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wait a minute, i thought it was, oh, okay. >> i'm a very focused person. >> you are. it will be joined by eric holder tonight because it was get out of afghanistan day at the white house but also voting rights day at the white house today. he is involved in a project with president obama on voter fairness in this country which has been a battle going on for so long, that he would think at some point it would be settled. that meeting in the white house today was very similar to the kind of meeting the reverent dr. martin luther king junior used to have in the white house with the president. here we are, still added. >> i spoke with wade henderson who's at that meeting today and i was interested to hear he's a very measured person, and he speaks, he's one of those people who is completely in control at all times and speaks very measured terms, but i was interested to hear him say he
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was encouraged coming out of that meeting. there is not a lot of externally visible reason to be encouraged about voting rights right now. hearing white henderson say that the meeting was encouraging to him and that he sees the hope for progress including on legislation was not what i expected to hear from him. seems like a great prospect. >> we will have to people who were in the room and we will find out how encouraged they were. >> excellent. thanks, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. ks, >> two of the people who arn the room in that meeting today with a vice president and president are joining us tonight. the white house meeting about voting rights went on for much longer than the hour that it was scheduled for. that's always a good sign about white house meetings, if they go on extra long. it was the kind of meeting, as i was mentioning to rachel, that the reverend dr. martin luther king junior used to have with the president of the united states 60 years ago. 60 years ago. i will ask our first guest
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tonight former 20 general eric holder whether civil rights leaders will be having urgent voting rights meetings with the president of the united states 60 years from now. before today's white house meeting vice president kamala harris returned to her alma mater for the first speech she has given there as vice president of the united states. she said this. >> this is about all voters. it's about all voters. this is not about democrats or republicans. this is about americans. let's be clear about that. and who is prepared right now to stand up for what we say are some of our fundamental values? some of the fundamental pillars to a democracy, to our democracy? this is the fight of our lifetime. this is the fight of our lifetime. >> after the white house meeting, mark morial, the president for the national urban league said this.
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>> democracy is under vigorous, vicious, and sinister attack. beginning with the events of june, january 6th at the capitol and cascading like a tsunami. for legislators across the nation. >> they knew voter restriction legislation that mark morial is talking about and in republican state legislators as the newest version of the fight for equity and fairness in voting. the white house meeting today actually did not discuss the oldest method of denying voters very representation in american government. gerrymandering. gerrymandering began soon after our first president george washington left office and the partisanship he warned against began to infect our politics. gerrymandering got its name in
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1812 when the governor of massachusetts, elbridge gary, succeeded in maintaining control of the massachusetts senate for his party by drawing a state seventh district, that according to the boston gazette in this drawing looked like, quote, a new species of monster. the boston gazette called the new species of monster the gary manner. a lighting the governor's last name with salamander because the guys that said the district linking salisbury with chelsea by and over with shaped like a salamander. the only thing that's changed about gerrymandering in the last 210 years is the pronunciation, the original gary meandering has yielded to cheery mentoring. after got its name, it has become the minority parties
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most effective technique or maintaining power in congress. here's texas republican congressman ronny jackson describing the republican strategy for next year's congressional elections. >> we have everything working in our favor right. now we have redistricting coming up and the republicans control most of that process and states around the country. that alone should get us the majority back. >> former attorney general eric holder is the chair of the national democratic redistricting committee, which has launched a new program called redistricting university by its elite organization, all on the line and partnership with president barack obama. in an email to millions of americans after the announcement every district in university, president obama writes, in a few short weeks the final data necessary for redistricting will be released by the census bureau. this will be the moment when the redistricting process is fully underway across the country, and we need to be
