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indiscrimination. yes, i appreciate your colleague standing before us saying we have to take action now. now we have to fight even harder. there is a reason why and i get so angry when i speak to people that i know friends and family members in so many cases say your vote does not matter. why did they fight it so hard to take it away? >> right, cari, i have to ask you to come back much earlier in the hour. i agree with you. the supreme court's decision because it puts the wings on the back of these republicans, you raised a great point. why are they trying so hard to take it away. i hope you can clear your
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schedule. we'll talk about the success of all the efforts to get out the vote. we'll talk about naomi osaka. i am so sorry live events intervened. "the beat" with our friend jason johnson is joining us now. sorry i took a few minutes. >> no, i am listening. i am jason johnson. pfizer announced making a third booster dose vaccine to combat the delta variant. a doctor will join us answering yours and my questions. rudy giuliani making it worse in an interview with steve bannon. questions swirls of ivanka flipping. we start with the fight for voting rights. what nicole was covering at the end of her show.
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democrats pushing to do more with republicans ramming through voter suppression laws across the country. since january, 48 states introduced 389 bills. 28 of those are signed into law in 17 states. president biden meeting leaders at the white house today making it clear this is a top priority. members of that meeting speaking afterwards. >> democracy is under vigorous, visual, and sinister attack. beginning with the events of january 6th, at the capitol and cascading like a tsunami through state legislatures across the nation. >> vice president harris announcing a $25 million,
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$25 million dnc initiative to protect voting rights ahead of the midterms. >> it is about all voters. it is not about democrats or americans, it is about americans. let's be clear about that. who's prepared right now to stand up for what we say are some of our fundamental values and our fundamental pillars to a democracy, to our democracy. >> this blitz from the white house coming as the republican of texas -- democrats denying for the bill's passage. pennsylvania, republican state senaors want to review software and wireless laws. nothing but white guys looking. a democratic lawmaker was
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arrested for just trying to see that bill signing. vice president harris vows to fight all of this. >> these laws create obstacles upon obstacles. these laws make it harder for you to vote because they don't want you to vote. >> let's be clear what's going on here. these laws are being pushed through on the basis of trump's big election lie. the law is being passed of stopping the black people from voting. that's the core of the republican party. joining us now, thank you both so much. i don't like this dance and vague nuance sometime. these laws are being passed to stop black people from voting. that's the number one intention. i want to start with julani,
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what's our worse case scenario if none of these laws is overturned or none of these laws are stopped? >> by anti, i mean anticivil rights movement. when you look at this combination of the legislatures and the supreme court, it is like that tide of suppression law that swept through the south after reconstruction. this was a two-prong attack with state legislatures that were disenfranchise black voters despite what the 15th and later 19th amendments said in terms of people having access to the ballots. the other thing that's important here is that when we talk about
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the period of disenfranchisement and we see those police dogs and the civil rights movement, we sum those things up like racism. we don't take it a step further and say these southern states will particularly invest it and preventing black people from voting because that's where black people were the largest portion of the electorate. >> exactly. >> trying to remove people from the electorate in a way that's reminiscence now. there is a whole tide of people, an emerging majority that's interested in disenfranchise in the same reason of jim crow were interested in disenfranchising people. >> aaron, i have been saying all along that this needs to be the number one priority of the
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democratic party of joe biden. my fear is president biden and harris going to mess around and find out next out if they don't take this seriously enough, we won't have a democracy to fight for. if you allow people to wipe out one way or another. from the administration, you have talked to many people in this administration, how dire is this? is this is an alarm bell situation to them or do they see this part of an overall series of policies they want to push through? how serious is this of the people you spoke in the administration. >> president biden and vice president harris both understand, it was the black voters who turned out in record numbers who got them the roles they currently occupied. vice president harris certainly talked about it today
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alma mater. we know what these bills are about. black voters had to use to be creative in the face of 21st century of voter suppression. if they don't get the message, civil rights leaders or activists continue to suppress on this. the reality that if now is the time to be a single issue voter, the single issue they need to care about is voting rights. the black voters that elected them want to see come to pass are going to happen. that's on the march even as we speak, you mentioned georgia law
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and so many others that are passed in the state legislatures. a lot of those laws took in effect of july 1st. some of these laws are already in the books as vice president harris pointed out. i think seeing them increasingly using the bully puppet today, this is something organizers and activists want to see. they want to see both vice president and president biden going further on this. >> the measures that were put in place last year during the pandemic led to record turnout across the board for republicans and democrats. there was more turnout last year than the united states had in decades. you had to understand what the republican party is trying to do right now is they don't want people to vote. clearly last year worked for them as much as it worked for anybody else. >> i want to play some audio for you from one of the members talking about how important this is and what they're facing.
