years old. norman rockwell created a painting of her experience. that painting hung in the white house where a grown up ruby bridges met with the president. this is a book parents are objecting to. they also disapprove of injustice and equality lessons. dr. wayne frederick joins me. thank you so much for being here. as faculty of morgan state university, we're tired of you taking everybody. we've got to point this out, the tendency you guys have of snatching the big names.
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first off i just want to know what was the thought process? because most of the rest of the country -- this was bigger than draft day, right? most of the rest of the country was paying attention to nicole hannah-jones, whether or not she was going to be given tenure at unc, what was going to happen there. and when she announced she was going to howard, reminded me of that scene at the end of "any given sunday" where pacino is like i'm going to another place and i'm taking her with me. were you guys always in this mix? >> i've known coates for a few years, so in may after the news broke about the fact that the board at unc had never voted on nicole hannah jones situation. as we began to know one another,
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we formed the opportunity to have both of them come to howard. i've been working on tallahassee for a while and i saw an opportunity. they both seemed interested. and she was to make sure in coming to howard she didn't come at any lesser value as it would. sometimes that's the narrative as well. >> so, one other thing i want to discuss because i think this is also really important. as president of howard university and you were once medical faculty there, there have been massive changes in the forchubb of hbcus over the last six or seven years. applications are up, the quality of students are up. what do you think has been the catalyst for these kinds of changes that we've seen at premiere institutions like yours, like hampton, like morehouse. why are hbcus in this renaissance in the last six or seven years?
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>> a few things. one, i think we've been telling our story a lot better. the reality is we have consistently been supplying america with great talent, talent that has been influencing the country's prosperity. but we have not been taking credit for it. and i think that we've tried to change that narrative. and i think if you look at the current presidents including your president at morgan state and others throughout the country, we've all been very aggressive about it. uncf and thurgood marshal, i think they've been on the forefront of making sure people know what they get when they come. and you have very shrewd consumers in terms of students and parents now who are looking for those outcomes. if you want to go to med school and you're black in this country, howard university sends more african-americans to medical school than anybody else. once you start putting the data out in front of people, we have to perform. our graduation rates are also up. so, while enrollment is up, i
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want to make it clear the outcomes we have on the other side have been up as well. so, we've been really working on that to build it. it's good to see it coming. i must correct you, i'm still part of the faculty. i still operate. i don't want to lose my street cred with my faculty. >> don't want to lose your edge. i want to play audio from joy reid this week talking about the influence. >> howard university has played, of any kind of academic institution in this country, played the largest role in black people achieving order in this country. pred katd on a bedtime story. they justify the antidemocratic power that exists in this country. >> i want to point out to our audience, tomorrow they'll be interviewed by tiffany cross on
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cross connection. make sure to catch that in the morning. dr. frederick, i want to add to this. you know, nicole hannah-jones talks about how hbcus have been at the forefront of greatest thinkers and changes. do you find these outside arguments about critical race theory, are they actually seeping in to a prominent hbcu campus, or are we looking on the outside saying why are these people debating things that we know to be facts at our institution? >> you bring up a great point. one of the things i encourage my students to do is to question. we're trying to give you that truth in the classroom. but we also want students to be independent thinkers, to be critical thinkers. and part of it for them to come and question whether these things are true or not. and for that matter to come with their own theory if they find it not to be true. the thing that is different i think at howard or any hbcu is
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we're willing to confront that truth. we're willing to expose it for what it is and we're willing to change the narrative if we find it not to be true. i think that's what our higher ed institutions should be about and over the years that's what you've seen at hbcus and that's what's led to change. brown versus the board of education and those changes came out of deep strong connection to the debate we were to have in order to make the change that was necessary. >> thank you so much for joining us this evening. congratulations on those fantastic hires. i'm sure all the students are going to be thrilled this fall. ahead fox news is going off on captain america for being too woke. oh, yes, i have a fact check on this one. also a split on the left between the aoc wing and the moderates. how it plays out. later, rapper juvenile is here to discuss "vax that thing up." you're watching "the beat." stay with us. u're watching "the. stay with us
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big month ahead for democrats and it's highlighting the debate between the progressives and the moderates and the tent party. today chuck schumer warning democrats the brace for a jam-packed july trying to push through biden's infrastructure agenda. it's not just spending though, this battle is taking many forms from policing to the green new deal to student debt, forgiveness and more. politically we're seeing it play out across the country in local
