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booty to the polls last year for 2020, we can appreciate vax that thing up. two very special guests and a lot more tomorrow on "the beat." that does it for me. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. >> this is what i have to say to juvenile and vax that thing up. come on, yes. yes. sir, sir. >> get it from his mama. >> sir, sir. vax that thing up. yes! >> i love you, joy. >> bye. >> i'm looking forward to it. i cannot wait. >> i can't either. clearly. bye. >> bye. >> hey, good evening. we have a serious show tonight. we begin "the reidout" tonight with the democrats turning their focus on protecting your right to vote. and to have that vote actually count. with vice president kamala harris at her alma mater, howard university, announcing a $25
million investment by the democratic national committee to support and protect voting access ahead of the midterm elections. >> these laws create obstacle upon obstacle. these laws make it harder for you to vote. because they don't want you to vote. we will not let anyone take away our power. and that's why we are all here together today. >> meanwhile, in arizona, another democrat fighting to protect voters, arizona secretary of state katie hobbs who has asked her state's republican vaccine averse attorney general to open up a criminal investigation into whether trump and his allies broke the law in their efforts to pressure maricopa county officials after the election. hobbs has made it clear that fighting her state's sham fraudit isn't just about affirming the last election but preventing republicans from stealing the next one, which is exactly what they're now opening
trying to do. while exporting more partisan sham reviews to other states like pennsylvania where a state senator who participated in the pro-trump events in d.c. before the insurrection is now demanding, get this, that binders full of ballots be delivered to him. it shouldn't surprise you that pennsylvania fraudit guise considered for running for governor. we see you, republicans, rolling out the full insurexz tool kit to any state where you have legislative control in order to instill social chaos and crush our democracy using, quote, election integrity as a shield to try to suppress the vote. while sucking up to trump. and because claiming widespread fraud in last fall's election isn't bearing any proof because it didn't happen, you're scrambling to implement plan b, which is pushing through voter restriction laws with a vengeance. which we saw last night in texas again. when republicans proposed to ban drive-through and early voting in their latest draft of
election legislation. with their signature voting bill blocked, democrats are clamoring to get the biden white house to do more, and to say more about passing voting legislation on the hill. president biden, vice president harris met with civil rights leaders and a private session to discuss just that. and some of though leaders have this to say about their summer of activism. >> we see an effort to impose a system of american apartheid. >> we say enough is enough. we talk about what's going to happen with the black vote. we know when we talk about the black vote, we're talking about black women. >> joining me now is the reverend al sharpton, president of the national action network and host of "politics nation" right here on msnbc. melanie campbell, president of the national coalition on black civic participation, and kurt bardella, adviser to the democratic congressional campaign committee. reverend, i'm going to start with you. i saw a little of the press
conference after you met with the president, but give us a review for those who didn't see it. what came out of that meeting, what were the demands and the action plan that came out? >> well, the president met with eight of us of the national civil rights organizations, and it was scheduled for an hour. we met an hour and 40 minutes. basically, to tell him that after the supreme court decision of last week, that we are returning back to a state's rights kind of election system. where in effect it would be arizona's decision in supreme court gate, they're saying states had the right to decide on what election process they were going to use as long as people could vote even if it caused people a little inconvenience, they could vote anyhow. and we intended to fight to make sure senate bill 1 and the john lewis bill passed and we were going to do it by building a movement from the ground.