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i will get your thoughts on the other side. >> my message to them is we need your help and we need it now. we need hr-1. we need the john lewis' voting rights act to be able to block suppress laws like the texas legislatures want to pass and other states around the country. >> i am seeing this hologram projection. help me mayor garland, you are my only hope. what should the justice department be doing now? we see these laws all over the place. the democrats haves done a good job of saying hey, help now, we are in the come pack, we need some help here. what should mayor garland should be doing? the first lawsuit in georgia, should they go to texas next or is this a larger legislation? >> this is all hands on deck. >> when you look at harris
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county, i am a proud native new york which is statistically the most diverse county in the united states. harris county is right there and around houston. so there are these emerging majorities in texas and texas is really a textbook example of what's going on here because the legislatures had been republicans. if they go the second year, they just gerrymander and gerrymander the next time, such that they can forestall whatever happens. texas has been the real model of what republicans are trying to do nationally. that needs to be a priority for the administration, too, particularly for the doj. >> i want to point this out. that is great point and we'll show this in another segment. if you look at some of the
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congressional district in texas, dan crenshaw's district is absolutely ridiculous. it is written in a way to try to suppress and choke out and limit the voices of republican voters. i want to play a sound and get your thoughts on the other side. >> i think it is certainly up to the president to push and pass hr-1 and john lewis' act making it as a high priority as anything else on the agenda. >> so, we are hearing it from the state legislature and the caucus that's coming from the state. we see joe biden talking about these types of issues. we see the money going out. my question for you is even what vice president harris talked about, $25 million, where does that money go?
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where does that money go that actually ends up in making a difference? you can give me $5 or $25 million. if i only got one polling place in my neighborhood of 400,000 people. i don't know the $25 million is going to necessarily change anything. >> another thing, yes, the $25 million is going to go to things like voter education, voter registration and turnout and also some monitoring of polls to make sure there is no shenanigans at these precincts in upcoming elections. let's be clear, $25 million, yes, that's a lot of money. i would not be sad to have it in my bank account tomorrow, p.s. $25 million is a drop in the bucket when you think of the tsunami. and so yes, marc have said with
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your previous point, if texas passed these laws, they plan to sue. congressman alred and others realize that the time is now, we are in a narrow window here, people like him and colleagues in congress is going to be shifting from campaigning again so they can get reelectreelecte. having laws in the books for the people's act and john lewis' would be beneficial. you would hope electorate could be expanded. >> $25 million spread over 17 states, that does not break down
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to another, that's like one tweet from stacey abrams. they need to be putting a lot more money. thank you so much for starting off the show today. coming, breaking news from pfizer, developing a third booster shot that targets a dangerous delta variant. new legal pressure of the trump's ally pushing the big lie. a control probe into trump and his allies. stay with us. trump and his allies stay with us ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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pfizer's second boost is designed to fight the delta variant. a third vaccine dose would be needed within 12 months of vaccination. the delta variant is the dominant strain in u.s. joining me now is dr. patel, she also works on health policy at the obama white house, dr. patel, thank you so much. i have a lot of questions. if somebody sends me a letter in the mail and says hey, you may want to bring your card back in. it sounds like a factory recall to me. the fact that pfizer came out with this announcement, come get a third dose, is that a sign of