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prepared, i believe that activism will prevail over cynicism. we must be ready to get involved in the redistricting process in our states if we can achieve fair maps, the balance of what is possible will fundamentally change. >> leaning off our discussion tonight is eric holder, former u.s. attorney general. the obama administration. he is now the chair of the national democratic redistricting committee. thank you very much for joining us tonight, general holder. really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to get to this redistricting university and what is possible. because we just heard congressman jackson talk about how it's a lock for republicans on redistricting in the states where they control. >> he's as good a political prognosticator as he was a doctor i think at the white house. he's got some fundamentally incorrect facts there. it's not in the bag for republicans. there's still a fight to be had,
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since we started the national democratic redistricting committee in 2017. we have broken trifecta control of the governorship as well as the two houses in the state legislator in nine states. we've put in place independent commissions. we have governors and states who will be able to veto gerrymandered redistricting that republican legislators undoubtedly are going to do. the fight is still on. that's why redistricting is so important because we want to get the people of this country involved in this fight. promote transparency, the involvement of the people in this country and to make sure the special interest don't control the process in a way frankly they did in 2011 one republicans focused on this and democrats did not get sufficient attention. >> what are you asking people in terms of their participation? do you want them going to any legislative hearings that might be occurring, or hearings in state legislators around the country about reach just
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redistricting? >> we want them to participate in the process where there are hearings being conducted in state legislators. go to those. where there is going to be field hearings, attend those. figure out ways in which you can get in touch with the touch with your state legislator, senator, representative to make sure that they are doing the right things. there are four one hour sessions we are putting on. if you want to figure it how you could get involved, go to mobilize dot u.s. at all on the line. and you can find out how you can be involved. for one hour sessions that will make you a real warrior in the fight for a disputed process. that's all we've been fighting for. we want to make the process fair. let's not have policy determine in this country by who has the ability to draw the lines that favor one party or the other. let's draw fair lines and make sure that we have fair elections. >> the process has been made fair and a political in some
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states. one of them is california. the biggest state controlled by democrats. were democrats could conceivably re-destruct when they want to republicans out of congressional offices. democrats don't even have the power to do that in that state, even though they control the government because it has been surrendered to a non partisan commission to do it. that's the ideal, but you can see in the situation where it believes democrats in effect politically unarmed in ways that republicans remain armed. >> i wouldn't agree with that, lawrence. we did the same thing in virginia. to control the governorship in both houses of the legislator and decided to put in place a non partisan commission there. here's the deal, if the process is fair, if the process is fair, democrats will do just fine. democrats, i think, will in fact prevail. we won't have to do what
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republicans do which is an instance to cheat. look at what happened in wisconsin last go around. democrats got 54% of the route boot for the late -- one third of the states. if you got a fair process, a fair process, democrats will do just fine. in fighting for our democracy, we are fighting for the interests of our party. >> one of the approaches that seems to no longer work in our politics, is bringing public shame to an issue. republicans do not experience a shame in any way. that's the thing donald trump talk to them. there's nothing to be ashamed about. it doesn't matter with the voters find out about donald trump and stormy daniels or what donald trump is doing calling secretaries of state and asking them to change vote counts in georgia. there is nothing tibia shamed about. one of the things i know you want to bring to this when you bring light to it is republican
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officeholders and states around the country would then be somehow shamed into doing something, i guess less bad than what they were going to do. they don't have that capacity anymore, do? they tibia shamed about what they are doing? >> they're not going to be ashamed. if we expose but they do, we could galvanize the people of this country to throw them in a box. by exposing what they do, by making people aware of how they're trying to pervert our democracy, how they are attacking our democracy. that will mobilize the people of this country to participate in elections. not only at the federal level, but at the state level as well. there are more people who are in favor of a fair system, more people in favor of having a robust democracy than supporting the minority views of the republican party. it's going to take people to make this happen. that's what redistricting is all about. it's about exposing what republicans are going to try to do to the redistricting process.