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races like in buffalo where a socialist candidate shot the incumbent democratic mayor just last month. >> in buffalo, self-proclaimed democratic socialist india walton defeated incumbent mayor byron brown. >> a democratic socialist candidate running her first political campaign is expected to become the next mayor of buffalo, new york. >> community activist and socialist india walton is currently on track to become the city's first woman mayor. >> a socialist won in buffalo, but in america's biggest city, eric adams, a moderate democrat and former police officer won the primary. the ap calling it, coat, a recent trend of some of the party's most progressive voters. a congressional primary in louisiana and gubernatorial primary in virginia. democrats have slim majorities in congress and big policy choices to make. so, where does the party go
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next? joining me now is dr. christina greer, professor with ford m university. thank you for joining me on a friday night. i'm going to start with this, my professional mentor when i was undergrad said all politics is local. there's a tendency to take everything in the media to make everything and make it some part of a grand philosophical agenda. take us first, how does eric adams, a former police officer in a city wracked with protest last year, how does he end up being likely the second african-american mayor of new york city? >> i totally agree all politics is local and it's been so frustrating to watch people paint broad strokes. if you look at the voting map, roughly percent of the voting public showed up on early voting. but if you look at eric adams' strategy, he let five of his
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challengers fight over manhattan and part of gent identified brooklyn and he took the rest of the city. he was also one of the eight top candidates. only two, eric adams and scott had won elections before. so, everyone else was a political newcomer relatively speaking. if we walk through all the ways eric adams won, there are lots of homeowner who is do not believe in defund the police, who are a little sympathetic to stop and frisk, who are interested in eric adams style of black lives matter and we also have to deal with crime and address those issues. so, the way eric adams articulates a vision to working class new yorkers, new yorkers on the outer bureaus, new yorkers concerned about these rise in spikes in crimes and major and minor violent uprisings in the city and people who aren't sympathetic to protests creates a scenario
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where we had many shades of blue in new york city and eric adams capitalized on the darker shades of blue that are more centrist. >> i want to play audio from cedric richmond talking about this idea of policing and what it does and does not necessarily do to democrats last year and get your thoughts on the other side. >> defunding police is a title that hurts democrats, especially when the fact of the matter is nobody's calling for defunding the police. >> it may sound strange, but many affluent suburbs have already begun pursuing a defunding of the police in that they fund schools, they fund housing and they fund health care more as their number one priorities. >> so, first i want to go back to this and hear from another political scientist. do you actually believe that defund the police hurt democrats? i point to carolyn bourdeaux who won her seat in georgia.
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a seat no democrat had. do you think that slogan hurts democrats or is it just a red herring that some democrats have it approximate out there because they can't understand why they're losing the races. >> both. i think in certain communities people hear that phrase and don't understand the nuance of it. when aoc says there's a reallocation of resources, that's what many democrats are comfortable with. that's what they believe in. but when they hear the phrase defund they get a little skittish because they're afraid all of a sudden crime will spike and it'll come to their neighborhoods, not just the newborns they read. so, it's a nuanced complicated argument when it comes to democrats because we can't fund our way to safety, as we have shown. new york city is one of the largest paramilitary organizations historically and present day. we still haven't figured out how to have zero crime or police who know how to behave themselves on a consistent basis. so, there are ways that we can
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finance police departments across the country, maybe reallocating resources from particular departments and putting them in education, housing services, supportive services, diversion services so people don't end up in jail or prisons. so, that's a nuancesed way of saying defund the police without the slogan that makes people shut down. >> i've got to ask you this, india walton wins, democratic socialist. now the incumbent is going against her in a write-in candidacy. do you think that has a chance of knocking her off? they can be really difficult? >> they can be. only 22,000 people showed up. mayor brown has six months to convince people and try and scare them that she will take away everything from them. it could work with some more moderate democrats who chose not to turn out because he's been mayor for 28 years and they've possibly assumed he would cruise to re-election. we have to wait and see, jason. that's a specific ground game to
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see whether or not walton or brown will be able to mobilize enough people in november. >> remember, everybody, all politics is local. two political scientists just told you that. thank you so much for coming on on a friday night. and still ahead, fox new social security attacking captain america. they're going to get roasted for it. and i have a fact check. also legendary rapper juvenile is here on turning his hit song into a pro vaccine anthem. that's coming up next. but first 14-year-old from louisiana became the first black american to win the scripps national bee. zaila avant-garde won the prize on the word murraya. >> m-u-r-r-a-y-a. >> that is correct! >> avant-garde is a better speller than me. she is multitalented. she holds three guinness world
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first it was mr. potato head. then it was dr. seuss. now the people at fox news are attacking captain america for being too woke and too political in a new series marvel just launched. >> marvel has newly woke captain america. >> marvel. >> what does superman think of the marvel hero abandoning the truth, justice and the american way? >> perhaps captain needs to be demoted to lieutenant. >> this is what happens when you allow left wing activists to write your comic books. >> if captain america can't love america then who can?