we wanted him to use his bully pulpit in the white house to really deal with the gravity of the hour, and he and the vice president listened intently. he said i'm going to do all i can from the white house. he did not say he could deliver legislation, because he clearly is having problems getting over 50 votes, but he was very intense in his listening. the vice president said she is willing to go on the road and campaign for this. i told them that in 1964, after the civil rights act, martin luther king said they needed a voting rights act. lyndon johnson said we can't do it, and dr. king left the white house and went south and built that movement and we were leaving there today to build that movement around this country. we're going to have a big march august 28th, martin luther king iii and i and melanie, she's going to talk about building it
up this week. we're not going to let them take the right to vote from us, not in our time. not in this generation. >> and you know, melanie, as rev talks about the august 28th, this anniversary march, we'll recall that the march on washington was not a watch with kennedy, it was a march on kennedy to push him to say you're going to pass this bill. the kennedy administration didn't even want it. what do you take as the white house attitude toward the activism that's now taking place? i'm talking to a lot of activists who are frustrated frankly with the white house that they're talking a good game, but they aren't doing anything, and they aren't using the power they have, not just the white house, but democrats in the united states senate are simply refusing to use the power they have to defend their core voters. meaning black voters. >> thank you, joy. good to be here with reverend sharpton. one of the things that was really clear for us, we share what we know we're hearing on the ground all across the
country that folks are frustrated and they want to see a good fight. and i think they heard us on that, and whatever way they can fight from the white house, they need to do that. and it didn't just start. activism, we have been pushing this, now, the reverend talked about last week, it just took it to a whole other level. for black women who are the secret sauce to democrats winning anything in this country, we're coming together. with all of our civil rights colleagues and allies and others for a whole week of action next week. we're going on capitol hill next week. when they come back, those ten republicans who voted to not even allow for there to be even a discussion sent us a message, and it was really clear. what are you going to do about it? so what we're going to do about it is do what our ancestors have taught us and what we do every day, not just us, but many others. we're going to take it to the streets and keep pushing in congress and make sure that we get the voting rights because we won't get anything else, joy, we could pass things now, and if we
lose the ability to not just vote but to make sure that that vote gets counted, one of the things that happened in georgia, our local affiliate is helen butler, who state affiliate with the georgia coalition with the people's agenda, who was taken off the local board of elections so that some folks can choose who they want to be able to decide how votes get counted. so we can organize all day long the way we always have, but then if the rules change about who gets to decide if that vote gets counted, we'll never be able to have the ability to have one man, one woman, one vote, and vote for the candidates of our choice. >> kurt, the history rhymes. when the 1960s movement was taking place, democrats also controlled the house, the senate, and the white house. right? it was full democratic control. the difference was, what you have now are republicans who are essentially being very open and telegraphing the fact they're attempting to seize power by
stealing outright elections. they're not hiding that, not like hiding the ball. they're being open, we're going to steal these elections. we're going to make sure black and brown and young people can't vote. we're going to make it so hard, and only our people can vote and if a democrat wins. we'll just change the results and make our person win. it is apartheid, so i wonder if you fell like the activists that you're on with today, that i'm talking to and i'm sure you're talking to, the energy is all there. do you think democrats in capitol hill understand what they're dealing with? do you think they understand that's what republicans are trying to do? >> i think that they understand that, but i just don't know that the urgency matches that understanding. i think one of the most important things to remember here and jason just played this clip about ten minutes ago leading up to your show. we have on tape recorded messages from the former president and his lawyer and his team trying to convince people
actively in real time to not certify results, to find new votes to offset the election, to get the outcome that they want, as rudy giuliani was recorded saying. this isn't being done in a secret room somewhere. this isn't in a clandestine operation. this is very public. there was an attempted coup in america on election night, perpetrated by the person in the most highest power position in the world. and ever since then, it's hard to believe, even though joe biden won, even though democrats control the house and senate, voting in america has gotten harder since that night. and if democrats need to understand that the way republicans are going, if they have their way, if they're allowed to do this unchecked, we will never have a fair election in this country ever again. and republicans will make it so that the outcome will always be that they win. they are trying to impose a minority radical extreme view on the majority of this country.