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>> there used to be legal challenges mounted to redistricting. what do you see that's left by way of possible courtroom remedies to really horrible versions of gerrymandering? >> we've got a couple of ways in which we can challenge gerrymandering. if there are racial gerrymanders, we can still bring cases in the federal courts and we have done so and have been successful there. if there are partisan gerrymandering as you can see the state constitutions and bring keys in the state courts. we did that successfully in pennsylvania as well as the north carolina. we still have litigation options that are open to us in spite of what the ideological and partisan supreme court has ruled over the course of the past few years. >> we heard the vice president say that this is the most important issue of our time, voter fairness in terms of specific voting rights and
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voting rights laws as well as the gerrymandering process. what would you say to senator joe manchin and any other democrat who is reluctant to change a senate rule in order to pass federal voting rights legislation without which the republicans are going to be able to continue to do what they want to do? >> i'd say all those who don't think it's time for action, to remember the last century. fascism and authoritarian regimes rose not because they were strong, but because democracy was weak and democracies were not adequately protected. this is the time for us to protect our democracy. one of the realities is that democrats, right now, right now, we have the power to pass the for the people act. we have the power to pass the john lewis voting advancement bill. we have 51 senators. we are 50 senators plus senator harris plus vice president or
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harris. we could pass these bills, at the end of the session of congress, are we going to say that for whatever reasons, protecting some arcane senate procedure trying to get bipartisan efforts that are going to happen, that we aren't going to use the power to protect our democracy given the history we know of, and given the ways in which we know minority republicans are going to use the power we will see to them to subvert our democracy? this is a time to stand up for democracy. it's a time to take action. >> we are getting reports that are kind of slipping out of the justice department, various sources that the trump justice department that there's different activities, the acting attorney general or attorney general barr were involved in a different times. do you believe there should be a general overview?
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a specific review of everything that the trump justice department was up to that we are not writing about an occasional leaks here and there? >> i think what attorney general garland has done is correct, he's the inspector general to look at a wide range of things to make sure that which was done didn't contravene justice department policies regulations, and also determine whether any laws were violated. i think we are in an extraordinary time, in the transition from the trump justice department to the biden justice department and typically don't want to look back and get second use at policy changes. what they did at the justice department was fundamentally different, fundamentally incorrect and may have been lawbreaking. i think that generalized view of what happened in the barr justice department i think is warranted, and i think that merrick garland has done is a good first step.
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some degree of an aggressive look back is appropriate. there will be people who will say it's political, it's inappropriate, he's politicizing the justice department, we simply can't let history think that what they did to the justice department is acceptable. that broad look back i think is correct. >> former attorney general eric holder, thank you very much for starting off our discussion tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you. coming, up will be joined by two civil rights leaders who were in the room today with president biden and vice president harris to discuss voting rights and how to get federal legislation through the united states senate. that's next. that's next.
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roosevelt room today with a president and vice president discussing voting rights. here's what mark morial president of the national urban league told reporters after that meeting. >> when we look at what's
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happening in this nation, we see an effort to impose a system of american apartheid. you suppress the vote, you elevate the filibuster, you've used the electoral college, used the notification of the supreme court which just recently undercut the voting rights act. to try and thwart the power of this grand and glorious multicultural nation. >> civil rights attorney dam and he would said this after the white house meeting. >> we cannot forget our past. there is been progress but we are here to say if you think all progressives linear, there is time to wake up. if you think it's all political and does not discrimination,
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it's time to wake up. if you think it's just a little bit of discrimination, it doesn't matter. it's time to wake up. if you think the damage is done, and it won't get worse, that nothing can be done about it, it's time to wake up. >> joining our discussion now, dr. cold president and national chair of the national council of negro women also with us the main he would president and executive director of the lawyers committee for civil rights under law. doctor cole, the meeting went longer than four scheduled which is a good sign, for white house meetings that usually mean something important has happened. but what is your important takeaway from this meeting today? did you get a sense the biden harris administration has a real plan to get federal legislation? >> the meeting today indeed did last. it was scheduled for one hour, it lasted an hour and 30
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perhaps 40 minutes. let me first say it's a privilege to meet with the president and the vice president of our country. but i also must say that the president and the vice president convened this meeting. it is they who wanted to hear from eight civil rights leaders. i would not describe our discussion as being overwhelmingly optimistic. it was profoundly realistic as the president and the vice president agreed with us that our democracy is at stake. >> damon you are in the meeting today with the president of the united states, very similar to the kind of meeting the reverend doctor martin is looking junior had with the
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president of the united states 60 years ago. well civil rights leaders 60 years from now being in the white house having meetings about voting rights? >> we should be, lawrence. i think doctor cole said it well. it's not only a privilege to be in the room. but it's where we should be, right? we like to think progress is linear, but it's not as linear as we would ever like. there will always be major improvements or at the very least refinements to be made. i don't think this issue is going away like the issue of racism in this country isn't going away even when we see progress, they're still work to do. that's why our organization, almost 60 years old, it was founded at a meeting convened by president kennedy almost 60 years ago in the east room of
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the white house. that's why we are still here. we expect to be here 60 years from now as well, fighting similar fights but hopefully not the exact same ones. look, as long as the clock keeps being turned back, or as someone tries to turn it back. we'll have to keep fighting and make the promise of democracy real. >> doctor coal, mark morial, we heard him link suppressing the vote to the preservation of the senate filibuster. was there a discussion about how the current senate rule is preventing voting rights legislation, and what to do about that? >> certainly the civil rights leaders we raised this question. it is a difficult position we are in. i also sensed in that room was the single most important feeling.