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>> okay. first off, dean cain played superman from d.c. why is he attacking captain america. they're devoted entire segments to this. as the actual fan you need to fact check this. first off, captain america is h always been political. first issue in 1951 featured him punching hitler in the face. talking about american dream as something to strive to because it's not there for everyone. steve rogers has always been fighting against bullies, foreign or domestic or on fox. he's pro immigration, aliens and labor. falcon runs up next to him, on your left, not just directions. only people who don't think comic books are political have never read a comic book. x-men about civil rights,
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we're about to be joined by legendary rapper juvenile. he sold over 10 million albums, topped billboard's top 100. mega hit song "back that thing up" won awards. reworked version, vaccine
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anthem. ♪ got to go vaccination, want you vax that thing ♪ ♪ you got to vax that thing, feeling freaky all night ♪ ♪ need to vax that thing ♪ >> juvenile joins "the beat" live. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> first off, i have to say, first i love your music. big fan. appreciate you doing this. to quote you, slow motion for me. how did this happen? who came to you and said i want you to remix this? help us out here? >> oh, my god, my guys from blk reached out, wanted to remix "back that thing up" with me and fresh, wanted to change to vax that thing up, thought it was great idea. told me it was for a date
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warning, before they date, make sure the person they're out to date is vaccinated. great idea. >> and part of what works so well, rhyme and beat and everything else, but actually focuses on what will compel people to get vaccinated. i'm going to ask you -- had the same thing with my family and community sometimes, what kinds of things were you hearing from people apprehensive about getting vaccinated? telling you they were afraid? what concerns do you think the song will help counter? >> been talking about conspiracy from the government, you know. they were saying they don't know if this vaccination f they took right amount of time to make this vaccination. it was too quick. you know. i've heard all kind of stories, man. not saying anybody is -- you know, they wrong for having
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these feelings or being skeptical and scared because you know, everybody didn't have a great reaction from this cure, but i think it's good to be vaccinated and i think it's great to be vaccinated. especially if you got a family, got loved ones that's around you that plan on not getting vaccinated. >> and i think what you mentioned there is key. because it needs to be a collective thing, right? if you get vaccinated, your mama too. bring whole family to get vaccinated. >> right. >> that's how we keep entire community safe. when you're putting this together, ask as a technical question, how long did it take to remix? pen and pad, done in hour? how long did it take? >> shorter than that, didn't take too long because we had the blueprint with "back that thing up," just changed a few words.
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but great experience being in the studios with my guys and having female present, it was a great look, especially for our everything else taking over everything. it's good look. trying to encourage people who look like me to go out and change the numbers. black folks have been taking a hit, getting short end of the stick. >> it's only 35% of black folk in louisiana vaccinated. it's only 9% of black americans overall vaccinated. so yeah, this is an absolute emergency. first off, again, thank you so much, juvenile for joining us. also want to mention, you launched a luxury furniture business, for real check this out. repurposed stuff, incredible. brilliant artwork.
4:00 pm >> thank you man. >> on behalf of myself, "the beat" and juvenile, have a good weekend. "the reid out" is here now. >> i'm a fan. want to know who scott is, everybody want to smash with him to get a shot. i don't know who he is, but popular man, whoever he is. >> yes. >> he's important to the culture. >> i don't know who scott is either. >> can you ask for me, juvenile? just want to know. see a picture. >> want to smash scott, get vaccinated. >> got to get vaxxed up. >> thank you for doing what you do. come on now. >> appreciate the love. thank you. >> all right


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