and of all the priorities we have, and they're all important, climate change, gun reform, dealing with covid, getting the economy back together, nothing supersedes our democratic rights. nothing will matter. >> nothing will matter. once they get control, and rev, you and i were in south africa before. this stuff feels very familiar. it does feel like they're trying to sort of create a south african style system where only they are allowed to vote. everyone else is so restricted that they can't. just a couple of headlines. in pennsylvania, this guy doug, a republican running for governor, the state whyy reported he spent more than $3300 in campaign money to charter buses from pennsylvania to d.c. on the day of the insurrection. this is a guy who has left the capitol, says he left the capitol for the riot, but videos show he was actually there, physically there. he now wants something like 900,000 ballots delivered to his person, to him, so he can conduct his own audit because the real official audits weren't enough. to keep going, arizona, the
arizona republic revealed that kelli ward, the republican party chair woman, attempted to pressure supervisors to stop counting votes. stop counting votes. rev, we're in a situation where republicans are that open, where they're saying we're going to recount until w o right now? because at the state level, everybody gets it. it seems to be washington that doesn't get it. >> and that is why you need to march on washington, action on washington. what they have been able to do, and i said this to the president and vice president in the meeting, is the right has built a movement. it started as the tea party. it went into the birtherism movement. now it's trump. we have to put that kind of movement under democrats so that they understand that their very political lives depend on them sustaining and protecting our
right to vote. we put people there that will do that. this is not about them. this is about us. and that's why i said it must be intergenerational. even as the vice president called for young activists, the war is not in the movement. the war must be the movement to those on the front line, either you protect us or we put other people in the front lines, but this is nonnegotiable. we're not giving up our right to vote. >> they're going to find out, they're going to mess around and find out if they won't fight for their base, they base will replace them. the only difference between now and the 1960s is everybody in congress were old white guys who even if they were far right or far left or in the middle, they could sit down and have a beer together because they were socially on the same side. this is now a fight to the finish. it's democracy or autocracy. it's america or 1980s south africa. that's how serious it is, democrats. wake up. do the clapping.
these activists are righting for it. kurt bardella, rev sharpton, melanie campbell, thank you. >> next, the circus arrives in austin, texas, as greg abbott begins his special session of wedge issues. in what we're calling #the suppressionsession. >> plus, puppet kevin gets ready to make his choices known for the january 6th select committee. will he take this seriously or use it as another opportunity to troll america and suck up to trump? >> and a little light reading from the absolute worst book club. tonight's selection. maga cult elegy, a memoir of a man who surrendered his soul at the alter of trump. "the reidout" continues after this. my great-great-grandmother, my great-grandfather, great-great-grandfather was that kind of person. he looked after his community. she built an empire. he protected this nation. they lived their lives in extraordinary ways.
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restricting the rights of texans' voting rights in particular. greg abbott laid out 11 issues he wants to prioritize. among them, so-called election integrity, aka voter suppression. border security. addressing alleged social media censorship, and you guessed it, critical race theory. also, bail reform, restrictions on abortion drugs, and banning transgender athletes from competing in high school sports because that's a top priority for texas. notably not included in the right-wing red meat dinner plate, doing anything whatsoever about the power grid, the one that failed millions of texans during a freak winter storm, and then texans were asked to conserve electricity during a heat wave last month, butnic about that. at a news conference with activists from black voters matter, the chair of the caucus spelled out what's really on greg abbott's agenda. >> we have a problem keeping the lights on in the state, we learned this year. that's what greg abbott ought to
be focused on, not on his next primary election, not on pandering to donald trump and his extremist base. >> ah, yes, the primary. that said, texas republican wasted zero time rolling out suppression bills. both would add new requirements for mail-in voting and ban drive-through voting and early voting. and they would empower partisan poll watchers to intimidate voters. the bills are similar to the one republicans tried to pass during the regular legislative session in may, which was killed by texas
democratic lawmakers with a late-night walkout. joining me now, texas state representative senfronia thompson, and natasha brown. and dean, the dean, democrat, caucus dean thomas, i want to talk first, the occam's razor answer to why this is happening
is a guy named allen west, who i know well. i covered him in florida. he is kookoo for cocoa puffs. he wanted to march with bayonets because barack obama was elected president. he's now potentially running for governor against your governor, is that why they're rolling out this full blue plate spec of insane bills? >> i wondered why they really wrote this out at all because the bill failed last month. and usually when we have a bill that fails, we move forward to the next session of the legislature. so we don't know why we're really here.