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not silly kind of optimism. everything would be all right. but real isn't, grounded in the belief that if we cannot in 2021 protect the rights of all americans to vote, that our democracy again is in serious jeopardy. >> damon he would, you are in a meeting with the president and vice president, both lawyers, both completely conversant on these issues legally, what it means in terms of litigation options against voter suppression and so forth. what did that mean for you in terms of the kinds of discussion you could have because of their detailed understanding of the issue? >> what it means frankly is we
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have leaders at the highest levels we can go beyond politics and talk about policy, and the impacts on real people and how it plays out. it's the kind of thing their posture led them to ask us not how we just feel or think but for our tangible ideas that they want to incorporate as much as they can into their strategies. as an organization that little kates working inside organizations that organized for movement. together we have a whole lot of rich ideas to bring to the table. >> doctor cole, what did it mean to you and what do you think it means to the discussion inside the biden white house that the vice president sitting with you in the roosevelt room today is a black woman? >> it means everything. it means everything. if i can be quite specific we can speak with her, and she can
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speak with us out of shared experience. i'm not saying everyone has to be a black american to understand the struggle we have. but if you are both of color and a woman then our discussion begins on a very fundamental and strong level. one of the very moving experiences that i had today, and my brother damon may say the same thing, it was watching the synergy between the president and the vice president of my country. it filled me with a great sense of pride.
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>> thank you very much for joining us, doctor johnnetta betsch cole. >> thank, you lawrence. >> coming up, republicans in the texas senate filed their voter restriction bills today, and texas democrats stood in front of their capital and asked senator manchin and senator sinema for the legislative help they need from washington. that is next. that is next axed summer themed music playing] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ summer is a state of mind, you can visit anytime. savor your summer with lincoln.
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[applause] >> that was texas state representative trey martinez fischer, this morning at the state capital in ox than texas and joining us now. democratic texas state representatives, trey martinez fischer and jessica gonzález representative martinez fisher, the focus on joe manchin and senator cinema seems to be more vivid every day as you fight this battle in texas. what would you ask of them if you could speak to them tonight? >> thank you lawrence, we're in the fourth quarter this is a now or never moment for voting rights in america. we need every men and women to stand up for america with a senate deadlock at 50 50, the ballots of our democracy lies in the hands of senators manchin and senator cinema. this is time to take a step forward for our country, our democracy depends on you.