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concern, if i had been vaccinated by pfizer, does it mean it is weaker than moderna or johnson & johnson. >> it is just a way to prevent any concerns about future variants as well as the delta variant escaping our immunity. the current vaccine, all three of them holdup against the delta variant for hospitalizations and deaths. the concern has been overtime that immunity will decrease. we need to see the details, i need to see the data, pfizer reported that they can boost the antibody response with the thinker dose. they're doing this because there is a whole process after they put this application into the fda. this is not something to worry about like a recall of your current vaccine, it is a reminder though that covid has
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not end it with that two-shot series. >> let's say i have johnson & johnson or moderna, would it be safe or dangerous for me to say you know what, why don't i go back down to the health center and get a third dose, is that safe? would it be dangerous for people to do? >> yes, it would be dangerous. again, you can't get that thinker shot. this is just pfizer, the company announcing they're going to apply the fda and the process will start. it may be appropriate in some situations, very limited ones. there are trials for organ transplant patients. i have had these patients who do need a third shot because they'll help give them a response. for the majority of people, if you got and walked in and got a third shot, it called cause more side effect and that could cause more harm so the side effect gets amplified. if you felt bad in the second shot, you could have stronger
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effect than the third one. and everything we are talking about is what i am concerned. the public is getting confusing messages when half of our country is not vaccinated. >> i want to ask about these increasing variants, the delta variant, are these variants potentially coming out like hurricanes. are they named or are we going to get an epsilon or gamma, do we think this is a limited outgrowth? >> we will, we are already watching additional variants upon variants of interests. they're not variants of concerns like the delta one is. why is that? when the virus replicates, it
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has a chance to mutate, mutations are normal. it is the series of key mutations into other things that can make it more infectious. that's when it becomes a variant concern like delta. indonesia, 70,000 cases a day. and that's a breathing ground for more mutations and more of these strains. we have four state that is are hot boxes that have not done a good job. they happen to be red states, i want you to lean into this. regardless of what is being done in other places and regardless of what your neighbors in texas or oklahoma or colorado are doing, if these places continue to have these low numbers, they'll fall the next variant and keep the rest of the nation sick, i don't think covid needs a passport or a ticket going from place to place. >> we learned this a hard way.
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it is not going to be limited to just those areas with low vaccination rate. it makes everybody in any part of the country vulnerable. almost of 100% of the deaths we had over the last week is unvaccinated individuals. i don't want anyone to die and this is what's happening and you are right, this is how it spreads, not just across the united states but across the world. >> tokyo announced there will be no spectators after 920 new cases popping up in tokyo. >> dr. patel, thank you so much for keeping us informed. >> coming up in 60 seconds. rudy giuliani is fac facing tro for raising the big lie. we are back in 60 seconds. we are back in 60 seconds. and one we discover.
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lawyers promoting the litigation to overturn the elections are under fire. they must appear in court. even though rudy giuliani is not apart of that hearing. he has other sanctions coming his way. he's facing discipline proceedings that could strip him of his law license. he's suspended from practicing law in d.c. and new york until that pans out. he's still talking, repeating the lies that got him suspended in the first place in an interview with steven bannon. >> there are 20 or 25 witnesses testified of ballots counted. that's against the law.