other than the fact that the governor is running for re-election and he's trying to reach the white house by way of becoming the president. >> yeah, well, he's trying to roll out all, latasha, of all issues, the red meat issues that get fox news conservatives
excited. critical race theiry, but what they're doing is trying to zero out all the way black voters vote. you had something that people need to read. y'all want us to do more work, register more people and turn out more voters. the last time we did that, we got attacked and now have fewer voiting rights. explain the logic of why do we bear the burden of doing more for less. you have to be exhausted. you seem to be expressing some frustration activists are having to do it all when the party that supposedly careds the most about black people is in powerabsolut. it seems all the political systems. even the political parties we support, are always leaning towards white comfort. at the end of the day, black folks came out in record historic numbers. black and brown folks in texas now make the majority, could make the majority of the electorate, and they're being attacked. what we're seeing is it's not
just limited to texas or even to georgia. we're seeing all around this nation. so here is that voters came out, did what they were supposed to do, they voted, and they're being attacked. then the question is, who is going to protect the voter? who is going to make sure that they put everything on the field just as we did? why are the democrats continuing, and president biden, continues to support the filibuster. it is clear that the republicans have no intention of being able to come up to any agreement to support voter right but in fact do the opposite. there's a growing frustration in our community. there should be a growing frustration in america. this is really about democracy. this isn't a partisan issue, but what we do expect is we expect the party to put everything on the field, just as we did in the election. >> it shouldn't be a partisan issue, but you know, as the republican party has become a white invest party, they're very open about that. we only want to make sure that white, rural, and our voters, people who vote for us, can
vote. dean, i would love to call your dean thompson. representative thompson, let me just read through what's in this bill that they want to put through. a new voter id requirement for vote by mail. banning drive-through voting, and this poll watching thing. i want to focus on the last thing. what is it they think these poll watchers should be allowed to do? >> well, the thing that they want to do is i have had experience in this area. they normally put poll watchers in minority areas, and they are normally people of different nationalities than the areas they place them, and they're there to intimidate the workers, not the workers, but there to intimidate the voters. when persons, people walk into a poll, and they see these strange persons in their polling place looking at them mean spirited, it's frightening. and sometimes they may just get up and walk out. >> are they allowed to be armed?
can those poll watchers be armed? >> well, that's a good question. particularly since we have just passed a permitless gun bill. we know that the person themselves who presides over the poll can in fact have a gun. whether the poll watchers will be permit today have one is another question. i would predict they probably could. and then the most difficult thing is they're going to be difficult supervisors if they step out of line. you have to find them acting up maybe two or three times before you ask them to leave or ask the police to come and ask them to be escorted out. and a lot of harm can be done in that period of time. >> indeed. latasha, what do you want to see done differently? civil rights activists met, i don't know if you were able to hear rev and melanie talk about
the demands they took in. they told the white house folks are frustrated. do you understand why they seem to so calmly be walking into this? they too will not be able -- i don't know inthey get they cannot win re-election if they're banned from winning re-election. even if they get the numbers, they'll say no, we erase this off the books. do you think they get it? what do you want to see them do differently? >> not only do i think it's getting arth black voters. i think there's a larger question here. will we have a real democracy? will democracy be real in this nation when we're talking about voting rights. are we going to protect the rights of citizens to vote for whomever they please. i would like to see, one, an immediate end to the filibuster. we knout what it's holding up, legislation. we know that has been a tool that has been used traditionally to stop civil rights legislation. two, i would like to see the administration do everything in its power to pass for the people act. we need federal legislation that is going to create a baseline so whether you live in alabama or
iowa or texas, you have equal access to the ballot to vote. and we want to see the john lewis voting advancement act, and that is not enough. that's a great start, but what is nonnegotiable is our voter rights. we will be relentless and resilient and we're going to keep our foot on the pedal. it's important for us to have voting rights in this country. we showed up, and we should not be punished because we participated in voting and using our civil rights. >> and you cannot buy people off with infrastructure and a bridge if they can't vote. and they have no rights. anyway, my head is going to explode. texas representative thompson and latosha brown, thank you both for being here. >> still ahead, house minority leader kevin mccarthy is expected to announce his picks for the january 6th select committee soon. i'm sure they will be serious, sober minded lawmakers intend on getting all the facts, right? right? come on. no. >> plus, there's new reporting on what donald trump said about his supporters the night before
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it's been more than six months since the insurrection at the capitol and the select committee to investigate that attack is still taking shape. with eight of the 13 slots on the committee now filled by speaker pelosi, we're still awaiting the announcement from house minority leader kevin mccarthy who is expected to propose five republicans for the remaining positions. nbc new reports kevin has spoken to multiple colleagues about possibly serving. however, the question is whether he will try to sabotage the investigation by picking republicans who are more loyal to trump's big lie than to american democracy. some members of the republican
conference like extremist andy biggs and paul gosar could be witnesses if not suspects in the investigation. that said, pelosi will have final say over the appointees but has declined to say if there are any selections that would be rejected outright. it will focus on the role donald trump paid, and bennie thompson has not ruled out a subpoena for the ex-president. last month, propublica reported the white house knew what kind of extremists would be descending on the capital that day. and trump himself raised questions about what his supporters might do. on the day before, trump asked if the following day would be peaceful. don't forget, trump told them, these people are fired up. i'm joined by the chairman of the select committee on january 6th, chairman bennie thompson. i want to start with that question about what in your view would be unacceptable in terms of people that kevin mccarthy
might pick? is it just extremists like lauren boebert and marjorie taylor greene, or is it some criteria in your own mind about what would be unacceptable? >> well, thank you very much, joy, for having me. it's clear that this committee has to work. we're not interested in people who are distracters in doing the work. we can differ, but there's a process. committees operate by rules and regulations. as chair, i will make sure that we do that. i would hope that leader mccarthy gives members on this committee the respect they are due by putting people on there who want to find out what really happened on january 6th. rather than put people who are denying that anything occurred. all of the information you can see in the public sector, it was quite a show.