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we need you to be here for our democracy. let's end the filibuster, let's pass voting rights, let's get back to the people on doing their government and doing the government for america. >> representative gonzales, you've had a big win in what you've managed to knock out of this legislation, that plan they had about making it easy to overturn elections, that's been thrown out of this legislation that they are advancing. the sunday morning voting, they're not trying to prevent that now, it will continue to go on the way that it has in the past. you have some winds on a couple of items that weren't in the earlier versions of this bill. one of the most important elements of what you are fighting now, what arthur? >> the bill was all ready [inaudible] that was one of the most restrictive states to be able
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to vote in, the bell on its own even initially before the provisions got added was already adding more restrictions, it was criminalizing behavior that doesn't happen here in texas. the former secretary of state said in the first state committee that our elections are very safe, they're secure. there is not a problem to fix. ultimately the current version that recently got filed, it bans drive-through voting's, this will have harassed people going into vote, even on the fact that the supervision's got taken out, this bill is still not good for texans. >> representative martinez fisher, what happens next procedurally and will it be and open process when we can all see exactly what is in the bill and how it got into the bill? >> we hope so, this is a special session and there's
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nothing special about it this is the suppression session to deal with voter suppression and other red meat issues, republicans have proven in the regular session that they want to write this bill in the night. they wanted to use lawyers that were not government employees to insert this offensive language. i hope they learn their language. they're trying to walk this back they're blaming each other for this nefarious language. at the end of the day, texas does a very good job at criminalizing voting, and what we need to do is to make sure that we shine a bright light on it. we need to speak to the country. we also need to make sure that we are taking this to let our leaders know that if they can silence our voices in texas, they will do it across america. >> representative gonzales, do you feel as if senator manchin, senator cinema actually don't understand how bad this kind of
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legislation is? i know there have been some texas legislatures who have come to washington to explain that to them? >> i think what our trip to washington -- we saw some progress. we saw that what is happening here in texas, and we saw it today in the white house, biden met with civil rights leaders. i think that yes, this issue is coming more to light and people are paying more attention, especially after what happened over the last session in texas. here we're go again for round two. but yes, i think that they are starting to realize more and more the urgency here and texas, it is a life or death situation. >> representative martinez fisher, do you have a news tragedy for this session that you didn't have last time? >> well, we have the backing of the american people, this has
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now become a national issue, all eyes, the eyes of the nation are on texas right now, and so we will continue to fight with all our might. we are holding the line, we will use every available tool in our tool box, and we will stand up for voting rights, but make no mistake, even if we were to solve those problems in texas, this does not save the rest of the country and that is why we need a national reform. that's why we need a national standard. congress is listening, the president is listening, the house is lessening -- a deadlock senate, it's a now or never moment. america needs to wake up. we need to have a national for the people act for everybody to save our democracy in this country. >> texas state representatives jessica gonzález and trey martinez fischer, think you both very much for joining us tonight, we really appreciate it. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. coming up. for once, business and labor agree about something, something big. something huge.
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weeks away from the public stage of the most complex and delicate legislative drama that washington has seen since the passage of the affordable care act. the first legislative action on president biden's infrastructure plan could begin the week after next, when senate committees begin publicly working on the legislative details of the infrastructure bills. the staffs of those committees are already working in closed door meetings on that legislation with input from the biden administration including our next guest the secretary of labor, marty walsh. secretary walsh and the biden administration today revealed an unusual alliance in support
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of the senate bipartisan infrastructure deal, which is one of the two infrastructure bills president biden hopes to sign into law. labor and business are usually on the opposite sides in legislative battles. for example, the business lobbying group, the chamber of congress opposes of 15 dollar minimum wage increase and the biggest labor organization supports a 15 dollar minimum wage increase, but they both find themselves on the same side in support of the bipartisan infrastructure bill, the afl-cio and the u.s. chamber of congress along with the powerful business roundtable, and several other labor and business organizations, issued a joint statement today saying quote, infrastructure modernization is a critical component of long term economic growth and improve quality of life for every american. organizations commended bipartisan group of 22 senators
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and the biden administration on finding common ground and reaching agreement on a historic 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure framework. we urge congress to turn this framework into legislation that will be signed into law, and our organizations are committed to helping see this cross the finish line. enacting significant infrastructure legislation including investments in our roads, bridges ports airports, water and energy infrastructure, access to broadband, and more, it's critical to our nation and will create middle class family sustaining jobs. don't let partisan differences get in the way of action, pass significant, meaningful infrastructure legislation now. joining us now is the secretary of labor, marty walsh, thank you so much for joining us tonight mister secretary, really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me tonight, lawrence. >> your part of the team,
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especially at the labor department, a big part of the teams are put together this business, labor alliance, it's not an easy thing to do, i'm sure they have some disagreements along the way to getting to the agreement, how important is it that you now have business and labor united on this support of the bipartisan bill? >> i think it sends a strong message to the senate and the congress about the importance of this bill, that labor and business, understanding the importance of infrastructure. we have to give the credit to the president, president biden, has said from the very beginning that he's gonna work on a bipartisan solution. he's put in his own political capital on the line, if you will, he didn't give up, he continues to meet with people, and his ability to be able to pull people together has been amazing to watch. it's great to be part of this. as you said, a minute ago, it's important that we finish the job.