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he's not the only one still talking. trump appears with bill wylie last night, reminding us fraud for the election. >> i want to take a deposition with you. >> i love talking about the election fraud. >> joining me now is joyce van, i am going to start with this. on a scale of one through a thousand on the likelihood that i would one day won the championship or the chances of being a millionaire tomorrow , what are the chances that donald trump will sit in a lawsuit against social media companies? >> if one is the lowest then i am going with one, jason. >> and the reason is because and this is my thought as a non-lawyer. one, donald trump does not want
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to go through with this lawsuit to begin with. it would lead to discovery or all sorts of investigations and e-mails of intimidation attempts between him and members during the campaign. what could he be doing by claiming he wants to sit for a deposition, how is it helping him or any of his lawyers? >> this looks like a fun raising stunt from the moment he filed the lawsuit. he and the republican party sent out fund raising e-mails. it would be surprising to see it goes as far as discovery because of the fallacy of this legal claim that social media platforms are government entities. it boggles the mind to see this sort of lawsuit filed. it does not have a legitimate
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purpose. so that leaves us with fund raising. >> i want to play you some audio, this is trump at a recent rally praising for the people who tried to overthrow this government. i want to ask you questions on the other side. >> people are being treated unbelievably, unfairly, when you look at people in prison and nothing happens antifa, the person that shot asheli babbitt right through the head, boom, there was no reason for that. >> you have black lives matter activists being arrested and thrown in jail and brought up on charges being apart of or activating riots or engaging in behaviors that's disruptive to the public, why is the former president of the united states not being sued or not being brought up on charges for basically advocating for an
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inspiring a riot that led to an attempt of overthrowing the government but also people are dying. >> first thing we have to say jason, this is despicable conduct by the formal president. her death is tragic. her death occurred after he set those incidents on january 6th in motion. this is how many of these groups that are white supremacists and targeted our government on january 6th. this is how they go back into their communities and create new followers. it is absolutely horrific conduct and ultimately the question here is whether what the former president did protected by the first amendment. it is possible that he may be immunizing from criminal liability in that way and
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whether it is possible to amount to successful civil challenge may ultimately turn on something sort of interesting and something that we saw raised in the context of the defamation suit against trump, that was whether or not he was acting in his official capacity as president of the united states, the morning of january 6th and when he sets these events in motion. if so, the government will take the position that it will come in and substitute itself for him in any litigation and prevent him from being civilly sued. >> so we have weisselberg who's given information and questions of whether or not ivanka will flip one way or another. i ask these questions because i think it is important. this is work that's being done here. my question is, as we are seeing elections and changes in
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leadership of the state of new york, does that have any changes. there is concerns, for example of some of the people who are heading the investigation now may not be able to see it through until the end. is that going to change the likelihood of trump or any of the organizations being accountable or is this something can be trusted or handed off two or three years down the road even if this case continues? >> prosecutors are professionals and engaged in succession planning and knowing that c cy vance would believing at the end of the year. the prosecutors who charged day in and day out are folks that stuck around. they are the folks who are primarily responsible. i have confidence that this case will follow the facts and laws and go to its logical conclusion
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republicans are getting brazen about new phase. senator roy is caught on tape talking to a right-wing group. >> our job is to do everything we can to slow all that down to get to summer 2022. >> create chaos and stop things from getting things done. he admits it is all political. the part of the strategy to win the midterm. right in line with the number three republican wants to make biden a half term president. there is no such thing as half term president. mcconnell is 100% focused on stopping biden before trying to
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walk it back. you may see biden taunting mcconnell. >> mitch mcconnell loves our program. you see what mitch mcconnell says? look it up. man. he's bragging about kentucky. >> it is a great thing for kentucky. it is getting $4 billion to help, that's amazing. >> the total am that'll come into our state 4 billion. >> check out mitch mcconnell and you will even see it on tv. >> not a single member of my party voted for it. >> politically this could backfire republicans, $4 billion to help people sounds pretty good to me. the question is what can democrats get done on housing education guns and more. joining me now is eugene