and it almost cost the lives of a lot more people, members of congress, staff who work in the building, so what we have to do is take the charge that this committee has been tasked to do and look at the facts and circumstances on january 6th and call it like we see it. we'll go where the facts lead us. nothing is sacred. the committee at this point has no shrinking violets on it. we want to get it done. we'll hire the best investigators, and we'll do whatever we need to do to get to the facts. >> are you concerned that, you know, i can see somebody like a jim jordan getting picked because he's already a committee chair, and then him leading his side of this committee to try to raise things like black lives matter or to use distractions by trying to say antifa did it or raising some of the donald trump conspiracy theories on the committee? are you worried about that happening?
>> well, i'm not worried about it happening. if those individuals raise the issues, we have a process by which we go through. none of the information that we have gleaned thus far indicate that black lives matter or antifa was involved in the activities of january 6th. if those individuals have information, they need to present it. but otherwise, we'll proceed where the investigation leads us. >> let me ask you this, too. because byron york of the conservative washington examiner has laid out what i think will be th the republican argument against the committee. it will be about one, getting trump, two, getting mccarthy, and three, getting any other republican who might be gettable. how do you respond to byron york? >> i suggest he read the resolution establishing the select committee. the scope of the committee is quite clear as to what our
responsibilities are. we will have a budget. we'll be able to hire a staff. and we will follow the information. as you know, significant resources have already been expended by committees of jurisdiction in trying to get us to where we are today. what we want to do now is take that information, that judiciary, government reform and oversight, house administration, and put it in the venue of this select committee, coupled with the investigation we will do and we'll draft a product. so people will get out and say those things, but that's not the charge of this committee. the charge is the scope and circumstances of january 6th. >> yeah. we have already seen the ex-president attempting to make a martyr of ashli babbitt, the woman who was an air force veteran who tried to climb through the speaker's lobby door through the window and was shot
by capitol police officer. are you concerned that members of the republican side of this commission will try to make public the identity of the officer who protected a lot of people's lives by having to take that shot that i'm sure he didn't want to take, but he protected people's lives. are you worried that republicans who are out to out this person's identity will use this commission to divulge their identity and put this gentleman in danger? >> i will not as chair allow this committee to be used as a political pawn. we will do what's in the best interest of this country. if i have to as chair protect any and all individuals, we'll do that. there are some people who have already expressed concern about their own safety if they come and testify before this committee. if we have to set up a process by which they testify behind a shield, we'll do that.