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it's important that we continue having conversations and moving forward. this infrastructure bill, what it would mean to the american business community, what it would mean to american workers in the future of our country, it is really amazing that we're at this point. this moment in time to really make some tremendous investments. >> so we're talking about possibly the week after the next, some activity in the senate budget committee where the budget resolution version would be written which would be the democrats only bill, at the same time, the committees of jurisdictions for the bipartisan agreement will be going forward, possibly public with legislative language on the bipartisan bill. do we know which one of those bills is going to move first? >> no, we're not sure. i've been on the phone over the last two weeks now, talking to senators and talking to members of congress. i know that other cabinet secretaries, secretary
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buttigieg's, secretary fudge, secretary grand hall, have all been working these bills, and other secretaries as well. i think as long as we have a dual track process here, moving forward on both the infrastructure bill, and also the build back better investment bill, as far as kara condiment, we're gonna continue to push on both of those. >> let's just listen to what president biden said about this yesterday. >> experts on wall street, analysts, have said that we will create millions of good paying jobs for years and decades to come, not just in the near time. i'm gonna be making the case until the job is done, until we meet the needs of families of the economy of tomorrow. >> there is nothing more important to secretary of labor than jobs, that is your focus. but this presidents focus on this legislation, every time we heard him talk about it during
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the presidential campaign he always had jobs in their, and that seems to be what is sustaining this popularity in polling so far. >> he's talked about good paying jobs and creating opportunities for people to get into the middle class, when he launched the build back better idea he was talking about coming back stronger as a country making sure that people had opportunities, to have pathways into the middle class, this investment in the infrastructure, this investment in child care law and universal kindergarten, his so important to continue moving our country forward. you think about, we're at a moment in time right now, this is an investment for the workforce, the future. we're able to look and see how do we make sure that we continue to move america forward, continue to remain on top of all the different categories as far as manufacturing, and high tech, biotech, and infrastructure work, that's all important. i've spent a lot of time over the last couple of weeks
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traveling around the country, into iowa, pennsylvania a couple of times, california, nevada, indiana, talking about all of these programs that the president has. everybody is excited. everybody keeps asking me questions about workforce development, are we gonna be able to train the workers of the future, are gonna be able to make it investments to create opportunities and pathways, that's what the president has been talking about since he was a candidate, and his actions right now are coming true on what he said he was going to do as president of the united states of america. he also mentioned a bipartisan solution to all of this, he says he represents all americans, it doesn't matter their democrats or republicans, the president is taking a stand. >> you are a union member yourself, former president of the union, clearly president biden wanted someone as labor secretary who labor could trust. that trust is going to be tested in the legislative process as the compromises are made, there will be compromises as your moving down the road at
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the afl-cio that they don't like. will you be able to hold on to labor support as the bill gets compromised as it moves down the legislative line? >> labor understands the art of negotiation and sometimes you don't get everything, it's still a process of moving forward. certainly the statement today that the nfl put out, people are excited i know that every one was excited. there are certain things that they will be able to give on, and some things that they won't be able to give an. one thing that labor wants as well as the business communities making sure that there are good paying jobs that are created here. >> and as mayor of boston, you always have to be balancing business community interest and labor interest and several other interest at the same time. is this -- does this feel like a much bigger version of this? does this feel like some similar rhythm's that you're used in city hall? >> it's very similar in a lot of ways.
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it is about conversations, it's about making sure that you're listening to all sides, making sure you're listening to everyone's opinions. everyone has an opinion on how to make the bill better, and how to pass the bill. it's very similar as being mayor of the city, quite honestly, at this particular moment. it was very different in the beginning, but as we get down towards truncheon time, it's all the same. it's about relationships, it's about having open dialogue. >> boston's former mayor, now america secretary of labor, marty walsh, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you, lawrence, appreciate it. >> thank you. tonight's last word is next. ght's last word is next. you oughta customize your car insurance with liberty mutual, so you only pay for what you need. oh um, doug can we talk about something other than work, it's the weekend. yeah, yeah. [ squawk ] hot dog or... chicken? [ squawk ]
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