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daniels, msnbc's contributor. >> this monologue and the dark knight, oh, we should introduce a little chaos because chaos is fair. here is the thing. chaos by the republicans is not fair in this instance, right? there could be millions of people across this country who lose their healthcare access and unemployment benefits and don't have access to hospitals if they decide they don't want to do anything for the next 18 months. you are at the white house and at the capitol, are there any republicans in the blue states that are worried this tactic will harm their chances next year? >> absolutely, they're saying it behind the scenes. they're not going to say it on the record. they worried about it. one thing that we do know, if you keep pushing president biden and obstructing, he may call that f-word, filibuster reform. those kinds of things that he
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does not want to do. republicans are making a bet that the moderate biden of yester year would not shake things up in the senate. i don't know if that's exactly where we are. civil rights leaders met with the president for under two hours talking about the voting rights act and talking about police reform. they're going to be pushing him hard to make things happen here. i think republicans are begging on biden not doing anything as they obstruct or maing it dangerous. >> i want to talk about specifically what that terminology and how that plays out both in the halls of congress and with voters. >> mitch mcconnell comes under a lot of criticism, he wanted to make sure barack obama was as one-term president. i want to make joe biden a
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one-half term president. i want to make sure they no longer have house, senate white house. >> now, eugene, i have been ringing the alarm bell ever since this insurrection became the mainstream idea of the republican party. if the republicans somehow threw stacking the courts and packing voter suppression laws. if they took over the house and senate next year, they would impeach joe biden. they would vote to impeach biden just on principles. how does that play for democrats. does that put the fear into their feet and a lot of fire into them or do they think talking about infrastructure and voting rights is going to be enough to stave off what the republicans are intended to do next fall. >> that's one of the differences with democrats and republicans. democrats they tend to focus on
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policies and they're wonky and nerdy at times. what we are hearing about republicans are pure power. it is not about the legislative lever that you have. it is not about negotiating and compromising. it is about power. what you can do when you have it. that's the difference between the two parties now. there are democrats who talking about this as well. the house, joe manchin, the other big joe in washington, d.c., he's still is operating it seems under kind of old senate rules where obstruction was not the first play that republicans were doing when people can negotiate in good faith and compromise a little bit. that's not how the senate has been working for the last six months and for years, right? those are different rules and so it is going to take a lot it seems for him and other moderate democrats to make moves and make changes to kind of protect the majorities that they have in
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congress and protect president biden. those are the kinds of things they are talking about and something that's really important and i see it a lot because it bears repeating. joe manchin is serving as a proxy for other democrats. he serves as a proxy because a lot of them don't want to say things that don't want filibuster reform or doing compromise above all else. when push comes to shove, they won't say anything. >> eugene, i will give you credit to be the first person casting senator manchin as coward democrat who are hiding behind. ahead, a new call for a criminal investigation into trump and his allies over election interference, i will talk to the officials leading the charge.
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arizona's top election officials calling for a criminal investigation into interference of donald trump and his allies. katie hobbs citing bomb shell report revealing a campaign intervened on trump's behalf. one state's gop official texting the adviser, "we need you to stop the counting". donald trump also attempted to reach that election supervisor leading to this voice mail from the white house. >> hello sir, this is the white house operator, i was calling to let you know the president is available to take your call if you are free. if you could please give us a call back sir, that would be great. have a great evening. >> rudy giuliani reached tout
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multiple election supervisors. >> rudy giuliani, president trump's attorney is calling. i would like to see if there is a way we can resolve this that comes out well for everybody. we all have the same goal. let's see if we can get it done outside of the court. >> we are all republicans, let's see if we can get it done. that's not how democracy is supposed to work. >> joining me now is the official calling for the new investigation, katie hobbs, arizona's secretary of state and candidate for governor. thank you so much secretary hobbs, what inspired you to call for this investigation? it would have to be taken care of by the state's general, what
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person is a republican, correct? >> yes, he's a republican that took the same oath i did in the state of arizona. what we have seen here appears to be clear leviulating laws and clearly calling for interference into the election and warrants furtherinvestigation. regardless of anyone's party that's involved in this. >> i want to play you some sound that we have of the arizona republican party chair also talking about what's going on here in the state and get your thoughts on the other side. >> it's kelli ward. i just talked to president trump, and he would like me to talk to you, and also see if he needs to give you a call to discuss what's happening on the ground in maricopa. >> secretary hobbs, i have had bill collectors in my youth less aggressive than what we have been seeing from the trump administration here. when you see that the head of