>> yeah. >> i hope the integrity of this commission will be above reproach. as chair, i'll make sure those individuals who want to try to do otherwise, as chairman, i'll make sure they don't succeed. >> congressman bennie thompson who is chairing this january 6th commission, thank you very much, sir. really appreciate your time. >> still ahead, our climate in crisis. rampant wildfires, rapidly rising sea levels, severe droughts. scientists say it's all because of the climate crisis, commonly know as climate change, but conservatives have managed to convince themselves and many others it's not a big deal. how do they pull that off? that's next. stay with us. i order my groceries online now. shingles doesn't care. i keep my social distance. shingles doesn't care. i stay within my family bubble. shingles doesn't care. because if you've had chicken pox, you're already carrying the virus that causes shingles. in fact, about 1 in 3 people will develop shingles,
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currently experiencing drought conditions. last week, a town in canada set the country's record, 121 degrees. and then was promptly engulfed by a wildfire that destroyed 90% of their village. 90%. portland, oregon, hit three consegative records at the end of june which killed 116 people. a new study concludes this extreme heat will be virtually impossible without, quote, human caused climate change. the study is not yet peer reviewed, but the a.p. calls their methods credible. if none of this screams apocalypse to you, sea creatures are cooking in their own shells, but much of the world goes on as if everything is fine. fossil fuels making oil spills like this one last week in the gulf of mexico more likely, but there's a good reason people haven't been focused on this enough, and it has everything to do with politics and big money. there are very, very rich, very self-interested people in industries paying big money to
make sure that you don't pay attention. in a memo for republicans in 2001, consulant frank luntz instructed them to scrub their vocabulary of global warning because it had catastrophic connotations and rely on climate change, which suggested a more controllable and less emotional challenge. and it clearly worked. and oil companies like exxon mobile have been lobbying against climate action since the beginning and it's still happening today. a senior lobbyist for exxon told an undercover reporter that the company had been working to weaken key aspects of president biden's flagship initiative, the climate crisis, and that he's speaking to senator joe manchin's office every week. manchin's spokesperson claimed the lobbyist exaggerated their relationship. okay. i'm joined by ro khanna of california, chair of the house oversight environment subcommittee, and charlie pierce, writer at large for esquire. congressman, i want to start
with you. take a listen. >> did we aggressively fight against some of the science? yes. did we hide our science? absolutely not. did we -- did we join some of these shadow groups to work against some of the early efforts? yes. that's true. but there's nothing illegal about that. >> i'm required to read their statement. exxon lobbyist said i'm deeply embarrassed by my comments and i allowed myself to fall for greenpeace's deception. it exxon's ceo said we condemn the statements and are deeply apologetic for it. okay. should these men be called to testify in congress about these statements, congressman? >> joy, they should be called.
they will be called. they're going to show up to our committee in september. it is appalling that every other industry has shown up to congress. tech ceos, defense contractors, the pharmaceutical industry, the wall street industry. who do these fossil fuel executives think they are that they don't have to show up in congress? that's going to change. we are prepare today use whatever tool is necessary. they will be showing up and answers the questions of congress. >> isn't the fact that who they think they are are the people who own the united states and own the government and they feel like they're in complete ownership of not just republicans but some democrats in oily states. >> oily states. coalish, i guess would be the word, states. any state dependent on the extraction industry. this is a playbook we have seen before. this is exactly what the tobacco companies did. they knew all along nicotine was addictive. they just wouldn't tell anybody. exxon, their document, there's
documented everyday they knew exactly what carbon was doing to the atmosphere long before everybody except i guess jim hansen did, and you know, they kept it to themselves. so this is -- this is why americans -- this is the way american corporations, which by and large lost, you know, in a pretense of a social conscious around the 1980s, it's the way they operate. >> they want money, money, money. you said the vaccinations are quick, easy, and free, yet there's a movement to resist the idea. if we can't convince them to do this, how are we going to convince them to make the sacrifices the climate crisis will force upon us? while i'm reading, i'm going to ask you a question, congressman. we talk about this a lot in our team when we talk about doing these stories on climate. wlefrb you do climate or covid, it reads to a lot of the public as you're telling me what to do. so anything that reads as you're telling me what to do, people resdwrekt and don't want to hear