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the state republican party is also putting on this full-court press, do you think an investigation might lead to criminal charges, maybe not just at the federal level, but at the local level for election interference? >> well, i certainly don't want to jump the gun, but i think it's clear to everyone watching that this absolutely warrants further investigation and whatever that lead to, i think that most laypeople can look at this and say, this doesn't look right. it doesn't smell right. it seems to be interference and trying to influence the outcome. and it is against the law in arizona, and it certainly violates some federal laws too. >> look, i could get cited for standing too close to a voting center in a joe biden or kamala harris t-shirt, so i can't imagine that this, too, isn't at least worth a citation. i want to step back and talk about some of the numbers in arizona in general. i think a lot of people were very excited to see that arizona helped push joe biden over, but
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arizona is not a blue state. it is won by the thinnest of margins and some recent polling i have seen shows that many republicans there, and many voters in arizona, they would vote for joe biden again if he was running against trump, but if he was running against another republican, he would be in a tight race. talk about some of the voter suppression laws that have been passed by republicans in the state that they're hoping will play into being able to send that state back to the republican column in 2024. >> well, i think what we have seen since the election by folks who are not happy about the outcome is an orchestrated effort to continue to undermine the integrity of elections, continue to sow doubt in confidence and to make it harder for those voters to vote. and simply because they don't like the outcome of the election. and so, you know, this is really unfortunate. it's why i have continued to stand up for the process that we oversaw in 2020, which was free
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and fair, and the results we certified are accurate, and why i'm going to continue to fight to insure access for every eligible arizona voter. and that's what i was elected to do. i'm going to continue to do my job. >> many people in washington, d.c. and concerned election officials around the country, republican and democrat, think the only way that you can combat the kind of laws we're seeing in arizona and texas and georgia would be to reform the filibuster and pass the for the people act. have you had conversations with senator sinema, as secretary of state, telling her or imploring her to reconsider some of her positions given how difficult it's making your job and the potential impact it could have on her as well? >> our office has spoken with her staff about the provisions of the for the people act that are important for arizona and to uphold arizonians' access to the ballot, and i have made my position very publicly clear on
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this issue, and i will continue to do so. and i have called on every senator, republican or democrat, to do the right thing and get this through, to insure that americans all over the place have equal access to the ballot and continued access to the ballot in light of these pushbacks we're seeing across the country. >> secretary of state katie hobbs, thank you so much for your work and thank you for coming on "the beat" tonight. >> ahead, nikole hannah-jones' major move. critical race theory debate and a big announcement coming next on "the beat."
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allstate click or call to switch today. finally tonight, we just wanted to let you know about two very special guests on "the beat" tomorrow. first, howard university president dr. wayne frederick. howard made a huge, huge news this week for bringing in nikole hannah-jones and tan ahasse koets as faculty.
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both to reassess u.s. history and make the teaching of history something that includes all americans. we'll talk to dr. frederick about that and the right-wing effort to stifle any honest teachings about race, slavery, and how america truly came to be. also on "the beat" tomorrow, a very different special guest. rapper juvenile will join us to talk about his new remix of his '90s hit, back that thing up, turning it into a pro-vaccine anthem titled vax that thing up. let's take a look. ♪ you got to go vaccinate ♪ ♪ girl you look good won't you vax that thing up ♪ ♪ you need to vax that thing up ♪ ♪ you need to vax that thing up ♪ >> i feel like i'm throwing out vax cards as we're going. i want to make this clear, we're not just focusing on this because it's juvenile, but also because it's a key component in our attempt to make everybody in america understand how important
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it is to get vaccinated. if we could appreciate get your booty to the polls last year for 2020, we can appreciate vax that thing up. two very special guests and a lot more tomorrow on "the beat." that does it for me. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. >> this is what i have to say to juvenile and vax that thing up. come on, yes. yes. sir, sir. >> get it from his mama. >> sir, sir. vax that thing up. yes! >> i love you, joy. >> bye. >> i'm looking forward to it. i cannot wait. >> i can't either. clearly. bye. >> bye. >> hey, good evening. we have a serious show tonight. we begin "the reidout" tonight with the democrats turning their focus on protecting your right to vote. and to have that vote actually count. with vice president kamala harris at her alma mater, howard university, announcing a $25 millio


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