it. my question is how do we take action in a governmental sense when americans won't even save their own lives by taking a free vaccine? >> joy, i think most americans want to take action on the climate. many want to be stewards of the land. they don't want to live next to pollution. the problem has been that big fossil fuel industries have spent millions of dollars spreading climate disinformation, saying that we don't have a climate crisis. it's just climate change. that it's not human caused, saying that we can just tweak things and everything will be fine. so the american people are up against millions of dollars of self-interested advertising that's not disclosed. and i think a congressional hearing will change the game, just like when big tobacco came before congress and had to explain what they're doing, big fossil fuel industry executives will have to explain what they're doing to the american public, and the american public will not put up with it. >> charlie, you're a word guy. the reality is democrats have to stop playing on republicans'
turf. stop saying climate change. that's frank luntz's words. why are we saying climate change? it's a crisis. it's a cliesz. stop talking like that. >> i deliberately stopped using climate change on the blog that i write when i heard about the frank luntz connection. i have been callingwrite. i've be calling it a climate crisis. i went to a place in alaska which is a barrier island above the arctic circle and it's going away. i mean, because the sea ice doesn't form anymore and because this basically what that place is is a place where typhoons go to die. they go up the east coast of asia and what they used to is they used to beat themselves to death on the sea ice, and there's no sea ice anymore. it's eating away the permafrost and this place is gradually dispairing. people ought to know. >> yeah. absolutely. very last question. i got to get you to comment on
fox news getting into the weather business. to me, that's just another opportunity -- >> oh -- >> -- noerm to lie and create disinformation that gets people killed and kills the planet. your thoughts. >> is that for me? >> that's for you, charlie. >> i'm sorry. yeah. i think this is just what we need right now is they're going to find some tucker carlson ophthalmology to tell us everything's ok. meanwhile, meanwhile, you know, chicago is having problems with lake michigan now. >> and congressman, the last then to you, then. if you're up against a wall of disinformation that includes rupert murdock putting his fingers in the game to add to his already monstrosity of disinformation, i wonder just as a legislator, what do you do? you're up against all this money and power. >> you are and you ask for
disclosure. here's the hypocrisy. no one is questioning the rights. if they wane to say we are for pollution, we are for disinformation and we are lying to the american public, he has a right to do that. they're acting as if they're for green energy. >> right. >> they have had an election where they're sustainable. people who believe in sustainability on their board of directors. i think change is coming. this is a home we're going to hold them accountable. >> and even if they killed the planet, they just want their cash. i'd sad and it's wicked. before we go to break. we have an update on the crisis in haiti. six people were arrested in connection with the president. several media outfits siting media reported that one of them was an american citizen. the state department couldn't confirm that yet. seven other individuals were killed in a gunshot with police.
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the modern day republican party is the living embodiment of the race to the bottom. there's the embrace of insurrection, republican members of congress disrespecting and defunding the miss, and of course, white nationalism. the party's not complete until you add a heaping hunk of spinelessness. or what about texas senator ted
"cancun" cruz. he wasn't even texan much to make him apologize. you can't stoop any lower than cruz but alas there's one guy who found a way to stoop down lower to the ground. his name is james david advance. you probably heard-otherwise become which was made into a poor book. he joined six other ohioans kissing the ring of the serial sexual harasser. the millionaire venture capitalist and yale graduate who's being funded by a tech billionaire has been selling his brand of principle pal conservativetism. when he was building up his name i.d. advance told anyone at that time who would listen how bad trump was. in february of 2016 he wrote's trumps policy range from immoral
to absurd. he wrote mr. trump is unfit for our nation's highest office. then he wrote trump is cultural heroin. he makes some people feel better for a bit but they can't realize it. this one is -- this is pretty good. he wrote that trump offers a slogan about greatness with little subsfans to support it. flash forward to this weekend, candidate j.d. advance is apologize egg for her negative comments and deleting them from twitter. he lined up a bunch of interwüst. he told time magazine that he's the leader of the movement and if he actually cares about these people and the things i say i care about, i need to suck it up and support it. this level of subservience is epically gross but that doesn't seem to bother advance at all. he said when it comes to
suck-ups, trump gets a certain kick out of people kissing butt. he thinks that people who kisses butt all the time are pretty weak. j.d.! they're talking about you! you! as the kids would say, you played yourself. and for your molly coddling flip-flopper, you are tonight's worst in a suck-up. theis tonight's reidout. tonight on all -- >> you've got to ask what is the problem. get over this. get over this political statement. just get over it and try to save the looifgs of yourself and your family. >> a new plea from medical experts with americans needlessly dying and the anti-vax media attacks. >> the focus of this administration on vaccination is mind boggling. >> then our democrats are about to walk out again to stop a new voter restrictions push